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Uganda urged to reject anti-gay bill

2011-05-11 11:58

Kampala - Rights groups on Wednesday urged Ugandan lawmakers to reject a draconian anti-gay bill that proposes the death penalty for some homosexual acts.

The Ugandan parliament is expected to debate and vote on the Anti-Homosexuality Bill later on Wednesday following hearings by a parliamentary legal committe.

"It is deeply alarming that the Ugandan parliament is again considering this appalling bill, which flies in the face of human decency and violates international human rights law," said Michelle Kagari, Amnesty International's deputy director for Africa in a joint statement with Human Rights Watch.

"The Ugandan parliament should reject the Anti-Homosexuality Bill," the groups said.

The bill was first introduced in 2009 and has drawn widespread international condemnation.

It calls for the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality", in cases of rape of a minor by a person of the same sex, or where one partner carries the virus that can cause Aids.

The bill also proposes to criminalise public discussion of homosexuality and would penalise an individual who knowingly rents property to a homosexual.

Homosexuality is already illegal in Uganda, punishable by life imprisonment in some instances.

"Not only would the bill institutionalise discrimination against those who are, or who are thought to be, gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender, if this bill is passed, it could be interpreted as an official incitement to commit violence against LGBT people," said Graeme Reid of the Human Rights Watch.

In January, a Ugandan gay rights activist whose name and picture appeared in a homophobic tabloid was murdered at his home in Kampala.

Comments
  • GinSA1 - 2011-05-11 12:19

    What's wrong with the Bill?

      Rob Gunning - 2011-05-11 12:28

      @GinSA1 - Would you like to receive the death penalty for being straight?

      CB2 - 2011-05-11 12:36

      What is wrong with you?

      alessandroz067 - 2011-05-11 12:54

      @Rob: Being straight is what we're supposed to be. Being gay is wrong so big up to the bill.

      daaivark - 2011-05-11 13:00

      There are no rights and wrongs in gender preference.

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-11 13:14

      Are you a homophobe GinSA1? *points out the obvious*

      Mike - 2011-05-11 13:17

      Ah, I love it when people run for their bibles on this issue. Probably the only time people run for their bibles. GinSA1, to ask "what is wrong with the bill" implies you are in agreement with it and as such fail to observe one of the greatest themes of the christian bible and that is of grace, and instead use your half-truth, half baked, indoctrinated interpretation and understanding of what you believe the christian bible is saying. But hey...you wanna play God, go for it honey

      Hello there - 2011-05-11 13:25

      Interesting that you mention Sodom. Why don't you tell all these good people why god didn't kill Lot's daughters when they got their dad drunk, had sex with him and then got pregnant ? Also, if you're so into the OT, then you should follow all the rules and not be selective. Does your wife go to the edge of the city when she gets her period ? Do you bring a tree into your house in December and decorate it with stuff ? Because Jeremiah warns against this. Has your wife ever worn one of your T-shirts ? Yeah ? Because then you have to kill her. Do you wear wool and cotton clothing together ? Oh, you do ? Well then, the bible says we must kill you.

      GinSA1 - 2011-05-11 13:26

      Now now Mike, don't be calling me honey, honey! Okay, let me spill the beans. I only wrote that comment to see the reaction. It was a joke about something that's not funny at all, and it got some of ya angry. Reg so! The bill is an abomination. I agree with to each their own. Sorry for upsetting you folks.

      Mike - 2011-05-11 13:42

      No worries GinSA! :-) Your comment only represents/highlights a broad thinking. *Phew* for a moment there I was wondering if you'd advocate corrective rape. I am relieved :-)

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 13:45

      Say it like it is. There is a difference between right and wrong and some things are self evident. I am glad there is at least one government willing to stand up for what is right. The points mentioned in the article regarding the bill sounds very logical and correct to me.

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-11 13:46

      @GinSA1 Oh please stop. Quoting an outdated, lost in translation dark ages book is a pathetic attempt to hide your small mindedness. 'tis cuz the bible said so' The bible also says many other things, do you HONESTLY comply with each of these? Go read your holy book objectively then we'll have a proper discussion, an OPEN minded discussion. In fact I'll even send you my personal email address which you can forward any question to.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 13:47

      Don't you just love it when homosexuals bring out the homophobia word. To clarify matters, there is no such thing. No right thinking heterosexual fears you. We may be disgusted by your actions, but fear you I think not.

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-11 14:23

      @GinSA1 Well at the very least you've exposed a few more narrow minded News24 users. Glad to see you're more open minded than that. I did have a few good arguments I'll have to save for another day.

  • willieman - 2011-05-11 12:19

    The south african goverment appointed John Qwelane as ambassador to Uganda o help Museveni to pass this law,becausehe is anti gay

  • waine - 2011-05-11 12:28

    This thinking is typical of archaic and bigotry governance. I am not gay, but I believe that if one’s actions do not harm anyone else, then it is not evil. If Uganda deal with gays in this manner, I wonder how they deal with violent criminals. From this I can conclude that Uganda takes no sh*t!

  • mo-man - 2011-05-11 12:28

    I feel pretty, Oh so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and gay.....

      CB2 - 2011-05-11 12:35

      Well sang !!

  • sibonakaliso.tembe - 2011-05-11 12:35

    too bad this thing is way bad, though homosexual is evil but we are not to take punishment to our hands, the only provider is the only punish-er and as far as I know that is God.

      stephen scott - 2011-05-11 12:45

      evil? Ive came to the conclusion, that god is for people who don't know the difference between right and wrong.

      Mike - 2011-05-11 12:46

      Evil? Since when?! What gives you that idea?

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-11 12:51

      You're evil

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 13:50

      All deeds that fall against the will of God is in effect evil. You may not agree with God's word, but that does not mean you can change his will. When God has spoken, it is up to us to obey.

      Tieneke - 2011-05-11 13:57

      Evil? WTF??????????????? Religion is evil for poisoning your mind with bull crap.

      Stan - 2011-05-11 13:59

      @Mike... Since the beginning. And it's the reason God destroyed Sodom.

      Mike - 2011-05-11 14:17

      @Stan: Sorry, you loose. Wrong answer. Shocked? I'd go back to church and ask for your tithe back for teaching you BS

  • WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-11 12:45

    Not only reject it, it shouldn't even have been considered in the first place. This isn't the dark ages dammit. Live and let live. Each to his own.

  • Ingrid - 2011-05-11 12:46

    Mek bebby.

  • letsee - 2011-05-11 12:46

    Uganda is going to far...

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-11 12:52

    We've helped stop this bill before, and we can do it again. After a massive global outcry last year, Ugandan President Museveni blocked the bill's progress. But political unrest is mounting in Uganda, and religious extremists in Parliament are hoping confusion and violence in the streets will distract the international community from a second push to pass this hate-filled law. We can show them that the world is still watching. If we block the vote for two more days until Parliament closes, the bill will expire forever. We have no time to lose. Almost half a million of us have already joined the call -- let’s get to one million voices against Uganda's gay death penalty in the next 48 hours -- click here to take action, then forward this email to everyone: http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_stop_homophobia_petition/?vl For Frank and thousands of others, being gay in Uganda is already dangerous and terrifying. They are regularly harassed and beaten, and just months ago, gay rights activist, David Kato (pictured above), was brutally murdered in his own home. Now LGBT Ugandans are threatened by this draconian law which imposes life imprisonment for people convicted of same-sex relations and the death penalty for “serial offenders”. Even NGOs working to prevent the spread of HIV can be imprisoned for “promoting homosexuality” under this hate-filled law. Right now, Uganda is in political turmoil -- in the wake of the Arab spring, people across the country are taking to the streets, protesting high food and gas prices. President Museveni has responded by violently cracking down on the opposition. This upheaval has provided religious extremists in Parliament the perfect chance to slip in the shelved anti-gay bill just days before Parliament closes and all proposed laws are wiped from the books. Museveni backed away from this bill last year after international pressure threatened Uganda's aid and support. With violent protests sweeping the streets, Museveni is more vulnerable than ever. In the next 48 hours, let’s build a massive international outcry in support of respect for human rights, justice and tolerance and against the gay death penalty. Together we can save lives by stopping this bill -- sign below, then tell friends and family: http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_stop_homophobia_petition/?vl Earlier this year, we stood in solidarity with Uganda's equality movement to show that every human life, no matter what creed, nationality or sexual orientation, is equally precious. Our international petition condemning the gay death penalty law was delivered to Parliament – spurring a global news story and enough pressure to block the bill for months. When a tabloid newspaper published 100 names, pictures and addresses, of suspected gays and those identified were threatened, Avaaz supported a legal case against the paper and we won! Our community has funded security for gay rights activists and operational funding for gay rights organizations. Together we have stood up, time and time again, for Uganda’s gay community -- now they need us more than ever.

      Mad man - 2011-05-11 13:26

      Whether they were or are still killed, harassed and necklaced, is what they deserve. Once a dog always a dog - long live the President of Uganda.

      Michael - 2011-05-11 13:36

      Join Ugandans in walk-to work-demonstration. It is to be more serious for the people of Uganda if you care that much. Not homosexuality. Homosexuality shall never bring prices down in Uganda. Please be serous with your self.

      mm - 2011-05-11 14:16

      Once a killer always a killer Mad man. I wonder who God will judge? The gay man for loving another man, or the killer who killed them because of his hate. What type of person are you? Wishing death on other humans. I wonder if it was your child that was gay if you would still want them killed, harassed, necklaced. You are evil.

  • Colline - 2011-05-11 12:57

    it's not called the dark continent for nothing...

  • anna - 2011-05-11 12:57

    Wow... they have zero tolerance for gays, but rape, slaughter, mutilation, murder etc ... is ok????

      Psychotron - 2011-05-11 12:59

      The African way remember!

      daaivark - 2011-05-11 13:02

      Two wrongs don't make a right. All the things you list are clearly not ok. That does not mean that a stupid law is. Thinking is a useful thing. Try it.

      mufasa - 2011-05-11 13:55

      @ Daaivark.... good grieve boy thats what he was pointing out, retorical question 101....take some of your own advice...

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 14:05

      @mufasa:I think Anna is a girl name or is this topic getting you confused now?

  • Bloedrivier - 2011-05-11 12:58

    Everyone can decide for themselves how they want to live their lives, but homosexuality was not the intention of creation was it? Gays are quick to jump and get emotional over the issue, preaching it's their choice. No problem, its your choice to choose homosexuality, its my choice to choose straight and have an opinion. So live with it. History shows that a man was created and a woman for the man to love. Thats my opinion. Now go get emotional over it in the bathroom.

      daaivark - 2011-05-11 13:03

      Um. Nobody is criticising you or your opinion. At least I see no references to you in either the text or the comments. The text is about a law in Uganda.

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 13:06

      did you get hit with a stupid stick? this is not about "getting emotional" this is about getting executed for being homosexual! if you can't see the wrong in that you are truly ignorant

      Tieneke - 2011-05-11 14:00

      News flash @Bloedrivier. I did not choose to be straight, did you? I just am straight. Can't explain it, I am straight.....For that same feeling is what guys feel. They can't explain it, it just is. And you judge them???Nice, remind me to spike your Bells with laxative,

      mm - 2011-05-11 14:20

      The fact that you have such a strong "opinion" Bloedrivier, tells me you are the one that gets all emotional about it. So you want to live by your "choice", let others do the same. It has nothing to do with you, even if it disgusts you. Just look at how quickly YOU jump as a white afrikaner if your personal being is attacked. But you have no problem attacking others that are different from you. Hypocrite

      Serias - 2011-05-11 15:12

      I agree with everyone in a different way on this. Everyone entitled to their own opinion, some opinions are mere farts in the wind, since none of the opinions are constructive at all. You can disapprove of homosexuality like me, but accept that people make their own choice, and leave them to live their lives their way. Or you can disapprove of homosexuality, and go out bashing and attacking gays, like a lot of other people do. I disapprove of this .Funny how upset you get about laws in Uganda, where you don't even live. Off course its wrong to be executed for it, thats plain stupid. My opinion is my opinion and nothing will change it because every individual makes up his/her own mind on what is wrong or right. For you it's right, for me it's wrong. So why do you attack each other on difference of opinion. @Tieneke........If you put a man and woman next to each other and ask a man to choose a partner, his decision is actually called a ...wait for it,...decision. He CHOSE. A lot of married men/women left their straight relationships to engage in same sex relationships.......they CHOSE to get married at first, then CHOSE to change their lifestyles. Everything is about CHOICES. And yes, I CHOSE to be straight and my brother CHOSE to be gay, it's everyone's CHOICE.

  • daboss247365 - 2011-05-11 13:00

    Finally an african state getting it right. these is an evil that must be destroyed. the bill has the full support of many africans, black & white, & will hopefully be passed with massive support. The ones attacking are actually far outnumbered by those who support! Ghastly homosexual public displays need to be purged from our social structures ASAP!!!

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 13:11

      are you for real?

      Mannie777 - 2011-05-11 13:33

      The only evil I see is your hate towards gays. Do you understand that if this bill passes it will be open season to hunt down and kill anyone whom is even accused to being gay? Not even to mention that it will increase violence against gays. Doesn’t this remind you of the Hitler-era. If you so proud of your South African flag (as your picture) you are therefore also proud of our constitution which PROTECTS discrimination against gays. No one said you must "like" gays but how can you support a bill to KILL someone just for being gay? Seriously now.

      Drucilla Dragonfly - 2011-05-11 13:37

      Good god, I thought you type died out long ago!

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 13:54

      The homosexuals truly believe that because they control the propaganda machine that they have us brainwashed. Most thinking people agree with you, at least those with decency.

      mm - 2011-05-11 14:24

      We should kill you because you are black. You didn't like that, hey. Yet you are fine with killing others different from you. Are you even human. You are probably the type that would kill his own child if he was gay.

      daboss247365 - 2011-05-12 09:51

      @mm.. BLACK??? ME??? Dam you homo's really got it all mixed up. I ain't black buddy, but it's not a colour issue, stop trying to sidetrack from the real issue at hand. Homo's have no place in Africa. None at all. The western liberal society, which is basically a state of spineless social rot, allows it, & purely because they attempt to apply logic override to emotion. We are still using our senses & rejecting this scourge. If their logic stands correct, then by the same right pedophiles should have free reign too.. & so on, & NOT under our watch will we ever allow that. As for the constitution, I didnt write it, its there due to western pressure... for economic reasons.

  • jmaritz - 2011-05-11 13:02

    Homosexuality is found in more than 450 species of mammals, homophobia in only one. Which is natural?

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-11 13:13

      Perfect point.

      Martin - 2011-05-11 13:14

      name them

      Realist - 2011-05-11 13:17

      And 450 species of mammals cant tell teh difference between wrong and right, and do not have the ability to choose one over the other...weak argument....

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 13:24

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

      mufasa - 2011-05-11 13:27

      Jmaritz loves nature in spite of what it did to him.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 13:57

      To repeat regarding homophobia. there is no such thing. No right thinking heterosexual fears you. We may be disgusted by your actions, but fear you I think not.

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 14:08

      @Steve Wonderboy: great tactic make the gay bashing a semantic war, real mature

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 14:40

      The word annoys the heck out of me. To oppose something is to be anti it. As far as I am aware a phobia is a fear. I am anti-gay and I am not ashamed to say it. The road to damnation is a slippery slope. Do you know how many deplorable acts happen on a daily basis but are accepted as wrong amongst civilized society. Yet because homosexuals are vocal enough and have people positioned in the right places they can manipulate society into accepting wrong as right and right as wrong.

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-11 15:34

      Bet you you dont find any of those 450 in Uganda!!

  • willieman - 2011-05-11 13:10

    GinSA1====The very sme bible you read it says "thou shall not judge" be careful you might find yourself in hell like the rest of us

      GinSA1 - 2011-05-11 13:28

      See my comment under the original please Willieman, and my apologies to you

      Hello there - 2011-05-11 13:29

      Willie, what he doesn't know is that the bible didn't just fall out of the sky one day in the form they have it in now. It was constructed from many different stories. Some stuff were included and others weren't. Men decided what was included and they included stuff based on the political climate of the day and there was specific intent. Ask him what he thinks of Jesus fighting a dragon. Yes, a real dragon in a cave after the holy family fled to Egypt. It says it right there in the Infancy Gospels of Thomas. Ask him if we should believe books that were not included in the bible.

  • Realist - 2011-05-11 13:21

    So yesterday I decided to take mickey out of you guys, and everyone fell for it..I loved the responses, but on a serious note... 1. Being gay is not the natural way, and by this I dont mean harm or kill gay people, they arent bothering you, so leave them be 2. Just becuase the world has becoem a pool of sheep that fall for any stupid crap that they are fed, does not mean that every last person should be the same. @Gay people - You do what you do, keep it within your gay circles(no offense) and when the time comes to be judged, be judged by someone who is entitled to judge you, ignore the commentary here @straight people - You dont have to like Gays, I respect that you are in disagreement with what you know is wrong, but dont bash, they're not hitting on you, let them be. I do respect you for not being liek the rest of the sheep though

      I <3 SA - 2011-05-11 13:27

      But that is exactly my point! the question here is not whether you like or dislike homosexuals or whether it is wrong or right, the question is whether jailing and killing a fellow human being for being homosexual is right! and its NOT!

      Drucilla Dragonfly - 2011-05-11 13:34

      So TODAY I tell you you, Realist, and everyone who falls for it: 1. Who says being gay is not the natural way? And by this I dont mean harm or kill straight people, they arent bothering you, so leave them be. 2. Just because the world has become a pool of goats that fall for any stupid crap that they are fed, does not mean that every last person should be the same. @Straight people - You do what you do, keep it within your straight circles (no offense) and when the time comes to be judged, be judged by someone who is entitled to judge you, ignore the commentary here. @gay people - We don't have to like straights, we respect that you are in disagreement with what you know is wrong, but dont bash, they're not hitting on you, let them be. We do respect you for not being like the rest of the goats though.

      Realist - 2011-05-11 14:18

      I agree with you, nobody shoudl have the right to kill anyone else, but unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world, we live in a world where people will kill you for a mere thing like not agreeing with your beliefs and practices apparently...

      Realist - 2011-05-11 14:21

      @Drucilla the drag Well done there... Would you care to explain why God created men and women, why not Adam and steve? Actually, rather dont, I'm going to open up another can of worms with that, You hold your view, I'll hold mine... Be that as it may, they dont mind my business, I dont mind theirs, and we can all live happily ever after

      Serias - 2011-05-11 15:27

      @Drucilla Whatever......that's the worst vomit i've ever read.

  • docgene - 2011-05-11 13:31

    As I have said before in comments on similar articles, Africa is still in the stone age. Genetic research shows that Gay/lesbian is a GENETIC problem, and every person on the planet will fall somewhere on a scale from 1 - 10. You are BORN that way NOT made that way. For those that use the bible as reference, please remember that the bible was also written by men, very inspired men, but again their own thoughts and opinions were voiced. We, as the public do not have the whole bible, only parts edited by the churches. If we had the whole bible maybe we would be nearer the Truth.

  • Sam - 2011-05-11 13:32

    Wow, with all the problems we as a species face like global warming, hmm…the end of the world etc, the buffoons in Uganda have the time, resources and energy to waist on this?? Is this maybe a way of taking their population's attention away from the fact that they live in a 3rd world sh*t hole?? Maybe as a species we deserve to be wiped from this planet (the buffoons in Uganda first, however).

  • Sam - 2011-05-11 13:47

    Lol, I always find it strange that straight people think it is our choice. Yes it is our choice to choose a lifestyle that is condemned the world over, are you kidding me?? What you don't understand is that it is a natural for me to be gay as it is for you to be straight. Your lifestyle appears just as unnatural to me as mine does to you. You have all this energy to waist on worrying what people do in their bedrooms, yet you keep breeding uncontrolled to the detriment of this planet. Maybe you should stop having so many babies and focus your energy on saving this planet in stead?? To all the bible bashers out there, your religion is so flawed, I find it funny you keep refering back to the old testament when it got rejected to make space for the new testament.

      Stan - 2011-05-11 14:29

      You stupid...

      Sam - 2011-05-11 14:38

      You first! Lol, I think you should be wiped out, and all who think like you. Come now, why don't you do us a favor and just end it? We will be better off, I promise! :)

  • Hello there - 2011-05-11 13:49

    To all my gay/lesbian and atheist buddies here. We won't have to worry about these Paulians for much longer. The rapture is apparently happening on May 21st (and the end of the world in October 2011) according to far too many of them. A funky dude called Harold Camping "did the math" on this and his fellowship of idiots have already sold all their belongings. To christians, Harold's math checks out. So yeah, you won't have to deal with us for much longer. Did I mention that "the rapture" is a catholic concept and doesn't feature anywhere in your bible ?

      Serias - 2011-05-12 11:07

      The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in the USA in the early 1980s (more about this period can be found on our History of AIDS page). "A number of gay men in New York and California suddenly began to develop rare opportunistic infections and cancers that seemed stubbornly resistant to any treatment. At this time, AIDS did not yet have a name, but it quickly became obvious that all the men were suffering from a common syndrome."

  • Stan - 2011-05-11 13:56

    Good idea... Homosexuality is abomination to the country. If our stupid president would learn and do away with homosexuals in our country.

      Hello there - 2011-05-11 14:08

      Stan, so are Down Syndrome children or as we like to call it "when nature goes wrong". I say we destroy all the Down Syndrome children while we're at it. And the albinos ? Yep, let's get medieval on them. The problem, oh stupid one, isn't genetics: it's a funky thing called androgen that can really really make things very interesting for a fetus. Your sexual orientation is already determined before you're born. We understand this now and can explain it in terms of human biology. Your bronze age shepherds didn't know about this when they were compiling their book.

      Stan - 2011-05-11 14:25

      @Hello... You are confused. Those people you are talking about are not committing any sin by being down syndrome or albinos. They are born that way. Homoz are not born that way are just demonic possessed persons who are driven by demonic forces within them. They decide to be homoz. So don't confuse the two.

      Hello there - 2011-05-11 14:27

      Stan, so are Down Syndrome children or as we like to call it "when nature goes wrong". I say we destroy all the Down Syndrome children while we're at it. And the albinos ? Yep, let's get medieval on them. The problem, oh stupid one, isn't genetics: it's a funky thing called androgen that can really really make things very interesting for a fetus. Your sexual orientation is already determined before you're born. We understand this now and can explain it in terms of human biology. Your bronze age shepherds didn't know about this when they were compiling their book.

      mm - 2011-05-11 14:31

      Lets do away with whites as well while we are at it. Kill them all. They are unnatural to this continent. And then, lets kill all disabled people, they are a waste. Then, lets continue by killing all the Sotho speaking people, we don't want them here. I hope your child is gay and that he then is the first one killed Stan. Karma is a bitch. What you wish on others might just come to you. Remember that

      Sam - 2011-05-11 14:34

      Lol, being gay is a choice?? Stan, please explain to me what about it would make it soooo attractive? Tell me, are you Christian? Probably more to the point, are you Catholic or Protestant?

  • BluePearl - 2011-05-11 14:00

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

      Stan - 2011-05-11 14:10

      Oh Please!!!

      Realist - 2011-05-11 15:14

      Does your @$$ ever get jealous of the s!@# that comes out of your mouth?

  • El Cid - 2011-05-11 14:49

    I wish more countries would follow suit. Well done Uganda!!!!

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-11 15:11

      Can I hear a Hell Yeah! Now they've just got to work on their corruption and get moving in a positive direction.

  • Lefai - 2011-05-12 08:19

    It is very wrong to judge in the name of religion because religion is oppresive. Homesexuality is African, human violence is not.

  • daboss247365 - 2011-05-12 09:59

    Its NOT a CHOICE Its a dam PERVERSION or FETISH!!! Why must these demons have extra rights. as long as you keep your sickening habits to yourselves, nobody cares, but dont bring those tendencies near the street that our kids, families & pets are exposed to!!! We dont want this stuff spreading through society like another plague or AIDS epidemic.

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