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'ANC, Zanu-PF comrades-in-arms'

2012-12-18 14:44

Bloemfontein - The ANC and Zimbabwe's Zanu-PF party were comrades-in-arms, Zanu-PF chairperson Simon Khaya Moyo said at the ANC's elective conference in Mangaung on Tuesday.

"We have a common liberation history and culture. We are one," he said delivering his party's message of support after the announcement of the ANC's leadership election results.

He congratulated the party's newly-elected top six leaders.

The ANC and Zanu-PF had an "impeccable" record of liberation.

"The two parties successfully led the demolition of apartheid in both Zimbabwe and South Africa," he said.

Meanwhile Mozambique’s ruling party, Frelimo, has urged the ANC and all liberation movements on the continent to work on preserving their liberation ties.

"We have a duty to preserve the record and ties of the liberation movement across the continent. That is very important," Ida Libongo said in her party’s message of support.

She praised the ANC for leading the liberation movement on the continent.

Comments
  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-18 14:53

    There was never apartheid in Rhodesia

      UncleShep - 2012-12-18 15:12

      Aaargh....what do you know...there was apartheid in Rhodesia.....the worst of it!

      Watkykj - 2012-12-18 15:29

      My mom was raised in Rhodesia and there was no apartheid! Ur pathetic uncle...stop making history up! U just love looking for reasons to hate whites!

      honey.deelishus - 2012-12-18 15:37

      Oh well, there goes the Country! God help South Africa and her beautiful people. God strike down the evil, corrupt racists in the ANC!

      Zengfuey - 2012-12-18 15:54

      Do'nt get your nickers in a knot...this is just money speak. Soon we will have ZanuPF and friends standing on the bottom field of the Union buildings with their begging bowls.

      bullet.proof.9400 - 2012-12-18 18:41

      More like terrorists and murders in arms

      Punungwe - 2012-12-18 19:59

      Stop fooling yourself. I am a Zimbabwean. Right now one of the big issues in Zimbabwe is land, which was allocated to whites under the land apportionment act similar to the group areas act of South Africa. The effects of colonial racist and segregationist laws on the livelihood of Africans have still not been addressed today despite all the noise Mugabe has been making about land reform. Read my blogpost http://punungwe.blogspot.com/2012/12/chiefs-loose-case-in-rural-land-dispute.html about a recent case involving chiefs to understand more. There were separate residential areas, with blacks confined mostly to Native Reserves similar to Bantustans. There were separate toilets, separate schools and separate everything for the races just like South Africa. Read the section headed 'The Battle of the Toilets' in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reps_Theatre.

      mark.tunstall.18 - 2012-12-18 20:56

      Granted, the two parties played a huge role in liberating their people. Done, we are now liberated. Next, lets get down to running the countries so much blood was spilled for. Here is where the rot begins. The role as liberator has been served and it is now encumbent on you to run your countries to the benefit of all who reside, not to the benefit of the few holding the reigns of power. If you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen and find the right people with the right policies to get the job done. Riding the romance of a liberation struggle to eternity doesn't work. Your people are bleeding, you have reached your sell by date a long time ago

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-18 21:55

      punungwe, if it so great to be liberated, why not enkoy your liberation in your home country? You come here and indult us, your hosts with your soviet indoctrinated liberation ideas, but meanwhile your own people cant even run a bath for a lack of water, nevermind hot water. Maybe its time you guys get back to your utopia and open up jobs for the locals. There must be a law that keep visitors to be just visitors.

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-18 22:05

      Patrick, apartheid was invented by a nationalist called verwoerd who was assassinated. It was an afrikaans thing. Rhodesia was british named after Cecil John Rhodes, they never had afrikaans in Rhodesia. You need to maybe look it up on the web and clear your ignorance as well ss your rudeness.

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-19 09:11

      Semantics, segregation was there. I know that if you're white you might feel somewhat responsible and would want to down play it. It's not your fault, it was your father's. As long as whites keep looking down at such issues of segregation that happened in the past there will never be true unity between the 2 races. I love you guys but even if we were the same colour but had this history between us we would still be where we are today. Irrigadles of what you think, BEE is coming strong and the more people with racist ideologies push against it th more it pushes back.

      john.morreira.9 - 2012-12-19 15:08

      Mark.tunstall, your post/reply to Punungwe crystallizes the situation in Zim as well as S.A.people need to move on and realise that the glamorous Che Guevara time is past.

      johan.louw.399 - 2012-12-20 22:47

      You right there was no apartheid in Rhodesia!!! But you know the word “apartheid” is used all over the world by them who want attention because they try to hide their incompetency. Apartheid is something you will find everywhere in the world!!!Nothing to do with black & white or Mandela!!!.

      eduard.homes - 2012-12-29 23:14

      The more I listen to "old africans", the more I realize one thing. You guys not only complain, but are also damm lazy and useless. Why can some people prosper, others not, why is it always the past that is doing you in, why is it always the whites and the europeans?? Who taught you to read and write, where the hell does your basic education come from, where is the internet coming from, where do you go for food and clothes?? So stop blaming the past...there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. BUT, your current ANC/ZanuPF can change things around for you...DO THEY? Hell no....they only care about themselves...and please, dont deny it, just fact brother....we are all in the same pot now...and it is boiling.

  • kosie.nel.14 - 2012-12-18 14:54

    Both share the same future............................!

  • Watkykj - 2012-12-18 14:55

    Eish......

  • kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-18 14:56

    Soort soek soort. Well that statement by Zanu-PF says it all

  • phillip.mvundura.5 - 2012-12-18 14:58

    Zanu Pf needs to learn a lot from the ANC. Retrospection, introspection and change may give Zanu Pf a further life... otherwise

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-19 09:15

      Zimbabwe as poor as it is has the richest collection of blacks on the continent. You have to understand where the US and Britain are coming from and you'll see that although it might not look like it now, Mugabe did you the biggest favour ever.

  • foxiloxi - 2012-12-18 14:59

    dear god?!!?! same future for sure at this rate?!?! I sincerely hope sanity prevails at election time, but i hold out no hope!

  • Willie - 2012-12-18 15:00

    "...impeccable" record of liberation..." how come Zimbabwens are in SA in droves after 20 years

  • sue.r.byronmoore - 2012-12-18 15:15

    Heartbreaking - please somebody show some sense and let's not go down the ZANU-PF road. If we do - be afraid, be very afraid.

  • Buhle Mjiyakho - 2012-12-18 15:17

    if u r not aware of the History between Zimbabwe & South Africa pls dont comment, u r embarrasing urself.

      Erna - 2012-12-18 15:41

      And you are embarrassing yourselves by thinking you have this impeccable history. Its time you start worrying about the future.

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-18 15:46

      You seem to be ignorant about what has become of Zimbabwe and where South Africa is heading! Please educate yourself!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-18 17:21

      Typical, still stuck in the past...

      bbooyse - 2012-12-19 08:42

      ...And if you're incapable of slapping a basic sentence together with proper spelling and syntax then rather not comment and embarrass yourself... :D

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-19 09:19

      Buhle you're right. What can you really expect from people looking after their own interests though?

      mark.tunstall.18 - 2012-12-24 10:55

      So says "Buhle Mijiyakho - ur embarrasing urself" with his begging bowl behind his back

  • russel.e.weston - 2012-12-18 15:18

    In 1980 Zimbabwe had one of the highest educated black populations in % terms. Look now! If the ANC and Zanu are comrades-in-arms, people of South Africa be afraid, be very afraid. More of you will be uneducated, poor and hungry than you can believe. 30 years after Zimbabwean independence, one quarter of Zimbabwean citizens live outside the country, nearly one third of those in the country have no food security for the next week and this is progress? South Africans, be afraid, be very afraid.

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-19 09:22

      Actually in 1980 Zimbabwe had a very low education %. It was the education dive that got Mugabe popularity in the 1980s. Zimbabwe's economy colapsed when the war vets said they wanted the land back so the white man hit back.

  • musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-12-18 15:19

    It was great to hear our comrades from liberation movements like SWAPO, FRELIMO, ZANU-PF and others, delivering messages of support for our 53rd National Conference here in Mangaung. I just felt being an African again. Long live with the spirit of liberation of Africa from colonialism, long live. As our SWAPO comrade stated: Comrades in Namibia will rest well today knowing that the ANC is in the capable hands of President Zuma and other officials elected. I came from my branch as a delegate, given this mandate by my branch to vote for this top 6. Amandla! ANC lives, ANC leads!

      kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-12-18 15:25

      start delivering and stop the waste, corruption and incompetence comrade - start educating the youth so they can be employed - talk is cheap - action is what we need - thats leadership..!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-12-18 15:26

      YOu are a fool.

      bbooyse - 2012-12-18 15:29

      Capable hands of President Zuma... :D Buddy... All I can say is shame...

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-12-18 15:44

      Musawakhe.ngubane You might be liberated, but what else have you got ? I see poverty, poverty and more poverty !

      kseyffert - 2012-12-18 23:53

      It seems that despite the lessons given to the world by the Nazi's people still fall for propaganda.... Oh dear!

      dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-12-19 09:27

      Sandra don't act as if apatheid made the blacks million airs. I had R100 then but today I have R10000. Not much but way beter. Hahahahahahaha, in your face.

      eduard.homes - 2012-12-29 23:16

      The more I listen to "old africans", the more I realize one thing. You guys not only complain, but are also damm lazy and useless. Why can some people prosper, others not, why is it always the past that is doing you in, why is it always the whites and the europeans?? Who taught you to read and write, where the hell does your basic education come from, where is the internet coming from, where do you go for food and clothes?? So stop blaming the past...there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. BUT, your current ANC/ZanuPF can change things around for you...DO THEY? Hell no....they only care about themselves...and please, dont deny it, just fact brother....we are all in the same pot now...and it is boiling.

  • bokbal.bliksem - 2012-12-18 15:20

    Oh wonderful, lets think about thew lovely future we have in store for us should we follow down the Zanu-PF path. Umm, starvation to the majority of the population, unemlpoyment for the vast majority of the country, unbelievably corrupt elections, murder to all white farmers, and essentially looking to drive whites from the country. Oh no wait, thats happening in SA!!! Zimbabwe here we come!

      shawn.thompson.3954 - 2012-12-18 19:52

      After reading the blogs and all (if not most) of these posts, reading the absolute ignorance and arrogance of some of these readers, I believe that we should all just sit back, pop a can of beer and watch how South africa implodes. It doesn't help to implore the people to vote for another incorrupt party, or to open their eyes to the blatant theft and corruption happening before them. To admit these things would be to admit that their chosen government is failing, that in a typical african manner, they are failing again, failing the people that voted them into power. To vote for another leader or party would be tatamount to admitting failure and in africa, THIS IS NEVER DONE!!!! NEVER EVER EVER ADMIT THAT FAILURE IS YOUR FAULT!!!! I feel that the best thing to do is batten down the hatches, lock the security gates, stock up on Brandy/coke/beer and allow things to progress untill they implode. I mean, fu*k it!! They don't want to listen......dan laat hulle voel!

  • konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-12-18 15:21

    "The two parties successfully led the demolition of apartheid in both Zimbabwe and South Africa," ... Zanu PF also successfully demolished Zimbabwes infrastructure and destroyed it's economy, and the Zuma led ANC heading in the same direction.

  • mart.botha - 2012-12-18 15:22

    I am afraid that ship sailed a long while ago Moyo. ZANU-PF has been acting as nursemaid, benefactor and groom for one Julius Malema....this alone opened a crevice that cannot again be closed. The following also highlights that the hearts and minds of Africa's leaders are so far up their own arses....I am surprised they are able to string two words together without tripping themselves up !......Meanwhile Mozambique’s ruling party, Frelimo, has urged the ANC and all liberation movements on the continent to work on preserving their liberation ties. "We have a duty to preserve the record and ties of the liberation movement across the continent. That is very important," Ida Libongo said in her party’s message of support.

  • bbooyse - 2012-12-18 15:26

    Well you're both incompetent, racist and amoral so it makes complete sense...

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-12-18 15:46

      bbooyse Couldn't have worded it better myself ! 10 out of 10 for you.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-12-18 15:33

    Was a representative from the DA or the FF also invited?

      lucy.bush.9231 - 2012-12-18 15:59

      Don’t be ridiculous....this is a "comrades only club"...you chop..!!

  • scottdavies123 - 2012-12-18 15:33

    It would be funny if it wasn't so damn tragic! They are happily congratulating one another for being re-elected to their fat cat positions so they can steal and rob the people they so love to pretend to look out for! And every week another scandal erupts until the scandals all merge together into a wash of incompetence and and plain old theft to the point that we all get complacent and apathetic. What's another R25million wasted in the ocean of waste? To all you ANC delegates - is Zuma REALLY the BEST person in your organisation to lead you (and by extension the rest of us)? If so, I pity you and fear for us. Pathetic!

  • sipho.zipi - 2012-12-18 15:37

    What about the mediation in ZIM. Is the ANC and zuma taking the sides of ZANU.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-18 17:22

      Yes

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-18 22:02

      Of coarse they do, and we support Zanu with billions of rands as well. Know what your beloved anc is doing with your taxes, and if you do not agree, tell them so at the ballot box

  • lolamerle - 2012-12-18 15:44

    When will people learn. Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) was self supporting before Zanu-PF came to power; look at it now. South Africa is going the same way, just a lot faster. Come on = wake up and smell the roses people. If you value life as we know it; then stop gripping and do something about it. Othere African nations have realised that they need the WHITE AFRICAN people. I am an African with a white skin, no different than the African with a black skin. Out blood is still red, regardless.

      Mark Chirwa - 2012-12-18 18:32

      the cake,the national cake...when Rhodesia was surviving or flourishing,it was only few citizens who were enjoying full benefits of the economy,that is eating the cake,...then now everyone is eating that same cake,surely u can notice the difference,its gona happen also in SA when everyone wants a share of the economy & Land,only then,u'l c that its not enough for the whole nation & everything will get smaller,Only white africans can propose hw to share & @ a faster pace to save themselves,otherwise SA risks going the Zim way,b'cz ther's a lot o poor,unemployed people,they'l also want a peace of land to feed their family...& the YOUTH is voicing it,its gona be a reality one day!!!!

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-18 22:04

      mark, no one is eating in zim. Sometimes a popular idea isn't the best one

  • sisie.indola - 2012-12-18 15:47

    Now you know just where SA is heading.

  • corlieels.mynhardt - 2012-12-18 15:51

    Zanu-PF just bought a mealticket from the ANC. And guess who produces the meal?

  • Zengfuey - 2012-12-18 15:52

    "The ANC and Zimbabwe's Zanu-PF party were comrades-in-arms" KA-CHING! "Frelimo, has urged the ANC and all liberation movements...preserving their liberation ties" KA-CHING!

      Wally Wal - 2012-12-18 18:28

      it that the best friend anc can get shame

  • davidson.mu - 2012-12-18 15:57

    Yes thy all defended the apartheid regimes u knw, all over the world we won...Palestin is next to win the freedom..there is no place fo occupiers on the beautiful world copy that fools

      bbooyse - 2012-12-19 08:39

      Shame... Just for clarrification, what do you mean with they? If you mean white then you seem to forget that they voted in a referendum in 1992 officially allowing 1994 elections to happen... But judging on your spelling and syntax I'm likely speaking over your very very small head :D

  • malamulela.ndoro - 2012-12-18 15:58

    http://www.facebook.com/JacobZumaIsNotMyPresident To what extent must a president fail and be corrupt to be removed? Please like FB page: http://www.facebook.com/JacobZumaIsNotMyPresident

  • ChronicDJ - 2012-12-18 16:23

    oh F#ck!!!

  • KCorsar - 2012-12-18 18:15

    Help us all, there goes the Rand into the gutter. Talk of Zimbabwe wanting to adopt the Rand as currency; now comrades in arms. Hopefully ANC doesn't take that literally.

  • Suzanne Viljoen - 2012-12-18 18:36

    Comrades-in-arms. Against who and what. The minority? Shame neh

  • phillip.mvundura.5 - 2012-12-18 18:48

    Public relations yes, but not a beneficial relationship. Unless Zanu Pf changes its ways from non-democratic character then this relationship will be beneficial to both ANC & Zanu Pf otherwise the ANC has got no benefits at all.

  • meyiwa.mafusini - 2012-12-18 19:54

    yha now we going to look for jobs in zimbabwe wow.

  • hein.huyser - 2012-12-18 21:50

    Zanu PF better pay back the hundreds of millions they "borrowed" from us before they want to borrow again. My white tax money is good enough to keep your sinking ship afloat and to keep your dictators in ultimste luxury in overseas pallaces and private schools, but still you hate us. But at least you can ssy you are liberated. And as for your one sided views, why not insist for your countrymen to return to your pityfull liberated countries? It is the whites that employ them and pay them well, but still not a dingle word of acknowledgement. Better we have a re-look at who we employ I think. We as the host countries to your workforce refuse to be looked down on, especially from people who cant run an economy, or their countries. Nesrly 30 years and zim cant produce enough mealies to keep a chicken farm fed, and moz only have electricity because we, the South Africans have paid billions of rands to erect power lines and highways for you, but still you hste us. Typical moron, dinosaur thinking. Better you do like the zdofos.

  • Noel Skhona Nkomo - 2012-12-18 21:56

    Comrades # in arms?????????

  • matt.cumming.77 - 2012-12-18 21:58

    didn't Zanu PF fund Julius? Liberation parties always die. Zanu PF will be the first to go.

  • hendrik.breed - 2012-12-18 21:58

    Oh, what a fantastic message to the outside world. China is just going to love this! Say hi to your new colonialists, SA and Zim

  • sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 05:56

    They forgot to mention that even black foreigners have no rights in Zimbabwe. They are treated like crap they can't even get id's et al whilst SA is a home for all. Something is wrong with this relationship. Ask non Zimboz who came to Zim working in mines if they have rights they can't even vote! What a sham love affair!!!

  • roland.gemmell - 2012-12-19 05:56

    The 5th paragarph should read: The two parties successfully led the demolition of ( take out!!apartheid in) both Zimbabwe and South Africa," !!!!!!

  • sean.gotora - 2012-12-19 09:37

    u do realize black people in Rhodesia were not allowed to wear watched or walk on pedestrian pavements, Black people in Rhodesia were forces into RESERVES like animals and to this day they are still called reserves.. . karaled into reserves and limited to having 3 cows max per family as there was not enough space in Zimbabwe for the Rhodesians...I advise you proceed with caution before you start stating things like there was no apartheid in Zimbabwe, just because it was not publicized as much it was on a larger scale, black people were sold clothes laced with acid, so they can burn once they start sweating, Rhodesia was a paradise for the colonialists and hell for the locals.

      john.morreira.9 - 2012-12-19 15:18

      Sean that is terrible and must never happen again, to anyone of any race.But like so many other terrible things from history it is in the past. What is desperately needed now, is tolerance and respect and the unified will, to POSITIVELY improve the lot, of the poorest and weakest in society. This can only be achieved, by applying realistic; workable economic policies. Rather than clinging to revolutionary rhetoric.

  • sean.gotora - 2012-12-19 09:40

    Correction: There was apartheid in Rhodesia...

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-21 13:28

    The audacity to use the words "IMPECCABLE RECORD OF LIBERATION" WHAT BLUDDY LIBERATION - there was never apartheid in Rhodesia - NEVER!!

  • eduard.homes - 2012-12-29 23:14

    The more I listen to "old africans", the more I realize one thing. You guys not only complain, but are also damm lazy and useless. Why can some people prosper, others not, why is it always the past that is doing you in, why is it always the whites and the europeans?? Who taught you to read and write, where the hell does your basic education come from, where is the internet coming from, where do you go for food and clothes?? So stop blaming the past...there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. BUT, your current ANC/ZanuPF can change things around for you...DO THEY? Hell no....they only care about themselves...and please, dont deny it, just fact brother....we are all in the same pot now...and it is boiling.

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-30 12:15

    The anc and zanu-pf "IMPECCABLE RECORD OF LIBERATION" - WTF whoever wrote such crap has no idea what "impeccable" means YES THE COMARADES- IN-ARMS ARE JUST A BUNCH OF COMMIES who destroyed both countries Zimbabwe/South Africa is in a total mess due to corruption and the high number of murders committed in the countries - I do not agree with ONE SINGLE WORD IN THIS ARTICLE (Gladlad u ignorant assh... RHODESIA NEVER HAD APARTHEID go back to school and learn something, u raciast PIG!!)

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