Mugabe blasts Mandela

2013-05-26 12:28

Johannesburg - Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe has blasted former president Nelson Mandela's reconciliation policies, and has labelled him "too much of a saint" in a television interview, The Sunday Independent reported.

"Mandela has gone a bit too far in doing good to the non-black communities, really in some cases at the expense of [blacks]...," Mugabe reportedly told talk show host Dali Tambo in an interview.

"That is being too saintly, too good, too much of a saint," he said.

The interview, filmed for Tambo's show People of the South, would be aired next Sunday, the newspaper reported.

According to The Sunday Independent, the interview included footage of the Mugabe family and interviews with Mugabe's wife Grace at a dairy farm.

Tambo filmed the interview in Zimbabwe before Christmas and showed the family the final edit in Harare last weekend.

'Mugabe is an icon'

The newspaper reported that Tambo had denied accusations that he was sprucing up Mugabe's image through the "rare" interview and said he did not mind who was angry with him for interviewing the Zimbabwean leader.

"I interviewed Rhodesian leader Ian Smith in Cape Town in a previous series. This programme is not HardTalk.... It is not a political programme. We all have a nice lunch together. Mugabe is an icon," he told the newspaper.

The Sunday Times reported that Mugabe told Tambo in the interview that it was not time for him to go yet, and that Zimbabweans still needed him.

He reportedly told Tambo age would not force out of office.

"My people still need me, and when people need you to lead them it is not time, sir - it doesn't matter how old you are - to say goodbye."

  • Stirer Kathray - 2013-05-26 12:37

    That statement, Sir, demonstrates the huge chasm between great leaders and the despot that you are. That Mandela captured peace, and the support of his followers and his opponents speaks for itself. He is held in the highest esteem and is a global icon; whereas you, sir, are nothing.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:06

      We know why Mandela is a global icon unlike Thomas Sankara and Patrice Lumumba.

  • Craig Dennis - 2013-05-26 12:37

    Mugabi is a scum bag, an akona.

  • Makhosonke Mqikela - 2013-05-26 12:39

    Oh no Bob! Just look at it in macro economic terms and see the difference between YOUR government and ours...

  • Michael Konings - 2013-05-26 12:40

    Who cares about Mugabe?

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:09

      Africans do.

      Steve du Preez - 2013-05-26 13:16

      @Azande - which African??? The ones fleeing their own countries to come live in SA?? The Zimbabweans that Mogabe wants SA to keep and make citizens because Zim can not afford to take them back?? Oh those Africans??? wake up dude - u live in a dream world.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 13:52

      Azande, you will never get rid of us. As much as you hate us, this is our home and has been for the past 400 years. We can not change what our ancestors did...but we have been given a chance to take this nation forward together. If you don't want to be part of this future then may I suggest you go set up your own black community next to those white loonies in Pretoria...the two of you can fight all you want while the rest of us move on with our lives

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 14:15

      @Oscar, just a correction, I don't generally hate whites. I hate the system that Americans and Europe use to destabilise Africa for their won selfish interests. I further hate anyone who supports that system. I like anyone who supports the simplest thing we need as Africans, "just to be ourselves and do things in our own way". You will judge where you are in these two categories of people.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 14:46

      Azande, your comment "I am yet to live in a dream land where we have ridden all the Western and European filth within our borders." can be seen as you hating white people because we are mostly descendant from Europeans. Be careful with such comments I do agree with you that this country needs to detach itself from western aid and become self sufficient, this can only start once we stop fighting among ourselves and believe we are entitled to it. As for the conspiracy that there is a movement to destabilise africa...that is debatable and treads precariously on the realm of conspiracy and speculation. Many African leaders know this and use it to evoke fear and paranoia...because that's how a dictator stays in creating a ghost of an enemy that must be defeated. I would be more concerned by the more obvious attempts of our government to destabilise its own people. Ask yourself why has it taken over 19 years for education to reach the few people it has and why in the past five years we seem to be moving backwards? It's because this many out there, understand that a largely ignorant population will forever be stuck in poverty. And if these people are poor and are not taught to think for themselves then they will listen to a government whose prime interest is to control them.

  • Marius Cromhout - 2013-05-26 12:41

    Mugabe is a joke who cares enenyway what he has to say

  • Glenda Gert - 2013-05-26 12:41

    I have to agree with this greatest leader. Mandela sold black people out.

      Ollie - 2013-05-26 12:47

      Because black peoples lives are better in Zim?

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:11

      @Glenda, not in a real sense of selling out. but he and his cronies adopted moderate liberation strategy which has left us with more problems.

      Steve du Preez - 2013-05-26 13:17

      hehehe - @Glenda I can see on your FB page why you'd think that!

      Jakkie Seven - 2013-05-26 13:19

      I guess that includes the 4 million strong black middleclass with a combined spending power significantly more than the white middleclass? You have such a chip on your shoulder you are beyond help...

      jakkie.jvr - 2013-05-26 13:34

      Azande, you are foolish if you think Mandela's policies caused the high unemployment rate...amongst others; too fast a population growth and a huge uncontrolled influx of immigrants, a large portion of them coming from your Icon, Mugabe's country, has caused this. Please, for your own sake stop with this populist nonsense, it is getting old and is an insult to any logic.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:48

      @jakkie, I don't expect to understand what we need and fought for as Africans for obvious reasons. mandela and the ANC has sold us because they betrayed the primal African agenda which is the holy grail of African emancipation.

      Pierre Nortje - 2013-05-26 13:56

      Het die ander madam jou uiteindelik afgedank?

      Pierre Nortje - 2013-05-26 14:28

      Wat vra jy 'n dag daar in Grassy Park vir jy weet wat?

  • Harley Quin - 2013-05-26 12:44

    Harsh words from a Dick-tator

  • Tboy Makhanya - 2013-05-26 12:46

    Mugabe is right blacks are stil suffering because of Mandela. Our forefathers lay dwn their lives during the struggle n 4 wat? 4 only hs children 2 benefit. Viva Malema 4 president viva..

      Ollie - 2013-05-26 12:48

      Why wait for Malema when you can pack your bags and head to Zim now?

      Vannessa Jooste - 2013-05-26 12:49

      It seems to me as though being a complete ignoramous is contagious...

      Janus van Schalkwyk - 2013-05-26 13:39

      Your forefathers laid down their lives so YOU can have a better future. Now you are in a country with endless opportunities....but you are stuck on what happened in the past. Sit on front of your computer and tell us how they suffered because I am sure you experienced it first hand. Nothing comes to those who wait and complain except for the suffering that you talk about....go out there and make things happen!!

  • Herklaas Von Gaglenbergh - 2013-05-26 12:47

    So here's a brain teaser; whom has done better for their countries between Madiba or Mugabe?

  • David Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 12:48

    A legend in his own small mind unable to comprehend true greatness and destined never to achieve it.

  • Cayle Barsby - 2013-05-26 12:48

    Mugabe you are a joke

  • Amos Jaja Job - 2013-05-26 12:48

    For once I agree with Mugabe.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:17

      I hv been agreeing with him for so many years.

      Kortbroek Du Plessis - 2013-05-26 14:59

      Azande if Mugabe's policies are so wonderfull, why does most Zimbabweans choose to live in SA? Please explain

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 15:44

      @Kortbroek, if you are a good and rich parent but no shop allows you in to buy anything from food to clothes, wont your kids leave your house? Will that mean you are not a good parent?

      James Silver - 2013-05-26 15:45

      Mugabe has got this one right. Poor South Africans still ask "What Freedom?"

  • Zolisa Dlokovu - 2013-05-26 12:48

    I agree with Pres. Robert Mugabe.I have been saying the same thing for many years

      Logic - 2013-05-26 12:56

      you dont like it go to Zimbabwe or leave the cities founded by non black people and see how well you do then

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:14

      @logic, tackle the issue not the man.

      Logic - 2013-05-26 13:26

      @Azande I agree the issue is more important but we cannot tackle it if people like this exist

      Werner Nel - 2013-05-26 14:04

      Sodid you vote for him?

      Logic - 2013-05-26 17:19

      the issues being the rubbish that is both the South African government and the Zimbabwean government

  • Theo Martinez - 2013-05-26 12:50

    don't think anybody needs any lessons or advice from that dictator lunatic.

  • Livhuwani Lybon Tshihatu - 2013-05-26 12:53

    is that what you call blasting mandela????...come on give me a break News24

      Kenny Bianco - 2013-05-26 12:58

      They are sensation mongers these Anti-Africans

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:19

      I am glad you seeing this ridiculous reporting of SA media.

  • Themba Nkosi - 2013-05-26 12:54

    Mugabe shall stay in the scrapyard of history. Mandela is an icon and has done what no other human being done for human advancement

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:19

      really?? think again.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-05-26 13:42

      Themba, I agree that Mandela is an icon, but let us not ignore or minimise the contribution to human advancement of people such as Mahatma Gandhi, Dr King and Mother Teresa.

      Isaac Tapfumaneyi - 2013-05-26 15:00

      wat did he do for blacks that live in shacks while white people live in luxury

  • Zibusiso Mzimzi - 2013-05-26 12:55

    how can u blast the best coz u faild shame old man

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:21

      are the comments from Mugabe sound or look like blasting mandela? or the media is making to think that he is blasting mandela. please open your eyes.

  • Leonard Wesley Gray - 2013-05-26 12:55

    what a clown, an icon my a$$.

  • Andrea Thompson - 2013-05-26 12:55

    I respect Dali Tambo and like his show, but I think we all know that Mr Mugabe isn't an icon in the true sense of the word. He is a dictator and judging by how many of his fellow countrymen and women flock here in their droves, in hopes for a better future, he's not a good president at all. As for that bill he signed, it's probably not worth the paper it's written on.

  • Nsuku Ronny Rikhotso - 2013-05-26 12:56

    Who cares?

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:21

      Africans do. u should as well.

  • Logic - 2013-05-26 12:58

    Mugabe is a incompetent idiot all his policies have failed his nation and now he tries to influence another when he has no influence. If South Africa was run like Zimbabwe then I think it would be alot more worse off

  • Mokete Bans Sefuli - 2013-05-26 12:58

    keep yo zimgabe...and shut up

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 13:29

      That's where you are wrong Azande. Yes the ANC is hurting this nation now but unlike the Zimbabwean there will come a time that all races will come together and finally agree that it is up to us to put it back on it's tracks... "People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people."

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 14:02

      That's true Oscar and the ANC is also making people to be afraid of it. I can count a few incidents to support that. Malema, Pikoli and all those that were killed because they oppose some ANC ideas.

  • Kathy Fahr - 2013-05-26 12:59

    The problem is, after his release from prison, Mandela never really had much of a say in anything - his leaders did. His freedom ideals could have made SA a strong country, but his incompetent 'team' destroyed these ideals and broke SA's backbone, making it the corrupt weak country it is today. If only Mandela HAD been allowed to put his ideals through, I would probably never have left.........

      Kathy Fahr - 2013-05-26 13:01

      ....and as to Zimbabwe.....I pray that SA never sinks so low as to reach their level..... but with the leaders it has at the moment...... my heart bleeds for SA.....

  • Israel - 2013-05-26 13:04

    DROP DEAD ROB - you honestly think your people still needs you???

  • Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:04

    Mugabe is telling the truth. The Mandela led moderate liberation strategy has left us with more problems.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 13:13

      Hmmmm..let's see other countries where more a militant liberation was achieved... Mozambique, Angola, Guinea, Senegal, Mali, oh and that wonderful place called the DRC... And you think you have more problems here!??? Silly girl saying silly things should learn to think before speaking...

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:40

      Azande Futhi. Oh! really?. You mean like having to find work instead of being snowed under with everything for free?.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 14:04

      I mean, if the strategy was good, we wouldn't be sitting with high unemployment and poverty rate after 18 years.

      Rivashan Lee Sakaran - 2013-05-26 14:39

      Azande u have forgotten that Mandela was no longer president after 1999 and that is when the aforementioned things started getting out of control! So before you talk educate yourself a bit about the policies he placed and how those were changed for the greed and corruption of today's governement which seems to emulate what mugabe did when he got into power? Get it?

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 14:52

      @Rivashan, Firstly, land reform policy was doomed from the onset. we adopted what had been in practise in Zim for 14 years and we never learned from them that it was a failing policy. Secondly, the nationalization of mines should have been a policy with phased gradual implementation. It was never adopted as a policy. That is why even after 18 years of liberation we sit a problem of poverty and widening gap between the rich and the poor.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 15:05

      Azande I can see from your comments here you have the right intentions but little understanding of how the real world functions. The fact that we have a high unemployment today is not because some strategy failed but because we have a high amount of people that are unemployable...they lack the required knowledge and skills to be useful to the private sector. Until we can start getting people back into schools and learning the right skills they will forever remain unemployable. As for nationalization of want the same government that can't manage SAA or Eskom to manage the mines? You mention that we didn't see that the land policy failed in Zim, then you should recognise how nationalisation of mines failed in Tanzania and Zambia... countries that are now inviting private corporation back into their country. Let me present this scenario to you: we nationalise the mines but as the commodity market is now entering a slow period, the government owned mine will have to retrench workers to remain profitable...problem is the miners don't like this and threaten to strike...furthermore the government realises that if they don't give into the miners request they will lose many voters in the process. The result is the government keeps the mine open even though it is not profitable...and to cover costs they dip into tax money to cover the essence your tax money will pay for salaries that can not be afforded.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 16:06

      @Oscar, 1. in Libya, nationalization worked. 2. Mining industry is lucrative SA hence the average CEO earns more than R20 Million per annum. That is why more investment is pouring in despite the significant labour unrest in the industry. The returns outweigh the risks. 3. Government led mines do not work for profits, they work to make sure that proceeds are channelled to other nation developmental initiatives. Now mines rake Billions in profits every month and those profits cross our shores to America and Europe because these companies are owned there. 5. High unemployment is caused by weak policies that we currently hv. How do you justify allowing raw minerals to go out of SA to create employment abroad? For many decades raw diamond has been leaving SA to cut and polished in UK. Is that really working for us or against us? Many things I can count that are just counter-revolutionary.

      Karen Pagel - 2013-05-26 18:48

      Azande, and tell us what your solution would have been? I agree that the new government has been "soft" on whites and the horrors of the Apartheid regime and I wish "whites" would acknowledge and APPRECIATE this, because it could have been much different - the way things went for whites in Zim - but I would still like to know what your solution would have been ...

  • Zion Train - 2013-05-26 13:05

    Mugabe a disgrace not only to Africa but also to on self

      Donald Seseletse - 2013-05-26 13:09

      yes i do agree dat Mugabe disgraced de country as a whole i hv got authority to turn him down i would do so.

  • Mkhari Steven - 2013-05-26 13:06

    the devil's son,mugabe

  • Woordelys - 2013-05-26 13:08

    Mugabe is a turd. And yes, people should protest against the SABC even airing a programme that features this terrorist!!!

  • Melt Olckers - 2013-05-26 13:08

    Clearly a psychopath. Mad Bob is nothing compared to Nelson Mandela.

  • Trevor Fivaz - 2013-05-26 13:09

    Dali you are a well respected man but you knowingly dined with a murderer who has absolutely no respect for human life!!Mugabe is the devil incarnate and he has a lot of blood on his hands.

      Azande Futhi - 2013-05-26 13:29

      if your allegations were true, I am sure the hague would hv done something about it. I wonder why he is not being indicted.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:44

      Azande Futhi. The Hague is a city in Holland. The International court of Justice is situated there and they would try him if his people turn him over.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:45

      Trevor Fivaz. I also wonder what made Dahli forget his scruples.

  • Liza Hall - 2013-05-26 13:09

    Bitter old fool who is going to die with Hatred and Sin flowing through his veins! Your One way ticket to hell is waiting... Counting the days!

      Thabo Tebele - 2013-05-26 13:13

      Just like your forfathers who totured and killed our people in South Africa just because they had a different colour than them.And they did that sometimes quoting the holly bible. Give the the bitter old fool anytime.I know he is not perfect but he is a saint as compared to what your kind did for centuaries.

      Vido Jelashe Mbutuma - 2013-05-26 13:17

      forward Mugabe forward!!nah sell out your people!!True African Leader!!

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:47

      Thabo Tebele. My forefathers never killed or tortured anyone. Don't compare ours with yours. Go read your own history and see how much damage your own people did. Silly child.

  • Thanduxolo Thandekile Sigwela - 2013-05-26 13:09

    Mandela betrayed this guy to the mission agreed on, the deal was that of whites should be chased out of our land

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-26 13:16

      It's not your belongs to anyone that calls this place home. So suck it up because we are here to stay. It's up to us to live peacefully and if you can't do that then I suggest you you migrate over the Limpopo River to Mugabeland...

      Andrea Thompson - 2013-05-26 13:19

      This is God's land not your land. Furthermore unless you actually purchased it, it's not your land.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:49

      Thanduxolo. What mission to chase the whites out of this country?. Smoke less, it is curdling your brain.

  • Richard Scully - 2013-05-26 13:10


      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:55

      Jacqui got her grammar mixed up there. Sorry folks.

  • Shadrack Mosetlhi - 2013-05-26 13:11

    Madiba is a real hero a living legend'Mugabe is an icon' in heal national dictactor.Heartless war veteran selfish a KingPresident.

  • Gary Doyle - 2013-05-26 13:14

    I never wished death this badly on Osama as what I do on this horrid honyo piece of sh¤t.

  • Nthateng Thati - 2013-05-26 13:14

    Hahaha only small minded people would agree with lame robert. Mandela never planned an isolation nor does he control peoples emotions and views but he made it possibly that humanity in south africa has balance, wether black or white. Black people are afraid white people so they hide behind the word racism shame on black people, only if u went to school n spoke english. Mugabe describes freedom n white skin free country as what exactly coz the only description I get looking @ zimbabwe is opressed and poor... Clearly it proves that mandela made excellent choices by calling on peace n equality n what's the reason mzanzi is what it is today. Lol zimbabwe n mugabe needs healthy diet to think stright. Shame on u robert u so ungrateful.

  • PeterJJhb - 2013-05-26 13:14

    Your land????? Fine, u can have it. Just bear in mind.... We go, investment goes, famine arrives. This is NOT ure land!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Roger Jenkins - 2013-05-26 13:18

    These two guys are worlds apart. Who gives Mugabe and credit anyway? Mandela won the Nobel Peace prize, no prizes for guessing who didn't.

  • Sylvester Mokhutshane - 2013-05-26 13:21

    Mugabe was killing everyone,africans and europeans,farmers,Mandela did not kill people or opposition parties members nor his own black people as Mugabe states,instead he was preaching rainbow nation which some plp stil don't know what it means,I'm mean really now what is this ??

  • Hlulani Fortunate Mathe - 2013-05-26 13:21

    guys what happend to UBUNTU? cum on.... stop hating we living in a free democracy sigh

  • Madiso Mlotshwa - 2013-05-26 13:22

    Mandela can't defend himself against this despot

  • Sean Bagley - 2013-05-26 13:22

    Mugabe and Idi Amin are one and the same. 'Mugabe is an icon'...the newspaper says...Yeah an icon of destruction,starvation,human rights abuses,illegal land invasions,looting the nation's coffers,murdering thuggery,etc. It was prison life on Robben Island that made Mr Mandela such a peaceful individual and gave him the right perspective in life.Before that he was plotting all kinds activities to destroy the white man.His time in prison served him well. Before Nelson Mandela was released,Mugabe was seen as role model to the West and they all adored him for that.Since Mandela came out of prison the adulation shifted from Bob to Mandela and Mugabe never got over that.He liked the limelight from all the movers and shakers in world politics and is filled with envy towards Mandela for it. Mugabe is the lowest of the low in life.Ordinary Zimbabweans are starving whilst his own family and himself goes on luxury tours in private jets and stealing off their own people.

  • Ted Muusha - 2013-05-26 13:22

    This interview will change perspectives in this country. It will get people talking, thinking and acting. It is a godsend for far-right politicians like Malema. The resurgence of rightwing Afrikaner groups creating no-go enclaves in this country is not even helpful because as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, some later day black 'freedom' fighters will mobilise the masses and create unprecedented chaos. It happened in Zimbabwe, Kenya, Rwanda etc and South Africa is not immune. The ongoing anti-foreigner attacks are just a precursor for things to come. Only whites in this country genuinely believe that Mugabe is a nut issue. Tell that to the masses. It is time to look at the current tinderbox and to see how we can avert an almost imminent battle of the classes. For now, we call them service delivery protests or xenophobic attacks; tomorrow they may be something else if a chancer of a politician takes the 'white' word as an abomination to the masses. They will only start by refering to Orania and other exclusive enclaves. You won't have time to vent your bigoted comments on Noise24 or 25 for that matter.

      Gift Ndebele - 2013-05-26 13:32

      @Ted you took words out of my mouth let those with ears listen.. Its a pity news 24 is dominated by closed minded racists.

      Musawashe Moyo - 2013-05-26 16:18

      Talkin bout talkin deep

  • Mohamed Feroz - 2013-05-26 13:23

    Why don't you come and collect half your population from South Africa and take them back home to Zim! Also while you are @ it stop asking the South African government and tax paying citizens of this country to borrow your country money !

      Tersia Louw - 2013-05-26 15:13

      Oh dear, Paul, bit full of yourself aren't you? You will be deporting no-one, as Mohamed is a South African and BELONGS here. You are welcome to be anywhere other than SA; feel free not to darken our door.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-05-26 13:24

    One thing is certain, when Madiba is on his deathbed, he will be surrounded by love from all of us. What will Mugabe be surrounded by, other than relief at his demise?.

  • Carmen Muller - 2013-05-26 13:27

    Oh shut UP Mugabe!! Do us all a favor and just stop breathing!

  • Zuks Mtshana Nohaji - 2013-05-26 13:27

    I respect Zim press very much, but his statement truly stipulates that his does not have a heart that would accommodate the reconciliation. Peace is needed and as Christ said dnt return evil by evil. Mondela has done nothing wrong .

  • Sipho Mbatha - 2013-05-26 13:31

    But why... if mugabe was as bad as he's being portrayed (especiallly by SA whites) do his people keep voting him in as their best president?

      Nhlanhla Mkhize - 2013-05-26 13:39

      Its the same as the ANC, people are aware of corruption, nepotism and non service delivery yet they keep voting for it

      Lesvokli Pitsiladi - 2013-05-26 13:40

      Morgan got more votes last election..........just saying..

      Katlego Iggy Mokgothu - 2013-05-26 13:50

      @Sipho Mbatha i think u and Mugabe have the same narrow minded thinking capacity....Mugabe is no place to diss Mandela if Mandela was to come out of robert Mugabe's mouth is how madiba has build united developing country rather than a deteriorating state of Zimbabwe

      Elizabeth Venter - 2013-05-26 14:48

      People do not keep voting for him you idiot. Or not willingly anyway. He uses violence and intimidation when his people won't for him. And when that doesn't work the elections are rigged. I think u need to peek your head out the hole its buried in every now and then and take a look at what is going on around you. Maybe then you wouldn't be as thick as you sound.

  • Fdee Psy Dalana - 2013-05-26 13:32

    hands off my former president.let mugabe preach his rotten gospel without attacking those that differ with him.

  • Sam Mayihlome - 2013-05-26 13:32

    does this mean he will leave office @ 99yrs of age then?

      Naome Mokeki - 2013-05-26 14:12

      He wl die inside his office believe me!