Zimbabwe 'hanging tree' falls

2011-12-08 21:04

Harare - City authorities say Zimbabwe's famed colonial-era "hanging tree" crashed into the street after being struck by a workers' truck during highway repairs.

Mbuya Nehanda and other icons of the first uprising against white settlers were said to have been hanged from the tree in 1898.

Witnesses said the 200-year-old Msasa tree, declared a historic site and national monument, fell on Wednesday and some workers fled, believing it a sacred omen of "bad things to come". Crowds gathered at the felled tree on Thursday to take pieces of it.

The indigenous African tree, or brachystegia speciformis, was commemorated on a Zimbabwe postage stamp in 1996 and political rallies have been held there. Historians, however, have cast doubt it was ever used for hangings.

  • Ian - 2011-12-08 21:28

    is there anything they cant wreck

      brendaninsa - 2011-12-08 21:43

      NOT if you tell them not too.

      procold2 - 2011-12-09 10:29

      nothing is safe

      Douglas - 2011-12-09 11:53

      Hey Vicky, I am originaly from Zim and often go back to visit mates. Trust me, Black people over there are suffering the most and were a lot happier under Smith...Go and ask them if you don't believe me.... You are so stupid to even compare Mugabe to Smith. Smith was a great leader who was sold out by the Brits and South Africa.

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-08 21:32

    I wonder if the people in Zimbabwe would prefer it for Ian Smith and his government to return? I wonder if they possibly feel deep down that they had it better in those "evil colonialist" days?

      Hey Joe - 2011-12-09 05:34

      @ Peter. Is "gorilla" the operative word?

      Smell - 2011-12-09 06:09

      Peter. Would "meddling in politics" mean exercising your democratic rights? And "50,000 families killed" has the smell of an African "brother leader" like Idi Amin and Mengistu, not Ian Smith. The Apartheid death toll has been estimated as between 20,000 to 30,000 over 40 years. And you are suggesting Ian Smith has killed over 50,000 families? That would translate into 400,000 people judged by the average African family size. Really? You are either grossly misinformed or lying through your teeth. Idiot.

      Iwan - 2011-12-09 07:56

      Peter, hope your figure does not include the odd 200000 killed by Mr. Mugabe. I would like to see your credible source from where you get your figures from, please. If you can't provide, then I call "fubar".

      Iwan - 2011-12-09 07:57

      *20000 NOT 200000

      GLY - 2011-12-09 08:58

      @Peter. You admit that you were not alive during Smith's time, so you need to understand that whatever you have been told could have been exagerrated. You state that your parents have very bad memories. This in itself would indicate to me that the figures mentioned are likely to be exagerrated. Remember that at that time there was a lot of propoganda from both sides. I have very close information and what you are saying about collecting free food and then killing them by hundreds or thousands is not true. Wherever you got this information from is not correct. You say that the population decreased. There was never any census done in those years and there is doubt as to the accuracy of the birth and death records in the rural areas. Without a proper census your figures must be considered to be subjective.

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-09 09:00

      You seem to be much more brainwashed or you might be amongst those who benefited from Mugabe's scholarships. I am not impressed with your comments that are influenced by what you have in expense of the majority.

      David - 2011-12-09 09:33

      Make up your own minds Let's not forget about the poor white souls who were hung from trees on their rural farms in former Rhodesia. Some of them pregant white women. Many of those who survived, fled to South Africa with only a suitcase in their hands. They survived to tell the tale and don't rely on made up thumb sucked propoganda statistics. A photo can speak a thousand words! Peter your parents and grandparents were very cruel people when given half a chance, remember, for every action there is a reaction! If you watch this video I supplied, then you too might find it extremely hard to believe that Ian Smith was responsible for the genocide of 400 000+ black souls!

      GLY - 2011-12-09 09:45

      Peter your information was gained fr0m text books. I ask written by who. Remember that the record of history is tainted by the eyes of the author. Let me just tell you that I was alive during that era and none of the people that I came into contact with at that time, most were in the forces, mentioned the massaccres that you stated. Rural people wer put into "keeps" to a) prevent them feeding ZIPRA and ZANLA as well as to protect the informers. Does you book record the geurilla tactics of cutting of lips of informers and forcing their wives to eat it, or the killing of a 6 week old farmers baby by kicking it down a veranhdah. Yes war brings out the worst in people because it is kill or be killed. I say categorically that your information source is extremely biased. Try and get hold of press reports from that time. If they still exist.

      Jobho - 2011-12-09 09:49

      I hope i will give a balanced view. I dont think the Smith days were better as we enjoyed none of the things that my friend @peter here is bragging about. at the same time its not better under uncle Bob we have suffered just as much as we did under the smith era. for the whites living under Smith was way better than now but for the blacks I would say i havent seen change. Smith was good for his people and Bob is good for his own people(the likes of Peter) but both of them are not good for the majority of zimbabweans. I have seen both worlds.

      Marc - 2011-12-09 09:50

      @Peter: The older generation believed that children should be seen and not heard. I gather you believe that whites should be seen and not heard? If so, you have the intelligence of a garden chair!

      Chum Scrubber - 2011-12-09 10:34

      Peter, you confuse me with what you accept as good. Your reasoning makes little sense to me, you basically say Zimbabweans now must just accept their lot in life - no matter how unfair it is. The okes in power now will be there forever, like it or not? My, but you have high aspirations for the people of Zim. The massacre story is interesting, I do know of one of my SADF mates saying they had to "clean" out an area, so some truth exists there I think. You seem to condone the Matabeleland massacre though - why, just because it was black on black. Bit hypocritical.

  • Dave - 2011-12-08 22:19

    Par for the Zimbo course.

  • Fhatuwani - 2011-12-09 10:59

    Your group five company and others have continued to undermine our heritage in Africa. Why do you erase the history and memory of the people, that constitute part of the identity of Zimbabweans. These construction companies understand well that before anything, they should have conducted an environmental heritage impact assessment study to identify, determine and calculate the risks that may be broughtforth by their activities. I hope the COP17 conference will address issues affecting our natural heritage as a continent. Jokes aside, But Bra Rob! I think someone need to be electrocuted for this Bra Rob. I suspect they are missionaries and British imperialists Bra Rob! and they are plotting to loot and destroy your natural resources Bra Rob. LOL

      Horst - 2011-12-09 11:37

      Yes, you see, it was probably a fiendish plan by group five. They deliberately used an incompetent driver and told him 'what ever you do, don't touch that tree'. I hope you have a sense of humour Fhatuwani, judging by your post I somehow don't think so.

      Chum Scrubber - 2011-12-09 13:40

      Don't really understand what you're on about dude, but is does sound like you're taking the mickey out of the issue at hand. Too cryptic for my brain to grasp though. Horst, think you missed the humour too.

  • Ann - 2011-12-09 12:09

    Bugger the politics! Has no-one any sympathy for the tree???

      claudia.ochsner - 2011-12-11 00:26

      Ann: I do ... it was a beautiful tree. Even the trees hits the ground in my old home.

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  • Nakita - 2012-01-06 15:38

    wait what am i missing? what did peter say? please someone fill me in because from what i have seen so far i am under the impression that he has no flippen clue what he is talking about.

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