'It hurts to hear the struggle song'

2011-09-17 14:30

How much pain is caused by using the k-word? What happens in the inside of a black person when called a kaffir? Well, it is not difficult to imagine. No doubt that it must have a painful and negative impact, causing the recipient to react, verbally or even physically, but in most cases probably in silent rage and hatred.

This racist name has been with us for a very long time and it is so easy to fling around. I remember when I used to throw it around. The time came, however, when I realised this was wrong and needed to change my mind set. Today, I am an outspoken advocate against using the k-word.

However, I now find myself at the receiving end of something even worse. Something that not only makes me feel the same as those receiving the k-word, but also having my very existence threatened.  It is called “shoot the Boer”.

Writing a letter like this will not reach the masses out there singing the song, but it may reach those black people who are also against it and are able to speak up, but who choose to do nothing.

I read with interest the article by Khaya Dlanga “The K is not OK, OK?” Khaya, you clearly have a good understanding of being called the k-word and what it feels like. Do you realise that there are now victims on both sides of the scale? It is no longer singularly about the k-word, but about all that falls in the same category, even “shoot the boer”. I like your articles; they are eloquently written, but how about something against singing the anti-white song? I dare you, or does Malema scare you?

My black friends, you know how hurtful it is when being called the k-word. You know how it strips you of your dignity and how it enrages you.  Now, can you imagine how I, as a white man, feel when they sing “shoot the boer”? Do you realise that this is not only cementing the foundations of the racist divide, but also threatening the very lives of white people? It hurts the same, if not more, to hear the words “shoot the boer” as it hurts you being called the k-word.

I thought the struggle is over. Malema wants to continue the revolution. What revolution? To ransack this country, take from the whites and enrich himself, and you fall for it?

I have yet to see or hear any black individual or group taking a public stand and seriously support the whites in stopping the singing of this song. Are you not concerned over what is happening, or are you perhaps too scared to speak up?

My black friends, the Madiba dream has faded away. Among other reasons, this is also due to the mentality and actions of both users of the k-word and “shoot the boer” song.  Are you going to sit idly, watching the very fabric of this country being ripped apart? Please, if you know it is wrong then speak up.  Help stop the singing of this offensive song.

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  • gatvol4corru - 2011-09-17 14:39

    The "struggle song" is part of history. Nobody denies or belittle it. The fact is,it is HISTORY and should remain there. Today is for today. We want am equal society,same rules,same principles,same life. Sadly,the ANC insist with the "we demands" and this creates a negative environment between racists. Yes,it divide's more then unite. In unity,we can achieve a lot. Most people in SA,irrespective of their colour or creed,want's the same. I hope that Jacob & Malema will start to "listen",instead of demanding all the time.

      The_Realist - 2011-09-17 17:04

      this brain dead racist chant was first chanted AFTER the end of apartheid! so therefore can NOT be a struggle song!

      sikuma - 2011-09-17 17:35

      They never learn that singing that song will indicate them as crime committed against humanity and war criminals. All the UN and international conventions are clearly saying this. This 18yrs old heritage song will mock the 99yrs old ANC liberation movement as a terrorist movement.

      piet.strydom - 2011-09-17 18:21

      That song MIGHT be considered a struggle song, but what do you call this:

      henrileriche - 2011-09-17 19:09

      Everyone is going on about this particular song and how it is part of the "struggle". However, did black even think about this for a second? Of all the struggle songs out there from ANC history, why did Malema have to go and choose this particular one???? Come on black South Africans. It's not rocket science, though might be for a considerable among us.

  • mphoza@ - 2011-09-17 15:04

    no greg the struggle is not ove, the strugle is now for economic emancipation,

      Debonaire - 2011-09-17 15:17

      Well then write another song for that struggle

      Proefleser - 2011-09-17 15:24

      Mphoza, the struggle for equality was won because of pressure, mostly from the international community. Will the struggle for economic emancipation - as you call it - receive the same support? You can bet your bottom buck it won't, because every *sane* person here and overseas can see that it is a senseless movement which will destroy this beautiful country. They reason, and rightly so, that if 17 years of AA and BEE couldn't fix the economy to you satisfaction, you should stop interfering in that which you know nothing about.

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-17 15:36

      you sound emancipated already. Your 3rd world IQ is showing comrade. get back into your hole. This topic is above you

      Frungy - 2011-09-17 15:57

      What does telling people to kill farmers/afrikaaners have to do with economic emancipation? Look at the list of the richest people in South Africa. 30 years ago, they were all White, now they're mostly Black, and almost all of them (white or black) are either ANC party big-wigs or connected the the ANC. Like Motsepe, Sexwale, Ramaphosa, Makhozoma. Malema would probably be up there too if people could get into his secret trust funds and find out just how much money he really has. Face it mphoza@, take a look in the mirror. You're looking at the enemy. Don't blame the boere, your own people sold you out.

      prsephton - 2011-09-17 16:16

      @Mphosa, "Economic emancipation" starts with improving education standards and health standards. Education equips people for life in a competitive society, and improving health standards gives people a future to live out their dreams. Did you know that our current expected lifespan in SA is just 51 years? For one or another reason, African countries seem to share this common fate regardless of GDP/Capita. Did you know that our infant mortality rate is very nearly the highest in the world? And, did you know that for several years, our HIV/AIDS mortality rate had the dubious honour of actually being the highest? Yes, it is going to be a struggle to achieve economic freedom, but the way to get there is through health and education, not through BEE and AA.

      Sinudeity - 2011-09-17 16:38

      mphoza@ - Seems you have access to the internet. Seems you have your economic emancipation. Lets look at some facts and figures. 5 million white people in SA. The black middle class is now as big as the entire white population, excluding the black diamonds. So it seems that the 5 million white put 5 million black people on the same level as them. Now, the other 34 million black people not in the middle/upper classes are remaining. Im guessing though that you want 5 million whites to uplift another 34 million blacks? 34 million? Lets see, white people have on average 2 kids per family. Black families have on average 8 kids. 17 if the mom and dad are unemployed. You do the math. Its supposed to be both of our jobs, but it seems here that you dont want to work with the white man in achieving this goal.

      tailormade - 2011-09-17 17:01

      Sinu, It goes even deeper: there are only about 2.1mil economically active white people in this country. Even if all the whites give away their will hardly make a dent in the black unemployment figures. I agree with you: it's these basic maths that are never taken into consideration when the politicians get carried away. We cannot escape the reality: we need urgent rapid educational impetus & massive massive massive job creation.

      John - 2011-09-17 18:34

      Emancipation ? it sounds to me like you guys suffer from mental constipation....not economic emancipation

      Sinudeity - 2011-09-17 20:12

      BloodRiver - What are you? A white julius? Your type of comment is no more helpful than the 'shoot the boer' song. Be the change you want to see.

      Orca - 2011-09-18 07:45

      You are absolutely right, mphosa@ but the whites in this country choose to ignore that. The fact that we have some of the worst poverty in the world is SA despite being a very wealthy nation resource-wise, is due to massive mismanagement of the country by whites for more than 300 years. That needs to be rectified and soon. And I am white by the way.

      Brannas - 2011-09-18 09:57

      Article in the Londen Times Affirmative Action " South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others." London Times

      Krush - 2011-09-19 08:08

      @mphoza - Economic Freedom only starts when you use your skills and education to create your own businesses. STEALING established businesses that you are only capable of running into the ground does not equate to freedom. Taking one man's coat and giving it to another still leaves one man without a coat. Creating 2 coats keeps both people warm. Do you seriously fail to see the logic in this?

      Werner - 2011-09-19 11:25

      Guys, you're talking to a brick wall. mphoza@ is beyond help. I don't mean to be mean, but clearly the unrelated comment made by mphoza@ shows linear thinking and zero consideration for the actual substance/gist of the article. They are puppets on a string. They hear the words 'emancipation', 'struggle', 'undermine', and they start dancing to their puppet masters, chanting the words like dumb parrots reciting something they do not understand. Simple case of 'they don't know what they don't know'.

      sardonicus - 2011-09-19 14:58

      IN other words, mphoza, what you saying is "steal, loot, rape and plunder!"

  • James Peter - 2011-09-17 15:31

    Oh for crying out loud. Can we all please just man up and stop being so scared of Juju and his small band of tsotsies? There will always be supporters of a dictator, even Eugene had a gang. There are many good people of all colors that will not let this twit hurt their families without a BIG fight. So it's saturday, the Bokke smashed Fiji. Have a braai and chill. We will get rid of him, either the easy or hard way doesn't matter.

      EkEnDjy - 2011-09-17 15:52

      This is very well said James! People like to flee to their cupboards and grab the guns in panic. Do people really think everyone will just sit back and watch another dictactor try his luck? Not the people of SA!

      U1 - 2011-09-17 17:14

      One question. Did the majority of Zimbabweans invade farms or was it a small group? Closing your eyes for the reality that is upon you will not make it go away. Who is standing up to malema? You? At the last meeting malema spoke at and that was televised, the majority of people were middle aged, not youngsters. He has stronger support than you realise. He is speaking what they, the majority want to hear as in 17 years nothing has changed, they still have no jobs or prospects. When the anc hits the fan, think again.

      piet.strydom - 2011-09-17 18:19

      This is why hate Malema in particular, and hate speech in general should be stopped: Warning, do not go there if photos of old women and children brutally murdered, tortured and hacked to pieces offends you. Also not if a photo of a baby wrapped in newspaper and set alight turns your stomach.

      John Jameson - 2011-09-19 08:52

      @ piet.strydom I saw that genocide museum website, and the collection of gruesome photographs certainly drives home the message of the atrocities being committed. It has to be said, though, that the cartoons and other propaganda seriously detract from the credibility of the site. It is every bit as deplorable as Julius Malema’s call to shoot other South Africans and a small step from a call to another mindless war.

  • tailormade - 2011-09-17 16:56

    Greg, it might surprise you to know that the ANC actually denounced this song, as part of its struggle history, in 2003 during a SAHRC case. Something must have changed since then.......or the ANC's recollection of history is very short-lived indeed.

  • mabsie - 2011-09-17 17:42

    Thanks for your article. Yes, I agree. That song makes me angry, scared, vengefull, depressed. It makes me feel that there is little hope to be able to live side by side in peace, with respect, forgiveness and compromise.

  • mabsie - 2011-09-17 17:50

    Education and health - yes for sure. However, if tomorrow we had greatly improved schools, curriculum and taechers of quality unlimited would it get bums on seats and into books? Health statrs with ourselves and mothers play a pivotal role in raising healthy children. Would a fantastic health system for all get people to overnight look after themselves and children better?

  • J T - 2011-09-17 17:51 “Section 38(c) of the Constitution provides that any person can act as a member of a class in approaching a court when alleging that a right in the Bill of Rights has been infringed or threatened2. In giving effect to this section of the Constitution, the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) held in Permanent Secretary, Department of Welfare, Eastern Cape v Ngxuza 2001 (4) SA 1184 (SCA) that s 38(c) of the Constitution authorised the use of an American-style class action. It must be emphasised that the use and recognition of a class action in terms of the Constitution has application only in circumstances where a Constitutional right has been infringed or threatened. (Continued next page...)

  • J T - 2011-09-17 17:53

    The SCA indicated that the requirements for a class action contained in Rule 23(a) of the US Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (the Federal Rules) were applicable in South Africa (certainly insofar as "Constitutional" based class actions are concerned). Rule 23(a) of the Federal Rules provides that one or more members of a class may sue as representative parties on behalf of all if: the class is so numerous that joinder of all members is impracticable; there are questions of law or fact common to the class; the claims or defences of the representative parties are typical of the claims or defences of the class, and the representative parties will fairly and adequately protect the interests of the class. These four requirements are commonly known as ‘numerosity’, ‘commonality’, ‘typicality’, and ‘adequacy of representation’. Apart from the Constitution, recent legislative reform affords standing to persons to institute actions on behalf of a class when enforcing rights or seeking certain remedies under that legislation.” Here is the above website again pertaining the above given explanation: Respectfully.

  • 4skin - 2011-09-17 18:08

    As of today I pledge to stop singing K***the f*** song,how many of you swear they will never use the k** word again?

      Hennie - 2011-09-17 18:58

      I haven't used that word since school days. And in those days it didn't have the same meaning to us as the impact it had on you. I feel ashamed that I got pulled into something like that. Mindlessly using a word with no meaning to me, but years later, when I grew up, I realised the impact it had on other people so I stopped. Maybe it is time that the section of our population that still tries to spread hatred realises it too and then stop. I am happy that you will stop singing songs full of hatred. Just as I was happy to stop saying words full of hatred. But don't do it as a deal... Do it becuase you want to be a better person than Malema will want you to be.... Do it for yourself.

      BernieK - 2011-09-17 21:33

      So why did you sing it in the first place? Did your mother not told you that it is wrong to sing k... the f...?? Where did you learn that? Good that you decided to stop. Now, your next stop is that racist tsotsi. Go preach to the racist fat tsotsi that it is wrong to sing k... the f.... I dare you to go to that criminal tsotsi and teach him a lesson.

      prsephton - 2011-09-17 22:32

      What K word?

  • semaj - 2011-09-17 18:13

    Let us not forget the statement that whites are criminals

  • Lacri - 2011-09-17 21:50

    Why does hearing a struggle song make you feel so threatened? Watching the rugby this weekend, it struck me that the haka is a good parallel - historically it was a declaration of intent to kill or maim, but in the context that it is now used, nobody interprets it that way. In order to feel threatened by a song containing the words "dubula ibhunu", you must be interpreting the song not as historical but as contemporary. In other words you must have a reason for believing that the people singing it want you dead, now, in the present. Why do you believe that?

      chrisbc - 2011-09-17 22:44

      How many rugby killers are actually killed during a game after the opposition performed the haka. How many farmers in SA are killed every year. Can you make the connection?

      DoublySalmon - 2011-09-17 23:12

      The different is the Moari are not responsible for 32507.25 deaths a year in New Zealand and they're not known to have killed 3000+ Pakeha on their farms. Moari-Pakeha relations are very good and there is little ill will amongst the people. Nobody who sees a haka expects to be killed - as a white man I'd stay far away from chanting black youths out of fear of getting killed as I expect a white man daring to go close to such a mob will be killed.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-09-17 23:14

      Lacri - I'm convinced that a substantial number of black youths want white men dead and white woman raped. Don't we see this everyday already?

      Harold - 2011-09-18 08:31

      I take your point but when it is used to mobilise uneducated youths who cannot reason like you do then it is hate speech, dangerous and a call to arms. It's all within the context which the song is sung, haka is performed. The haka performed in front of a mob with a spokesman calling for action against a specific minority group is a very different matter and would not be tolerated by the Kiwis.

      Lacri - 2011-09-18 19:13

      Harold, why do you think they cannot reason like you and I do?

  • Royal_Bee - 2011-09-17 22:05

    The only reason a lot of black people dont speak up about it is not because we're scared, nor do we think it's right.. Its because we feel there is no use in defending the white race by saying the 'shoot the boer' song should be stopped, where the very same white person you defend, is going to turn around and use the k-word against you. We know it's wrong, and quite frrankly, the song is used as a retaliation against racist white South Africa, and I use that term also emphasising that I acknowledge that not all white people are racist, not all blacks are racist either.

      kilo39 - 2011-09-18 07:39

      in support of your note I would just like to add that my assosciates, family and friends are fully aware of my 'hate' of the use of the 'k word' and know that if it slips out, I will give them hell. I must however add that at least half the time I have heard it in the last 12 months, that it has spewed forth from the mouths of non-whites including blacks, and it is used to describe someone who is being particularly stupid and illogical. I am also told that black people also use this word when describing other blacks so the usage has mutated somewhat, but this in no way makes it's use acceptable. Please tell me that I am right!

      unwanted - 2011-09-18 11:49

      So you are saying that respect starts with other people? You will only respect others when they respect you? You will be waiting for a very long time. The whites can turn around and say that they use the K word because of the racism expressed by black south africans too.

  • WhiteAgent - 2011-09-17 22:44

    @ Greg Saunders You're wasting your time, you can't reasons with blacks. They aren't like us.

      kilo39 - 2011-09-18 07:44

      I don't agree with this statement. You are lumping all black people under one umbrella and this couldn't be further from the truth. I do agree that you cannot reason with the empty vessels that are making the most noise though, and 99,9% of those making this noise at the moment just happen to be black.

      WhiteAgent - 2011-09-18 08:05

      If I hear someone say "You can't say XYZ because you're generalizing" one more time I'm going to scream. Yes I can generalize. If the statement I am making is true the majority of times then I SHOULD generalize. NOT doing so would be dishonest. Let me say it again ... you can't reason with blacks and you can't trust them either. History teaches us that.

      prsephton - 2011-09-18 10:02

      Why do you think that is so? Is it because of culture? Religion? Different ethical standards? Mistrust and hatred? What makes the white man so different after 400 years together with the black man in the same geographical location? There has been intermarriage and interaction- in some cases we share a family. What is so different?

      WhiteAgent - 2011-09-18 15:38

      @ prsephton In my opinion it's ultimately genetic. Percentage wise that genetic difference is very small but it manifests itself through cultural differences in a dramatic way. If we weren't social animals it probably wouldn't make of a difference. But we are.

      Royal_Bee - 2011-09-18 16:27

      Your comment just says one thing about you... IGNORANT.

      WhiteAgent - 2011-09-18 18:19

      Well hello there Royal_Bee. Why don't you tell me why you think I'm ignorant. I'm listening.

      Royal_Bee - 2011-09-18 22:05

      White Agent my friend.. Stereotypes = Ignorant. The statements you are making are of a stereotypical nature, I'm not pre judging your character because I obviously don't know you, but the statements you are making do paint a negetive picture about you.. I may be wrong. But its easy to judge other people saying you cant reason with them before even knowing them. People on this website are quick to use racial slurs simply because their hiding in front of a computer with an anonymous name. Is it REALLY that difficult to just be nice to the next person, whether they're black or white. #If i'm right, the next response to this post will probabaly be racial attack or trying to prove a point by saying one race is more superior than the other.# But bear in mind before you respond.. Stereotypes = Ignorant

      John Jameson - 2011-09-19 08:58

      You can't reason with people you don't understand, especially if you don't even try to. But that's not their fault.

      sardonicus - 2011-09-19 15:02

      Please tell us how you feel about coloureds? I'm a coloured as defined by the old government. How about Jews, Indians, Portuguese, c'mon now that you're being so honest about it!

  • Wendy - 2011-09-17 23:03

    A revolution is a struggle against the rulers of a country. If there is a so-called struggle then the words of the ANCYL's song should be changed to "Shoot Zuma" because he is the ruler of this country. The truth however is that there is no more revolution or struggle in this country, it's just clever word-play by a money-hungry anarchist who plays on the feelings of uneducated masses.

  • Chabi - 2011-09-17 23:34

    I personally hate the song, in fact the ANC must find it irrelevant after their conclusion of the Groote Schuur Munite with the Apartheid regime, it has nothing to do with the Struggle Culture\ Heritage... while Greg is wrong on the struggle being over the the song is about to insult only, because clearly it does not cause death by itself of any white people for political reasons.

  • Linda - 2011-09-18 02:45

    Economic emancipation, from who? the ANC have ruled South Africa for 17 years. I have to laugh when I think that in a nation of nearly 50 million people, many black people still perceive whites who total 9% of that 50 million as a threat. We must really scare the crap out of Malema and co, but I think it's more than that. It's Malema and his cronies using hate speech and racism to get what they want. They don't care about 'the people'.

  • Odinist - 2011-09-18 06:27

    They can have their song and be proud of their history. I am proud to be white and our treacherous ways of ruling the world then and now.

  • Hugh - 2011-09-18 06:47

    Oh stop whinging and learn. Take note of what is happening everyday.The singing of kill the farmer should be taken as the future mindset. The embeded hate for whites all round. Learn from the mistake that Rhodies made when they also said this is my country and I stay. Did you know that white Zim pensioners do not get their pensions in SA? That if you try leave Zim that it is far cheaper to leave empty handed as the state takes it all anyway. At least you have a chance of returning now and again to grab some cash if you pretend to be returning. Little things that are done to rob the econommicaly active that can easily be implimented in SA. Look and learn, complain if you wish but never forget to be prepared for a quick out. Never thi8nk the nworld willcome to your rescue or that the consiti=ution will protect you. it is a paice of paper that can be flouted any time by any government. Think of the number of times alreadythe governemnt has these laws and you will see the future. Think the new Information act - this is against the highest law in the country but still it is implime nted.

  • kilo39 - 2011-09-18 07:23

    It is quite a simple equation. 'Economic emancipation' for those demanding it will not happen in our life time, for one very simple reason...and that is because our population is too big. The ANC government has failed to create jobs because their agenda is chasing away foreign investment, they are making it more desirable for business to mechanise because of labour related issues and it is a fact that labour are treated better by white employers than by the emerging black employer. The singing of 'struggle songs' serves to alienate the races from each other and as the writer rightly points out, blacks aware of and opposed to their patently inciting literal translation and qualities have a genuine fear of raising their voices against the use. Whites who still use the 'k word' are just as idiotic and must get real. We are all 'recovering racists' by some degree and must make a genuine and concerted effort to fix ourselves. The alternative of 'rubbing out' 20 million of the population is in fact desirable if 'economic emancipation' is to be achieved....and mabe this is where the ANC is leading us.

  • papaown - 2011-09-18 08:40

    now this is something i can subscribe to. I was disappointed and disgusted that a court could make a ruling to ban the singing of the song publicly or privately. I felt Afriforum should've engaged like you did now to request the song not to be sung anymore, in the manner you did. But to go to court to have it banned is outrageous! even the K word is not banned ,it is extremely hurtful to black ppl but you cannot go to jail or be fined for using the word, unlike singing "shoot the boer" these are not what Mandela fought for, and was prepared to die for. by the court banning the song it inadvertently brought more supporters to Malema's cause by saying "we still dont have freedom even after winning the revolution" thus the revolution continues

      Pulverturm - 2011-09-18 11:43

      You're incorrect, you CAN face charges (Crimin Injuria) for using the K-Word!

      unwanted - 2011-09-18 11:58

      Funny I missed the part where JM was sentenced to jail time for singing "shoot the boer" Maybe you could point me to the article. Afriforum did try to resolve the issue amicably initially but Malema continued singing the song and even threatened them with a repeat of the Shell House massacre. Personally I think the song should be banned only in being used in the way that Malema does it. But I do not see papaown's logic which he is claiming blacks have "Because I am not allowed to threaten whites I am not free" It appears to me that that is racist, threatening, aggressive logic. Remember your rights only extend until you step on other peoples rights.

  • Nasdaq7 - 2011-09-18 17:20

    It is no use trying to convince Malema supporters, they are savages.

  • mphoza@ - 2011-09-18 18:05

    @BloodRiver well ges what m studying engineering at wits so ya ill be geting a job in 2 yrs from

      radarblip - 2011-09-19 06:38

      nicely said. bloodriver is a tit.

  • johnnymacza - 2011-09-18 21:59

    I do not recall ever singing a hate song when I was doing national service. when we did sing it was positive uplifting songs.

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