New human species found

2010-03-25 08:11

Leipzig - A new species of human life has been discovered in Russia, thanks to DNA tests on a finger bone that was excavated in Siberia, scientists based in Germany said late on Wednesday.

The person, estimated to have lived 30 000 years ago, did not belong to the Homo sapiens species, the only form of human life today, but also wasn't a Neanderthal, a species that died out 35 000 years ago.

The Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig made the discovery, which is reported in Thursday's issue of the science journal Nature.

The find suggests there was yet another emigration of hominid ancestors from Africa, where all Homo species have their ancestral roots. Previously it was thought that only Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Homo erectus managed that long-distance relocation.

The bone, which was found in 2008 in a cave in the Altai Mountains of southern Siberia, yielded enough mitochondrial DNA to be analysed by a team led by Johannes Krause and Svante Paabo.

  • The Truth - 2010-03-25 09:11

    Evolution doesn't exist. Its a religion, not science. All part of the NWO plan

  • trueblue - 2010-03-25 09:24

    each new fossil find only further muddies the waters of evolutionary theory.

  • djvol - 2010-03-25 09:52

    And so continue the farce of evolution. Why is there still people wasting loads of money on this type of research that is an insult to human intelligence.

  • Clive Frank - 2010-03-25 09:56

    Evolutionists can form a whole man from a single ; the "Nebraska man." The bone then must proved to be from an ancient donkey or similiar animal. God did not make man from a monkey but man is always trying to make himself one. Good Luck

  • Daryl - 2010-03-25 10:03

    Everyone seems to ignore the Biggest flaw with Darwins theory on evolution. THE MISSING LINK! how can a theory with a huge unexplainable chunk missing? he missing link on it's own only validades the fact that there was a strong Extra-terrestrial presence in the past. (hence the pyramids & stonehendge)

  • @djvol - 2010-03-25 10:14

    there is money involved...its good to toe the line and continue to receive a salary and funding. There is a whole list of dissenters who have lost their academic posts for speaking against this theory of human origins. Its the only available option for atheists and so heavily defended.

  • Gonzo101 - 2010-03-25 10:20

    Yes, and the world is only 4000 years old and a guy on a cloud made it all in 6 days. At least they have a bone or some tiny piece of proof, more than I can say for bible bashers

  • willimpie@Daryl - 2010-03-25 10:20

    The missing link has just been found in Russia. Eat your shorts...

  • Schalk - 2010-03-25 10:29

    @djvol - your intelligence is an insult to all humans. I cant begin to inform you of you stupidity so please keep on walking or read a book.

  • Truth - 2010-03-25 10:29

    There may be a missing link in the evolution theory, but the gap becomes smaller and smaller with every new find. At least it is better than the huge missing link found in creationism.

  • Ennui - 2010-03-25 10:36

    You guys are so right. Humans didn't evolve, an invisible bearded man in the sky poofed us into existence out of some dust, in a nice garden with a talking snake.

  • swirl - 2010-03-25 10:41

    Okay okay...I'm coming out...jee-wizz. I AM THE MISSING LINK. :)

  • Devils Advocate - 2010-03-25 10:55

    Can hardly call DNA evidence religious. All the above arguments are emotional and not based on facts. (Even sensing a bit of paranoia from conspiracy theories.) So it is suggested that all research should stop just because there is money involved?! That is one way to get the human race back to a stone age you probably don’t even believe in… LOL.

  • Carolyn - 2010-03-25 11:02

    INteresting, I have always believed that man, or preferably the black man originated in Africa, this could be a sign that not all of us are originally from this planet,There are still today, various species of human living that could date back to ancestors of millions of years ago, take a look around you, what do you see, or are you to blind to see changes. there are so many humans that are lead, brainwashed, and will follow their ancestors and the tales that they are told, like a sheep leading a flock of sheep, Wake up to the fact that no matter where we came from in the universe, we are lucky to have come to this planet, it is the only one we have and we are already killing it.

  • Kage - 2010-03-25 11:12

    By the comments here I can see that Neanderthals are no extinct.

  • @ creationists, esp Clive - 2010-03-25 11:25

    Why don't you people read textbooks instead of regurgitating the crap you've been told by like-minded, ignorant religious folk? By stating that evolution implies man is evolved from a monkey clearly demonstrates that you don't even know what evolution is about; obviously you've never read any textbooks and acquired your outlook/opinion by talking to bigoted folk and reading creationist disinformation. I challenge you: read up, instead of simply holding on to what you want to believe

  • lightning from the east - 2010-03-25 12:03

    evolutionary theory = naturalism = metaphysics. The theory is based upon a particular worldview, which is a philosophic presupposition. All those trapped in the delusion of evolutionary theory are the ones who need to do some reading.

  • homo novus - 2010-03-25 12:34

    no-one knows exactly what the common ancestor between chimps and humans looks will they ever know that they've found it?

  • to @ creationists, esp Clive- from Clive - 2010-03-25 14:47

    Are you saying then that the story re: the Nebraska man is not correct? This is where I got the information from: textbooks. Further there is more evidence to substantiate creation and the Bible than the theory of evolution eg;discovery of Noah's ark,chariots under the Red Sea etc. I suggest that you also read books pertaining to these discoveries. I am a truly objective person and did read on Darwin and his theories and basically am not convinced at all. I would not refer to creation as "crap" as at the moment there is more proof than the "origin of species" which is total garbage. Unless you can refer me to a book which states and proves otherwise.

  • Watcher - 2010-03-25 15:00

    i wonder how many missing links must be found. Ooooo they found a body thats been underground some time, (if i say millions of years then i would be telling a fairy tale)just because its deformed from the ground, doesnt mean its the missing link.

  • @ The Truth - 2010-03-25 15:12

    You have been so indoctrinated by years of theology that you are lost and confused. Evolution is more real than any god you worship and has more evidence to support evolution than there is to support the existance of your flawed idea of creation. The next thing you're gonna tell me is that the sun still revolves around the earth like your Keepers of Faith so proclaimed many many years ago. But hey, if you wanna believe in fairy tales handed down and distroted over the millenia by scrupolus self serving bigots so be it. Keep your head in the sand and keep the faith.

  • Mike O @ Creationists - 2010-03-25 15:31

    Clive et al. should read Richard Dawkins' "The Greatest Show On Earth" if they want to know what evolution actually states and what the newest research indicates.

  • Ennui - 2010-03-25 15:44

    @lightning. Unfortunately evidence trumps presuppositions every time.

  • to Mike O from Clive - 2010-03-25 16:15

    Thanks Mike will do but would really need something "earth shattering' to change views.
    For interest sake there has been interesting prophecies in the scriptures eg; the book of Daniel(speaks of the kingdoms of the world and prophecied hundreds of years before the events), Isaiah (prophecies concerning the messiah), which just cannot be ignored but imply that there is a greater power at work.

  • Kabza - 2010-03-25 16:41

    If you don't believe that God is for real then wait till you die then you will know that God is for real.

  • pawsaw - 2010-03-25 21:44

    While knowledge and science may indicate that man evolved it has yet to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Some of that knowledge supports the Creationists as well. DNA shows that all mankind originated from Africa however the Bible only records selected portions of man's genealogy in much the same way as evolution only has theories about man's origins. DNA links a finger to to humankind as opposed to another species but without the whole skeleton the evidence is missing. Archaeological digs prove that certain parts of the Bible definitely happened as well. Why are atheists so totally anti Christian anyway? If you are comfortable with being an atheist/agnostic/? why get so upset with people who believe otherwise.? Are you afraid that maybe, just maybe you may be wrong?

  • Nico B - 2010-03-26 03:48

    A few copy and pastes from Nature for you to spot the difference in certaity level. "stratigraphy and indirect dates indicate that this individual lived between 30,000 and 50,000 years ago" Every dating method has its assumptions since one can only study the present. "reveal that the bone may (note the may) belong to a previously unrecognized, extinct human species" "Researchers not involved in the work applauded the findings but cautioned against drawing too many conclusions from a single study. "With the data in hand, you cannot claim the discovery of a new species," says Eske Willerslev" So the new species is not discovered as yet. "If (note the If) further work does support the initial conclusions, the discovery would (note the would) mark the first time that an extinct human relative had been identified by DNA analysis." "the mtDNA evidence does not verify that the Siberian find represents a new species because mtDNA is inherited only from the mother. (not so a small amout comes from the father) It is possible that some modern humans or Neanderthals living in Siberia 40,000 years ago had unusual mtDNA," "Although the absolute dates depend on several assumptions and are subject to uncertainty" (there you have it) How can they proclaim a new species since the definition of a 'species' include reproductive isolation. Did they test it? A Great Dane and a Chihuahua is in the same species although they are reproductively isolated. A bison and a cow are in different genera yet they produce little beefalos.

  • Watcher - 2010-03-26 07:45

    I really honestly do feel sorry for evolutionist, i hate the fact everytime they explain something, they talk in circles not getting to the point and in the end it doesnt make sence anyway i though i can make my own comment against their religion of evolution. i cant belive how posioned science is because of these NON-FACT theories.

  • AccidentTheory - 2010-03-26 08:40

    I find it funny that people find it so easy to believe that life on our planet is just one huge coincidence or accident. there was a big bang and then things got started, chaos just automatically sorted itself into a perfect structured order all on its own. kind of sounds like a miracle to me. so i dont see how believing in a higher being is that more far fetched really. i really dont. things on earth seem to follow patterns and designs. where did these designs come from? what did they evolve from. why does maths and science exist. what are the chances that without some kind of intervention that that single living cell would eventually be at the point where it can think up its own scientific discoveries, create music, decide between whats wrong or right. man has come so far as to ponder their own creation! i believe there is a god but hes not a bearded man in the sky (please dont be so naive to take what you were taught about God in sunday school as fact) i believe he's the ultimate scientist. who knows, maybe he used evolution as a variable in his creation model. i suppose he/she probably chuckles at us while he waits for us to figure out all the things he's already designed. are there answers to everything in the bible? obviously not but i think God wants us to figure some things out on our own. but it really doesnt matter what we were, its matters what we become :)

  • JP Erasmus - 2010-03-26 11:26

    1 Small bone... how do we know where it came from? How do we know it came from a humaniod being ? the frog DNA matches ourers 95%... If I look at the plans from one Architect they all look similar, identical traits... All that we know is that there was one designer, becuase all things inherit the same design patterns... just as you know a Guess from a Levi, a BMW from a Merc , even if the badges are removed, One designer for all living things.. mwhah! If evolution where thru than all things would be different, than DNA , the plan for all living things would be deferent, not all things would have even have DNA..

  • Anni - 2010-04-28 11:14

    How come they found mitochondrial DNA to do the DNA tests on? If the person was estmated to have lived 30 000 years ago, there couldn't have have been any cells left to extraxt the DNA from...?

  • Rubbish - 2010-04-28 12:42 What a load of crock!!! Composition of the ground, climate etc all contributes to the decay of bones. Take that scull they found lately, give me the software program, and I will make it look like an ape. Perception... As for DNA, well now, you need DNA to test DNA.... I do not think that there were test centers or storage facilities then.. Oh, if we are so many years old, why is the population so small??? Why have we only come so far in technology if we are evolving??? Was has evolution stopped??? Why has morals and convictions of humans degraded??? Evolution dictates that we continue to work towards perfection, do you see that happening???? Tell you what though, more cities that have been lost 1000's of years ago have only been find because of the Bible. The Bible explains the reason for so many different languages through out the earth. Contains prophecy given 100's of years before they actually become fulfilled... You know, I would rather believe and put my faith in something that gives me hope, than live a life with no meaning. In both cases, faith is at the root of it all... No one was around to see neither evolution nor the big bang take place!!!

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