Zuma: Climate talks not like soccer

2011-12-06 14:54

Durban - The climate talks in Durban should not be like the Soccer World Cup where only a few teams qualified and there was only one winner, President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

Countries should rise above national interests when negotiating about what needed to be done to deal with climate change, he said.

"This event is not like the 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup tournament that we proudly hosted, where only a few soccer teams qualified, with one ultimate winner," Zuma said.

Speaking during the high-level dialogue and round table on global sustainability in a changing climate, Zuma said all countries had qualified to participate in the COP 17 talks and all should emerge as winners.

"According to your programme, you will continue with extensive deliberations on possible solutions for what we need to do now and what we agree to do in the future."

National interests

It was important for countries to think beyond their national interests during negotiations no matter how difficult that may be.

Developing countries feared their economic development could be hampered by countries which had contributed immensely to the concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

The global emissions of greenhouse gases from the developing countries were growing rapidly, Zuma said.

"The developed world must continue to take the lead. On the other hand, the developing countries must show a willingness to take their fair share of responsibilities."

SA believed that without a multilateral rules-based system there would be no guarantee that countries would honour their commitments to reducing emissions that caused climate change.

The discussion was attended by scientists, heads of states and Jean Ping, the chair of the Commission of the AU.

Zuma said it was important that the level of ambition on dealing with climate change should correspond to the demands of science.

Gloomy picture

"Any agreement on a future response should also take into account what science prescribes, as well as the outcome of the 5th report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change," said Zuma.

Before Zuma's address, Professor Johan Rockstrom, chair of the 3rd Nobel Laureate symposium on global sustainability, painted a gloomy picture of the effects of climate change.

He said there would be huge chaos if climate change was not addressed, and poor countries would be the hardest hit.

Rockstrom said it was unfair that the developed countries, which were regarded as major contributors to emissions, would be the least vulnerable to effects of climate change.

Climate change would increase drought in Africa which would lead to poverty and the monsoon rains would be disrupted, making people unable to predict the weather.

  • Heiku - 2011-12-06 15:17

    Please stop embarrassing us JZ. Go have a shower.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-12-06 16:37

      I blame apartheid for Zuma's luck of knowledge on certain things.

  • Jerhone - 2011-12-06 15:28

    did his one brain cell think of this subA line or did his cronies come up with it? he should now be awarded the nobel prize for idiot of the year

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 16:50

      Without any actual facts to counter what he said, just making personal insults, do u not think your comment make you a perfect candidate for the said award?

  • Bokfan - 2011-12-06 15:33

    Eish Jake Zak thinks the world is full of herdboys who will appreciate his little homilies. Sorry bru it may wash in Nkandla but out here most of us can handle grown up concepts like "shared responsibility", "joint commitment" and "balanced outcomes" Thats what you get from a prez who like his beer from a Dulux tin

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 16:53

      Herdboys actually referring to???

  • swavka - 2011-12-06 15:52

    Your analogies suck JZ.

  • Dane - 2011-12-06 15:55

    "Speaking during the high-level dialogue and round table on global sustainability in a changing climate." Zuma and high-level dialogue, is this a joke!

  • Koos - 2011-12-06 16:08

    esh... i cant believe!!

  • Larry - 2011-12-06 16:12

    I am surprised that he knows the difference.

  • Jan - 2011-12-06 16:14

    President Zuma is not a scientist and is at the mercy of his advisors, as most world leaders are. How does one chose good advisors?

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 16:47

      jerhone, assuming that a black man is only good for gardening hey? Your ignorance does not do u any justice

  • robbie.crouch - 2011-12-06 16:14

    What a stupid comment to make JZ!

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  • Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 16:55

    Funny how none of u, other thn ignorant insults really said anything to discredit what Zuma just said.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-06 17:59

      lorenzo blow it out of your a*se

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 18:17

      jerhone your comment just proved what kinda person you are and yet some1 even like yourself finds it fit 2 comment on others

  • madsipho - 2011-12-06 16:59

    Give that man a condom coz shower is not working.

  • Msholozi - 2011-12-06 17:41

    our great leader may not be insulted for his words, he is giving the facts as they are

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-06 18:23

      Agree, funny how no1 is countering him on the facts said, but they rather reduce themselves to a level of personal insults, the irony being these insults are on a intellectual basis...

      Jerhone - 2011-12-06 20:50

      Lorenzo you deserve insults because you must be as brain dead as your hero prez bobjaan, give me just one good thing that moron has achived while in office, except rape and make children and lengthen the gravy train that the tax payers must support, the man is the laughing stock of the 1st world, well next to mad Bob, so don't talk about irony or interlect

  • Cathy - 2011-12-06 18:36

    This climate bubble is going to burst pretty soon. Many now recognise the current hype as just another scam for the distribution of wealth. Communism failed, so let's try a new approach. Yes! The world's climate is changing and it IS worrisome. It happened before on a similar scale, and then it caused havoc. It may very well change the way we live and survive once more. Human activity wasn't to blame then, and it isn't the main culprit now. Volcanic eruptions, changing course of ocean currents, earthquakes and unusual sunspot activity all influence the climate far more than any humans can. That's not to say that we should stop protecting our planet. Forest clearing is wrong, over population is 'n threat, the pollution of air and water should be curbed, recycling is a given. Europe and North America are experiencing the coldest winters in human memory. The citrus fruit in tropical Florida froze on the trees last year. That's when Florida had its first snow ever. The true reasons for climate change can only be recognized if and when the far left greenhouse emmission lobbyists and activists stop their shouting and fingerpointing.

      StirMonger - 2011-12-06 19:02

      Many more hardy species than mankind have failed to survive the test of time. The current change cycle is becoming too drastic to become reversible, We must see the writing on the wall that we are destined to become just another a natures failed experiments. Greed is just not going to allow a change to the status quo. Unless our descendants find a magic wand or whatever they are facing a world of increasing hostility.

      Soetdoring - 2011-12-06 23:25

      @ StirMonger- You have to know recent and prehistoric climatic history to realise that what we experience now is nothing abnormal. Here is a very short list of more recent events: 1481: Sea Floods In Holland Drown 100,000 1607: 8-Meter Flood Surges Over Areas of England 1620: Pilgrims of Plymouth Suffer From Severe Drought 1667: Virginia Hurricane Destroys 10,000 Homes - Twelve Foot Waves 1703: Perfect Hurricane Hit England – For Over A Week 1762: In the summer of 1762 the longest drought on record in America occurred 1778: remarkable disappearance of ice at high northern latitudes reported 1780 to 1892: Glacier Bay Ice Retreated 50 Miles 1790 : Mildest January Ever On Record In Philadelphia 1803: Farmers' Crops Suffer From Long Sidney Drought 1804: "A change in our climate is taking place very surely." - Thomas Jefferson 1806: Report On The Significant Climate Change of Great Britain - More Humidity, Clouds & Cold 1809: Thomas Jefferson Reveals That Snow Is (Nearly) A Thing Of The Past 1816: 519 Manhattans Worth Of Glacier Ice Broke Away From Greenland And so on ... and so on ... (for a more complete list see ) For a discussion on the fact that the current rate in temperature change is not above normal see

      Juan - 2011-12-07 06:33

      @Soetdoring indeed we watch the news and we see stories of drought, famine and natural disasters every day, and assume the world is coming to an end. But these events have been taking place for millions of years. It's because of the modern media that we are more aware of these events than our forefathers.

      StirMonger - 2011-12-07 10:27

      @Soetdoring & Juan. Your points are correct but still reflect events of recent times. That is, since 7billion odd people were let loose on the planet (and by the way that’s not millions of years). The fact is that change is happening at an ever increasing rate so as to decrease the chances of prolonged survival of the species. I make no statements regarding the causes (definitely plural) of the current change cycle; but draw your own conclusions. There is plenty of evidence available to see that serious climatic changes in the past have caused “mass extinctions”. Of course the world will continue and species will survive but probably without the one species that tries to change the environment rather than adapt.

  • George - 2011-12-06 20:37

    Many have found solace in insulting Jayzee mainly because of the color of his skin. It is for this reason I am inclined to continue to treat white people with some caution. They can’t be trusted. Once racists, always racists. I pity my black brothers who are not seeing these people for what they are. I will shake your hand while holding a dagger on the other. Even the dumbest of them all are quick to insult.

      Juan - 2011-12-07 06:49

      I have been reading news24 for quite some time, and I can tell you there are many black racists out there as well. Trust would depend on the person, not the colour of his skin.

      StirMonger - 2011-12-07 14:49

      @George. Maybe you should be evaluating people by their behaviour rather than colour. I'm sure that there are both good & bad on both sides. JZ’s behaviour & many others included is not exactly exemplary.

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