DA mayor mum about Verwoerd bust

2011-05-05 12:52

Johannesburg - A "skelm" DA removed a statue of Hendrik Verwoerd in the dark of the night from the municipal offices in Midvaal, but an anonymous call to the rival FF Plus chairman let the cat out of the bag.
This is according to the FF Plus on Thursday.

"You are bloody 'skelm' (cunning) when you do it like that," said Freedom Front Plus Midvaal chairperson Corrie Pyper.

"I was at home when I got this phone call saying they are removing the statue. At 22:00 at night! When I got there, the whole council was standing there, looking at me as if I am 'gemors' [rubbish].

"Ja, they weren't happy to see me," Pyper told Sapa.

Truck seen removing bust

He said he saw a truck transporting the bust of Verwoerd away.

"I'm not saying apartheid was right, but it is still part of our history.

"If you want to do something like this, you tell people: "Luister, ons gaan julle oom wegvat. Kom neem 'n foto, kom stort 'n traan.' [Listen, we are going to remove your 'uncle'. Come take a picture, come shed a tear."

The mayor of the Democratic Alliance-run Midvaal, in the south of Gauteng, was silent about the story on Thursday morning.

Timothy Nast's personal assistant told Sapa his office's phone was ringing off the hook and promised that he would comment soon.

Nast was quoted in The Sowetan newspaper on Wednesday as saying the DA would rather spend money on service delivery than use the money to remove the Verwoerd statue in the hotly-contested Midvaal.

ANC welcomes bust’s removal

The ANC pounced on the DA, with spokesperson Jackson Mthembu saying it confirmed "that the DA shares apartheid sentiments and philosophies".

The ANC on Thursday welcomed the removal of the bust but charged that it was not done voluntarily.

"While we welcome the DA succumbing to pressure to remove the statue of Dr Verwoerd the ANC remains convinced, because this was not a voluntary action, that the DA is a party committed to reinforcing racial segregation," said ANC head of elections and NEC member, Ngoako Ramathlodi in Johannesburg.

"Verwoerd remains a symbol of apartheid and we believe that this is the reason why the DA has fought to keep the Midvaal lilywhite," Ramathlodi said.

Hotly contested region

The Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) in Gauteng said the statue deserved to be "thrown into the dustbin of history".

The FF Plus, however, said the DA now had a lot of explaining to do to the "mainly Afrikaner community" of Midvaal.

"This action by the DA was calculated and happened at night, two weeks before the local government elections, to win over black votes in Midvaal," FF Plus Gauteng leader Jaco Mulder said in a statement.

"The DA is no friend of the Afrikaner."

The Midvaal is hotly contested terrain in the May 18 local election poll - with the ANC determined to wrangle it out of the opposition's hands.

  • Kooven - 2011-05-05 13:03

    Okay, so now it's gone are the (FF+) going to bitch and moan for another 2 weeks, until something even more petty presents! Why did they cANCer complain in the first place? Didn't they run the Midvaal region before the DA, why couldn't they take it down or did they share the same apartheid sentiments and philosophies as Verwoerd..

      G.du Plessis - 2011-05-05 13:17

      I think the bust belongs in a museum. The FF+ are going to steal DA votes now though and in the end the ANC will win Midvaal. The FF+ need to butt out unless they prefer ANC to DA?

      Kooven - 2011-05-05 13:23

      Direct quote from the region’s mayor Tim Nast said the municipality never owned the statue and it was removed by a cultural group. “There will always be allegations and accusations on these things but the fact is that it has been returned to the body that owns it,” said Nast. He said it was collected in the evening because the contractor was only available after-hours. Enough said...the DA has spoken!

      Gatvol - 2011-05-05 13:27

      Next the DA will be blamed for a missing toilet seat in Midvaal.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-05-05 13:27

      The ANC will benefit from DA and FF+ fighting. Something I do not want to see - before this country is a true democracy, we need to have voted in a different government a few times, to prove that government is accountable democratically and that the people hold the government to account!

      Thabiso - 2011-05-05 13:28


      Phila G - 2011-05-05 13:30

      I think like everything else that happens in the country the people have been disregarded..I wish we could adopt the US style of doing polls now and then on issues of this country, it should have been up to the people of Midvaal to decide if they wanted it to stay on. (it does not offend anyone)

      Joe_Massahar - 2011-05-05 14:01

      The difference between the ANC and the DA is that if something offends someone, they try and do something about it (i.e. remove the statue). The ANC on the other hand won't stop singing an offencive song without going to court!!! Bloody ANC!!!

      clark - 2011-05-05 14:38

      - Okay, so the DA has bent bacwards, yet again to appease the Anc. Now tell me honestly if this event and the toilet saga, will be the end of the Anc's mudslinging ? Most definitely not. People , this is a losing battle against an Anc who are not interested in peace and harmony , least off all the nations well being and prosperity. I honestly have come to the conclusion that we will need to collapse (Zim style) before any rebirth and recovery is possible. I hate to say it ,but we are firmly on course toward a failed nation. The upcoming municipal elections will be the acid test for this country. With a reduced Anc majority, there could be hope - anything less than that will signal disaster. We most surely need a divine intervention.

      Howzitekse - 2011-05-05 15:40

      What is the + for in FF+ ?

      Patrick - 2011-05-06 14:51

      the + just means its a new upgrade.. pretty much like verimark products.. you get the twister.. and now you get the twister plus..

  • Ano Nymous - 2011-05-05 13:05

    I am a (non-ANC) Afrikaner and find "shoot the boer" and the bust of Verwoerd equally repulsive. I must say that I am shocked that it was only removed in 2011...

      The All Seeing Eye - 2011-05-05 13:11

      Its part of history. If it's not bothering anyone or inciting hate anyone then leave it People 100 years from now would like to look at history and issue would be less emotional. Since the ANC complained about it to win poltical points it pretty much had to be removed. Shoot the boer however incites hate espeically when sung by poltical leaders

      donkerhond - 2011-05-05 13:18

      There are far more deserving 'Afrikaners' to have a statue of than Verwoerd. I'm glad it's gone

      BurnInEffigy - 2011-05-05 13:24

      In light of the Dubuhla Ibhunu (spelling?) song i think we should shut up and let it go... or we might be part of a bit of hypocricy?

      Gorilla - 2011-05-05 13:27

      If we had to remove statues that offended people, there would be none. Statues only get removed by people who want to make a political point or provoke a sector of the population.

      DeonL - 2011-05-05 13:28

      I agree with All, it is part of history. Why should we only remember the good? Apartheid was bad.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-05 13:37 was long overdue...

      steve - 2011-05-05 13:37

      This is exactly the same as "shoot the boer" but only not as bad, if "shoot the boer" is ever allowed then we need more of these busts.

      Bongza.GP - 2011-05-05 14:44

      Isn’t it interesting that the sculpture has not been vandalized after so many years? Many of the Tshwane street furniture have been spray painted, shot at, dug out etc etc.

      Carl Muller - 2011-05-05 15:45


  • bosegoos - 2011-05-05 13:05

    I am no supporter of the FF Plus but must agree that the clandestine manner in which the DA acted, apparently to win some black votes, must be criticised. Transparancy should be adopted.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-05 13:32

      It is all about the 'black vote', the DA is showing signs of being desperate here.

      donkerhond - 2011-05-05 14:25

      Why would they care about the black vote in a municipality they already govern?

      Point Blank - 2011-05-05 14:39

      And you are all speculating, typically obtaining your sources from poorly written online articles..... you all should be ashamed of yourselves, such low-level thinkers.

  • tokoloshe - 2011-05-05 13:13

    it was nothing personal by the DA I can assure you that! Come on people have some common sense here

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 13:15

      They only making space to put up a 30m high statue of Andries Pretorius, a true Afrikaner hero!!!!

      BurnInEffigy - 2011-05-05 13:25

      Lekker OUPA ANDRIES!!!!!! Woooooot! What a legend!!!!!

  • Shisstirrer QBE - 2011-05-05 13:14

    That thing should've been removed years ago . There are'nt many statues of Addie still standing is there .

  • AntiTroll - 2011-05-05 13:16

    Removing the bust? fine. No problems. Removing the bust at 22:00? Bad move by the DA. Rather be open and tell the people that the bust is going to be removed on date X at time Y. PS: Don't feed the trolls!

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-05-05 14:27

      I support your campaign

  • ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-05 13:16

    FF dit is tyd dat julle besef dat julle niks op julle eie sal kan doen nie ,ontbind en word deel van die DA

  • daaivark - 2011-05-05 13:18


      chris.debeer1 - 2011-05-05 18:45

      Hy sal nie eers familie van jou wees verlangs Sy intelek oorskadu joune so Daar kan geen Familie band wees. So slaap gerus

  • Derek - 2011-05-05 13:19

    Why didn't the ANC remove it when they ran Midvaal for two terms? They use it for vote catching when the DA is in charge. Talk about expediency! The ANC dirty tricks are going to mushroom in the two weeks. Vote DA for a true multi-racial democracy and a better South Africa for all with minimal corruption ( yes, nobody said the DA are perfect but they are generally a shining light!)

      Point Blank - 2011-05-05 14:46

      @Blaq, "you whites.." Stupid racist.

      huts25 - 2011-05-05 15:28

      @Blaq- you are the racist idiot. Derek has a legitimate point, however you are the one who reduces it to a question of race. I truly hope one day people like you will see past race and vote for a change from the corrupt and incompetent ANC government.

  • boanergesza1 - 2011-05-05 13:21

    What is interesting to note, is that the ANC run Midvaal 10 years ago didn't remove it either. Now suddenly the cry foul? I find this very strange.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-05 13:33

      Why did the DA remove it now?

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-05 13:53

      Paul, probably because the ANC questioned it now. Are you sure it was the DA that removed it? Either way, if it was more important, the ANC would have questioned earlier, and it would have probably been removed earlier.

      Maddy-CT - 2011-05-05 14:13

      @ paulmandlankosi. The statue has been there for more than 30 years, and I think the question you should ask is why did the ANC not remove the statue during their two terms of administration. Is it perhaps because their constituents did not complain or find it offensive? I am surprised that you of all people don't seem to see the hypocrisy here, or perhaps you do? In any event, the DA returned the statue to its owners, the Klipriver Vallei Kultuurraad, a local cultural organisation. I don't know if that organisation requested the return of the statue out of fear that it would be destroyed, but it was returned to them in consultation and with the agreement of the organisation. The ANC obviously used the issue as an attempt to smear the reputation of the DA and to stir up emotions, so for the DA it was a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think they did the correct thing in returning the statue to its owners.

      Point Blank - 2011-05-05 14:48

      @ paul, who said the DA removed it? This is election time, all kinds of finger pointing is going on right now and you go believe everything that is said. Shallow thinking my brother....

  • Barbara - 2011-05-05 13:22

    But surely anybody can't just go and remove public statues? Does this mean that I can just go and take down whatever I want?

      Gorilla - 2011-05-05 13:28

      Only after 10.

  • kolobe - 2011-05-05 13:22

    the da should simply increase black management representatives if they want black votes and let it go in line with the demographics. acting like witches at night will not help at all

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 13:56

      if they could only find suitable qualified and competent ones I'm sure they would.....:).

      SSRat - 2011-05-05 13:57

      But do you agree that they did the right thing by removing the bust?

  • Mgayi - 2011-05-05 13:25

    I think instead of removing the statue they could have erected another one right next to it . The Dr Verwoerd's statue is part of Afrikaaner history and it too deserves preservation . Can't we all just get along ?

      kolobe - 2011-05-05 13:29

      you such an ass kisser...might just get a hitler statue. afrikaners themselves want that statue removed

      Mgayi - 2011-05-05 13:48

      @Kolobe Gatkruyper , now that is a compliment coming from you . "Afrikaaners themselves want the statue removed ?" Did you consult the Afrikaaner commmunity in this regard since you are the selfappointed spokesperson vir die Volk ?

      kolobe - 2011-05-05 13:53

      check their comments,they want it in a museum

      Mgayi - 2011-05-05 14:05

      Ofcourse I read the comments in question and my posting was not in response thereof.Whether it is erected in a museum or council foyer the statue of Dr Verwoerd will still offend a certain cross section of the SA population ,the same way Helen Zille's will offend you specifically

  • Gorilla - 2011-05-05 13:25

    The DA can't win! The rest of the country is bitching that the DA do nothing about it, and when they do the FF+ have a go at them. Screw the Freedom Front, they are meaningless in the equation. If they want to do something positive they should join the DA.

  • Refilwemu - 2011-05-05 13:26

    This shows how low the DA is, and the majority if this country must NOT trust that organisation.

      Kooven - 2011-05-05 13:32

      Direct quote from the region’s mayor Tim Nast said the municipality never owned the statue and it was removed by a cultural group. “There will always be allegations and accusations on these things but the fact is that it has been returned to the body that owns it,” said Nast. He said it was collected in the evening because the contractor was only available after-hours. Enough said...the DA has spoken!

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-05 13:41

      Kooven, why repeat your cut and paste? Just plain stupid

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-05 13:55

      The reply must be repeated as often as the question Paul, we don't want the truth outvoted now, do we?

      Shai-hulud - 2011-05-05 13:59

      Refilwemu, you reason like a brick. What does this prove and how does it prove it? Idiot.

      Kooven - 2011-05-05 14:05

      Just pointing out how mislead you are... Just shows how stupid you being after reading my post on top still making comments like, "This shows how low the DA is, and the majority if this country must NOT trust that organisation"... It was not the DA's to give away, the statue was privately owned and privately removed..

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-05 14:13

      @Refilwemu When a point does not come across strongly enough the first time, sometimes you just have to repeat it like Kooven did. You are criticizing him for cutting and pasting. Would not be necessary if you took the time to read the article.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-05 14:15

      actually at paulmandlankosi, my mistake

      Point Blank - 2011-05-05 14:56

      @paul, what happened to you dude, you become a grumpy idiot lately. Not like the old paul who would engage intelligently in the past.

  • James - 2011-05-05 13:30

    This political attempt by the ANC for point scoring is so pathetic!

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-05 13:40

      They are using the DA strategy here and nothing wrong about it. And the DA woke up and removed it

      Blaq - 2011-05-05 14:13

      hey u fool which world are u leaving in, what is hell wrong with u plp u so quickly to jump at ANC. DA demolished the statue even though they publicly admit u still blame ANC. Mara ja nhe there isnt any cure for stupidity shut up fool.

      DW - 2011-05-05 15:01

      Blaq, DA did not demolish it. They allowed the owners to remove it. The statue has never been an issue before and so was left there as no-one seemed to find it offensive before (even when the ANC was in power there). The ANC actually started this whole thing by using it as a political ploy. The DA then allowed it to be removed. Case closed. Who is the stupid fool who should shut up now?

  • sardonicus - 2011-05-05 13:33

    The DA doesn't need to explain the removal of the statue of the father of apartheid to anyone. The bastard's statue should have been removed in 1994 already. Someone ought to have defaced it a while ago. He's no far king hero, I should hope he is burning in the deepest bowels of hell!

  • OB1 - 2011-05-05 13:35

    And FF+ play right into the ANC's hands...divide n conquer.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-05 13:36

    Verwoetsek...Corrie, just pyper down... Good move DA !

  • Robert Manthe - 2011-05-05 13:38

    They should remove the statue in Sandton square, and build a bigger, better looking one of Madibla, that statue is horrible.

      Totman - 2011-05-05 14:46

      No, they must not. They must use the money to build houses. That would have been the request from Madiba.

  • MinorityFreedomFighter Minority Rights - 2011-05-05 13:38

    Must agree with G.du Plessis.

  • Cornelis - 2011-05-05 13:39

    HKGK. DA julle het pas my stem verloor. Hoe kan julle die Afrikaner se geskiedenis (reg of verkeerd) so disrespekteer. Julle het 'n groot oordeelsfout gemaak en ek hoop dit KOS julle. Alhoewel ek lank reeds vir julle gestem het, was ek nog altyd ongemaklik. Dit is net asof die Afrikaners net om hul stem se onthalwe verduur. Self die anderskleuriges wat nie noodwendig vir u stem nie, word met ope arms en 'n gedans guldelik verwelkom.

      Shai-hulud - 2011-05-05 14:02

      Ja Cornelis. Jy's n eenvoudige mannetjie wat vassit in die verlede. Jy dra seker n babablou safaripak. Daar is veel beter Afrikaner manne as Verwoerd om te onthou en te respekteer.Beweeg aan pel. Verwoerd het geen guns vir ons gedoen nie.

      Maddy-CT - 2011-05-05 14:27

      @ Cornelis. I apologise for not being able to address you in Afrikaans, but I would be interested to know why you would vote for the DA, if you don't share their ideology? The origins of the present DA is rooted in opposition to the apartheid policies of Verwoerd, and its leader, Helen Zille, was an anti-apartheid activist during the apartheid years. Perhaps you are not aware but the statue was returned to its owners, the Klipriver Vallei Kultuurraad, with their agreement after the DA had consulted with them.

      mario borchards - 2011-05-05 14:49

      so Cornelius you are saying that it would then be fine to leave a statue of Hitler in a Jewish community? It is people with your and Malema's mentality that harms true integration of South Africans. Well done DA! whether to gain more votes or not it is morally the right thing to do. BTW f**k Verwoerd and his racists policies! He and Osama are probably new neighbours now!

  • willieman - 2011-05-05 13:39

    Removing or not removing it is a non event SERVICE DELIVERY IS THE ISSUE

  • kolobe - 2011-05-05 13:40

    Midvaal council 'runs the courts' May 5, 2011 | Katlego Moeng |Municipality also seems to be 'running property business' THE Midvaal municipality has been in the news over the past months after a series of evictions of property owners who have decried both the loss of their houses and land and the manner in which they were left without a roof over their heads. Midvaal resident Sonti Maseko, who has lived in the area since 1992, witnessed her home being demolished in November last year. Despite not having a place to stay, she has refused to leave and has instead chosen to pitch a tent next to the rubble that was once her home. Her husband John Zeefal and daughter Thandeka are with her. Maseko's home was demolished after a default judgment in the Vereeniging magistrate's court. As a result of her experience and the fact that she has been helping scores of other property owners in a similar predicament, the PAC has drafted her as candidate for the coming municipal elections. This is Maseko's story in her own words: I have lived in a tent in Midvaal since November, including on Christmas and New Year. Now that it is winter we have as as a family altered our sleeping arrangements so as to protect my six-year-old child. I have kept the tent there for a reason: to communicate to the Midvaal municipality and its agents that the piece of land is still and always will be mine and that I have not abandoned the fight to get it back. I have no other place to go to and no means of acquiring new land and property elsewhere. The cold snap has not made things easy. To make my situation bearable I remind myself every day that the tent stands as a monument to my harrowing experience. Many who have supported us through the hard months and have witnessed the whole saga and were themselves traumatised by the demolition of my house, spur us to fight on. My story is simply this: I lost ownership of my property in 2004 after the municipality's debt collectors, attorneys Odendaal and Summerton - Odendaal being the chairman of the DA in Midvaal - claimed I owed the council R2700. For that, in a default judgement, they asked for my property to be declared especially executable, meaning the municipality was not interested in recovering the amount by attaching my car, household goods or anything else. My house was attached as a result. I only became aware of this in June 2007 when I was notified that my house would be put up for auction in a month's time. Despite having a job and a salary that could easily clear the debt, the municipal attorneys said they would not accept my money and instead gave away my property to a third party, thereby forcing me into a lengthy and costly legal battle. In July 2007, when my property was allegedly sold, I was informed by the very municipality, some two months earlier, that my property was valued at R245000 by municipal standards, which I am told are conservative estimates for tax purposes. I have since been advised that my property, along the main road constituted prime land and would have been at least worth four times more in market rates as it had business rights. To me the property was just my home, a one-hectare happy space to make a home for my only child. This was the second time they had gone after my property, having first tried in 1999 by selling it to a company owned by then councillor Steve du Toit and his son Henk for R550, ostensibly to recover a debt of about R1600. How was this possible? Was it legal? This scenario is possible and has indeed come about because the Midvaal municipality practically runs the Meyerton magistrate's courts. The staff in that court routinely stamp piles of documents of default judgements against residents on a daily basis from council attorneys. In our experience as residents of Midvaal, properties, once attached by the municipality, are sold "at auction", where the buyers always seem to be the same people. These individuals and entities then begin eviction processes at the Vereeniging magistrate's courts, where the proceedings also leave much to be desired. The property business being run from Midvaal and paid for by Africans is a very lucrative enterprise. This is particularly so when properties - land and house - being auctioned are disposed of for as little as R100 to the buyers, who can then resell them at market rates for a minimum of R300000. So lucrative is this business that it has spin-offs that trickle down to even the security companies driving around the wards in bakkies advertising eviction and "counter land invasion" services. Syndicate members have been known in many instances to sell one property to various parties at the same time, pocketing the money and just walking away. In some cases black residents occupy properties they have paid for but have never been transferred to their names despite their having paid the transfer costs. As a result they remain vulnerable to legal proceedings to evict them for arrears and for water. The water charges and rates and taxes are Midvaal's weapon of choice. It is not unheard of for residents to be charged exorbitant amounts, often as high as between R17000 and R30000. When reporting to the attorneys to discuss their accounts and make arrangements, residents have reported being humiliated, with one elderly woman having had cigarette smoke blown in her face and told that she must get a boyfriend to help her pay her account. Others have reported being told if they cannot afford to pay, then they must go and live in the neighbouring (black) townships where they can be "packed like sardines".

      yebocan - 2011-05-05 13:54

      this disgusting, if the info is factual....for one, no office barer of the party in power in any sphere of government, should have a personal interest in any functionality of state... Cesare and his office should be beyond reproach...

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 14:02

      Booooo..fckn....hoooooo, she's not the only one who's ever lost property, just because the attorney was white and she is black it is now an issue. Cry me a river!!!!!

      DW - 2011-05-05 15:12

      This woman is talking a load of trash. If, as she stated, she has "a job and a salary that could easily clear the debt" why didnt she clear the debt before it was handed over for collection? There is a lengthy legal process before you house can be sold in execution. At any time during that, including at the court hearing where it was attached for sale, she could have offered to pay and it would have been removed from the roll. She could also have attended the auction (which may have had a reserve price of the amount outstanding plus costs) and bought it back there (maybe for as little as R100 as she so clearly states). This story is so full of lies and holes. it is time that people realise you cannot simply get property for free, never pay your rates and taxes and expect everyone else to pick up the costs. She has stated that she fell into arrears before and nearly lost it then, so you would think she would have learnt her lesson. She makes it sound like she is being victimised. I promise you that white people face the same rules and regulations when it comes to arrears rates. I have bought a property on auction that a white man lost for this very reason.

      Maddy-CT - 2011-05-05 15:20

      Kolobe, I saw this story in the Sowetan yesterday. Like most of their stories concerning the DA, it is is high in emotive language but short on facts. A rather transparent smear attempt.

      SSRat - 2011-05-05 15:34

      What's your source for this stuff? Looks like pure ANC propaganda to me, nothing but unsubstantiated diatribe.

  • yebocan - 2011-05-05 13:44

    so its gone, whats the issue?? ....FF+ rather worry about King Goodwill's mom being reburied at a cost of a few million....FF+(Solidarity X Julius - common sense) now that is an equation that get me to say....grow up!

  • Bluemas - 2011-05-05 13:45

    PDI's(Darkies,indians&coloureds) vote DA at your own risk!

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 14:03

      Didnt know they allowed laptops into pre-school classes. Shouldn't you be concentrating on your clay building lessons???

      SSRat - 2011-05-05 15:36

      Isn't "Bluemas" a slang term for pubic hair? Just wondering...

  • ? - 2011-05-05 13:47

    Things are hotting up before the elections,the DA wants non-whites to vote for them yet they couldnt remove this statue a few years ago? Verwoerd was a bad guy. If i had a magic wand,i would make all the whites and black vanish out of south africa,my khoisan ancesteral land. Both of you are the PROBLEM in this country.

      Blaq - 2011-05-05 14:16

      kiss my black ass fool

      ? - 2011-05-05 14:28

      I never will,and ill never vote for your illegitamate black government

      E.Nuff - 2011-05-05 15:28

      @Blaq - sorry - you got it worng again - the words are "Kiss the Boer" - even Julius says so. You can kiss the bust too, though!

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 16:00

      Agree with you, the land that the black claim is theirs was anyway first stolen by them from you when they moved down from north of the Limpopo. Historically the land was never theirs, they stole it by murdering the REAL historically original indegenous inhabitants, which by the way was not the Xhosa or Zulu, as they all originate from north of the Limpopo.

  • penada - 2011-05-05 13:50

    if shoot the boer song should be so rigorously defended as part of our history should not the same stand for the statue..?

  • Not_Fooled - 2011-05-05 13:50

    BullSh!t Baffels Brains-I keep away from aspects of politics I can't control, But my VOTE makes me a street politician.

  • Shai-hulud - 2011-05-05 13:53

    Hy's nie my oom nie en ek gaan nie n traan stort nie. Get over it mate. Verwoerd was part of a history that's best consigned to the history books. I'm an Afrikaner. I can rise above worshipping a dinosaur like Verwoerd.

  • kelela24 - 2011-05-05 13:53

    Those who thinks DA will bring democracy in their communities they got another thinking coming.The DA is part of the Conservative Party that used to contest with the National Party. They move around telling people that they will do better than the ANC. All the Rural Areas you see in South Africa were created by the same DA people are embracing now.The removal of the statue during the night is a proof that they don't want to be seen removing their own property. I pity those who are half ANC because they will regret the day they moved their vote away from the ANC in favour of the DA. To be honest no political party in South Africa today can claim to have liberated Blacks from Apartheid. ALL of them with the exception of the PAC are from the TBVC Government(Formerly known as SELF DETERMINATION). It is true that they want to go back to those HOMELANDS and so is the DA to change policies that will see people living under apartheid. As long as you grew up in Apartheid laws it won,t be easy to accept the White Government again. DA reminds me of Apartheid, no matter how much they try I will always associate them with Apartheid just like them associating ANC and other liberation movements as Terrorist. Hope DA will explain why they remove the statue at night not during the day in full view of the South African Media. Thanks God I will vote for my liberation movement come 18 May.

      ? - 2011-05-05 13:58

      Ill never be an ANC supporter but i have to agree with you.Those former conservative party members never vanished or joined the FF+,many joined the DA. The DA wants to potray itself as a liberal party,but dig deeper and you will find the remnants of apartheid within it,in areas such as midvaal

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-05 14:32

      The coming elections is not about opinions but about service delivery. I may not like my boss, but as long as I get my pay at the end of the day I am happy. With your logic you will continue to vote for the ANC for what they did 20 years ago. Popularity can only bring you so far. As far as the removal of the statue, the result is that it is now gone. Unlike some politicians who cannot even face up to the fact that they are being racist by singing racist songs inciting violence(if you think it is anything else you are bullshitting yourself). At least they are making the effort to correct their problems and encourage harmony. My question to you kelela24 is, would you have preferred it if they were forced to defend the statue in court? Put another way, if you tell me the shirt I'm wearing is offensive and I make the effort to stop wearing it, you would still bear a grudge.

      E.Nuff - 2011-05-05 14:33

      You are mistaken - go and do your own research. Go and have a look at the DA web-site, see what their policies are, what they have achieved. You sound like an independent, intelligent person, so go and find out for yourself what the real facts are. There are many falsehoods spread around as fact, even by people who should know better. Nothing beats your own research though. Give it a try.

  • Mchana - 2011-05-05 13:54

    who cares, let apartheid remove apartheid.

  • Mad man - 2011-05-05 13:59

    The Verwoerd statue should have hammered down day light by the suffering black communities who live in Meyerton. By Mad man

  • Who Knew - 2011-05-05 14:00

    Good riddance to bad rubbish. Should have got rid of it years ago. They should melt it down and make bronz nuts and bolts out of it.

      EmptyCan - 2011-05-05 14:09

      Same for Shaka's statue, but its better and more degarding to watch the statue being shat on by hundreds of pigeons, makes my day!!!

  • RIMRIM - 2011-05-05 14:02

    Government and political parties are there for ONE reason and one reason alone. TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY! People need to stop bitching and moaning about insignificant events and topics like a statue. Focus on the unemployment, sanitation, policing and infrastructure. ANC members completely miss the point of why a government exists in the first place. Vote for service delivery, a better future and nothing else.

  • v3 - 2011-05-05 14:03

    When the DA's opponents, both ANC & FF+,descend to the petty levels they are resorting to, you know that they have nothing worthwhile to say and the DA threatens them.

  • Rastus - 2011-05-05 14:07

    Glad to see everyone busting for the elections - augers well!

      piney - 2011-05-05 14:20

      piss off Rastus

  • Doublepost - 2011-05-05 14:23

    Remember this day! Years from now, statues of Nelson Mandela, Oliver Tambo and other ANC misfits will also be removed in the middle of the night. History is history and should be kept but poke one person in their eye over their heritage and the cycle will repeat itself. You have been warned!

      jowza - 2011-05-05 14:45

      i heard verwoeds statue is alongside saddam husseins in the dump yard

  • revolution - 2011-05-05 14:25

    O screw me. Who the F still cares about nonsense like this. ARE THERE NO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS TO RUN AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN ON? Surely the average person does not give a rats ass about the removal of a bust of a man that only caused chaos?

      jowza - 2011-05-05 14:43 so screwed, you mean diddly squat to noone

      Doublepost - 2011-05-05 14:53

      Aw, you hurt me with your profound sense of purpose! I live by my principles and mine alone. It doesn't matter to me that I mean nothing to you. In truth, only your core beliefs matter in the end. And if you continue to break them, like most people in this country. In the end you will have nothing. Life is full of lies, you need to step back and realise that everything sprouted about those "Dumb Dutchmen" wasn't true. They did a lot of good for this country and people like myself, who know the good they did, cannot change our principles, no matter how screwed you think I am.

  • Davorin - 2011-05-05 14:46

    God forbid that a man responsible for oppressing millions has his statue removed from public. FF+ you give white people a really bad name.

  • Davorin - 2011-05-05 14:48

    Replace it with a statue of Breyten Breytenbach :) he has positively contributed to the world and all South Africans can be proud of him.

  • Gert@swart - 2011-05-05 14:50

    Why do you whites hate black people so much?

      ? - 2011-05-05 14:59

      Oh cmon now. White on non-white racism isnt as bad in south africa as what it is in the USA. On the other hand,black on non-black racism is worse in south africa than in the USA

      Felix - 2011-05-05 16:01

      Because they don't have to wear sunscreen! Troll

  • alexander.lombard - 2011-05-05 14:51

    Jaco Mulder as julle so aangaan oor wat dit beteken om Afrikaner te wees noem ek my voortaan Suid-Afrikaner. Everyone wants to be proud of something but symbols of seperation like "shoot the boer" and "Monuments of oppresion" has no place in society. Some people just can't let go.

  • Bekkie - 2011-05-05 14:53

    Sounds like a typical ANC plooy to get the FF and DA into a row.

  • Objective - 2011-05-05 14:58

    Time for our nation to "grow up" !! Just look at Europe and so many other countries in the world that have experienced turbulant and good time - tyrannic leaders and the good!!! Statues and reminders of this are to been all over and accepted as part of their respective history. Tourists flock to see these and the locals accept it all as "history". Does it all really matter ? Perhaps a great tool for the politicians who mess up everything in any case!!

  • Objective - 2011-05-05 15:14

    Time for us to grow up and accept that statues etc are all part of our history. Politicians mess up everything in any case - but even their days will come and go!! Europe and other countries are richly spread with reminders of their past - both good and bad - accepted and viewed by many tourists and locals..........

  • Donovan - 2011-05-05 15:21

    The FF+ are just trying to score political points. They will never take votes from the DA.

  • Carl Muller - 2011-05-05 15:44

    They should have blown it up and destroyed it like the Brandenburg gate and wall.

  • Skilpop - 2011-05-05 16:04

    I don't understand how something like a statue that went unnoticed for a decade after Apartheid can now be such a big issue and blame on the DA. Why don't they look at the state of the townships all over South Africa that is still in Apartheid times' quality of living if not worst!!! The ANC have done nothing at all to improve the lives of their supporters. All they do is keep the majority uneducated and affraid to maintain the ANC vote. Pathetic. Mandela must be so disappointed. Everything he worked for has gone to shit.

  • Muzzy21 - 2011-05-05 16:19

    Please we all should be having a party,that man does not deserve a statue.He is the architect of apartheid.His statue belongs to Orania and to the museum of the AWB along with their paraphernalia.In Germany they have the Nazi museum where all that R*bbish is kept.All the right wing parties and Neo-Nazi must creat a museum where they can keep that statue and their hideous flag.We dont wanna see those thing in public.