DA set for its best performance yet

2011-05-19 14:09

Johannesburg - Early municipal election results on Thursday showed the opposition DA may be set for its best performance yet, while ruling party support seemed stable.

By noon, with 63% of the votes finalised nationally, the African National Congress stood at 63.36%, while the Democratic Alliance was on 22.67%, following South Africa's fourth post-apartheid local government elections on Wednesday.

In the last municipal elections in 2006, the ANC walked away with 64.8% of the vote, the DA with 16% and the Inkatha Freedom Party with 7.6%.

In 2000, the ANC garnered 59% of the local vote, the DA 22% and the IFP 9%.

"So far it's been great," DA leader Helen Zille told reporters in Pretoria on Thursday.

Zille's dance moves

"If I can get this result from dancing, I will do it again for the next election," she added, referring to criticism by her political rivals of her dancing moves during electioneering.

Her party remained in control in Midvaal, south of Johannesburg, the only Gauteng municipality led by the DA.

By 13:00 the DA had garnered 60.71% of the Midvaal votes and the ANC, which had vigorously campaigned in the largely rural area to win the municipality back, got 37.17%.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said the ruling party was "very disappointed" about this.

"The ANC must work harder, we are not doing well in the minority areas," Mantashe said at the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) results centre in Pretoria.

"We are sorry we didn't take it [Midvaal]... we really wanted it."

He said the ANC needed to "invest more time" in areas such as Eldorado Park, southern Johannesburg, which had "shifted" its vote.

But overall, the ANC had 1.8 million votes (61.99%) in Gauteng by noon on Thursday, with the DA on 950 801 (31.82%). The Congress of the People had 1.13% (33 854 votes). Gauteng's voter turnout seemed low, with only 1.3 million of the registered 5.5 million people casting their votes.

Nationally, the IEC said on Wednesday it hoped for a 40% turnout, compared to 48% in the last two elections.

Cape Town

In the hotly-contested Cape Town, it was too early for the DA to claim a landslide victory, Mantashe said. According to initial results the ANC had improved its support in the Western Cape, in areas such as Mitchells Plain.

However, the DA did seem set for a sure win. By noon, the DA had 78.94% support in Cape Town while the ANC lagged behind at 16.38%.

But the ruling party seemed to be keeping its grip on Tshwane and Nelson Mandela Bay in the Eastern Cape, two areas where some believed the DA could give it a run for its money.

By midday, the ANC in Tshwane was standing on 59.59% and the DA on 34.31%, after more than a million people voted in the municipal area. The African Christian Democratic Party was in third place in Tshwane.

In Nelson Mandela Bay, the ANC won 51.5% of the votes, the DA 40.24% and Cope 4.93% by 13:00.

In KwaZulu-Natal, the three-month-old breakaway National Freedom Party surprised many, and by midday, it had secured 2.47% of the vote nationally, compared to the IFP's 3.77%.

"We didn't expect this at all. This party is still at infancy," said NFP party convenor Evans Sosibo. "We are very happy because this sets a solid foundation for us in the 2014 election."

The Congress of the People, which was marred by in-fighting in the run-up to elections, was standing on 2.71% nationally.

Perhaps the biggest loser was the Dagga Party, which managed to secure some 200 votes, but that translates into zero percent of the national vote.

  • Shelley Pembroke - 2011-05-19 14:13

    So exciting. It gives us hope for a more well-rounded government in the future.

      Andrew - 2011-05-19 15:14

      The DAGGA PARTY would have done better ,but all their supporters were too goofed to bother voting!! Then they voted for KFC when they got the munchies!!

      MACKAROONEY - 2011-05-19 15:21

      hear hear !

      chappy - 2011-05-19 18:04

      It is great to see and a real positive sign for our democracy that people are starting to choose their votes more carefully. A landslide victory is never good in a democracy, you always need some balance. We should all be proud of our country and how smoothly this has all gone, despite the doomsayers (who are hopefully all living in Perth by now...)

      The Fox 911 - 2011-05-19 18:15

      competition is always healthy

      KP198 - 2011-05-20 13:08

      @chang-yi - you are SICK! dude.

  • devils_advo - 2011-05-19 14:15

    Where were the ancestors? On holiday?????

      objective1 - 2011-05-19 14:21

      they vote DA too...

      geewiz - 2011-05-19 14:26

      Nei man, they are deaf... all that soil that comes from being buried in the sand! LOL!

      ardeola7 - 2011-05-19 14:41

      No the ancestors were late . . .

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-19 14:41

      The DA hired the Winchester Brothers to take care of those pesky ancestors.

      onmyway - 2011-05-19 15:06

      Go Sam and Dean (Martin du Plessis);-)

      vivr - 2011-05-19 15:11

      Zuma got it wrong. The only ancestors that exist in the Western Cape are Koi San. They stayed asleep.

      ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-19 15:49

      We like the DA very much. All my friends voted DA

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 14:22

    Guys lets be fair, ANC has done a lot for the african communities.... i mean when i look around i see a lot of black communities driving nice cars and leaving in posh houses. Thus because of the constitution, now every one enjoys equal oportunities. Yes a lot of you might disagree and say that its because of bee, but my question would be if it wanst for bee would you have aloud us to enjoy in your wealth. I think most of us know the answer to that. Trust not every who votes for ANC stupid i bet even Mr Mandela keeps on voting for them, i think he sees a bigger picture, which is, only ANC has the best interest of the masses. However, the leaders sometimes let us down. That is why we need you white people and your education to join the movement and help to influance from within, but i bet most of you will frown at the idea because like it or not we still leave in a black and white country. For example how manny of you have their business in the locations?

      The Goose - 2011-05-19 14:27

      Logic, transparancy, proof, promise, maintenance. These are some of the words missing in the ANC dictionary.Words which are misused in the ANC dictionary are hope, freedom, Mandela, Boer and the list can go on..

      Lionel - 2011-05-19 14:27

      I don't think it's a case of the ANC needing us whiteys, but rather you guys joining the DA ;). It's all very well having good policies, but it's of no use if your leadership is corrupt. If the ANC actually cleaned up its act, I would vote for them again, like I did in '94.

      objective1 - 2011-05-19 14:28

      thats not what the ANC did... thats what people did for themselves.. The ANC robes the black communities too.

      Dadadada - 2011-05-19 14:32

      Mpho nice sentiment. How many black people would buy really buy a chicken from a white guy in the lokshini? What the ANC must have learnt now is that the Revolution is over. We ALL want poor people to get houses and have jobs. The DA will do this. Trevor Manual said last year that there was enough money (Tax Revenue collected) to do what the ANC needed to do, like building Houses & Toilets, if it wasn't for the fact that the Bastards were stealing the Money hahaha Viva Helen Viva!!! Phantsi ANC Phantsi!!!

      Darkwing Duck - 2011-05-19 14:33

      With all due respect Mpho. This is an overly simplistic ideal. If only you could be in a white guys shoes for a year or so, you will understand why we can't join and support the ANC which treats us as sub class citizens. There is NO WAY white voters would be allowed into any position within the ANC unless they were canvassing for a predominantly white ward. The ANC has made a very clear campaign showing they they are a black party looking after black interests. The only way to get a balanced democracy is to throw more support behind the strongest opposition. Only when they have to fight toe-to-toe for voter support will any party - ESPECIALLY the ANC - start delivering to their public with accountability. ONLY then will everyone start experiencing good service delivery, but until then...keep on toyi-toying.

      clark - 2011-05-19 14:34

      - Might I suggest you shake your head - I think your eyeballs might be stuck . The nice cars and posh houses belong to the Anc cadre elite- That is not the norm for 90% of SA's black population , who continue to live in poverty and without hope.

      swilland - 2011-05-19 14:35

      lots of truth there - but there are many issues to be considered before simply setting up a business in locations. but generally i like the tone of your email, and us whities should consider some of your thoughts, instead of always posting the same negative crap on news 24. the whites have a terrible history here, what makes us think that we can simply shout about and critisize the same 2-3 topics constantly, not one whitey in any south african government was ever free of corruption for instance. which obviously still means we need to fight it where we can, and i will keep voting DA. but still - differentiate in your thoughts / views / ideas and give credit where credit is due. i love this country more than ever and with it the vast majority of it's people.

      GT - 2011-05-19 14:38

      Dude, I used to buy the ANC story, I really did, but you chased the all brains away from Luthuli House and you are lead by a know-nuttin and his tactless left ball sack.

      PresentlyDisadvantaged - 2011-05-19 14:38

      I know many white people, family in-fact, that own and run businesses in places like Mthatha and trade in towns all along the N2 in the Transkei. The Transkei is mostly black, I'd guess at over 90% Does that make you think differently?

      Rolie - 2011-05-19 14:41

      Your spell check is broken.

      Wayne12 - 2011-05-19 14:45

      Mpho you have a few good points but I need to point out a few things you missed: 1. The majority of poor black people are still (very) poor. 2. A small percentage of black people have benefitted from BEE through structuring fancy BEE deals and taking massive incentives however true skills transfer has not taken place.(Municipal failures and incompetence is just as one example, apartheid cannot be blamed for current mismanagement) 3. The ANC no longer has the people's interest at heart. It has become a corrupt runaway machine that is not accountable to anyone because they know that they can count on the many traditional (mostly illiterate and politically clueless) supporters to vote for them. Just consider the number of scandals in government where their is just silence. How else can they get away with this unless they deem themselves as accountable to no-one? 4. In the last 14 years how many RDP houses have been built? You will be shocked to find out. The wasted expenditure and corruption in SA amounts to billions. That money could have been spent on healthcare, infrustructure housing etc. Until the masses wake up and realise that power must be stripped from the ANC to force accoutability, this country is going to run into ruin. This statement is true for any country where no fair balance of powers exists. It's almost tantamount to a dictatorship.

      Mpho - 2011-05-19 14:46

      Leonel, but you must remember that this leadership comes from the people, then we whould say the soceity in large is corrupt, any who is to say that the national party wasnt corrupt.

      ardeola7 - 2011-05-19 14:48

      Mpho, white members would have as much "influence" on the ANC as black members of the old National Party would have had, especially as the Nats, like today's ANC (which is no longer the party of Mandela), were rotten from the top down.

      Mpho - 2011-05-19 14:49

      objective1, you talk about the people as if ANC was not the one insistting for the talk to continue inspite IFP, NP AND AWVB attemping to disrupt the proceedings. mean while it was the ANC who stood firm and every one want to still our legacy. to me this is like scientist trying to still God's creation get what i mean.

      Kevin - 2011-05-19 14:53

      The DA is the only party that will treat all races as one , is the only party that will govern honestly .The anc is not a political party ,it is an old revolutionary vehicle that is past it sell by date.Join the DA and make South Africa great. Stay with the anc and watch the buggers steal the country

      Harbinger - 2011-05-19 14:56

      LOL @ equal oppertunities!! Bwhaha dude are you blind? The poor black people are poorer than ever. Its only the gravy train passengers and corrupt that have money. Things like BEE, affirmative action and discrimation on the blacks part is NOT EQUAL oppertunities, it is only breeding hate. The reason people dont have their busninesses in the location is beacause no one wants to be robbed on a weekly basis. Lets face it, moral values have a way different meaning in the two main different cultures. The only way to succeed is to demolish all opposing sides and embrace a party like the DA who TRULY has everyones agenda's and concerns at heart. Corruption, Crime and Hate speech like Malema is killing an achievable dream of a safe , beautiful, clean, country (like it was, a pleace where jobs are plenty, economy is booming and leaving your house is a safe thing to do again.

      Watcher - 2011-05-19 15:04

      Mpho - you miss the point aout democracy - it is about real multi party elections. Look what happened to Zimbabwe.

      Shees - 2011-05-19 15:05

      Ai Mpho.... you keep refering to 'YOU WHITE PEOPLE'... a little racist don't you think? I thought we were all South Africans? I agree there was no other way, than to bring BEE in, but it is supposed to be temporary thing. What is happening now? The original ANC, really did do its part, but the people running it now are corrupt. You know it, I know it. No political party should have anyone's LOYALTY. it shouldn't be an emotional thing. You need to vote for the people who deliver. As long as the ANC knows that people will vote for them out of loyalty, they will never be forced to deliver.

      Juggernaut - 2011-05-19 15:05


      Tina - 2011-05-19 15:08

      No Mpho. If all the whites - and the quite large amount of black people - who voted for another party join the ANC, this country will become a one-party state where the goverment can do exactly what they want, which will probaly be as little as possible. Other than some people, I do not deem everbody that votes for the ANC stupid. There are good reasons why some of them feel oblidged - as you have mentioned - but no competition is BAD for the game in general!

      LUFC - 2011-05-19 15:09

      Mpho, they may have done a lot for the african communities - nothing gets mentioned about whites? Why - ANC is racist. Nobody can deny it. BEE is racist. It is discrimination based on colour of skin and when you discriminate on skin = racism. @ TheGoose - Logic is the crucial one unfortunately.

      DW - 2011-05-19 15:17

      Mpho, you are right. There has been some service delivery and a lot of previously disadvantaged people have now got a lot more ito housing, water, electricity etc which they did not have before. There are good people in the ANC as well. The issue is not how much they HAVE done, but how much more they COULD HAVE done had they not stolen so much. There is just so much nepotism, cronyism, corruption, fraud and non-accountability that what they HAVE done somehow pales into insignificance. What you dont realise is that most of the whites who live well and pay a lot of tax actually WANT the poor to be uplifted and their lives to be better. Except for gripes about totally unfair and disproportionate tolls to be charged on Gauteng roads, I have not really seen much complaining here about payment of taxes. Most of us willingly pay, knowing that there is a huge amount that needs to be done. What makes us extremely unhappy is when that money is stolen and used for the upliftment of politicians and friends and the poor stay poor. In Cape Town and other DA run municipalities, there is not an excess of money. They still get their funds from central government as well as rates - but every cent is accounted for. Yes they may not yet have managed to build houses for every one who needs one, or provided electricity for all (money still only goes so far), but the money is not being wasted on tenders for friends, parties, overseas trips etc. That is why I vote DA.

      michael - 2011-05-19 15:18

      Not many business in locations because there you get raped and killed.

      michael - 2011-05-19 15:19

      Sorry Mpho but SA is one big location now.

      Nichola - 2011-05-19 15:23

      The Anc has done a lot of good, but that is what is so great about democracy you can chose who you want to vote for. Many people in the ANC have there heart in the right place, but with people like Malema spilling all his racism towards white people its diffucult to vote for the ANC when as a white person you feel threatend. It should not be about race but about all the people of South Africa underneath we are all the same.

      abrina.pheladi - 2011-05-19 15:23

      mpho,u knw wht I agree with u.we all can see de difference that ANC have made.let us not forget where we came from,ANC makes us better nd now we want to change just bcz of corruption,no,i think even during de tym of apartheid there wre corruption bt we did't knw bcz we were not incharge.people must think dt we are too much nd our country 2 develop wnt tke few years.

      MACKAROONEY - 2011-05-19 15:24

      Mpho ,I honestly think youv'e made my day.....I agree its time we started walking this path together ,and rid ourselves of the skelms and support the good guys.Well said !

      wheazel - 2011-05-19 15:34

      Mpho I can see you need to go back and get your spelling sorted.

      GLF - 2011-05-19 16:07

      The ANC is the party of the people. If they govern properly and stop being corrupt they will do much better in the future. The DA has won so much support only because the ANC has stopped caring about minorities and the poor.

      Fred - 2011-05-19 16:16

      Undoubtedly the ANC has done good in some areas, but they could have done so much more. One shouldn't compare their achievements with the past, but where they should have been by now. Personally I'm very happy that you are able to vote for the party you believe in. Mpho, it is a little difficult to vote for a party that openly calls it's supporters to commit genocide against an ethnic minority, threatens it's own supporters with ancestor wrath, let's convicted criminals go because they are buddies with Zuma, the constant mention about nationalisation which would be economic suicide, etc, etc. I voted for the ANC in 1994, until they start acting like reasonable adults they will not be getting my vote again.

      chappy - 2011-05-19 18:15

      @Sho: I don't agree with Mpho either, but that's no reason to turn violent. We're a democracy and everyone has a right to their opinion.

  • HopefulXpat - 2011-05-19 14:25

    Seems like the DA are nailing it in the Western Cape. Just take a look at that interactive map. Compare 2006 with 2011 and watch the Western Cape turn a beautiful light blue. Must be one of the most awesome things I have ever seen :-D

      Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:40

      The map is sadly very slow to update. On the bright side - even the Cape Town sky has come out in support today and is a bright DA blue! :-)

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-19 14:42

      still 2 spots of yellow.

      ardeola7 - 2011-05-19 14:51

      Now, how about becoming a hopeful repat?

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 14:52

      And it looks like some of that blue crosses the lines north?

      Juggernaut - 2011-05-19 15:10

      unfortunately still no real impact elsewhere/ PE much better but otherwise nothing to write home about. DA cannot grow much more. Stuffed from the start. If they are successful in driving better service delivery in their areas, still more Bs will come in and make the task even more difficult. So many Bs still vote on colour even with a totally failed ANC service delivery effort everywhere. Read the dumb comments from ANC supporters. 100 years on it might change not before. Get out of SA if you can and stay out if your are fortunate enough to be out.

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 15:13

      @Juggernaut, there is support coming from the younger educated generations, sadly their parents are stuck in the past but there is hope for the future...

      chappy - 2011-05-19 18:19

      @ Juggernaught: If your new life is so great, why are you trawling through SA forums? We lived in Australia for many years and returned 3 years ago and couldn't be happier back in SA. And I know that deep down, you wish you were too.

  • Cecile - 2011-05-19 14:26

    Apparently out of 23 million registered voters, only 7 million voted. Fascinating considering that is what the majority WANTED, for many many decades. Has the thrill worn off, or were the other 16 million no-show voters the ones on the street corners, trying to secure jobs? (considering we're sitting with 25% of South Africans aged 18-25 being unemployed, the no-show figure might just tally like that ...)

      Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:41

      The "no show" number is horrendous!

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 14:53

      Many chose not to vote due to non-service delivery etc. People are giving up hope...

      Linus - 2011-05-19 15:11

      They could note vote because their ID books are sitting on their loan sharks desks...

      Hardtail - 2011-05-19 15:13

      In most democracies, a large proportion of the population fails to vote. once you have a right, gauranteed, why bother to use it? further, consider the weight that disillusionment means. Apathetic voters, who have given up on voting to change their lives, will not vote, what for?

  • Meagan - 2011-05-19 14:26

    I am proud to have voted and proudly south African, proud of my marked left thumb but does it really matter who wins. I think all that really matters is provision of basic services , it is inexcusable that some people are still living in absolute poverty. Housing, hospitals, education, jobs. Say it in any of our eleven official languages, they mean the same thing

  • Matt - 2011-05-19 14:26 why is your map so f'ing useless??!! Where are these figures coming from, while we can't see them for ourselves on your map???

      Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:38

      I agree Matt. The map was a fantastic idea but it's definitely not reliable.

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 14:55

      It is very annoying... best to use the IEC site, problem is I don't thing they planned for the extra load today so it's very slow...

  • Johan - 2011-05-19 14:27

    " But overall, the ANC had 1.8 million votes (61.99%) in Gauteng by noon on Thursday, with the DA on 950 801 (31.82%). The Congress of the People had 1.13% (33 854 votes). Gauteng's voter turnout seemed low, with only 1.3 million of the registered 5.5 million people casting their votes" Is it just me, or did someone else also wonder about this. 1.3 million people in Gauteng voted, but the ANC managed 1.8 million votes, the DA 950 801 and they are still counting???

      Black24 - 2011-05-19 14:33

      Tswane alone got over a million votes they say! up from around 850k in 2006. Suspicious indeed

      Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:56

      Hmmmm - is that a rat I smell?

      pd - 2011-05-19 14:59

      I also picked up on that one. LOL

      Hardtail - 2011-05-19 15:16

      Two ballot papers? making sense yet? each voter got two? anyone?

  • BigMoose - 2011-05-19 14:28

    The Dagga Party only got 200 votes? That's them up in smoke.

      Point Blank - 2011-05-19 14:35

      Puff puff pass..

      JohannV - 2011-05-19 14:35

      Go out with a bong!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-19 14:44

      Got blown sky high!

      Looter - 2011-05-19 14:52

      and what you booze it up?

      Jade - 2011-05-19 15:01

      Being a new party and given that the plant they identify with is highly (excuse the pun) controversial, it would naturally follow that they don't have many resources available to them especially compared to the large established parties. I'd go out on a limb guessing that their campaign was more to do with raising awareness and gaging opinions more than believing they could actually win any wards this time around. Only time will tell if they're still on the scene come the next local elections.

  • Fulufhelo - 2011-05-19 14:28

    thanks to the midvaal residents for voting foer a better organised party than this corrupt organisation midvaal people your free to engage yourself in protest against services delivry

  • Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:32

    DA : 2006 = 16%, 2011 = 22.67% - this is a 41.69% increase! ANC : 2006 = 64.8%, 2011 = 63.36% - this is a 0.022% decrease! To all those who haven't voted previously because they thought "what's the point" but voted yesterday, I believe this is due to you making the effort! Well done!

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 14:40

      Many ANC supporters did not vote, so an increase would only be in numbers and not %.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-19 14:44

      Your maths seems a tad off.

      Lucky Strike - 2011-05-19 14:49

      @Enuff: That is actually 2,22%. School-fees refund requested?

      Black24 - 2011-05-19 14:53

      The National percentage does not paint the true picture. The ANC lost ground in the urban areas. Their gains in KZN hides this fact. The (ANC)Zuma is cobbling up the Zulu vote and neglecting the rest. I suspect in elections to come the focus might turn away from black vs white as the people relise the whites means no harm. As the ANC needs a enemy, faction(ethnic) fighting similar to what we see in the mines may shows it ugly head soon.

      Enuff - 2011-05-19 14:58

      @Lucky Strike - oops, sorry. My point stands though ;-)

      Hardtail - 2011-05-19 15:18

      Black24 - you mean racial fighting as envisioned by malema, not faction or tribal...and yes, the anc, like the np of pw botha, needs a boogeyman and for the anc, that boogeyman is the white citizens of south africa.

      DW - 2011-05-19 15:24

      lilGhettoBoy, and why did those ANC voters not vote? Can you not see the problem? They fought for the right to vote and now dont vote. The ANC has convinced them that the DA is a "white" party who will bring apartheid back, so they are not going to vote for them. But they also didnt vote for the ANC. Speaks volumes, dont you think?

      chappy - 2011-05-19 18:28

      @ DW: Yup and if you look at the percentage won by the DA versus the population diversities, it becomes pretty clear that the majority of DA voters are not, in fact, white. But I wouldn't expect Julius to work this out, it is a number larger than can be counted on his fingers and toes..

  • David - 2011-05-19 14:38

    lets re-read this statement about Gauteng voters.......... But overall, the ANC had 1.8 million votes (61.99%) in Gauteng by noon on Thursday, with the DA on 950 801 (31.82%). The Congress of the People had 1.13% (33 854 votes). Gauteng's voter turnout seemed low, with only 1.3 million of the registered 5.5 million people casting their votes so 1.3 Million voted- of which 1.8 million went to the ANC alone? hmmm just saying........

      john.steyn - 2011-05-19 14:59

      SCAAAAARY - meetings with Mugabe payed off. "How to cheat - by Dummies" - R. Mugabe

      Cecile - 2011-05-19 15:06

      VERY INTERESTING ... I think we DO have to invest more in mathematical literacy after all ... !

      Colourblind - 2011-05-19 15:45

      People in metros get 2 ballots. People in rural areas 3. Each is counted individually in these tallies that are reported.

      Duke - 2011-05-19 18:46

      Think this is how they have been winning all along? Some stray votes coming their way from the ancestors?

      Siboniso - 2011-05-20 12:32

      gather facts before making unsubstantiated, baseless and unfounded remarks about stray votes and votes for ancestors.

  • Ed - 2011-05-19 14:39

    Damn...very sorry that the dagga party has so few supporters:)

      Looter - 2011-05-19 14:55

      what has DA, ANC or politics got to do with dagga?

      BigMoose - 2011-05-19 15:33

      There will be 200 voters who're going to get raided by the cops tonight.

      Oil painter - 2011-05-19 18:41

      The Dagga party sound like like a bunch of young hedonists. Ha ha! Maybe they should get organised and get a secretary. Lol why not? Anything that competes with an ANC vote. Peace man.

  • Chris - 2011-05-19 14:41

    Say what you want but Helem Zille is the most powerful female politician in the rest of the southern Africa and most powerful female white politician in the whole of africa. She is in fact the strongest ever DA leader I know. Tony Leon plus Joe Seremane plus you know who could not do this much. Malema is somewhere licking his wounds; this is not a time for feeble poloticians(sic) but serious politicians

      Stoutgat - 2011-05-19 14:47

      Clearly you have no clue who Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf is.

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 14:52

      It makes you wonder, isn't she DA, what if she is no longer there, would De Lille be The One. Is she the last great hype or will there another one be born.

  • sefeddt - 2011-05-19 14:42

    The claims that DA does not deliver puzzles me. Surely if an area is lost to another party and that party fails to deliver then it would make sense that it revert back to the original party. In all the areas that were taken from the ANC in the 2006 elections the DA has returned stronger.

  • kilo39 - 2011-05-19 14:43

    There will always be poor people....get used to it. The challenge for any Government is to ensure the environment and the conditions are conducive to the people working and supporting themselves. More creative ways of issueing handouts and robbing Peter to pay Paul is not the answer. Instead I suggest that if the masses are educated and empowered to make informed 'family' decisions and given access to the required logistics, that a sensible point of departure would be a vibrant and pro-active 'family planning' initiative being introduced by the state. 200 people for 100 jobs makes a helluva lot more sense than 2000 people for 100 jobs. The answer cannot be only to 'create more jobs', because to expect any measure of sustainability is illogical.

      Catarina - 2011-05-19 18:08

      That's from an economic point of view makes perfect sense, just don't know if our masses are already prepared for making "informed" family decisions. SA is a country where some people still believe in superstition - and they I'm afraid are the majority. In another hand, less labour force would be a shortcoming. The only way I see things to come to homeostasys would be a joined policy of education + economy development. We have the resources but we aren't competitive enough yet. Maybe it worked like that...

      Siboniso - 2011-05-20 12:37

      making subtle racial, baseless and unfounded remarks like "SA is a country where some people still believe in superstition - and they I'm afraid are the majority" is not helping anyone. what scientific research are such bold comments based on? white superstition? no, I did not think so, I think ignorance.

  • patrickb - 2011-05-19 14:43

    There was a DAGGA party???????? How the hell did I miss that. Were they electioneering with free samples?

      BigMoose - 2011-05-19 15:30

      Yes, a bankie and a packet of Rizla's.

  • Phiwe - 2011-05-19 14:47

    Just think, is the improvement because of negative sentiment to the ANC or as a result of her coalition because she platued in 2009? It's thinker, clearly the ANC support base hasnt budged at all since 2009 while the DA has improved. Thereofre you cant say the improvements are as a result of ANC dislike; DA gains are not reflective in ANC loses. Form more coalisions with other small parties Zille and maybe on day you will reach 30 % but at the expense of other parties who you will swallow up and attact their leaders with rpomise of high positions, liek you did with de Lille!

      Kevin - 2011-05-19 14:57

      Her improvement is because the anc is its own worst enenmy and the DA 's best friend. Keep on corrupting.

  • Harbinger - 2011-05-19 14:49

    Yeah! Well, although DA isn't the party that has exactly my pov's at heart I voted for them because I have seen what a DA controled city and municipality looks like. My local is ANC controled and its a joke , a real circus. I'm so glad people's eyes are starting to open and they vote right. As far as I am concerned the DA is the only genuine Democratic party with the concerns of every racial group at heart. They should have been in control from the start of '94. Im 100% we would have had a more peaceful last decade or two. I hope and pray they will take over in the next national.

  • freeboot - 2011-05-19 14:52

    Err... sorry for spoiling the fun, but what the results indicates is that the ANC kept (and slightly grew) its support, while the DA has swallowed smaller players (the ID and the bulk of Cope.) So the ANC's not been impaired. And the DA has one or two percent above the support that FW de Klerk's National Party had in 1994. So the opposition deck chairs have been shuffled, but it's biscuits as usual all 'round.

      Colourblind - 2011-05-19 15:51

      Not quite. Yes the deckchairs have been shifted, but they have been shifted into clusters now which will give the DA control of some municipalities. All they need is a beachhead - from there they can grow and expand and envelop surrounding areas. Look what has happened in the Western Cape - DA went from 4/30 to 25/30 because Cape Town was being run so well. It could potentially happen in every municipality that surrounds a DA municipality in future. Slow and steady - they will get there when previous ANC voters see what their neighbours are getting and they aren't.

      freeboot - 2011-05-19 18:13

      Well put, Colorblind. "slow and steady" indeed. Remember, it's been 17 years since De Klerk hit 20%. All your remarks are optimistic paeans for the future, which is great, but I was writing about what's just happened. Remember that with Zumalema the ANC is about as bad as it gets. Also Zille is a remarkably strong leader, infusing much discipline and coherent messaging into her party. So if, under those conditions, all the DA could do was eat opposition voters (stealing NO SUPPORT from the all powerful though deeply mired ANC) this doesn't bode well for their future. My prediction is that the DA will cruise along like the Lib Dems, waiting for a coalition moment. Oneday. In our lifetimes. God willing.

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 14:52

    Dadadada, ill tell this all corrupt politicians have been taken to court and some found guilty and sent to jail. However, the likes of J ARTHUR BROWN rome free, what do you say to that?

      Cecile - 2011-05-19 15:21

      @ Mpho, J ARTHUR BROWN wasn't a politician, pretending to canvas for the 'good' of the people - he was a fraudulent businessman. Also - people like Dr (heaven knows of what) Gwen Ramakgopa, ex Mayor of Tshwane, who got a bad audit by the Auditor General, and was NEVER investigated, gets rewarded for her questionable running of Tshwane by ... wait for it ... being placed in an esteemed position in the Department of Health! Now that's a REAL rap on the knuckles by the powers that be!!! That's the trouble with the corrupt politicians and public officials in this country - they never get fired, they go on 'long leave' on full pay while it takes months (or years) to get investigated, and they get PROMOTED for doing bad stuff!!! Go figure.

  • mikedek - 2011-05-19 14:53

    Exceptional things have happened within the Western Cape.The map has gone blue.A small area like Bitou (Plettenberg Bay) has shifted to DA after 17 years and the best of it all is that the appointed mayor was supposed to have been the previous mayor of the town, but as he would not support the in fighting and corruption he was expelled. It is going to be great to see how an ex powerfull ANC member can do his work with the necessary support around him. Go for it!!

      pd - 2011-05-19 15:04

      LOL. Just watch the property prices in Plet sky rocketing now.

  • Tits McGee - 2011-05-19 14:54

    Dagga party??? How did I miss that? ha haha haha

      Jade - 2011-05-19 15:07

      They were only on the ballot in one municipality i.e. Langeberg

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 14:58

    Darkwing Duck, that is were you are wrong. i remember once upon a time we use to have leader like Joe slovo. a man who knew the ANC and the aficanism, unlike most people now who claims to understand our plight. any ways i think you are a bit unfair to try to make out white people victims, i mean you've enjoyed a lot things and still are. dont worry i wont hold that against you, but try to see it from our pespective majority of us have nothing, no education, no wealth but one thing we have is this movement that has taken us out of egypt.

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 15:06

      I see your argument and the first two elections it was true but since we started moving backwards. There are just so many top level officials cashing and same goes for BEE. One man companies getting tenders then trimming off the fat to the bone and handing the work over to cheap contractors that never finish the job or do a horrendous job of it. The ANC today is not the ANC of back then and I fear the day they name Malema president! Don't you?

      DW - 2011-05-19 15:28

      Mpho, they took you out of egypt into the wilderness. You have still not reached the promised land. You will wander in it for 40 years

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-19 18:04

      Mpho,our brother,many of us understand your plight. If only you can see that the movement did not take you out of Egypt. What they did they did only for themselves. Bugger you, bugger me, bugger South Africa. If you want to join a movement towards freedom, I suggest you forget about the ANC and join the DA, for now. Talk to them. Find out what they are about. See what they do. Criticise them openly,without fear. Show them what you want. Demand results. Don't take false promises. I guarantee this taxi will get you out of Egypt much quicker, and much safer.

  • conoseur - 2011-05-19 15:01

    Looking at the national percentages does it look like the ANC has not lost many votes. They played the race card during these elections while the DA looked at service delivery. What it shows is that people had voted not because they think the ANC will live up to their promises but rather voted on emotion. SA will further sink down the abiss and wont stop even in 2014. UNLESS the DA can convert those traditionalist voters the ANC will not even have to worry about a "strong" opposition

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:03

    clark, dont patronise us. Ill tell you this i have never applied for any tender project nor searved as cadar, but i got a bursary to go to university which was meant for only whites and i got myself an education. Hence today i also can say a drive a nice car and leave in a cice house. I bet what ever you have you great grand father left for you right?

      DW - 2011-05-19 15:38

      Mpho, well done. You are one of the few who has actually benefited. However you now live in a nice house and drive a nice car. What about the millions who still live in shacks and who get promised free passes to heaven and keeping the ancestors happy to get a vote. The ANC cannot even make decent promises of service delivery any more. The whole campaign was to show how the DA is a "white" party who will bring back apartheid - lies every single one. Do yourself a favour. Check out the DA policies and compare them to the ANC (and dont believe the propaganda - check it out for yourself) You will see that the DA wants the best for people like you too. The ANC no longer deserves the people's votes. They may have deserved it in 1994 and even 2000, but they have blown it big time. The reason you have voted for them is because you are better off. What about those who are not? Do you not care about them?

  • PO_zn - 2011-05-19 15:04

    Hmmmmm sad to have experienced the underhand and illegal activities during yesterdays elections by the ANC. Im a DA councillor and it was actually amusing and heartsore to have witnessed the way the ANC were canvassing at the polls yesterday within the IEC boundries. In my ward unofficially the ANC won hands down due to numerous reasons, but cummon why would the ANC use illegal tactics to win the election, well 1 answer only. Scared of the opposition which is the DA and is growing rapidly..... Its a pity the majority of the people still believe the "promises of the ANC" sooner or later the younger generation and the educated will smell the coffee and realise how bad the ANC really is. I was and still thankfull to the ANC for granting us democracy but now there needs to be change, new blood needed to move forward. I congratulate the ANC on winning my ward in which i contested, and my challange to you the ANC is to deliver those houses and infrastructure that you have promised the people over the last 3 to 4 days and up till the election day as well as all the other promises u the ANC had made to the masses............. Heres to a better SA....... prove me wrong ANC let us see how ull DELIVER, cause remember the DA we not far behinde and WE DELIVER FOR ALLL!!!!!!!! p.s im not a white......... The DA will only grow and eventually be the no1 party unless ( dread i say this ) the ANC deliver which we all no is a load of crap!!!!!!!

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:06

    GT, No one was chased, they all chose own their own accored to leave. remember non of us are called to rule for ever, thus ever zuma knows his time is comming too

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 15:15

      But I fear the time of Malema is coming...

  • White Oak - 2011-05-19 15:08

    DA and ANC...birds of a feather. The former is just managed better. In terms of policy they are really 99% the same.

      Black24 - 2011-05-19 15:36

      You are really saying nothing. Almost all the main parties policies and goals are the same. This is not only what attracts voters, but in most cases are the right way forward to insure success...I mean I don't believe the ANC is blatantly evil or depriving the people intentionally. They lost control due to bad management especially accountability. At this stage the smart people will settle just for that...choosing the best managed party. IMO We can debate smaller issues/differences as soon as this democracy is really healthy.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-19 15:59

      Actually their not. The ANC is all about shooting yourself in the foot. The DA is all about efficiency. Just look at the contradictions in the way they have been running the country. Wanting growth but then artificially inflating petrol prices. Wanting to fight corruption but then not willing to make the hard choices and take responsibility. The ANC seriously need someone like Trevor Manual to lead them. Someone with a head for business and organizational powers. They struggle for accountability because their structures are lacking. The day they can get that sorted out is the day they will win the Western Cape.

      Andrew - 2011-05-19 18:11

      @white oak.....I fully agree. The toilets of the DA and ANC are unenclosed...same, same!!

  • SP - 2011-05-19 15:10

    DA , You got a double vote from me . Keep up the good work. You're all that stands between true democracy and the filth in the ANC

  • Ingie - 2011-05-19 15:11

    well hopefully all these people that voted ANC NEVER COMPLAIN AGAIN AND I MEAN NEVER. Watch this space by next month there will be toy toying, strikes, protesting why because ANC was supposed to be delivering...delivering what NOTHING

  • mitruth - 2011-05-19 15:14

    Hellen Zille and her DA have not convinced us blacks that she is worthy of our vote. She could not fool the majority of us. She must come up with another stragedy if she wants to be president.

      Ingie - 2011-05-19 15:16


      Cecile - 2011-05-19 15:31

      Oh I see ... if she'd lied you might have believed her???!!!

      Colourblind - 2011-05-19 16:43

      And that is the DA's biggest shortcoming. In time this will change. When people get tired of having to go to neighbouring municipalities to get basic services. It's already happening in the Western Cape, Northern Cape and border areas of the Eastern Cape.

  • muntu.hlatshwayo - 2011-05-19 15:14

    This is true democracy...some loose, some gain , some wins & some are welcomed novice. This is a big warning to my party, ANC to allign the ideas and how to execute them in accordance. I am actually happy there's a bit of wrestling so that the can be clear visible change for all people in this country. The ones that don't deliver will be fired and accountable. This is interesting and I know now that the DA wants to rule S.A. Just that It will take a while for them to rule the whole country. Only when there's more evidence about the improvement of the lives of the masses. Wisdom is that i accespt my faults and will rectify them. Viva ANC, Viva S.A!

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:18

    Wayne12, maybe that is the picture you are seeing, but i think this country is doing better than ever, casing point is FIFA WORLD CUP. any ways to answer some of your questions. Firty, i think the blame should squarly be pointed at NP, i mean wasnt them who intruduced an economic structure that benefited a few? secondly, BEE was a good initiative and still is, but the problem is its not being implemented enought a lot of white companies a resisting it.Thirdly, you talk about people interest, but tell me do you know were your house mate(my mom)stays, i guess its not your problem? ill tell you she has to travel 60km to come and clean your house and thanks to the ANC when she wakes up at 4AM to prepare for work at least whe will get in a hot bath, thanks to ANC it has provided free electricty.lasly are you saying RDP was a floop, ok i dont know were you come from but tell me what was ANC suppose to do with the locations your apartied government created?

      Wayne12 - 2011-05-19 19:21

      @Mpho 1. I paid to have my maid build a house in Taung because she isn't just an employee. And I contribute to the welfare ofvher grandchildren when her daughters husband doesn't pay maintenance. 2. Do you really believe that the NP caused our current govt officials to become corrupt? Really! 3. You can build an RDP house in a few days. The ANC has delivered nothing in 14 YEARS. RDP IS A FLOP BECAUSE OF NON DELIVERY. It has nothing to do with old township areas. There is land available eg Cosmo City. 4. BEE resulted in token appointments, not skills transfer so many black token appointees are out of their depth causing local govt to the brink of bankruptcy. It's ok dude keep feeding the ANC. If you happy that they blow millions on big houses, Mercs, overseas holidays and parties, give jobs to their mates then you are blinded by reality. The ANC served a purpose, it liberated the country but it's become a corrupt mess. Open your eyes, you could have so much more!

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:22

    ardeola7, id be careful i dont think its wise to speak for the old guy as on may countless occassion he has shown his approval with the current leadership.

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:27

    Kevin, i think its a question of trust, i mean just like you are scared to be ruled by a black man the same goes for us. so if you join DA it will be a win win for you.

  • Bosj - 2011-05-19 15:27

    Dadadada..da..dada..dada...dada...dada.. I was gonna vote for dagga party, but i got HI. I was gonna make my cross bigger,,but I was HI. Now i am a biggest looser and I know why. cause I got HI cause I got HIIIIIIIIIII........

  • Mpho - 2011-05-19 15:36

    Harbinger, black people are always on the receiving end of hate speeches, lately it came from your idol Steave Hofmeyer. even now i am getting that sentiment from you "The reason people dont have their busninesses in the location is beacause no one wants to be robbed on a weekly basis" i think this is racist, why do you assume this will happen to you. Ok what will be your reaction if i said i wont vote for DA cause i am afraid of the return of Apartied?

  • PO_zn - 2011-05-19 15:37

    Mr Mpho fancy a bit of stats about the ANC expenditure: Please do research before u make statments!!!! 1. Advertising - wasteful marketing, e-marketing and self-congratulatory advertising - R19 570 000 2. Hotelgate - unnecessary property rentals, hotel stays and property renovations - R166 975 000 3. Cargate - wasteful expenditure on luxury vehicles for politicians - R69 735 000 4. Partygate - wasteful expenditure on parties, conferences and other events - R160 870 000 5. Ticketgate - wasteful expenditure on tickets to sports events and other entertainment - R196 975 000 6. Audited waste - items of wasteful expenditure appearing in financial audits - R351 300 000 7. Other waste – such as Cuban debt-forgiveness and money to Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe – R2 863 385 000 Total: R3 828 810 000 This R3.8 billion, which was uselessly frittered away, could have paid for: • 70,903 RDP houses (at R54,000 each) • 22,522 teacher’s salaries for one year (at R170,000 per annum) • 382 new rural clinics (at R10 million each) • 95 new schools (at R40 million each) • 7 new 280-bed hospitals (at R500 million each) Recent items added to the monitor include: • R30 million on housing refurbishments for President Zuma’s various residences • R83 million in various state sponsorships of the National Youth Development Agency’s ‘Anti-Imperialism’ Conference • R1 billion in debt relief for Cuba • Over R700 million in unexplained aid to Zimbabwe and Guinea Conakry • Almost R200 million on World Cup tickets for various national government departments and entities

      Chris - 2011-05-19 15:56

      the promised land..

      Colourblind - 2011-05-19 16:41

      Every Rand counts!

  • inx - 2011-05-19 15:50

    "But overall, the ANC had 1.8 million votes (61.99%) in Gauteng by noon on Thursday, with the DA on 950 801 (31.82%). The Congress of the People had 1.13% (33 854 votes). Gauteng's voter turnout seemed low, with only 1.3 million of the registered 5.5 million people casting their votes." If only 1.3 million people voted in Gauteng ... how did the ANC get to 1.8 million votes?

  • Chris - 2011-05-19 15:54

    so much more easy to have 2 parties...DA & ANC..

  • SoujahBoy - 2011-05-19 15:59

    well i dont need white people as far as i'm concerned they can give DA all their votes but still will never rule this country ever again. we might leave in the same neighbourhood but we are not chomies, they are white and have enjoyed all the goodies under their now defunkct nationalist govt and never did or said anything to condemn the cruel apartheid govt which was led by whites, i dont car if the ANC is corrupt we will change those that are undermining the poorest of the poor and jail them if it means that. but to give white a chance to rule never, they had it and what did they do why do we still have lots or unemployement? its not ANC's doing no no not at all-blame it on the white people,why do we have shacks in the so call BEST RUN MUNICIPALITY IN THE COUNTRY(CAPE TOWN)its not ANC blame it on the white people. MPHO i feel for you my sista but know this, these whites will never change so my suggestion is that they must keep to their side and i will keep to my but for the country we will run/rule till JESUS COME if he will ever comeback.

      Skiballas - 2011-05-19 17:07

      The second coming is closer than ever... :-) You my mate, are however a self confessed racist. That makes you no different to the old National Party or the AWB.

      Kitsune - 2011-05-20 08:56

      You get the gothermnt you deserve and will nether get ahead thanks to people like you. You know you fail at logic dont you, you cant even connect the simple dots.

  • B.Soldier - 2011-05-19 16:33

    @SoujahBoy "we are not chomies, and they are white" - If we are to live together as a mulit-racial and multi-cultural nation then, we need to be friends or at least co-exist with those of different race. A statement such as yours is what is stopping the New South Africa from moving forward, because many cannot get past the race issue. Apartheid happened, it was bad, but let's move on and leave the race issue once and for all. "now defunckt nationalist govt" - I'm sorry, but it is now defunckt because of the ruling party. Also, not all white people were supporting apartheid back then. There were some that were against. "but to give white a chance to rule never" - Many ANC supporters still vote ANC because it is predominantly black and not white. They will do this even when they know ANC won't do anything for them and consequently let the future worsen. You are sacrifing a good future just because you are afraid of having the nation run by someone who is not black. Your comment on DA and the shacks is quite cowardice. At least the DA is working on it. The ANC just keeps messing things up. They have a much linger record of wrongs than the DA has. And it shows, because you were only able to pick out one thing which in fact the DA continues to work at. "these whites will never change" - This statement is just racist if you ask me. I believe in Nelson Mandela and his dream. ANC have lost their way but I still believe in a black man's dream.

  • Marius - 2011-05-19 16:33

    GO DA

      Ricksi - 2011-05-19 18:01

      News24 went silent and way behind with their that a good sign?

  • World Traveler - 2011-05-19 16:43

    The Ghost Busters voted DA!

  • mshini wam - 2011-05-19 16:47

    We cant be fooled by whites, there is no way we can surrender the government under white people again. Apartheid has taught us lesson that we wont forget. ANC will rule the country till Jesus come

      B.Soldier - 2011-05-19 16:57

      @ Mshini wam. Apartheid has taught us that we cannot have race-inequality. Just because Apartheid happened, doesn't mean it will happen again if the ANC is not the ruling party. Not all white people were for Apartheid, there were some that were against. You have not learnt anything, if that's all you have learnt. All you are saying is that change is not possible, but it is. If it's possible for change to come about in the form of democracy then it's possible for people to change, don't you think. You are working against what Mandela fought hard for, shame on you. Hillbrow used to be a rich area and under the ANC's rule it is now a rotting wound. Sahme on you. Go watch Invictus. read up on History.

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-19 19:39

      Looks like the old NP taught you well, eh, mshini wam? Put the black one here, put the white one there-one is better than the other. Not so? mshini wam doesn't have to see and think for himself. ANC thinks for mshini wam now. Good boy. Black. White.

      Cire - 2011-05-20 12:51

      @mshini wam. How nice to see that the views of the NP live on in the new democratic state

  • Skilpop - 2011-05-19 17:15

    I sent an email to the DA from London yesterday wishing them luck and got a personal response this morning! How cool is that! Well done DA, you might just get me to move back home xxx

  • Kitsune - 2011-05-20 08:25

    Im truely offended by this news site calling a national party nammes such as Dagga Party. Clearly this shows that the site is not nutral in the news it gives

  • Kitsune - 2011-05-20 08:26

    Im truely offended by this news site calling a national party nammes such as Dagga Party. Clearly this shows that the site is not nutral in the news it gives

  • lynch - 2011-05-20 08:52