1 held for shooting suspected car thief

2012-10-08 13:14

Johannesburg - A man has been charged with attempted murder after he shot an alleged car thief at his home in Tswelelitye Location near Dutywa, Eastern Cape police said on Monday.

"It is alleged that the owner of the motor vehicle woke up in the early hours of Sunday morning and saw two people trying to steal his car," said spokesperson Captain Jackson Manatha of the Butterworth Police.

"One suspected car thief was shot and wounded while the other person ran away."

The 18-year-old wounded man was under police guard at Butterworth hospital. He would be charged with attempted motor vehicle theft once he was discharged from the hospital.

  • rohin.jadin - 2012-10-08 13:27

    try harder next time dude. All out anarchy. Good luck with your charges. when you get released sue the police department.

      Steven - 2012-10-08 13:51

      When my Dad bought his gun way back in Zim (yeah that's where im from), cops told him that if thieves were to ever come to try rob us, shoot four times, twice at the robbers then twice in the air. That way, no way anyone can tell which ones were fired first, besides, no one will care if you actually get he buggers in any case. Feel for this man though, the South African criminal justice system is just a sad joke. Bringing the American style of innocent till guilty doesn't work in this country. Guilty till proven guilty (the old fashioned Zim way), is the only way here.

      Blackpoison - 2012-10-08 14:22

      @sean...just shoot to kill. Bodies can't testify about how they were subject to injustices and how hard life is in order to justify their actions.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-08 14:25

      Nothing untoward in this at all. In most cases a charge of murder would be opened and charges dropped later if necessary. A short story: I attended to a break in at a bottle store and met the dof squad on site. The cops opened the doors and let in two German Shepperds and closed the door behind them. When I asked why only the dogs went in the cop replied that "you can't take a dog to court". The blood curdling screams that soon emanated from within the store were satisfying to hear to say the least.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-08 14:48

      Dof squad should read Dog squad. Although sometimes I wonder if SAPS don't really have a Dof squad.

      piet.snot.77964 - 2012-10-08 17:26

      The point here is that the chances of being killed or severely injured when one confronts a robber/thief are extremely high - the stories we hear of and read of shows this to be a fact - there are just too many victims these days. It is therefore expected that the perpetrators will be armed is some way knives and or guns etc. The SAPS never release statistics to disprove our fears so we have to go on what we hear from reliable sources . So what does one do to protect one's property or life? Recently I shouted at night at someone breaking into a car parked near my home - he just showed me the 'gun sign' - if it had been my vehicle I probably would have done what this victim did - I would have expected the thief to be armed .

  • bloulig.brigadeer.3 - 2012-10-08 13:27

    Well now... Is this a surprise? Criminals have more rights than me and you do... Why did he shoot at them in first place? Trigger happy maybe? He should have just fired a warning shot into the air. I hope he gets off of this case lightly...

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-10-08 13:36

      Really, fire a warning shot and then get shot..naaah id rather shoot first before being shot...

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-08 13:40

      @bloulig, maybe that was the warning shot gone astray.

      bloulig.brigadeer.3 - 2012-10-08 13:57

      @ bradley.kecskes - Yeah and then you also end up in prison dude. Not worth it these days!!!

      bloulig.brigadeer.3 - 2012-10-08 13:58

      @ andrez.kolesky - LOL!!! Then he must be one terrible shot!!

      CODELESS - 2012-10-08 14:36

      warning shots must be shot into the ground, what goes up must come down ! what if the cops ask you to see where the warning shot was fired ??????? a warning shot into the air will get you charged with reckless firearm handling . get it right people !

      phahla.matwa - 2012-10-08 14:57

      Criminals dnt fire warning shots. They shoot 2 kill.

  • beverly.young3 - 2012-10-08 13:28

    Amazing, the woman on the South Coast shoots and kills a person who threatens her in her home, and this guy gets arested ? eish....

      jim.dickson2 - 2012-10-08 13:34

      Difference being the province? KZN vs Eastern Cape? Hope this person can prove he felt his life was threatend and not just his property.....

      abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-10-08 13:43

      No the difference is that the womens life was in danger , were as having your car stolen while you sleep doesn't really put your life in danger. Realistically a warning shot would have probably frightened them off, if they shot back then yes defend yourself but you cannot try to kill someone and claim self defence if you are not in danger .

      carol.brand.5030 - 2012-10-08 13:55

      The car owner was charged with attempted murder. he was not arrested. Eish! READ THE F**&^ING screen!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-08 14:07

      1 held for shooting suspected car thief. This tells me the car owner was arrested. (held)

  • lionel.holder - 2012-10-08 13:30


  • abiel.lesikara - 2012-10-08 13:30

    I dont understand what the hel this man should have done.let the criminals steel your car and when you protect your stuff you get caught.for what?

      msophiasharp - 2012-10-08 14:49

      For suppressing the youth and his criminal skills maybe!! LOL

  • hotazhel - 2012-10-08 13:30


  • mehluleli.majajini - 2012-10-08 13:36

    If I find someone interfering with my property in this dirty RSA, I ll put them in a black rubbish bag, finish and klaar. Cant wait for courts that will stop prosecuting criminals and turn to prosecute me for protecting my family and property. I am gonna be both the prosecutor and Judge with this criminals. My justice takes only a second for the trigger and then less than 30 mins for hiding the animals in a thick, thorny bush

  • teresa.villarini - 2012-10-08 13:40

    Wtf !!!! A disgusting thief is being treated in a private hospital on our tax money! And when he goes to prison our tax money pays for that too! Now this poor guy that was trying to protect his personal property that he worked to get is the bad one ? Holy crap what is happening in this country!

      Antipoaching - 2012-10-08 13:49

      Look on the bright side Theresa, he's in a hospital in a decrepit rural Eastern Cape dorpie.... chances are he'll be dead in a day or so

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-10-08 13:42

    Welcome to South Africa, where cops are arrested and charged for doing their jobs and criminals are free to roam..

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-10-08 13:43

    Disgusting. He knows the police would not bother to do their job. If they wounded him in the process the police are idiots enough to still arrest him.

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-10-08 13:44

    Utter BS !!! He should get a medal !!!

      carol.brand.5030 - 2012-10-08 13:56

      one thuggery thief down, some 44 million to go!

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-10-08 13:47

    Its about time the country goes on a mass strike until something is done about the police force and justice system. They need to bring back the death penalty for rapists, armed robbery and murder. 20 years for child abuse and animal cruelty.

      edward.d.beesley - 2012-10-08 14:14

      We could do that if everybody felt strongly enough about murder, crime, rape, etc. We'd probably have to have some kind of petition/demand that gets delivered to the govt/dept of justice letting them know that on such-and-such a date nobody is going to work and we shut everything down, airports, harbours, railways, industry, etc. peacefully by just not going to work, until the Death Penalty is reintroduced - and this should be done retrospectively so that all those convicted of murder with aggravated circumstances are immediately put to death.

      phahla.matwa - 2012-10-08 14:39

      They(criminals) hv mo ryts. The constitution protects them(criminals). They get free meals,education,place 2sleep,gym and the victims r left with a miserable live. The laws favours criminals

  • mshiniboys - 2012-10-08 13:48

    The car thief should be charged with trespassing and attempted murder because he would have killed the owner had they found him on his yard.

  • ron.warwick.79 - 2012-10-08 13:50

    And the police want the publics support? This guy is protecting his property, he took one criminal off the streets, one guy that might have killed a cop one day and you charge him. Give him a break, we need more like him!

      phahla.matwa - 2012-10-08 14:32

      Da court will ask him if his lyf was under any immediate threat. Law is complicated sum tyms.

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-08 14:00

    It sounds a little crazy, but this is what they have to do as step one. As the investigation proceeds, they will have to establish whether he needed to shoot, and that's where our current Law is IMHO completely wrong. If someone has unlawfully moved onto your property and is committing an offence, the owner/resident should have every right to shoot. Why? Not because that is considered normal recourse in Law, but because of the fact that our crime figures are unacceptably high and the chances of the resident/owner getting killed when confronting the suspects is probably about 95%. In other words, the Law should look subjectively at the SA crime situation and it's particular tendency for lethal violence, and then make changes to the Law so we can start protecting our property and family.

      John - 2012-10-08 14:52

      You as the lawful occupier are supposed to arrest the criminal. F the fact that he'll stick you with a knife, shoot you, hit you with a brick or bush knife, while his mate is ready to back him up. Don't you dare use a firearm to defend your property or yourself. The government's protected game can do as they please with impugnity!! When you get shot at then you can shoot back! OOPS too late, you're dead or seriously injured!!!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-08 15:21

      Precisely. So what sounds and reads 'legally' correct based on human rights, unfortunately has a massive negative impact on the victim because you have to either risk your life confronting the criminals, or just leave them be and let them steal your property. What a pathetic choice to have to make.

  • Ecosse.Nkosi - 2012-10-08 14:08

    A couple in England shot two burglars who they had caught in their home. They were arrested and questioned for suspected doing grievous bodily harm for 48 hours then told there would be no charges against them.

      sharron.forsyth - 2012-10-08 19:33

      There is also a case in England where a farmer shot his intruder and is still doing time for Murder. It seems that criminals have more rights worldwide :(

  • jon.harris.9421450 - 2012-10-08 14:14

    the problem with firing a warning shot to scare them away is that they then know you have a firearm and will be back within a week to steal it so that they can commit even worse crimes.....

  • patrick.makgeledise - 2012-10-08 14:16

    Arrested for protecting what is rightfully and lawfully yours? Who came up with that sick idea?Our country sucks big time.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-08 15:23

      A bunch of Human Rights Attorneys probably came up with this, and yes, it does suck big time. In these times where the violent crime figures are extraordinarily high, the Law makers should allow some 'presumptions' to be applicable when it comes to protecting your property and/or family.

  • phahla.matwa - 2012-10-08 14:46

    The RSA constitution protects criminals. In jail the criminals r provided wit free meals, free education,gym

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-10-08 15:48

    Should have killed the parasite. Justice is up the creek, how can they arrest the man for protecting his car for parasites like these. Should really have made the arrest worth while.

  • Bluemoscow - 2012-10-08 15:51

    Wow a man tries to defend his property from being stolen and he gets arrested. Just because he is black. If this was a white person the police wouldnt have arrested him but praised him, but just cause he is black he gets arrested and charged for attended murder. Ya its sucks to be black and living in south africa, screw the police and the justice system the judge will probably give him a life sentence for 'takin da law in his own hands ' but if he was white nothing would have happened

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-08 15:57

      Utter rubbish. In all these cases it is the normal procedure to charge the shooter. It has nothing to do with him being Black. Now what is your motive for coming onto this page and writing your racist rubbish? Either you're just a complete racist, or you're a complete ignorant, or both.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-10-08 15:55

    Again the victim is punished while the criminal is protected.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-10-08 15:56

    You are a ninkempoop

  • Michael - 2012-10-08 15:56

    Give him a bells! and a pardon!

  • joanita.hilton - 2012-10-09 08:48

    Charged with murder (the innocent one) vs Attempted car theft (the actual perpetrator)? How does murder come into it when the thief was tresspassing to begin with? Is it not protection of private property instead of murder? Even self defense carries a lesser possible sentence for the innocent party (which should NOT even be guilty of anything as he/she was not the tresspassing party)....but murder? GTFO public prosecutors

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