10111 call fail during Sanders shooting

2012-10-23 08:40

Johannesburg - A relative of Corrie Sanders called the police’s emergency number while shots that eventually led to the boxing legend’s death were fired in the Brits restaurant.

But the person who answered the 10111 call apparently said they couldn’t help because “we don’t deal with North West”, reported Beeld.

The call made by a sister-in-law of Sanders lasted for only 32 seconds, said his brother Mike.

Sanders was shot at the Thatch Haven Country Lodge outside Brits during an armed robbery on September 22.

He was attending the 21st birthday party of his nephew Michael when three men stormed in and demanded that customers lie on the floor and hand over their valuables.

When they fled the scene, random shots were fired. Sanders was hit in the hand and abdomen.

He died of his wounds in the Kalafong hospital the following day.

An AfriForum spokesperson said the organisation would lay an official complaint with the provincial commissioner and ask that the claim be investigated.

“Couldn’t they just have put the call through to the nearest police station?” asked Nantes Kelder, head of AfriForum’s investigation unit.

Case postponed

Meanwhile, the case of three men accused of murdering Sanders was postponed in the Brits Magistrate's Court, The Star reported on Tuesday.

Samuel Mabena, 27, Chris Moyo, 25, and Paida Fish, 19, would be back in court on November 13 to finalise legal representation.

The three face charges of murder and robbery with aggravating circumstances.

A group of residents from Oukasie, an informal settlement where the three Zimbabweans were arrested, came on Monday to support Sanders' family at court.

The late boxer's brother Mike said it was comforting to the family to see so much support.

"I have known many of these men for years, and some of them previously worked for me," he said.

  • charlesmakgale.radingoane - 2012-10-23 08:51

    South africa is failing us.

      piet.snot.77964 - 2012-10-23 09:13

      No Charles - we the voters are failing South Africa - if people keep voting for the rubbish that they have in power they should not complain and Charles I feel that you are NOT one of 'those voters'. Please try an convince all you meet to make sure that the vote the present government OUT.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-10-23 09:27

      Unfortunatelty Piet most of the voters can't read what you are saying, in any language for that matter. That is the problem.

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-10-23 09:42

      The rulling party is failing us and opposition parties are failing us by not giving us choices to choose from!!!!

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-10-23 09:56

      Have Nathi in for culpable homocide.

      ann.murray.9279 - 2012-10-23 11:07

      You get what you pay for ... (and also what you vote for)!!

  • Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-10-23 08:55

    Why do SAPS even bother providing this useless service. It doesn't work. I tried to use it once. The operator simply gave me the number of the nearest police station, which I had anyway. He insisted that I should phone the police station to report the emergency. Duh!

      clive.wannenburg - 2012-10-23 09:24

      We have to many incharge with no idea as they have never done duty but were given rank due to friends or being an ex comrade, while thousands who have twnety years or more sit on warrent officer level and get paid peanuts while our seniors get paid huge packets to make the wrong decissions which effect us all.

      rontheogre - 2012-10-23 10:15

      Cive, you mention the exact reasons I quit the Police after having written all my exams. Six years and many unsuccessful requests and top marks in assessments later with totally unqualified and inexperienced people passing me by, them becoming my superior in rank and me having to do their jobs for them as well as my own, I put 14 years of fingerprint experience behind me to become a businessman. Don't get me wrong, I like what I am doing now, but I loved working in the field of fingerprints as I was good at what I did.

  • nhlapop - 2012-10-23 09:00

    So many things has happened under the leadership of Zoomer and we cant take this anymore. If this system its not working then they need to build more police station near to our living areas. Rather than upgrading INKANDLA TO BE A NEW YORK OF SA.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-10-23 09:02

    10111 is a disgrace. Might as well sack all the staff and close up shop.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-10-23 09:28

      Anyone tried the 112 emergency cellphone number? Is that any good?

      willa.prinsloo - 2012-10-23 10:00

      No. I once used it to report an accident on the N4 in Pretoria, and my call was diverted to SAPS Hazyview.

      cobus.stals - 2012-10-23 10:02

      @greg, nope 112 no good either. Holding on too long with no answer,what good is that in an emergency. I ended up driving a lady who was thrown out of a car to safety myself...

      winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-23 13:09

      I thought this useless 10111 was a country wide call centre....its a joke and most times manned by an arrogant stupid person who does'nt careless. Just compare this call centre with the centres around the world the people working there are not properly trained, dont want to be trained and dont want to be bothered with your problems. This is the whole attitutde of those people who have taken over the jobs for the very people who were doing a very good job and service initially. They were put out to pasteur and these underserving lazy incompetant people were given the advantage. Now you get that die......the disadvantage is they might and I mean might just send one to help.

  • bruce.williams.1044186 - 2012-10-23 09:11

    Service delivery strikes should be held against these sorts of people. Surely this would not happen anywhere else.

      elizabeth.bothma.58 - 2012-10-23 09:41

      Yes Bruce, I agree, but the ANCYL is to busy creating chaos in Cape Town to worry about the other provinces!

  • nicolas.cocolas.1 - 2012-10-23 09:18

    Cry The Beloved Country. The Entire System is Failing us all Black, White, everyone....

  • TheSingingHorse - 2012-10-23 09:20

    It seems only two things work in SA .. Crime and corruption.Ok .. sometimes the robots.

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-23 09:21

    Absolutely pathetic, and even more pathetic is that nothing gets done about this. This 10111 joke has been going on for years now. Yes, we do indeed get what we vote for.

  • Sulette Behnke - 2012-10-23 09:22

    It's heartwarming to see communities supporting each other though, respect to the people of Oukasie

  • Sphiwe - 2012-10-23 09:26

    Wtf. He is death criminals are arrested,nws24 next chapter pls.

      summer.mackenzie.96 - 2012-10-23 09:34

      next chapter will be another death, more criminals caught ... statistically might even be you sphiwe..and yes Sulette I agree, its heartwarming

      ettiene.esterhuizen.7 - 2012-10-23 09:37

      you probably mean he is dead. Learn to write, spell and read.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 09:58

      Ja, Sphiwe, but the 10111 number still don't work. You missed the point. Tomorrow we read about another case because the number still don't work. Get it?

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 10:56

      Sphiwe Your mentality or lack there of sickens me. You are as thick as a brick if You cant see the merit in this story.

  • grant.joubert.1 - 2012-10-23 09:31

    They see it as a job that pays the bills, not a responsibility to protect the public. This sense if responsibility and discipline starts at home, teach your children South Africa and they will pass it onto their children, lets not become like the the rest of Africa!

  • tim.brink.1238 - 2012-10-23 09:34

    Sinking Ships.

  • melanie.gardner.7528 - 2012-10-23 09:37

    good god!!!!!! words can not describe how betrayed i feel by people that should be protecting us!! such a crying shame!

  • evidence.dumba - 2012-10-23 09:38

    We have in place a government that is leaderless, useless, directionless and greedy. Things are only going to get worse and worse because there is no accountability.

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-10-23 09:39

    F#ck the useless public services, i sincerely hope no-one is forced to rely on any of these 'services' ever...!

  • gregory.stojakovic - 2012-10-23 09:41

    well this is nothing new- we were in Bela Bela, we had a major issue with some people spiking drinks and threatening us so we phoned the police emergency number. Firstly they never answered the first 8 calls, they then told us there was nothing they could do. Typical SAPS "service"

  • gregory.stojakovic - 2012-10-23 09:41

    well this is nothing new- we were in Bela Bela, we had a major issue with some people spiking drinks and threatening us so we phoned the police emergency number. Firstly they never answered the first 8 calls, they then told us there was nothing they could do. Typical SAPS "service"

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-10-23 09:43

    Emergency call centres must really be jacked up and operators fluent in English, Afrikaans and at least one of the black languages. Precious seconds are lost when one has to repeat oneself. Kathy

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-10-24 08:59

      Y not all african languages, even swahili, shona, etc? Dude, we r the majority FFS. Learn english

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-10-23 09:46

    @greg.quinn - the 112 service is not that much better. You have to state the nearest police station, and if you are a stranger this is nigh impossible. You are then put through to that number and have to wait for the phone to be answered and then repeat yourself endlessly. Kathy

  • darryl.maze.5 - 2012-10-23 09:50

    Well what do you expect when you put a brainless unqualified person in that position??? These idiots that answer these calls cant even tell there left from there right. This country has gone to the dogs. Many more ppl will die because you have those types of brainless idiots on the other side of the phone.

  • cordiergreen - 2012-10-23 09:50

    Ons SAP is lag wekkend. Ons land word vir die voels gegooi, op wie kan ons staat maak net op ons self. Mense word wakker ons is wit dis hoekom ons so behandeling kry. Wat as dit Zuma was? Antwood dit vir julself.... God help ons mense...

  • wikus.schalkwyk - 2012-10-23 09:50

    Welcome to Africa! This is what is awaiting us. Big cheese on top reaping everything and us bottom feeders pecking on the remains of a disgruntled society.

  • andrew.arnesen - 2012-10-23 09:50

    This is appalling but not surprising. Police members should be rewarded with bonuses for convictions, and, concurrently punished for shirking their duty. Most South Africans have very little faith in the SAPS and this needs to change. Vote the clowns out and get decent, moral, hard-working people in.

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-10-23 09:56

    I suspect that most of these farm killings foreigners are involved

  • riaan.barnard.737 - 2012-10-23 10:01

    I wonder if my tax money is also province bound?

  • mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 10:03

    No westerner would carry placards against someone who killed a black person.what is wrong with my people.

      rontheogre - 2012-10-23 10:22

      Then you must teach your seeing eye dog better. Just in the past three months many white supporters with placards were seen on TV and in other news media amongst the regular black supporters at demonstrations held at courthouses and other venues where the death of a black person was protested. There are none as blind as those that do not wish to see.

      susan.deklerk.7 - 2012-10-23 10:33

      What is wrong with my people??? The accused are Zimbabweans invading my country, abusing opportunities, using electricity, trying to take my job,taking advantage of free health care and murdering fellow citizens. And you are asking what is wrong with my people?

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 11:06

      Mshini You deserve Your future. You ask what is wrong with Your people. What is wrong with You? Scaly Mother ------ I hope one day You and I can go mano e mano.

      mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 13:32

      sagging.virginity--- :) believe me when I say this very politely.You would not like to be locked up with me in one room for half a minute.To be frank just quit that talk in this platform because it reminds me of the reasons why I became self employed after I did something that I still regret to some guy who thought like you.

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 13:50

      Self employed? Is that how You got the stolen computer?

      mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 13:58

      sagging.virginity if there is something stolen here is your house that was taken away from my parents during forced removals and next time you think of apes you must check your colour and your hair you will know the similarities

  • thabo.mosehla - 2012-10-23 10:41

    Only if u guys know the strenuous circumstances the poor Agents are going through to protect our lives!!! Da least we cud do is try to make positive criticisms.

  • sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 11:02

    The average south african does not comprehend how bad our situation in south africa is. Most south africans live in a bubble, and only when an emergengy takes place do you realise how truely alone and completely F@$ked we are. If it was not for the private sector and the white south africans holding things together we would already be in state of anarchy. South africa is broken! not on its way down, we are there already.

  • mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 13:20

    so what

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 13:28

      You realy are just a dumb savage,arent You? Mshini You are a dead little boy, You just too thick to know it

      mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 13:45

      hey you---will you cut this rubbish.dont you have something better to do gay boy.

      sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 13:59

      You are a nothing and You know it. Thats what drives your racism and hatred. Mshini, do yourself a favour and stop spewing Your hatred here. You are a loser. You always have been. always will be

      mshiniboys - 2012-10-23 14:48

      I know exactly what you are trying to do are one of the loneliest animals on earth trying to find someone to talk to.Im not going to troll along with you just to keep your bored ass busy.I have work to do so you better find someone else you waste of space.

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-10-24 08:54

    Afriforum again... Think they are an opposition party ne

  • Melanie Banks - 2013-07-03 19:41

    Disgraceful! Well so many people get hired for all the wrong reasons and lack skills and proper training. Had this been a private company someone would have lost their job. The problem with government workers, they are arrogant,rude and feel that they are doing you a favour instead of doing what they are paid for, that is, their jobs.

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