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18 guns stolen from police station

2013-03-06 11:05

Johannesburg - Around 18 firearms have been stolen from a police station at KwaMhlanga in Mpumalanga, it was reported on Wednesday.

The weapons were mostly evidence pieces being kept under lock and key, Beeld reported.

The theft was discovered on Monday when the police's logistics division held an inspection at the station and found that more than 12 pistols, assorted revolvers and even an R-5 rifle had been taken from the evidence room.

Colonel Leonard Hlathi told the newspaper the theft was being investigated.

According to Beeld, there have been previous, similar thefts in the province.

In February 2010, during an internal audit at the former riot unit in Hazyview, the authorities discovered the theft of part of a large arsenal including at least 32 R-5 rifles, thirty 12-gauge shotguns, a number of Z88 pistols and 48 000 bullets.

In 2012, a trunk full of weapons linked to various crimes was stolen from the Mhluzi police station in Middelburg.

Comments
  • JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-06 11:08

    Collectors Items

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2013-03-06 11:26

      All I can do is laugh at the total incompitence of this country!

      Tim - 2013-03-06 11:29

      "A thief" like its some random person... its obviously a cop

      dlawre30 - 2013-03-06 12:00

      These weapons were stolen from the evidence area. Seems to me like an inside job.

      werner.nel.984786 - 2013-03-06 12:45

      Stolen! you mean "Sold" "For the best second hand guns in town. Go to your local Police station!"

      lacrimosewolf - 2013-03-06 12:47

      "South Africa is a democratic country with an effective crime prevention, safety and security programme that ensures the protection of all people in the country" Phumla Williams GCIS spokesperson quoted yesterday on N24. How safe are we supposed to feel when a) evidence of crimes is disappearing and b) weapons are now in unknown hands?

      Amatambo - 2013-03-06 16:26

      Not even GIVEN to cadres - more likely SOLD to cadres - starting price - around R2000 each, depending on the make?

      bullet.proof.9400 - 2013-03-06 17:24

      Don't they mean sold from the cop shop

      Jack - 2013-03-06 20:17

      Are the cops not supposed to be charged under the Firearms Act. I thought it was a criminal offense to leave arms unguarded?

  • Lele Radebe - 2013-03-06 11:15

    Wild Wild west..... It just never seems to stop, the police can't even guard their stations, so sad. Now we have too many guns on wrong hands. # trigger happy society we live in

      riad.mahomed - 2013-03-06 11:31

      Now this says a lot for how effective our police are against crime. Our Government should hang their head in shame since the police force can’t even protect themselves leave alone the people of Mzansi…

      Tony Baxter - 2013-03-06 13:41

      On 12 Sep’10 News-24 reporter Jacques Pauw wrote in “Almost 1 000 corrupt cops still working” despite these police officials having been convicted of fraud but all escaped being sacked because the public service commission (PSC) felt the impact of “firing huge numbers of people” would be too great. These are just some of the trash that infiltrate our police force and steal guns to sell. There is no punishment for crime in SA.

      Nunu - 2013-03-06 14:52

      Mzansi sounds like a sweet and freindly name for a country - its certainly way out of place as a name for our hate filled and corrupt country.

      Omnivore - 2013-03-06 15:41

      One thing is for certain: Nobody will be fired or even diciplined. ZERO accountability.

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-03-06 11:15

    Now tell me how do you just walk into a police station and take 18 or a truckload of guns without anyone knowing or seeing anything? Comrades arming comrades. Does anyone still think this happens by accident?

      Tony Baxter - 2013-03-06 13:14

      Please don't wake them up Koos, they're still sleeping off last night's liquor and immoral sex.

  • Silvia Van Eck - 2013-03-06 11:18

    Hmmm...maybe they should disarm the police. Most of them are too useless to look after their guns in any case!!

  • Piet Jakhals - 2013-03-06 11:20

    Going, going....SOLD To any bidder with folding money....

  • collet.letsoalo - 2013-03-06 11:24

    Our Police force is the weakest link in the fight against crime.

      Nunu - 2013-03-06 14:53

      Police in name only. Certainly no actions.

  • Hansie.Crook - 2013-03-06 11:26

    Worry not... They stole them for hunting or sports. Or they want to protect themselves from a government that fails to do so..

  • melckv - 2013-03-06 11:26

    Another claim against the Police when a crime took place with those weapons -

  • Legh Wilkinson - 2013-03-06 11:30

    Unbelievable!

      Tony Baxter - 2013-03-06 13:16

      Utter pig-swill. Even dogs wouldn't eat them if you made mince-meat of them.

      Nunu - 2013-03-06 14:54

      In the current SA - not unbelievable at all.

  • Tanya Booysen - 2013-03-06 11:30

    Rhino horns disappear and guns are stolen from police stations can you keep criminals locked up

      harley.quin.334 - 2013-03-06 11:35

      Are you serious Tanya? these guys can't even pull their pants up without instructions

  • Mis Poshm - 2013-03-06 11:33

    Theft at a police station how ironic.

  • Melvin Palmer - 2013-03-06 11:33

    Makes you wonder who the men in blue really are....

  • Phillip Joubert - 2013-03-06 11:34

    Now what we think the boere mag had n plan I think the criminals in the police force also have plans / to kill police with police weapons and cover up all the criminal acts as so do robberies but accutully it is HIGH TREASON to steal wapens from any goverment dept and used it in any act. I am going to check this outcome if there is going to be one. Sklem vang nie n ander skelm nie.

  • Badger - 2013-03-06 11:34

    Stolen or Sold ?????

      Norman Motlhabani - 2013-03-06 12:55

      All of the above.

  • Mphotant Thelejane - 2013-03-06 11:35

    Gross negligence, station commander should be held accountable, duty officer's have a lot to answer...how could they! Hawks should delve deeper into all probable complexities of this calculated planned nonsense.

  • ganon.nhubunga - 2013-03-06 11:35

    The problem is one, they never make public their investigation. How do you still from a safe in a Police Station where there is suppose to be people who deal with the issue of security, in some instances 24 hour security, in a safe, one or two people having an access, instead Police will go around dragging innocent taxi driver who happen to park facing oncoming vehicles. The study which indicated we at the Townships are more vulnerable to crime is true, the same guns are given or leased by Police to syndicates. It is not a secret. We have people who are not trained but had been with the police for years, they have Matric and driver's license, instead people who go for training are not known where they come from. Management is very easy if people who are supposed to be Managers really qualify to be ones. Unions, both Sapu and Popcru, can you take actions against your members instead of letting them cause havoc by doing crime while being employed as Safety Officers. We in rural areas are being arrested for drinking in public and urinating, but serious crime like household, rape and murder goes unpunished. Nobody is going to be arrested nor convicted for this serious crime. Those thugs in police uniform can be arrested in seconds if people are serious. I remember a policemen who jumped from 6th floor in Braamfontein when he was arrested by fellow police, he died. The lesson, crime does not pay if you are the Officer of the Law.

  • Jacky Malatji - 2013-03-06 11:36

    Those guns were not stolen by thieves from outside the station a person who is incharge of th storage must just come clean and tell whoever he sold them to bring them back simple as that!!!

      Tony Baxter - 2013-03-06 13:22

      15 or 20 training lashes with a shambok while tied to a bench, will have the storeman singing like a canary.

      Amatambo - 2013-03-06 16:32

      Bring them back? Jacky, you are naive to think that the wepons will be 'brought back...'

  • Mpumi Bokkie Khumalo - 2013-03-06 11:39

    really

  • Pete7930 - 2013-03-06 11:40

    Stolen?? More like handed out to staff.

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2013-03-06 16:46

      Early Easter gifts.

  • Gruntus Maximus - 2013-03-06 11:45

    I would dearly love to know the following. Of the guns recovered in crimes, how many are Z88 (police issue) pistols, firearms handed in for destruction, (easy to trace if the number is still on it), numbers filed off, blatant repeat crime gun. Of the ammo recovered, how much of it is 9mm ball ammo (police and military issue), SSG shotgun rounds police issue. The thing is, these weapons and ammo do not grow on trees, they require all sorts of hoops to be jumped through to legally purchase. So for the prospective gun owner, get a caliber that is not standard police issue. So basically, not 9mm or 12 guage. If you are getting a rifle, dont get a 5.56 or 7.62. That way, if your guns get stolen, they wont be able to use them for long.

  • Ken Amery - 2013-03-06 11:48

    What do you expect in this corrupt country

  • Stanley Mabunda - 2013-03-06 11:54

    rid the police of this thieves.am begining to believe what pistorius snr said.

  • Henk Venter - 2013-03-06 11:56

    so waar is die grootbekke wat skree dat die publiek ontwapen moet word as die kriminele hulle kollegas bewapen met vuurwapens wat hoofsaaklik aan die polisie behoort en verder met bewysstukke uit vorige rowe en moorde. dit bring te wee dat kriminele se sake uit die hof gegooi gaan word omrede bewysstukke weg is. so kriminele se getalle bly groei. hoe kan die polisie se botma daar uit die vuurwapen register kantore 'n bek opsit oor die publiek as sy eie kollegas kriminele met staats vuurwapens bewapen. heelwaarskynlik is daardie kollegas self betrokke in kriminele dade, MAAR hulle moet ons polisieer en seker maak die publiek se wapens is altyd veilig? en so gaan dit vir die weermag ook. hierdie is die tweede berig in een dag waar bewysstukke uit die polisie se besit gesteel word. dus deur die polisie gesteel word en waarskynlik verkoop is of in rowe en moorde gebruik word.

  • martin.grobler.144 - 2013-03-06 11:56

    And then they want to disarm legal owners of their weapons, but they can't look after their own!

  • anakin.skyvader.9 - 2013-03-06 11:57

    Where is Alex Perry now from the TIME magazine? Don't see him anywhere...wonder why?

  • mhla.nombembe - 2013-03-06 11:58

    They were stolen by police who could be implicated on muder charges in which those rifles were used in . . . . Criminals within SAPS

  • Liam R Lewis - 2013-03-06 12:02

    And we have to convince the police that us citizen's are fit to possess firearms... What a joke!!! The problem with this country is not the country at all- it is the governance and lack thereof!

  • Ellakita - 2013-03-06 12:02

    Can only be a cop.

  • Dzunisani Makhubele - 2013-03-06 12:06

    And we all know their where abouts

  • Robson Mupomhori - 2013-03-06 12:08

    kkkkkk

  • gladness - 2013-03-06 12:11

    INSIDE JOB INSIDE JOB

  • Martin Blignaut - 2013-03-06 12:15

    En so voorsien die klomp korupte ANC komuniste wapens aan hulle geliewe vriende om misdade te pleeg.daar is nou maar 1 maal geen dissipline in di weermag en SAP ni hulle voel boggerol maak my hoogs de Blik.... In

  • Rameetse Benjamin Mokgoatjana - 2013-03-06 12:16

    A woman raped in a cell by police, a detainee killed in a cell by police,guns stolen from police station, police kills protesters. A symptom of a police force totten to the core.

  • Lulu Rudo Shezi - 2013-03-06 12:22

    there was no theft here.theft indicates that things were stolen without anybody's knowledge.but its obviously an inside job,thats why criminals are always found with cop guns.some greedy scum cop accepted a bribe for this.find that guy and arrest him

  • ian.price.3576 - 2013-03-06 12:25

    Precious lives will be lost.

  • Simphiwe Spijo Nxumalo - 2013-03-06 12:27

    how many rifles were stolen in the army by the former apartheid soldiers and no one has said anything abt that how many R4 rifles were stolen in the units in the army by RSMs and SGT mjrs during intergration but it was a cover up..so this is not a new thing hope they will recover these weapons

      NicolasGombert - 2013-03-06 12:32

      You have proof of this? Crime Line's SMS number is 32211, but I doubt whether you will contact them.

      Patrick Motaung - 2013-03-06 12:44

      This is the current situation we are talking about here. Apartheid has nothing to do with it nor the previous army or have you benefited from it (theft) as well!!!

      Erna - 2013-03-06 13:03

      Come on, apartheid ended more than twenty years ago. We're talking about now, and the future. And if it did happen during apartheid, it was also wrong. And they'll find the weapons when they have been used in the next cash in transit robbery.

      Mark Singh Singh - 2013-03-06 13:27

      It does not amaze me when a Black dude like simphiwe sits behind his computer and fully supports this kind of crime by his government and then pulls out the race card. get over it, apartheid finished a long time ago. its just your thats stuck there.

      terrence.schwartz.1 - 2013-03-06 19:18

      Do you have evidence, if so, provide to the authorities, or remain silent. There is an afrikaans expression, "die wat beweer, moet bewys" ie., he alleges must prove.

  • paulo.teixeira.39948 - 2013-03-06 12:28

    anyone fired?

  • Euna Penzo Shongwe - 2013-03-06 12:30

    Inside job, firstly it was Daveyton saga, Kwa-Mhlanga > Guns, Brits > Ring horns . What is wrong... mxm !!!

  • Sizwe Zulu - 2013-03-06 12:33

    Stolen!! By who?

      ansie.fourie.940 - 2013-03-06 12:34

      Your brothers.

  • ansie.fourie.940 - 2013-03-06 12:34

    Thank You Henk Pistorius!!!!

  • RollingPixels CreativeAgency - 2013-03-06 12:35

    There goes the evidence.

  • Erich Goosen - 2013-03-06 12:35

    First rhino horns and now guns. Are they planning to open shop somewhere.

  • nawhal.majietarmien - 2013-03-06 12:38

    al weer , this is getting so boring and we know nothing is being done about it , Mr Mandela cry for your beloved country, I watched when you debated about this country turning in a Banana Republic, the ANC didn't even wait until u closed your eyes, they're achieving it while u are still here to see it, you must be so disappointed on wasting that 27yrs

  • sue.viljoen.7 - 2013-03-06 12:39

    This calls for the Minister of Police to be PROMOTED to Deputy President...

  • nawhal.majietarmien - 2013-03-06 12:40

    i just closed the article about the rhino horns and then this, has the police minister no shame?

  • T-bos Man - 2013-03-06 12:41

    Inside job, thorough investigation will reveal that . So we most likely to have 200 people shot by those guns in the next 24 months. The station commander must also be shown the exit door

  • Dazza22 - 2013-03-06 12:41

    "Around"????? No record keeping there then!!

  • muke.matshaba - 2013-03-06 12:44

    Haai man whats happening in this country ey?

      Mark Singh Singh - 2013-03-06 13:30

      stephan, you getting boring with that racist comment of yours. Muke asked a very naive question, no need for you to respond with your very generalised opinion about Blacks and who they vote for. Not all Blacks vote for the ANC

  • Rohin - 2013-03-06 12:48

    FFS

  • Norman Motlhabani - 2013-03-06 12:51

    Surprised? No is the answer.