1time jet has engine problems - again

2012-08-20 23:00

Johannesburg - A 1Time aircraft forced to do an emergency landing earlier this month after an engine failed, experienced engine difficulties again on Monday, the airline said.

The difficulties were encountered as flight T6 647 from Cape Town started its descent into Durban.

"During cruising altitude of 35 000 feet, cockpit indicators revealed that the left-hand engine had experienced technical problems," it said in a statement.

Airline spokesperson Refilwe Masemola later said the aircraft was the same one that had to make an emergency landing at Durban's King Shaka International Airport on 5 August after its left-engine failed.

"This is the same aircraft, but this time it is a different engine. Everything was checked out. This was an unforeseen problem," she said.

The aircraft was able to safely operate on its other engine and no one was injured.

The SA Civil Aviation Authority (SACAA) could not be reached for comment.

Last time, the plane was going to Cape Town, when it had to turn back minutes after take off.

The runway at the airport was closed for the emergency landing.

At the time, SACAA spokesperson Phindiwe Gwebu said debris had fallen out of the left engine.

  • incrediblesolv - 2012-08-20 23:08

    sounds like a bird strike

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-21 05:39

      Sounds like a sick "bird". Won't fly them...

      faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-08-21 06:48

      You only die 1Time

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-21 07:00

      What bird flies at 35000 ft???

      paddy.carolan.35 - 2012-08-21 07:02

      And what type of bird do you expect to find at 35000 feet?

      thadelphukem.completely - 2012-08-21 07:09

      A bird strike at 35 000 feet... Ja, right... I can see thinking and logic are NOT your strong points!!!

      mike.wolf.125 - 2012-08-21 07:22

      no more to fly 1time - i need to fly 2time

      julian.booyens - 2012-08-21 07:31

      Angry Birds...

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-21 07:50

      Julian, leave the stewardesses out of this...

      UNITY - 2012-08-21 07:55

      Please Ground these planes before lives are lost and our countried safety record gets tarnished!!!

      michael.barns.1 - 2012-08-21 12:29

      for those, "thumb ups" who think a bird cannot fly at 35000', Geese can fly up to 33000' and Vultures up to 37000', the world record for a bird strike is 38000' and that was a Vulture.... But I very much doubt this issue was a bird strike, because it is very very rare at that altitude. So those who insulted the man because he mentioned bird, well you are the retards here. And secondly an aircraft is always called a, "bird" so you might want to use some DF when reading a comment before jumping in an insulting the person.

      michael.barns.1 - 2012-08-21 12:30

      News24 stop deleting my comment? Is there something wrong with it? Let me know and then I will fix it, freedom of speech my a@#

  • peter.vanachter - 2012-08-20 23:09

    Think its time to upgrade your fleet...these planes are from the sixties

      indianajohn - 2012-08-20 23:24

      Um... the first MD-83 was delivered in 1985 (which is quite far away from the sixties if I'm correct). 1Time's oldest MD-83 is 24 years old.

      indianajohn - 2012-08-21 00:11

      Sam, they aren't really. Depends more on cycles flown than age anyway. I've flown 40 year old planes that are as safe as they were new. These days, most airlines don't replace aircraft because of age but because of running costs, fuel efficiency, noise etc. The old planes could continue almost indefinitely, and many are converted to cargo planes and continue flying for decades after their airline duty is done. They are safe. South African Airways currently operates a 31 year-old 737 as a cargo aircraft. It spent the first 14 years of its life carrying passengers and the next 17 carrying cargo, and will continue to do so for many years if they choose to keep running it.

      barry.pointeer - 2012-08-21 05:44

      aircraft suffer technical / engine difficulties all the time - its the media that blow everything out of propotion and make the public start to loose confidence in the airlines. all multi engine aircraft are certified to fly with one ingine inopretive and the crew are drilled in the simulater on how to handle these situations/emergencies - i take my hat of the the 1time pilots for doing what thet are trained to do and getting the passengers back on the ground safely- and by the way all the aircraft in the fleet were built in the 80's, but yes -time to upgrade...

      johnwilliam.roberts - 2012-08-21 06:53

      It's got nothing to do with the age of the aircraft Dc3 s are still flying in the Saaf

      michael.barns.1 - 2012-08-21 08:01

      um... the SAAF dont fly DC3's per say... They fly Turbo Dac's, its a complete new aircraft, not the graceful old lady from the 1940's. 1Times problem is maintenance. I have a 1950 Beetlecar maintained perfectly, never breaks down, my find has a Beetlecar, never maintained, breaks down all the time... just saying.

      john.comyn.18 - 2012-08-21 08:56

      Are they waiting for the damn thing to fall out the sky and kill scores of people?? Was it not a 1 Time aircraft that dropped an engine in CT a while back. The netire fleet should be grounded and checked.

      mholthuysen - 2012-08-21 09:58

      indianajohn - the oldest plane 1Time operates in SA skies is 30 years old ZS-TRD... the average age of the fleet is 24.5 years old... ancient if you look at planes in European or even in Asian skies!

  • mknnko003 - 2012-08-20 23:36

    I just booked a ticket for next week...

      tshepo.lebethe.52 - 2012-08-20 23:43


      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-21 00:33

      Cancel it ,get a refund and fly Kulula if you want to be safe!

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-21 01:05

      Like living dangerously hahahaha

      benjamin.doyle.351 - 2012-08-21 08:41

      @sekalf...No seriously, SAA brought this on themselves, don't you think. I am sure Kim would not have said this if SAA did not do silly things.....and this is not said to you in a rude manner.

      arm.witmens - 2012-08-21 10:20

      fly saa - the new cadet program and AA appointees should make you feel safe and secure

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-08-21 15:29

      Cancel it and fly Santaco

  • Desilusionada - 2012-08-20 23:43

    "the left-hand engine had experienced technical problems" As opposed to a non-technical problem? Like the engine wanted to be on the right hand side, went on strike, or held his breath or got stolen in mid flight? It cannot be a bird strike responsible for engine failure every time, seeing that the other airlines operate as many or more flights/planes without similar frequency of incidents. A quick test of, or improvement in, their service standards would be to put some of their executive and board members every flight. Sad to say, but as a general comment, a 30% pass rate matric does not qualify a person to maintain jet engines. In fact not even skateboard engines. (The people who wrote matric 18 years ago are now 36.) So was it bad luck, poor maintenance or old planes? My problem is the shades of Eskom grid maintenance, poor bus maintenance, road maintenance etc are looming a bit too large. Oh yes, and do not forget a certain bolt used for sabotage...

      harry.dewet.5 - 2012-08-21 08:36

      You are right - with the previous engine failure it could have been either a cut in maintenance costs or incompetency, but this time their technical services team has clearly illustrated how incompetent they are.

  • des.cider - 2012-08-21 00:11

    Special insurance rates are now being offered for travellers on 1 Time airlines.

  • maloma.kholofelo - 2012-08-21 00:21

    ...and that is the reason I am not taking 1time after my graduation this coming December...

  • tommo.too - 2012-08-21 00:26

    1time engine problems. SAA dont want whites. So it'll be BA and Kalula for me thanks...

      tw2066 - 2012-08-21 06:30

      See you on a plane - I'm with you 100% pal.

  • lala.kunene - 2012-08-21 01:05

    I personally, wont advise my family to use this......

  • Sakhumzi Vapi - 2012-08-21 03:51

    I never booked em again ever since i saw two cockroaches in that craft. soon its gona be flying Roadlink

  • Sakhumzi Vapi - 2012-08-21 04:00

    i never booked em again ever since i have seen cockroaches inside the craft. soon its gona be Roadlink on air

      hendrikvs - 2012-08-21 07:44

      Naughty cockroaches! I am sure they did not have tickets to fly. Or were they high-flying cockroaches?

  • simon.carter.5836711 - 2012-08-21 04:34

    Wonder if they will change their name to 'Twice Time' now?

  • tshepo.batista - 2012-08-21 04:48

    Lets hope its 4 de last time

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-21 06:29

    Choice is limited, I wont fly RACIST SAA / Mango or RUSSIAN ROULETTE One time, leaves BA / Kulula ....

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-21 07:06

      Funny thing is that BA operates older aircraft than 1Time and Racist SAA does the maintenance ( Boeing 737-200 still with BA)

      WimpieN - 2012-08-21 07:56

      @Wayne. The last 737-200 BA/Comair flew was in Jan 2011. They have long since been scrapped and sold. Comair/BA has no more "old generation" aircraft. SAA Technical (seperate company, own CEO etc.)maintains the whole Comair/BA fleet as well as SAA fleet plus some more. Technical functions seperately from corporate and has nothing to do with the employment policies of any corporate ventures. It must also be understood that SAA Technical is in the business of maintaining aircraft only and are a "service provider" so tot speak for SAA. Hope this clarifies the situation a little bit.

      harold.pennington.5 - 2012-08-21 08:40

      BA/Comair are going to have fun increasing their ticket prices now.

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-21 11:02

      Thanks Wimpie for the input and update

  • des.cider - 2012-08-21 06:41

    At 35000 feet?? Some bird!

      johnwilliam.roberts - 2012-08-21 06:57

      Yes I agree next they will be saying it was an ostrich strike

      jacobus.m.vantonder - 2012-08-21 08:16

      Vultures, but then the damage would be more, yes you do find vultures, whiteback, even higher than that, it is part of a communication system to find food over a much larger area.

  • thechrisberryshow - 2012-08-21 07:00

    I'll be flying 0time with these guys

  • thadelphukem.completely - 2012-08-21 07:07

    Damn!!! On a wing and a prayer hey!!! I'll stick with Kulula thanks...

      raymond.romans.5 - 2012-08-21 11:15

      I've had the same incident on Kulula on takeoff. We completed the flight to Lanseria. Scary. That was a really old plane too.

  • lekkeperd.chevyss - 2012-08-21 07:09

    I will never fly with 1Time. They have the oldes McD Douglas airframes in SA and have had about 4 makeovers inside and outside. Those planes are long overdue for retirement. Come on 1Time this time it is about time to Buy new planes !

  • jabulani.ngwenya.90 - 2012-08-21 07:17

    replace the engines; its cheaper than replacing the whole plan and spend eternity trying to replace the lost lives for we will make you pay for ever for there is no enough value attached to life. Or maybe you should just close your business if you do not understand the value of life. These are solutions I offer to you for free, take them , I will not charge you.

  • mjvandersandt - 2012-08-21 07:22

    This is politics sticking its head out to drag other airlines to the level of the racist SAA. Typical news 24.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-08-21 07:58

    Better to fly 1time than racist SAA !! I'll take my chances !!

  • mandy.robinson.5074 - 2012-08-21 08:11

    Same aircraft, but this time a different engine, and somehow the spokesperson for 1Time thinks this information should set the passengers at ease????

  • jacobus.m.vantonder - 2012-08-21 08:13

    @ wayne.redman.7 vultures, mainly whiteback vultures, they have been seen before at 40 000's part of there communication system to find food over large areas..

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-21 11:05

      Fair enough Jacobus but in twenty years of flying I yet to see one

  • CandyAlbeLeo - 2012-08-21 09:31

    They need to ground these planes!! I too was on a cape town to durban flight that had to do an emergency landing in PE 3 months ago!!! Do something before there's a greater tragedy!!

  • lydonmcg - 2012-08-21 10:05

    Pity...I much prefer 1time's service to Kulula. Wish their birds were also up to scratch!

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-08-21 10:14

    I will certainly not use 1 time again because I don,t have wings

  • richard.zanner - 2012-08-21 10:18

    Maybe the airline should be called 2 time.

  • john.vanrooyen.79 - 2012-08-21 10:41

    first time, 1time, last time.

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-08-21 14:15

      Thus why I fly Santaco

  • nick.hill.52493 - 2012-08-21 11:10

    Perhaps another good look at their Engineering staff qualifications would suffice ??

  • charmaine.louw.104 - 2012-08-21 11:59

    Kindly fix the problem, I am flying to Kzn on a 1 time flight in 3 weeks!

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-08-21 14:13

      For sure you are going to use the same plane with technical glitches

  • shayastaj - 2012-08-21 13:07

    ONE TIME FOR THE LAST TIME!!! Thanks but not thanks, will not fly with them.

  • mfana.khuzwayo.1 - 2012-08-21 13:47

    Write -off da damn flippin thing before it kills people or maybe is that what 1 Time is waiting for ???

      firstseed.mbeva - 2012-08-21 14:14

      They want to experiment

  • charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-21 14:01

    Well, with everyone not flying SAA anymore, 1Time will be able to fix and update their planes as the money will now start rolling in...I will still rather fly with them than with SAA..

  • jo.c.lombard - 2012-08-21 14:19

    living on the edge!!!

      shayastaj - 2012-08-21 15:16

      Flying on the edge :-)

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