2 die in Pretoria street race

2012-03-01 13:11

Pretoria - Two men died in a street race in Pretoria North on Thursday morning, paramedics said.

Eye witnesses saw four vehicles racing through red traffic lights at 01:00, said Netcare 911 spokesperson Jeffrey Wicks.

"The driver of a bakkie appeared to have lost control of the vehicle while negotiating a bend. The bakkie left the road and struck a tree at high speed. Both the driver and passenger were killed on impact," he said.

Wicks said no one else was injured and the other cars drove away.

Three people died in an apparent drag race in Pretoria in April.

Afterwards Transport Minister Sbu Ndebele urged law enforcement officials to crack down on illegal drag racing.

"Law enforcement officers are expected to know where these illegal drag races are taking place, and must stop it even before it starts," he said.

Ndebele said law enforcers should not be afraid to confiscate vehicles or suspend licences if it would prevent illegal drag racing.

  • Shirley - 2012-03-01 13:21

    The sad thing is that these "drag races" occur at the same venue and police do nothing!The other drivers must be charged with murder. Metro cops must wake up!

      procold2 - 2012-03-01 14:44

      these races were reported on carte blanche the other sunday, if the metro cant stop somthing they know about how can they or the law be respected

      Alex - 2012-03-01 16:08

      It's probably more lucrative for them to do nothing....

      Mary - 2012-03-01 18:36

      Wake up ?? Now you're asking a lot. Too busy taking bribes to be bothered.

      Chris - 2012-03-01 21:09

      the sad thing is, that the cops are in on it...and I have that on good authority... breaking up a meeting is a peaceful process, it happens all the time..

      dumisiledee - 2012-03-02 09:02

      Stop blaming Metro's Shirley and let them be accountable for their actions

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:22

      If you know this as fact, why dont you post here the exact address of the "venue". If you know that police do nothing, why dont you do anything - like phone the minister, or every police station in the area, or the media. Maybe the public must also wake up!

  • elewies - 2012-03-01 13:28

    Well its to their own doing... Feel sorry for their families, but not for these people who put other people's lives in danger

  • Colin - 2012-03-01 13:28

    Well, that's them out of the gene pool.

  • Ross - 2012-03-01 13:32

    On Carte Blanch a few weeks back they were saying that there should be a time and a place for drivers to be allowed to this, without them having to go to the track... I think this might have just killed the small idiotic chance they may have had...

      Kala - 2012-03-01 15:22

      Ross. In Durban on several occassions they have closed one of the roads on a Sunday and held controlled and monitored street racing. The event was open to anyone and was, as I heard, highly successful. It can be done.

  • Luzuko Tosh Plaatjie - 2012-03-01 13:37

    It should be a lesson to others to stop this racing before innocent people die

      Mary - 2012-03-01 18:36

      Not to mention the pain and suffering of the poor trees.

      Gcwabe-KaMavovo - 2012-03-02 07:38

      Classical treehugger

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:25

      It should be a lesson that you cannot properly race with a bakkie - get something better, maybe something with awd, abs, traction control, roll cage?

  • Barry - 2012-03-01 13:37

    The reason why skilled drivers go to the race track and the mentally retarded race on the streets.

      Mary - 2012-03-01 18:37

      Sponsorship ??

  • Melissa - 2012-03-01 13:38

    No sympathy...

      Joubs1957 - 2012-03-01 13:59

      If it were family members of yours Melissa, would you still have said "No sympathy" ???

      Evan - 2012-03-01 20:31

      Melissa, like me , probably has no-one stupid enough in her family who would want to "drag" race. Some things can be made personal... but this is not one of them. There are laws in place and they were NOT upheld. And in this case the price was high. The nature of such reckless behavior is such that it has its consequences, and while no-one want to see people killing themselves in auto wrecks, to what extent should the general populous show concern when something like this happens because of poor judgement.

      Michelle - 2012-03-02 11:52

      Besides rules not being upheld, these people had no respect for other road users and that is probably the most tragic part of this whole thing. People just DO NOT care how their actions affect others - it is called lack of consideration and respect- the moral decay of our society

  • marnusmnorval - 2012-03-01 13:39

    This is becoming a serious issue in South Africa. No drastic steps are being taken against people who drive unsafe and with no respect to other road users. In Bloemfontein I drove home one night and counted 21 infringements by other road users.. Driving to fast, doesnt use indicators, skips red robots etc etc. And guess what. Most of the time the culprate lives but takes a few innocent people with them. I wish South Africa can be as strict as New Zealand against road users. Support - 2012-03-01 15:18

      One day i tried counting infringements on the way to work from Kempton Park to Midrand. Gave up after 200 and i wasnt halfway there...

      JohnSA02 - 2012-03-02 06:28

      Nothing is done because because the average law enforcer just does not give a hoot. He is there to earn a wage, not to serve the public. Case in point, Helshoogte pass outside Stellenbosch that is taken over by the motorbikes on a Sunday morning. Do I ever see a law enforcer their? No.

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:29

      @JohnSA02 - maybe you should get a motorcycle and go up and down hellshoogte pass a few times - then I'm sure you'll sing another tune... can you comment on the number of motorcycle accidents in hellshoogte pass as suppose to anywhere else? I'll wait for you at Tokara and we can share thoughts over coffee...

  • Gerda - 2012-03-01 13:42

    They race because they can! Nobody is prepared to stop them and they seem to be totally above the law. We have reported street racing so many times and the neither the police or the traffic cops want to get involved and even if they do come out, they do absolutely nothing to these offenders. We had 2 cars written off by a reckless speedster and I had to beg the police for about a year just to take a statement from me and to charge the driver with reckless driving. As long as they get away with it, they will do it!

  • Gerda - 2012-03-01 13:49

    As long as they are allowed to do it they will. Neither the police, nor the traffic dept are really serious to get involved, these offenders seem to be above the law.

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:32

      then they must be government officials

  • Lucia - 2012-03-01 13:53

    At that time of night? Mostly these races are alcolhol related. I wonder? So sad and unnecessary...

      Klipkop - 2012-03-01 14:22

      Of course! Mr. Testosterone likes his booze.

  • Nathi - 2012-03-01 14:05

    The same amount of money that is exchanged for a street race(most times less money), can be used to dice it out at Kyalami/Zwartkops etc. At least there if something goes wrong you can walk away and there is help at hand and innocent people don't have to die for your lack of driving skill. I have a fast car, but it does race on public roads.

  • Karen - 2012-03-01 14:11

    Lock them up.. how many innocent people have to die (including themselves) for their thrill. You that's travelling on the road with caution for some idiot to ramp into you coz they lost control of their high speed race.. Hell No to speed if you want to race then go to a controlled space where's support should something happen. Those guys that spend thousands on modifying their vehicle can spend a few rands to be on the track.. And to the police you know exactly where the drags happen atleast make an appearance for these idiots to Disperse.

      Kai - 2012-03-02 09:02

      How do you intend to lock them up when they have both died?

  • Xoli - 2012-03-01 14:31

    Dont people read or watch the news, have they not heard of a certain jub jub. I hope the passenger was in on it..

  • Sylvia - 2012-03-01 15:14

    Another Darwin award.

  • Pieter - 2012-03-01 15:28

    This Wolmer street racers are really dangerous on the road ek sĂȘ.

  • Irene - 2012-03-01 15:56

    No sympathy whatsoever.

  • Narike - 2012-03-01 16:05

    The Fast and the Furious... and the Dead

  • satanslord - 2012-03-01 16:07

    Speed thrills and it also kills.

      Juan - 2012-03-01 17:27

      Rather stick to the Playstation or Xbox, if you wipe out, just hit the reset button

  • Quinn - 2012-03-01 16:11

    Poor tree

  • Ben - 2012-03-01 16:33

    Lost another moron!

  • markus.botha - 2012-03-01 16:35

    God must love stupid people. He made soooo many.

  • allan.ryan - 2012-03-01 16:56

    Shame the poor tree!

  • AllanLouiseOelschig - 2012-03-01 17:20

    Darwin award goes to??

  • Mary - 2012-03-01 18:34

    Lets stop the racing vehicles from the Blue Light brigades first.

  • Jenny - 2012-03-01 21:53

    Don't just TALK about cracking down - DO IT!

  • Mark - 2012-03-01 22:03

    Good. Morons.

  • christo.crous - 2012-03-01 23:48

    The owner of the bakkie Quinton Denner was a 24 yo mechanical flight engineer,and his buddy Hein van Tonder (19)was drive that night. Real sad if you put a face to this his mom lost her only other son 21 years ago from some lung disease.. enough with the harshcomments guys..

      christo.crous - 2012-03-02 00:07's late.. excuse all the typo's.. lol

      JohnSA02 - 2012-03-02 06:33

      Sad that they paid the ultimate price, but I will not withdraw on the harsh comments. These idiots should have THOUGHT just a little bit more about the possible consequences of their irresponsible/idiotic actions. People must start taking RESPONSIBILITy for ill discipline and disreguard for others.

      Onke Dali - 2012-03-02 08:21

      For every action theres a consequence, what if they had crashed into an innocent victim driving home at night? They deserve everything they got.

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:44

      Yes I see his face - still young - other could interpet it as irresponsible. I also see a turbo charged opel corsa - an entry level car not built for speed or performance (or safety), but rather as cheap as possible as many as possible. Since news24 report the accident was with a bakkie, is it reasonable to assume it is a corsa bakkie... Fact is - he was a young ambitious petrol head - who liked fast cars and big engines with turbos etc, but obviously young and impressionable and gambled with his life and those of others and lost by drag racing in a public street - where there are trees and other cars and other people and lampposts and building etc. look - if it was my brother or my friend or my kid - I will be devastated, but I will also wonder how could be have been so stupid, and how could I, knowing that he was involved in this, have prevented such a tragedy

  • Jan - 2012-03-02 07:09

    They deserved it! And their parents as well. If you were so concerned for your son's safety you would have raised him better.

  • Marc - 2012-03-02 08:02

    Pictures please. I hope the tree is okay.

  • veronica.deanboshoff - 2012-03-02 08:30

    I live in Pinelands Cape Town, every Friday, Saturday & Sunday night there is drag racing down Forest Drive, they race from Langa into Jan Smuts Drive down Forest Drive onto the N2 and back to Langa receiving large cash payouts should they win, I have reported this not once but at least a dozen times to the Mayors Office, Traffic, Police, Radio Stations, on one occassion they set traps on Forest Drive and at 10 o'clock packed up and went home when it was clearly stated that the racing starts at about 11pm. I know of at least 8 people that have lost their lives on this stretch of road. I give up!!!! Sometimes I wonder if the cops are not part of this whole money making racket!!

      Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:48

      go there - take video and pictures. get permission to erect speedbumps on those roads. take it to the media, not the government. did you not hear the honourable mr malema state that the government, even the anc is run by the media

  • kasamkelo - 2012-03-02 09:10

    Leave police alone, they cant follow each and every stupid driver behind the wheel. Drag racing is not about doing it on same road over and over again, people drag race on freeways and yes i've seen them doing it..........

  • Zoleka - 2012-03-02 09:10

    Too many stupid people on the road. So many road safety campaigns by Government and still people choose stupidity. Maybe they should change their angle....and campaign against stupidity since following road rules is so difficulty for some people.

  • stampalex - 2012-03-02 09:43

    Zoom Zoom... Bye...

  • Pieter - 2012-03-02 09:51

    I heard about a street race once, you know on the "down low" and everything - I went there to see what its all about, if there really are all these hot chicks like in fast and furious etc. when i arrived in a dark empty industrial area - only people there were the metro police... they did not wear skipy clothes and were not really as hot as the chicks in america...

  • Dylan - 2012-03-02 10:17

    Last night I had a conversation with a cop regarding street racing and the fact of the matter is that not all guys can afford it to go race at tarlton or drag strips like that and street racing will NEVER stop. Lets encourage the local municipalities to be proactive and get involved with street racing in the sense that we arrange with them to have cops there to close the roads between 10pm and 1am and allow petrol heads to race under "CONTROLLED" conditions. Give racers conditions to events like this by offering them an opportunity like "CONTROLLED STREET RACING", but by offering them this, if they ever get caught in an illegal drag race their cars will be impounded, license suspended and/or a severe fine. By doing this police will have street racers by the balls so to speak as they have offered street racers the opportunity to race and there for there will be no need to race illegally.

      JohnSA02 - 2012-03-02 18:38

      Yes, you have made good comments, but we are fast heading towards a society where there is no respect, no discipline, and then when things go wrong, we try and condone bad behaviour. To RVDUNN. You are a freakin idiot and should be locked up. There should not be a place for people like you with this attitude.

  • Ben - 2012-03-02 15:13

    I read this comments with tears in my eyes... Did you think about what your comments are doing to the family of the kids that died? Did you see the accident? Were you there? Do you know for sure it was a street race? Maybe you should be thankfull your kid did not make it in the paper this way! I am a greaving parent and the comments are uncalled for! The loss of a child (in my case 2) are a hell nobody would understand! Did none of you ever raced at sometime or another? Made a accident? Caused a accident?? Of cause not! You were born a adult... sad sad sad! We all have so much to say about someone else but forget we were also young once and lived a dream of driving the fastest car... Please keep in mind you never had the privilege to know this kids and shared there dreams... And also keep in mind they had mothers and fathers that loved them and are reading this... rather thank God it wasn't your sons!

      jvdunn - 2012-03-02 17:32

      Ben, your comment is by far the most grown up comment of the entire lot. Yes, every youngster with a fast car wants to prove it, I know I do, I also race these illegal races, and enjoy it, there are precautions taken, but also everything is down to the drivers and driver error, something could of broken on the vehicle for them to lose control, anything from control arms, cv's, and wheels suddenly locking. Any one of you who things "ya right" is foolish, I am sure that, like myself, every street racer or track racer has had something break during action, some know how to react, and unfortunately the younger inexperienced drivers are still to learn these tips. Do not judge so quickly, no one knows exactly what happened that night, and these so called "eye witnesses" are never truthful, but rather intimidated. My friends and I will happily continue street racing, any metro cop who thinks he knows how to handle his GTi6, or Focus ST is more than welcome to try catch me, they can guarantee to get to know my rear end for the entire journey. Hello to all OPC and Opel drivers out there The General ;)

  • billidp - 2012-03-02 17:30

    When will these idiots learn - SPEED KILLS!!

  • Pieter - 2012-03-02 19:16

    A bit late to stop it is it not. I detest street races as nothing good ever comes out of it.

  • Jannie Bezuidenhout - 2012-03-07 21:41

    To all you idiots!!!! How many of you drink and drive how many of you speed! My friends life was taken in this accident and do you know how it feels to stand at that open grave please do me a favour if this happens to you or your friend or family remember your word becouse I will love every monent of this!

  • wayne.ferreira2 - 2012-03-13 18:23

    Inexperienced drivers and petrol heads are two different things. There are people (true petrol heads) who has been racing on and off the track for years without any accidents. AND THEN you get a punk or two who don't know what they're doing, andrenaline takes over and they kill themselves and other people. Know the difference. Go to a street race and see for yourself. I can't count on both my hands how many guys I know with properly built cars wich cost them 50k+ to build, and they are still alive. I'm not talking about fast and furious looking cars bacause that's what you all see when you hear street racing. I'm talking about engine modifications to give power. Go and see for yourselves, at least 90% of those cars wich caused accidents like these are stock standard. It's sad to see how quick you all are to judge something you're not a part of or know anything about. Go do some research first. Sure it's dangerouse to innocent people, but everyone knows where voortrekker road is and everyone knows what happens there on sunday nights. So just stay away if you love turtles. Easy.

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