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40% of Gauteng cops can't drive

2013-04-05 09:14

Johannesburg - Nearly 40% of Gauteng police do not have drivers' licences, The Star reported on Friday.

Community safety MEC Faith Mazibuko told the Gauteng Legislature that 11 611 SA Police Service (SAPS) operational members in the province did not have drivers' licences, compared to 18 872 who did, according to the report.

Mazibuko said 60% of those without licences were functional members working outside police stations as crew on response and sector vehicles, client service centres, as guards at cells and courts, at roadblocks and as domestic violence co-ordinators.

Democratic Alliance Gauteng provincial leader John Moody, who asked the question in the legislature, said it was "an explicit requirement for employment under the SAPS Act" to have a valid driving licence.

Department of community safety spokesperson Thapelo Moiloa said members were deployed as Mazibuko said.

"However, it is a worrying factor [that] in the event that they are requested to drive attending to scenes of crime, this would compromise the safety of other drivers on Gauteng roads," Moiloa told the newspaper.

SAPS Gauteng said police no longer required licences.

"Since 2007, the SAPS nationally began to relax the mandatory requirement for a licence from applicants for employment in the SAPS," Colonel Nxolo Kweza was quoted as saying.

"In 2009, the licence requirement was then removed as a requirement for recruits as an entry-level constable."

 

Comments
  • Khatwo Nenongwe - 2013-04-05 09:22

    Dats crazy bcoz the requirement for police is matric n drivers licence.I hope 2mrw u wil give us stats hw many of them they dnt hav matric

      Kelvin Mzuzu - 2013-04-05 09:29

      That's true,and when they r in that uniform,they think that they know better than anyone.

      testoffle.testmaster - 2013-04-05 09:58

      I thnk tht ppl wth matrc cn typ usng fll wrds. Bt u r Rght dat is Krazy !!!!!! Seriously news 24. Please can we ban sms speak.

      Duncan IMash - 2013-04-05 09:59

      Even some of those with license they don't know how to drive they are a risk to the community. . .

      kalabafazi - 2013-04-05 10:07

      I wonder how many don't have a valid driver's license but drive anyway?

      Ricky Correia - 2013-04-05 10:10

      I totly agree Testoffle.

      Fussed Anderson - 2013-04-05 10:22

      ""Since 2007, the SAPS nationally began to relax the mandatory requirement for a brain"" as well as in all sectors

      Anthony Rodriques - 2013-04-05 10:26

      I wonder how many of the licences were bought.

      Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-04-05 10:36

      dont hold your breath because that statement is going to be spin doctered somehow, some spokesperson is going to come and say they were quoted out of context or those 40% were inherited from the previous government or those 40% are all new recruits - mark my words

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-05 10:40

      Shows how corrupt our ministry and police is.

      Bheki Dladla - 2013-04-05 11:14

      maybe the Cop minister as well as the cop commissioner also dont have their drivers but just a bank card coz thats all that matter ethics aside.

      Harley Quin - 2013-04-05 11:45

      @ Anna Maria, that is not a bad idea, just remember that we only need 30% to pass anything so that would mean in order to get a license they would only need to start the car

  • Bernhard Heyns - 2013-04-05 09:25

    Mandartory requirement for a license is not the only thing the SAPS has relaxed on since 2007....

      Foc Us - 2013-04-05 09:57

      They VERY much relaxed their midrifs too ..... and their back-sides .... I have never seen so many fat cops .... SAPS as well as JMPD!! Those pants are made of VERY good material .... that they don't tear is a wonder of the world!!

      sarah.bouttell - 2013-04-05 10:55

      Stuffing disgraceful. Furthermore, how many of them are driving state owned vehicles regardless of their "non-licensed" status. Am so pissed at the fact we are being policed by a bunch of yahoo's.

  • MastersVoice - 2013-04-05 09:27

    That sounds about right - I think close on 40% of all people driving on our roads cannot drive either...

      marc.rule - 2013-04-05 09:48

      only 40%......... I think a lot more.

      Ricky Correia - 2013-04-05 10:11

      Probably only 4% CAN drive.

      Freddie Miller - 2013-04-05 13:25

      100% of mini bus drivers

  • Junior Mahlo - 2013-04-05 09:27

    Just imagine calling them for help and the respond will be like... "no one has got a licence here we will come later, we are waiting for constable Nkandla"

      marc.rule - 2013-04-05 09:48

      When he returns from KFC

      Wonky Donky - 2013-04-05 10:10

      LOL!!!!! thats brilliant

      Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-04-05 10:38

      LOL death by Constable Nkandla - is he going to come after cashing up at the tuck shop or after watching 6 a side on his new build soccer field?

  • Barney Dino - 2013-04-05 09:28

    No wonder.....SAPS..biggest organised crime syndicate in Africa......oh no, thats the ANC!

  • Gifted Moyo - 2013-04-05 09:29

    That explains why you can call the cop shop and they tell you we don't have transport. Too shy to say ''I can't drive.' Its just the way the cookie crumbles.

  • Benjamin Ndambi - 2013-04-05 09:31

    Yet 100% of criminals can drive. Do we realy have a minister of police?

      Antionette Le Roux - 2013-04-05 09:55

      Yes - but remember she cannot read .....

      ange.kritzinger - 2013-04-05 10:51

      Antoinette, the police minister is Nathi Mthethwa - not National Police Commissioner Ria Phiyega.

  • rooibok - 2013-04-05 09:32

    Realy...Is this a April fools joke?

  • Rimo Benjamin - 2013-04-05 09:32

    SAPS can give them bicycles or horses

      Wonky Donky - 2013-04-05 10:13

      Imagine a cop next to you on his bicycle, ching ching............... ching ching.............. pull over please. What are they going to do if they need to arrest you??? Put you in the basket???

  • Savannah Queen-b Harley - 2013-04-05 09:34

    Hahahahhahhahahaha!!! What a joke!

  • Jacques - 2013-04-05 09:34

    So NOW the question is- if you get pulled over, out of your mind drunk, and the cop asks your license, and you then, slurring your words and giggling, asks 'where's YOUR license, mmmmmister?', and he/she doesn't have a driver's, would anything the cop get on you be admissable to court, since the cop broke the law to catch you breaking the law (driving without a license). A good lawyer should get you off, surely.

      ????? ????? - 2013-04-05 10:02

      Hehehe Jacques....I just shared this article on my FB profile and I said the same thing - You stop me and ask for my license you have to show me yours!! *tit for tat*

      Jacques - 2013-04-05 10:36

      I still wouldn't take the chance though. A proper cop (the majority of them) being asked for his license by a drunk who he pulled over won't be amused.

  • Nico Eksteen - 2013-04-05 09:35

    How the hell do you get employed as a police officer without being able to drive a car. This is ridiculous.

      Andreas Jablonski - 2013-04-05 12:01

      They "RELAXED" entrance requirements. Never mind the "liksens", how about being able to "write" a "statement" - how many "policemen" can do that? We are sooooo screwed!

  • Jacyjay's Letsoalo - 2013-04-05 09:37

    Not having a licence doesn't mean u can't drive a car. I see nothing wrong with police who are hired without a drivers licence anyway if u don't understand how the police vehicle are distributed then u will know it is useless. For example Crime prevention in one Police Station would have 3 Vehicles and 14 Police men or women. Getting a licence isn't easy, I struggled to get mine and I drove without a licence for more than 4 years with no incident. All I do is not to panic when I see a traffic cop...a Drivers Licence doesn't make a u a good driver...although it does give u permission to drive on our public roads and I am a better driver than those who have bought theirs

      Sheilan Clarke - 2013-04-05 10:22

      You just said in your comment a licence gives you permission to drive on our public roads. By not having one, you don't have permission in turn, you're breaking the law and in turn, you're a criminal.

  • Johnny Sebothuma - 2013-04-05 09:39

    Bad News»40 percent police officers in Johannesburg has no valid drivers license, now I understand why this police involve in unnecessarily accident or knocking down walls or houses of community due to their restless driving, l wonder how they succeed to be employed without license, because even on the application form, it stated that those who got matric certificate and valid drivers license and under the age of 35years can apply, indeed we need answers and explanation on how such a thing can happen in SAPS or what criteria they use to recruit police officers, l smell something fisher in this Department..just saying...!

  • Joseph Lefa Sobuthongo - 2013-04-05 09:41

    If we have 40% of SAPS employees without licences' and in a busy province like Gauteng,It means the safety of other drivers is at risk and as a South African i believe that the issue of a licence should be a priority when considering to hire someone in the SAPS. Since they (SAPS workers) don't have licences' how will they do most of the work that requires urgent attention? The minister should really reconsider as far as hiring or deploying incompetent nor illiterate people in the SAPS because some of them can't even write a proper affidavit.

  • Chris Evans - 2013-04-05 09:46

    Yo government!!! Get this sorted ... no wonder why WE the public have to WAIT FOR HOURS for the police to respond to crimes committed against us

  • paul.kershaw.18 - 2013-04-05 09:46

    This poor country goes further and further down the pothole every day. Drivers licenses are surely there to ensure that adequate testing of one ability to drive and knowledge of the rules of the road are applied for EVERYONES safety. Not in SA it seems.

  • Jacques de Bruyn - 2013-04-05 09:46

    40% cant drive, 60% cant read or write, 70% are corrupt and 90% of them are lazy, fat good for nothing cops! WHAT A SHAME!

      Harley Quin - 2013-04-05 10:58

      don't forget about all the ones who failed their fitness test and don't know how to shoot a gun. these guys must rank as one of the worst Police forces in the world

      Andreas Jablonski - 2013-04-05 12:04

      And those are just the ones who haven't been caught! Eish!

  • rob.martin.94402343 - 2013-04-05 09:54

    Par for the course.

  • Nicolaas Geldenhuys - 2013-04-05 09:56

    Well you just need to drive behind a cop to know he hasn't got one.

  • Kim Last - 2013-04-05 09:59

    The requirement for a driver's licence is descriminatory. Most people including myself were able to get driver's lecences after first getting a job and then started saving some money to go to driving schools. How then do you expect people from poor family backgrounds with no job and driver's licence to join SAPS. DA is out of touch with reality.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-04-05 11:24

      Kim Last. In other countries policemen and women are trained to drive in police driving schools.Why that isn't done here is beyond me.

      Kim Last - 2013-04-05 13:12

      i would agree with you Jacqui that the SAPS should take an initiative to facilitate officers who do not have licences to obtain one instead of declining to recruit people without licences in the police force at all.

  • Lesibana Maropola - 2013-04-05 10:01

    Police officers without licences, mhhh. No wonder they are dragging people behind the vans. And yet they have the attitude to give you a traffic fine. Funny country we live in.

  • Tiaan Truter - 2013-04-05 10:07

    because why...they all buy their licenses and in some cases their matric certificates,which means we have dumb police men/woman and drivers who are a danger to our roads.Nothing will be done too them...because that my people,is the ANC way.

  • arthur.tarr.3 - 2013-04-05 10:07

    WHAT HAVE WE BECOME?

      Antionette Le Roux - 2013-04-05 10:18

      Police Academy >>>>>

  • criticallyhonest - 2013-04-05 10:07

    What we must keep in mind is that these are the ones deemed employable by SAPS. They are the best that SA is able to produce for what is a really important career/job; one that impacts on every person living in SA. Now think about that!

  • Hasani Booysen Hlungwana - 2013-04-05 10:08

    I had all requirement and applied at Kemptonpark and I was rejected. There must be some hiden agendas when they recruit. I tried twince without any success. I will try again.

      Wonky Donky - 2013-04-05 10:20

      You are doing it all wrong Hasani. Are you FAT??? you have to be fat and have KFC oil stains on you. please tell me you cant read, if you can your chances are slim...... Tear up your drivers licence, shove a spoon in your nose and act like a complete idiot when doing your interview. Then my friend .......... you will get the job!!!

  • Ann Padoa - 2013-04-05 10:08

    Our police force just keeps getting better and better.

      JamesMWood - 2013-04-05 10:12

      More a police farce!

  • Paul Motsepe - 2013-04-05 10:09

    Then how were they recruited without such a basic requirement? This simply means the problem lies not with the police who do not possess drivers licences but with the so-called Senior Management within the police department who hired them without proper qualifications.

  • Sammy Masehe - 2013-04-05 10:14

    some idiots police in Braamfontein were driving on a wrong side of the road. It was a one way street and they decided (think they couldn't read/see the meaning of the ‘one way’ sign) or rather didn’t have a choice as they are illiterate to just continue driving. Almost knocking pedestrian and they were shouting at the poor guy meanwhile they were wrong. Talk about retards.

  • CAPEGTOWN - 2013-04-05 10:17

    What a joke! Under Zuma, South Africa has become a banana republic; this guy is way out of his depth but we all knew that already.

  • Sheilan Clarke - 2013-04-05 10:17

    I remember cops had to have Matric, a certain percentage in Maths and Science and a drivers' licence.

  • Ashley Van Der Merwe - 2013-04-05 10:19

    The police force in South Africa is in a state of disrepair and is honestly an embarresment. Only in our country do the brilliant Gov (pshh) relax the requirements for police to qualify for employment where our current state of affairs calls for the exact opposite. Next thing you know out police wont have a matric, they wont have to be able to read and write, they will have no physical testing (which seems to be the case as one can see from there peak physical condition, this is a generalization but valid in my opinion ) They will start calling bribes commission and they will be free to do as they please as they currently seem to be doing anyway. This is a perfect example of the communities lack of faith in the police department and the governments poor response into sorting this out might just be leading to a community losing faith in them too. Ignorance is power in todays Government.

  • Erich Goosen - 2013-04-05 10:20

    What percentage is literate?

  • Khotso Sarele - 2013-04-05 10:20

    are they hired to drive vehicles or police d nation?or do they all have acces to cars?

      Peter Neil - 2013-04-05 10:54

      Well would you WALK the nation policing Khotso. Agreed they don't all have vehicles but in an emergency if the only person left to respond to a crisis was unable and unlicensed to drive a vehicle to respond, would this be acceptable if it was your family with the crisis. Why do we always make excuses for substandard. That is why we are where we are now because we accept mediocrity.

      Nico Eksteen - 2013-04-05 11:21

      Quite correct Peter. Sometimes these things need to be spelled out to those that can't think for themselves.

      Nico Eksteen - 2013-04-05 11:21

      Quite correct Peter. Sometimes these things need to be spelled out to those that can't think for themselves.

  • Don Tandy - 2013-04-05 10:20

    I wonder if an in-depth survey was carried out, in what other areas there would be shortcomings. Perhaps they would be indicative of the estimated 20% effectiveness of the police.

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-04-05 10:20

    Those 40% probably have a criminal record too!

  • Nella Kruil - 2013-04-05 10:22

    Surprise, surprise.... oh yes, not surprised!

  • johnny.fortuna.1 - 2013-04-05 10:27

    I cant read all these Mxlish comments!? Speak english!

  • Petr Valcik - 2013-04-05 10:30

    I wonder how many cops can't read either? Yet they have licensed firearms and we trust them to know when to use them? Anyone else see why we are having problems with SAPS making headlines for the wrong reason?

  • Gmale - 2013-04-05 10:38

    Why Do they have jobs? Next time I get pulled over the first thing I do before bribing, I will ask if the officer has a license.

  • Klipkop de Groote - 2013-04-05 10:38

    Bad cops, bad cops, Bad cops, bad cops. Bad cops, bad cops, Bad cops, bad cops. Springfield cops are on the take, But what do you expect for the money we make? Whether in a car or on a horse, We don't mind using excessive force! Bad cops, bad cops, Bad cops, bad cops..

      sarah.bouttell - 2013-04-05 11:00

      Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

  • Peter Neil - 2013-04-05 10:39

    Yes, I would actually love to know the qualifying criteria for the SAPS now days..hahaha! and then they give them weapons. Who wouldn't have a driver’s license in this day and age. Are you telling me NONE of them have their own civilian motor vehicles?? Doubt this very much...they are all on the road judging the amount of people on the road that can’t drive and they want to know why the road death toll is what it is. All taxi drivers have licenses and can they drive??

  • Tshepo Maganedisa - 2013-04-05 10:39

    I take it the commisioner will come out and say she doesnt know how the plan failed while they were all busy at the testing ground trying to get their licenses

      Peter Neil - 2013-04-05 10:59

      Haha Tshepo, I love your sense of humour brother..peace out!!

  • Lesibana Maropola - 2013-04-05 10:58

    @Fox Trixter don't be dumb. The headlines say 40% of Gauteng cops can't drive. I haven't seen anything about callcentres. No wonder 10111 is so useless.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-05 11:02

      And why are we not surprised that Fox Trixter is employed at a call centre...

  • Bheki Dladla - 2013-04-05 11:06

    Im really not surprised at this and I am expecting more shocking news. How many of them can actaully read and write?? Ethics are lacking now thats what......!!! shocked maan sies WTH

      Anele Shane Mahlathi - 2013-04-05 11:39

      You can tell them to write an affidavit for you then you will see how their hand writting look like let alone broken english.!

      Cane Corso - 2013-04-05 12:18

      Some even tell you to write your own statement, and next time take your own pen with.

  • Stinkhout - 2013-04-05 11:07

    The star on the door helps the driver find the steering wheel.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-04-05 11:13

    I suppose they can use bicycles. In a banana republic that's quite alright.

  • Ken Amery - 2013-04-05 11:21

    SO WHATS NEW? 90% OF TAXI DRIVERS DO NOT HAVE LICENCES EITHER

  • Balo Freddy - 2013-04-05 11:24

    Hehehehehe... Ayi!

  • warren-rodel - 2013-04-05 11:33

    Go ANC!