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47% of white SA believe apartheid wasn’t a crime against humanity

2014-12-03 11:24

Cape Town - Whites are less likely to remember the oppressive nature of apartheid than other citizens, according to the 2014 SA Reconciliation Barometer released on Wednesday.

Only 53% of whites who took part in the survey agreed with the statement that apartheid was a crime against humanity.

This was compared to 80% of blacks, 77% of Indians, and 70% of coloured citizens who agreed with the statement.

Whites were half as likely as black South Africans to agree with redressing the injustice of the past.

The barometer, published by the Institute for Justice and Reconciliation (IJR), looked at 10 years of data collected between 2003 and 2013.

The report was titled "Reflecting on Reconciliation: Lessons from the Past, Prospects for the Future".

It was found that in 2003, 86.5% of South Africans agreed that apartheid was an inhumane crime compared to 76.4% today.

Data was collected during face-to-face interviews with a nationally representative sample across all provinces.

The 2013 sample was around 1 989 metro inhabitants and 1 601 non-metro inhabitants.

How history is taught

According to the report remembering the oppressive nature of apartheid encouraged citizens to be aware of its legacy and allow for transformation, rather than reproducing unequal relationships.

The barometer's project leader Kim Wale said the findings perhaps spoke to how history was being taught and that there was a real need to engage white South Africans on what their whiteness meant in relation to the lived experiences of other races.

IJR director Fanie du Toit said the barometer was not "anti-white" but anti-racist.

"Racism is an illness that can destroy a society. We can't afford it in South Africa."

Asked about how the findings related to a seemingly increased trend of racial attacks in Cape Town, Du Toit said one needed to look at how representative the attacks were of the general mindset of the white population.

"One way to look at it is that the bigger interracial contact is smoking out the racists. It is exposing people who have not adopted [this trend] and it is becoming increasingly difficult to hold onto," he said.

"That is not to say that this is exceptionalism."

Comments
  • John Tribelhorn - 2014-12-03 11:39

    Where does all this take us? What I want to know is what Germans today say about the holocaust? Is effluxion of time not taking us away from beliefs in Apartheid and leading us to believe in greater numbers that Apartheid was indeed a crime against humanity?

      Ayesha Omar - 2014-12-03 12:24

      lets move forward sa, past must remain in the past and as a nation we must stand with nations that are also suffering the same as we did

      Maarten Slabbert063 - 2014-12-03 12:25

      It is called Selective Sampling. There are three kinds of lies: 1. Lies. 2. Damm Lies. 3. Statistics. Slow news day, so News 24 is stirring. They would be much better served to learn how to spell! Or perhaps even, how to Report fairly. Imagine that! A news channel that actually reports real news. Not invent nonsense like this.

      Ian Flack - 2014-12-03 12:29

      Let's be positive then......53% [more than half] agree!

      Graham du Plessis - 2014-12-03 12:30

      We can't move forward if half of white people don't acknowledge Apartheid was a heinous crime. I'm not surprised - one often encounters neanderthal views.

      Maarten Slabbert063 - 2014-12-03 12:39

      News24, STOP EDITING OUT RESPONSES! You are treading on very dangerous ground by trying to shape opinion though editing out legitimate responses. It is called Selective Sampling. There are three kinds of lies: 1. Lies. 2. Damm Lies. 3. Statistics. Slow news day, so News 24 is stirring. They would be much better served to learn how to spell! Or perhaps even, how to Report fairly. Imagine that! A news channel that actually reports real news. Not invent nonsense like this.

  • Jan Hendrik Beukes - 2014-12-03 11:39

    All this article is doing is sterring up racism ... Not saying forget the past and learn from the mistakes made, our gov. Should be looking at the mistakes they are making NOW! Nkandla, arms-deal, poperty, reckless lending, crime, unemployment etc. Pointless giving the blame to something that has passed when all it does is taking our attention away from the problems we are facing today...

      Nicole Van Rooi - 2014-12-03 11:57

      Well Jan Apartheid still plays a major role in people lives today.

      sam.e.scapes - 2014-12-03 12:08

      I'm not sure I like this new editor. Using this platform to stir racial hatred. I don't agree with apartheid and what was done, but we have huge problems now that need sorting that all the races need to work together at. This article is purely divisive and not helping at at with our current issues.

      Adrian Bruwer - 2014-12-03 12:10

      My first thoughts as well Jan. This so-called survey is just stirring the hatred pot! You get some people that build a nation with hard work and then some moron runs around asking random questions probably to the first 10 people he meets and then blasts a whole nation with rubbish statistics!

      Marev Audioslave - 2014-12-03 12:20

      So you fall under 53% that agreed? thanks,you didnt have to make it a long story.

      Philani Kcopah Goba - 2014-12-03 12:28

      hahaha Marev...

      Natalie Jones - 2014-12-03 12:47

      I agree it is stirring up hatred and racist comments from all sides. I am white and was not quizzed and hardly know any whites who believe apartheid was an injustice. Many members of my family were jailed during apartheid and lost their jobs for taking part in resistance movements against it. Shame on you guys for posting an article that would stir up trouble when it is not an accurate reflection,

      Nikki Downes - 2014-12-03 12:57

      It's interesting that under Mandela we were far more willing to move forward together as one nation. When groups keep targeting whites as criminals, or encourage our deaths in a song, it's suddenly an us and them again. It's time THIS government accepts responsibility for dividing us and does something to reunite us again as under Mandela

      Orige Oumatjie - 2014-12-03 13:05

      4000 samples out of 50 million people! that's 0,0008% of the population! It's definitely only to stir!

  • Jack Farley - 2014-12-03 11:39

    just stop already about the apartheid.....blah blah blah..

      Piet Pompies - 2014-12-03 12:08

      Agreed!! Getting old

  • Kruger - 2014-12-03 11:40

    Selectively skewed journalism designed to divide people, bad news 24! Fact is the MAJORITY of white people see as a crime against humanity. Bad news 24, and stupid, since they don't know the basics of statistics.

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-12-03 12:02

      Yeah, I suspect whoever did the survey had an axe to grind and delibritely cherry picked participants. More information on how survey wad conducted please!

      Rodney Bevan - 2014-12-03 12:16

      I have to say, not one single white person I know has ever said apartheid was right, not one single person has said bring it back, even with all the BS going on. Lies, damn lies and statistics.

      james.muller.1426 - 2014-12-03 12:29

      84% Of statistics are made up on the spot!

      Natalie Jones - 2014-12-03 12:48

      I'm disappointed that this article was posted. Someone hoping to get lots of comments and viewership. Sis! What an inaccurate reflection.

      Orige Oumatjie - 2014-12-03 12:54

      A sample of 4000 out of 50milion people gives us a conclusion out of 0,008% of the population. This is propaganda for racial stirring.

      Nikki Downes - 2014-12-03 13:44

      I believe that this is a political campaign again. Whenever certain leaders are under pressure they whip out the old 'divide and rule' card against the whites. Zuma does it, Mugabe does it. It's their get out of jail free card.

  • Trevor Myburgh - 2014-12-03 11:40

    Really.....The holocaust also.....?????

  • Dawie van Jaarsveldt - 2014-12-03 11:40

    Who cares?

      Mike Stowell - 2014-12-03 12:04

      I do

  • Heresmy Finger - 2014-12-03 11:42

    What the hell is this? please dont speak on my behalf, you know nothing about me. if all whites didnt get to participate in this, then you score is flawed. This is a baseless opinion and includes no accurate facts.

      sam.e.scapes - 2014-12-03 11:59

      Isn't it enough that we have a racist government without the new editors at News24 now stirring the racial hatred too. Wake up! We as all South Africans need to work together to sort out this almighty mess we are in now. Don't be part of the problem news24 be part of the solution! And where are the articles relating to current news that other news networks are carrying but not a word on your site. Are you a state propaganda channel now like SABC?

      Chez Kri - 2014-12-03 12:13

      Agreed. No-one asked me or anyone I know.

  • Denis De La Port - 2014-12-03 11:45

    I cant see the point of this article.

      Missionman - 2014-12-03 12:39

      One thing for sure is that more whites disagreed with apartheid than agreed with it. The stats speak for themselves so why should we as whites get persecuted if we are not part of that 47%.

  • Joel Mabeke - 2014-12-03 11:45

    To those who wanted to be educated as to why the masses are still voting ANC , the answer is in headlines of thid article.There you have it folks sweet and short and i hope the DA suppoters are reading this so that they can educate their coluegues.

      Helen Lange - 2014-12-03 12:11

      Joel - and what do you make of the 20% black people that didn't agree? It just goes to show that we should not generalize.

      Isabella Meyer - 2014-12-03 12:27

      Joel, go and look at the messed up statistical value of this and then you can make a comment like this. This sample is nowhere near representative of white people as most live in the metros.

      Ryan Viljoen - 2014-12-03 12:33

      So, about that education, Joel....

  • Michael Fuchs - 2014-12-03 11:46

    last time i checked, 53% was more than 47%

      KgoeteLephuru - 2014-12-03 12:18

      But very close for comfort. What this basically means is that every 2nd white person agrees with what apartheid stood for.

      Lynette Mufaro - 2014-12-03 12:19

      Please also check if 53% is also more than 80%

  • Bullit Man - 2014-12-03 11:46

    One statistic that does not show in the article is the age group that took part in the survey. Today's non white younger generation did not experience apartheid so they would not have any idea of how it was a crime towards humanity. We are not talking about the state of the country as it is now but how people were treated in that time. Yes our country is in shambles because of our current government but how non white people was treated during apartheid was a crime.

  • Steven Goldswain - 2014-12-03 11:46

    What a crock of excrement!

  • Wilhelm Van Niekerk - 2014-12-03 11:47

    Yawn....

  • Nkosincedile Matwa - 2014-12-03 11:47

    47% sucks

      JB Pawn - 2014-12-03 12:38

      63% of voters REALLY suck....

      Missionman - 2014-12-03 12:42

      Agreed.

      Twakkie van Staden - 2014-12-03 13:03

      Hehe see not everyone

  • Jp van der Wath - 2014-12-03 11:48

    Whites and everybody else will sure as hell, remember the government failure of today

  • terence.legrange - 2014-12-03 11:48

    SA needs to move on. Never forget the past, but start looking at the future and how to improve instead of the past and stir up emotions like this article surely will.

  • Thomas Jordaan - 2014-12-03 11:48

    Why????? Oh why????? News 24 did you have to place this article there is enough racism on this platform already. Eish mark my words 400 plus comments

      Sejouse Freedom - 2014-12-03 12:31

      Read it again. You'll notice that by certain choice of words this was a racist itself who wrote the article.

  • jimboajubejube - 2014-12-03 11:50

    the only reason injustices from the past still remain in this country is not because of white people nor any race. It is because of our incompetent government who through corruption and lack of action have opted to enrich themselves rather than fix past injustices. It is an easy excuse to throw the blame onto white people instead of blaming the real culprits. people need to start being honest, get real and realise that constantly using apartheid as an excuse and veil for incompetence is actually what is killing this country.

      Uhuru Mokoena - 2014-12-03 19:05

      So hw about 3mill houses that have been built for the poor, 85% of the houses that have been electrified, 90% with direct water connection. 5mill Black Middle Class that the ANC has created in last 20yrs do you call that incompitance

  • Mr.M. - 2014-12-03 11:51

    It's very difficult to remember the atrocities of the old apartheid when one is discriminated against and being subjected to the "new apartheid"

  • Rimmel Brimmel - 2014-12-03 11:51

    SO 20% of black people think that apartheid wasnt a crime against humanity? Surely that is bigger news then 53% of whites?

  • Morne Nortier - 2014-12-03 11:51

    20%, a 5th of black South Africans don't believe it was a crime against humanity? I cannot believe this to be true.

      Israel Frost - 2014-12-03 12:09

      Yes so that means that if you look at the bigger picture that there are millions of blacks who knows that the previous era was better..

  • Trevor Myburgh - 2014-12-03 11:52

    Where did they get the stats.... in Oranje, or from Steve H, or from Chester???? just asking....

      Thomas Jordaan - 2014-12-03 12:02

      Classic Trev. Lol

  • Frikkie Taljaart - 2014-12-03 11:52

    Someone with the political power must take this IJR to the human rights commission for instigating hatred towards a minority group

  • James Mc Carthy - 2014-12-03 11:52

    Its rubbish like this that sparks racism! Take the opinion of less then 4000 people in a country of 52million and put a "study" together with rubbish facts! I am white and I am of the opinion it was a crime against humanity and much more than 53% of people from my race feels that way!

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-12-03 12:02

      Agree 100%!

      Nathi Mnisi - 2014-12-03 12:23

      Must say I agree with you totally on this.

      sam.e.scapes - 2014-12-03 12:26

      And our comments are deleted. Have to wonder why someone is deliberating trying to stir up trouble.

      PointBlank - 2014-12-03 12:31

      Exactly.

      Uhuru Mokoena - 2014-12-03 12:40

      So James Mc how come the system lasted so long if you & the majority of our fellow White SA did nt support it apartheid.?.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-12-03 12:52

      You are quite right. I too can take a "smaller" group (i.e. ALL of my white friends) and will be absolutely forced to report that 100% of them believe Apartheid was an absolute injustice! Which really, through my own research within my own group parameters, I hereby denounce the results of the "study" conducted in the article above to be nothing more than statistics manipulated to suit a specific agenda. Also, within the large group of black people I know 100% of them DO NOT BELIEVE that even 1% of blacks thought it was NOT an injustice.

      Leigh-Rose Jenkins - 2014-12-03 12:53

      WOW, First time ever: "your comment will be displayed after it has been moderated"... I won't hold my breath!

  • Henry Dludlu - 2014-12-03 11:52

    Of course they are suppose to believe so because they were on the other side of it. The nice side of it.

      Alex Bax - 2014-12-03 12:05

      I can't believe that anyone could give you a thumbs down for your comment, we have some ill people that can't see the truth out there

  • Songezo Mcapukisi - 2014-12-03 11:54

    wow!

  • Bill Clinton - 2014-12-03 11:55

    Nice going N24 just keep stirring hatred against white people. It's the only thing you're really good at.

  • Stephan Smuts - 2014-12-03 11:55

    20% of black SA believes apartheid wasn’t a crime against humanity. This is according to this article. This should be the headline. Thats like 5 million black people.

  • Fannie Mashilo - 2014-12-03 11:55

    Why should we always look back,forget about the past and let's work to strengthen our rainbow nation.

  • Joey Ranger - 2014-12-03 11:56

    What about todays apartheid? AA, BEE etc etc

  • Wesley Green - 2014-12-03 11:56

    rubbish research! what 20% of blacks and 30% of coloureds agree with apartheid? even 53% of whites is rubbish talk!

  • Knowit All - 2014-12-03 11:57

    This is significant: "It was found that in 2003, 86.5% of South Africans agreed that apartheid was an inhumane crime compared to 76.4% today" Why don't you also give this statistic along racial lines, so that something could be deduced from it?

  • Alex Bax - 2014-12-03 11:57

    A bit of hope that over 50% believe it was, this thinking will improve with the new generations. What's more startling is that 20% of blacks thought that it was not that bad!

  • Raymond Stewart - 2014-12-03 11:57

    Wtf. This is more than 20 years ago. Most of us werent even part of it. Go on with your life and stop looking for excuses to feel sorry for yourself

  • Craig Banks - 2014-12-03 11:57

    Slow news day news24?

  • Alex Bax - 2014-12-03 11:57

    A bit of hope that over 50% believe it was, this thinking will improve with the new generations. What's more startling is that 20% of blacks thought that it was not that bad!

  • Juanita Golgaves - 2014-12-03 11:58

    Well, News24 you deleted my first comment ... I will put it back .... APARTHEID was a complete and total disgrace to this country, to Whites, Blacks, Coloureds and Indians. Apartheid set this country back by at least 5 decades and we are ALL paying the price now and will do so for a very long time.

  • Wesley Green - 2014-12-03 11:58

    i call this Bull research. where are you going to get so many coloureds (30%) and blacks (20%) to agree on apartheid!? nonsense man. people trying to split racial lines again!

  • Bhekisisa Shezi - 2014-12-03 11:59

    All the surveys conducted in SA are not the true reflection of what is happening in us.Who would say and agree that he/she played part when they were conducted?

  • Irvin Whitecomb - 2014-12-03 11:59

    Let the hate speech begin.....lol News24 feeds on this....

  • Roger B. Metcalfe - 2014-12-03 11:59

    The amount of people this survey was taken with is way to little and why didn't the break it down even further to different tribes and cultures? Or languages ? That would have incited a great more readers?

  • Sipho Simon Mogale - 2014-12-03 12:00

    news24 y this crap it promotes hate like sabc old apatheid stories we need to move forward

  • Beverly Botha - 2014-12-03 12:00

    That is such BS...

  • Foxiloxi - 2014-12-03 12:00

    Did they go to ventersdorp to do this study ??? What a load of utter nonsense and of all the whites I know, there is not a single one of them that thinks that apartheid was a good thing?? This article is inflammatory at best and downright ridiculous at worst!!!

  • Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-12-03 12:01

    How were participants cherry picked? I don't believe the result.

  • Chivo Garcia - 2014-12-03 12:01

    Mmm interesting all these little anti white articles on News24 these days.Most of us know you hate our white as$#s, no need to vilify us every day. Many can be written about what blacks do and think every day to people.

  • Michael Mutsharini - 2014-12-03 12:02

    All these 47% are Christians, they think it is Godly. Most religeous leaders preached the wrong gospel then.

  • Maboko Mahlaole - 2014-12-03 12:02

    63% + 47%= How stupid south africans are (110%STUPID)

  • Michael Mutsharini - 2014-12-03 12:02

    All these 47% are Christians, they think it is Godly. Most religeous leaders preached the wrong gospel then.

  • Mike Stowell - 2014-12-03 12:03

    Many white South Africans are in denial of their past. Putting our heads in the sand is not going to help with the implications of the past which will continue to haunt us. Unless if we change our attitudes towards blacks in this country we risk going Zimbabwe's way. Am white and being a white Zimbabwean I do have experience in Zimbabwe of how things can turn out if we don't accept reconciliation in full