AfriForum opposes Malema ConCourt bid

2011-10-16 15:08

Johannesburg - AfriForum has given notice of its intention to oppose ANC Youth League president Julius Malema's Constitutional Court appeal against a guilty hate speech verdict, the civil rights initiative said on Sunday.

Malema and the African National Congress are asking the Constitutional Court to make an urgent decision on the status of the hate song "Kill the boer".

He was found guilty of hate speech last month in the Equality Court, sitting at the High Court in Johannesburg.

AfriForum said it opposed Malema's application on the grounds that it was understood that ANC supporters apparently planned to sing the song during the party's 100 year anniversary festivities in January.

Last week, ANCYL member Tokelo Nhlapo sang the song on the campus of the University of the Witwatersrand.

Willie Spies, AfriForum's legal representative, said the ANC's decision to justify and protect hate songs from the struggle era had created a culture of hatred which had to be stopped.

  • boatmedic - 2011-10-16 15:25

    you can oppose what you want. They will still get away with it and just ravel the fires even more. They must be ignored like a small child looking for attention.

      Ian - 2011-10-16 16:24

      100% reminds me of a spoilt brat screaming and sulking in a mall because mommy didnt buy it a toy

      Sheda - 2011-10-16 16:31

      Why oppose it. Let him make the whites angry, so angry that they will take the country back one day. Is that what Julius wants?

  • Coco - 2011-10-16 15:25

    The ANC has completely lost it's moral compass. From hero to zero in 17 years.

  • sven.gohre - 2011-10-16 15:38

    Any form of song or chant that calls for the killing of another section of the population of a country is hate speech. There is no grey area to be found. In fact the song was not even a CancER "Struggle" song as it was first sung by the PAC in the late 80's. Hate Speech noun Speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. According to every dictionary that I have sourced. If there is still a semblance of Justice in South Africa, the Con-Court cannot find that the song is anything but "Hate-Speech"

  • johanvdberg - 2011-10-16 15:47

    Does this Malema idiot think we are all donkeys out there? And why doesn't the Concourt immediately reject such an appeal? Malema and his co-gangsters are all using money stolen from the tax payers in this or that manner, in order to keep court cases on the go for ever more. If the Concourt also decides to block Malema, what will he do? He'll go to the International Court in The Hague .. why? Because with his stolen money he CAN ! Or: they will sing their offensive songs ANYWAY, and what is anyone going to do about it? I say: if we catch out a leader, a gov minister or the like, take him to the Concourt immediately and save everyone a lot of time, money and aggravation. Leaders are best judged by other leaders because they'll just ride roughshod over anyone else.

  • Atholl - 2011-10-16 15:51

    Bill of Rights S16 Freedom of speech - is allowed ---except-- where : advocates hatred based on Race, Ethnicity, Religion or Gender. These clowns think that the Constitution & the Bill of Rights is a game. You have to wonder what the motive of the Govt is : is it to divide, to weaken ... for Power, Control and Money...? Today it's Kill Boers ... tomorrow Kill Muslims ... then Kill Women ... Kill Sotho's ... Kill the Constitution ? .... motive ???

      Kate - 2011-10-16 15:52

      Well said Atholl

      Johan - 2011-10-16 16:55

      Atholl - this not the Government. It is the ANC. There's a massive difference.

  • Gary - 2011-10-16 16:06

    All the families affected by farm violence, or have lost a loved one to a farm killing sue or petition against Malema. For one of many things, inciting violence, accessory to murder, conspiracy to murder, the list is long. While the hate speech thing is serious, I think its past that, 'Shoot the Boer" has been sung, and that is what has happened, I say the farmers stand up and get serious.

      christine.nutter - 2011-10-16 16:33

      I agree 100%

      Atholl - 2011-10-16 16:34

      There is a better solution : which Afriforum should now use as its Trump Card. The alternative is --not-- to resist the Concourt outcome but to 'Assume' - to 'Allege' - that the rights of the public are threatened by all farmers. Then to request that an inquiry (Commission) be ordered to investigate - to inquire - into the conduct of the 'threatening farmers/whites' and to report on this conduct --- and which report could conclude that all farmers, all whites must be shot because they are a threat. This is like a 008 move ... it's one better than 007.

  • rory.short1 - 2011-10-16 16:55

    It is sad but the people who are involved in this contention are obviously still locked into the grip of our past. The fact is this is their choice but it actually is a wasteful choice because it contributes nothing useful to the brighter future that we all wish for ourselves.

  • Talmadge - 2011-10-16 19:17

    @Daniel You obviously have not noticed all the black people driving in million rand cars, running the country, being appointed as directors of companies because they are black, black cops with criminal records, the list goes on. How can you say the the white elite are still running the country when your skin gets you all you want?

  • Cheryl - 2011-10-16 20:57

    We need to mobilise a larger public prosecutor ORGANISATION infrastructure to deal with the hundreds and hundreds of corrupt people currently in power.....Every day there is more news of corrupt people .... ANCYL members perhaps check on your leaders too? they may be exploiting you and your loyalty.

  • Daniel - 2011-10-16 21:40

    Most black people in south africa still live in the same apartheid slums, the only difference is now there are half a million whites in the slums with them, the price the white elite made so they could hold onto everything. The slums need demolishing, the land redistributing, the farms redistributing, and the mines nationalised. Until this happens, south africa will continue to be a very divided society, with high crime, a tiny black elite, a large black poor, and everything owned and controlled by a 4% white elite. The ANC answer as puppets now not only to the elite, but also to multinational businesses, who basically tell south africa what to do, who to allow in and out and everything else. Mandela did not give his people freedom, he used black tax payers money to rebuild white businesses damaged by anti apartheid sanctions. Most blacks are now even poorer than under apartheid, as the numbers of people grow, and unemployment increases, and they still have to share the same 15% of land. All the promises to redistribute land have been abandoned, and anyone like Malema who speaks out, is silenced, threatened with expulsion, and even being put into prison.

      Horst - 2011-10-17 10:13

      Daniel, this looks to me like confused economics. I suggest you do Economics 101 again.

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