ANC delegation visiting China

2011-10-09 14:31

Cape Town - An ANC delegation led by secretary general Gwede Mantashe is visiting China to cement ties with Beijing and the ruling Chinese Communist Party, the Sunday Independent reported.

The visit has not been made public and ANC spokespeople could not be reached to confirm it on Sunday.

According to the newspaper the 16-strong delegation included Gauteng premier Nomvula Mokonyane. It was due to meet with Chinese President Hu Jintao, who is also general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.

It reportedly left last Tuesday and was due to return to South Africa on October 20.

The visit comes amid a furore over South Africa's second failure in two years to allow the Dalai Lama into the country. Tibet's exiled spiritual leader cancelled a planned visit to South Africa to attend Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu's 80th birthday celebrations at the weekend after waiting in vain for a visa.

The two religious leaders resorted to a video link-up chat on Saturday, in which the Dalai Lama accused China's rulers of hypocrisy and imposing "immoral" censorship on the country's 1.3 billion people.

It is widely believed South African officials acted for fear of jeopardising growing economic ties with China.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-10-09 14:41

    Mmmm. Cubans showing us how to guard and patrol our borders, the ANC getting really cosy with the Chinese. Creeping red tide ? Use your next vote wisely guys, may be your last.

      Lyndatjie - 2011-10-09 15:27

      All expense trip paid by the Chinese Government for looking after them sooooooo well! Guess one "good deed" deserves another huh?

      Nam - 2011-10-09 16:38

      And please do not forget to include the old stalwart Blade Nzimande in the delegation to China......he is one of the super communists in the ANC-government.

      letsee - 2011-10-09 18:37

      Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China. Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China. Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China. Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China. Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China. Funding from Gadaffi is dead. Long live China, ANC loves China.

      jacojansevanrensburg - 2011-10-11 01:24

      What on earth do you mean with ''creeping''. ''Swem jannie ,swem my china!!''

  • Deeteem - 2011-10-09 14:46

    Time to collect the "reward" for being good little commies !! ANC YOU SUCK !!

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-09 14:59

      The ANC has gone to China to give them their ANNUAL BLOW JOBS!!!! ANC all to eager to dish it out!!! ANC = China's PERSONAL WHORE'S!!!!!!

  • Dal68 - 2011-10-09 14:56

    Commies! We were always warned against it, now we WILL experience it.....communism, the longest and hardest route from capitalism to capitalism.

  • Antwahn - 2011-10-09 14:56

    Going to collect their fees from the Chinese. But funny, I thought that whores always get paid before they service the client...

  • Bart Zimzon - 2011-10-09 14:57

    and who is paying for this? yeah, right.

  • FerretGee - 2011-10-09 15:03

    16 people? At what cost to the tax payer and for what reason? Why is it so secretive? What could 16 people possibly hear and see that one person could have? Or did China summon them to chide them for even thinking of looking at a certain visa application??

  • leonard - 2011-10-09 15:09

    The key to this article lies in the words"the visit has not been made public"What the hell does this mean?Are we the public supposed to be kept in the dark about everything,if so WHY?What is being hidden?Seems like there are again a string of questions with never an answer.

      leonard - 2011-10-09 16:42

      @myself.....Just heard on the grapevine real reason for visit.A 10 day course in learning chinese/mandarin.Words such as boss/baas,takeover,anti west,capitalist,anti freedom etc etc etc.Please feel free to words and phrases I have missed.

  • Jetty - 2011-10-09 15:12

    And the plot thickens!

  • africanwolf - 2011-10-09 15:12

    Communism never worked, and will never work anywhere. I am telling you from experience, lived in the Soviet Union. it is like one big jail , where everyone spies on everyone. only private business can run an economy communism = everything belongs to the government and no private business or property allowed. the people will resist such government. if they will try it here there will be a civil war.

  • burtfred - 2011-10-09 15:15

    The new Zambian president Sata is no pal of the Chinese in his country, so no doubt Beijing is on the lookout for other African regimes that they can bribe for their minerals. The corrupt ANC are absolute patsies for the Chinese.

      JamesNd - 2011-10-09 15:46

      Yip! 1.3 billion people, how much agriculture, land and minerals can they wangle out of Africa? These guys dont like to share and feel little sympathy when the s#!t hits the fan.

      nspaynter - 2011-10-09 15:54

      Botswana has chosen the "imperialists" and it's economy is flourishing. makes you think.

  • Sammy - 2011-10-09 15:42

    They must also find out why the chinese economy is booming sans unions,hyper beaurocracy,biased work opportunities and labour laws before we become a province of China at the rate we are going now.

  • sefeddt - 2011-10-09 15:48

    Now we know why he ANC were so reluctant to grant the Lama a visa.

      matla - 2011-10-09 15:51

      u r so intelligent - moronic comment - 2011-10-09 16:17

      Malta YOU are the moron...Where is you reality/

  • neelsf - 2011-10-09 15:51

    Sammy - this is the irony of the matter. The Chinese dictators do not support unions or proper labour laws or anybody that oppose them, but in this instance we do not mind. When it comes to Libya or Syria, SA will veto a request for assistance of the population been victimized by dictators, at the UN. Something does not add up. ??

  • Thingamebob - 2011-10-09 15:51

    It's sad that these people do not know the Chinese. They are hard working and out and out, capitalist's. They don't tolerate lazy stupid people but will put up with them to get what they want and then it's bye-bye. Africans are their favorite diet

  • Newsferret - 2011-10-09 15:54

    Our visa policy will top the agenda list and there-after we will stand with pleading hands stretched out.

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-10-09 15:58

    Down with the imperialist chinese communist party, down! Viva the People of China, viva! Down with the chinese imperialist mercenary invasion, down! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Out with the chinese imperialist mercenary army and police, out! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! Out han settler, out! Viva the People of China, viva! Out the han invader troop, out! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Out the han invader policeman, out! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! Boicott China, boicott! Viva the People of China, viva! Sanction China, sanction! Viva the People of Xinjiang, viva! Stop the Baby Genocide, stop! Viva the People of Tibet, viva! We have to support the Chinese People against the Oppression, Exploitation, and Genocide of the Chinese Communist Party. Also we have to support Tibet and Xinjiang against the Occupation, Tirany, Oppression, Exploitation and Genocide of the Chinese Communist Party. Chinese settles, policemen, troops must leave. Tibet for Tibet! Xinjiang for Xinjiang! We have to be militant against the Chinese Communist Party, Ban it, Sanction it, Boycott it. And the government too.

      leonard - 2011-10-09 17:34

      @John......My G-d John but you are long winded.Do agree withyou however.

  • JohnPicarra - 2011-10-09 16:04

    Will the Tibetans sing the ANC song, " shoot the chinese farmer " ? And shout: " 1 chinese settler, 1 bullet? "

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  • nspaynter - 2011-10-09 16:45

    I did an interesting exercise. The refusal of a visa fir the Dalai Lama has been extensively reported in the media in the West. I decided to do a search in the Chinese news media. No mention at all. So the people on China know nothing of the intended visit or the problem with the visa! Talk about censorship?

      NewNews - 2011-10-09 17:56

      1.3 Billion people not knowing the whole story... pheeew

      NewNews - 2011-10-09 18:13

      In fact, if thats the case, if there is no mention, then.... who's doing business with who.... we arent told that a delegation of sixteen are going to China, and the Chinese dont know whats going on in South Africa... THEREFORE... its only 'officials' doing business with 'officials'

      nspaynter - 2011-10-09 20:00

      @NewNews That's the worry. Both the Chinese government and now the South African ANC don't want the people to know what they are doing. They want it secret. Like the old Nats. The Nats muzzled the press. The Chinese are doing the same to their media. At the moment our media are still able to find the facts and publish them. But for how long? Why the Secrets Bill? While we can still vote, we should be voting the ANC out of power.

  • capetownphotographer - 2011-10-09 17:00

    Who's your daddy? Should be going to China to tell them to FREE TIBET. MF #OccupySouthAfrica

  • StoneAngel - 2011-10-09 18:27

    The article says that the delegation is from the ANC read - African National Corruption Party and I see some big wigs are on the tour - I thought that these people are civil SERVANTS why should I - the taxpayer - be paying for a POLITICAL PARTY to send some members to visit their colonial masters? Will there be a reduction in salary and leave taken as well? Could someone explain.

  • Mistypogo - 2011-10-10 08:06

    Are they going to collect their monthly salary cheques?

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