ANCYL says members are being harassed

2011-09-09 14:08

Johannesburg - The national leadership of the ANC Youth League alleges that its members are being harassed and interrogated by people claiming to be from National Intelligence.

"We understand that these people visit during early hours of the morning to interrogate ANCYL members and leaders about supporters of the ANC who gathered to support the charged leadership in Johannesburg over the past few weeks.

"The ANCYL condemns this kind of intimidation and harassment by these unmarked people, because we do not know what their real intentions are and whether they are legitimate officers of the South African state," the ANCYL said in a statement.

The ANCYL added that it had "unequivocally condemned the violence that took place in Johannesburg on Tuesday the 30th of August", when rioting occurred outside Luthuli House, the venue for the ANCYL's president Julius Malema's disciplinary hearing.

It had also expressed utter disappointment and disgust at those who had burned T-shirts of the ANC bearing the face of President Jacob Zuma.


"The ANC Youth League leadership also spoke to the people who gathered in Johannesburg that they must never agree to be infiltrated by agent provocateurs because their genuine support might be confused with ill-disciplined elements amongst them.

"So for these unmarked people to interrogate and intimidate members and leaders of the ANC Youth League is totally misplaced, uncalled for and unacceptable."

The ANCYL added that it would soon approach the "relevant authorities" to register its concern over the intimidation and unwarranted interrogation of its members "by unmarked people who call themselves National Intelligence".

Malema was set to face the ANC national disciplinary committee again on Sunday at an undisclosed location. This was a continuation of the proceedings that took place last week in Johannesburg.

There has been speculation that Malema, together with the league's top five officials, could be expelled from the party for bringing it into disrepute and sowing division in the party's ranks.

  • Sniper69 - 2011-09-09 14:15

    Yes ANCYL, we actually do have a NIA and they are just up the street from you....if you want to be in politics, make sure you know the higher level that exist...oh no wait...nevermind...that too takes intelligence.

      cameronrh1 - 2011-09-09 14:32

      LOL hahahaha, funny they are quick to intimidate people and burn and destroy everything they get their hands on but when they start getting interogated and intimidated for their actions they are quick to moan about it.

      Pigscanfly - 2011-09-09 15:23

      I think anybody outside the ANCYL is of "National Intelligence"

      Together - 2011-09-09 15:31

      Would everybody who has been harassed or threatened by the youth league over the last five years like to stand up?

      Wes - 2011-09-09 15:34

      Crying now that you being harassed but how brave were you when you were harassing the law abiding citizens of this country

      jowza - 2011-09-09 15:34

      just definately deserve what you getting

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-09 15:37

      "agent provocateurs"...didnt know thats what they call YL members these days

      Spyker May - 2011-09-09 15:40

      The ANCYL is harassed by Intelligence... So what is new..?

      Al Chemist - 2011-09-09 15:59

      Bloody agents

      Daemos1 - 2011-09-09 16:57

      @Pigscanfly lol bells for you

      Fred - 2011-09-09 17:46

      Ag shame !!!! They can dish it out, but they can't take it. Isn't it funny that they are now finding out that they aren't above the law any more?

      Henk - 2011-09-09 22:31

      Your Mamma's should have spanked you hard. No wonder you don't understand cause and effect!

      Netherlander - 2011-09-10 07:11

      To use the word "INTELLIGENCE" and the "ANCYL" in the SAME sentence is CRIMINAL...

      Steyts - 2011-09-11 08:36

      Why is it unacceptable?? Anyone can be investigated by them at any time doesn't matter who you are!! BY saying it is unacceptable it is like saying we are above the law and no-one may investigate us... Ridiculous!!

  • JMan - 2011-09-09 14:15

    So the people burning shirts in the name of the ANCYL and Malema in front of the media are now suddenly "agent provocateurs"...? What a joke.

      Arsenefaithful - 2011-09-10 08:25

      conspiracies showcase the lowest form of wit and the ability to shy away from the truth by always bemoaning something that is not there infuriates me. ""agent provocateurs"?... my god. I hate the ANCYL so much.

  • iamasouthafr - 2011-09-09 14:15

    What is it like being on the receiving end for a change.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-09 14:17

    Shame! Sounds like whining to me. Bunch of Sissies!

      Jon JJ - 2011-09-09 14:30

      I really hope the SPCA doesn't get involved to protect them....

  • flange - 2011-09-09 14:17

    The chicks are calling fowl..

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:19

      The ANCYL are all a bunch of little teenage girls. Cowards and lazy. Want everything for nothing. Eish, e gravy train !!!

      Theresa - 2011-09-09 15:34

      They're a bunch of drama queens.With the emphasise on QUEENS!

  • blog24 - 2011-09-09 14:18

    shame they not liking being interrogated, well that whats happens to criminals they get interograted when been investigated. Now they are sorry, why did they not sort out their babaric supporters on the day??? cause they are so barbaric they can not be controlled. The ANC must expell the lot of them and shut down the ANCYL for good!!!!!

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      Kenno - 2011-09-09 15:33

      Dont give them idea's!!!

  • abg100 - 2011-09-09 14:19

    Oh blah! Another story and attempt for people to think they are being intimidated. As for the burning of t shirts-their attempt at feigned disgust is a joke! actually the ancyl are a BIG joke in total. Maybe it was some bloody agents calling to interrogate them?????

      Together - 2011-09-09 15:31

      Would everybody who has been harassed or threatened by the youth league over the last five years like to stand up?

      tryanything - 2011-09-10 06:21

      Reminds me of the 1960s and 70s Security police. Not much has changed.

  • Peanut - 2011-09-09 14:19

    Have some of your own medicine!

  • Rusty - 2011-09-09 14:20

    Kick the fat bastard and his thugs out of the ANC.

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:22

      VIVA !!! KICK THEM OUT !!! and off the ANC gravy train. These little children of the ANCYL must learn to work hard for a living. Not mahala !!!

  • PB - 2011-09-09 14:20

    You are toooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a bunch of ill-disciplined hooligans on the take. Chances of you being 'innocent' is zero, so stop playing so lilly-white, it does not suit you

      iamasouthafr - 2011-09-09 14:25

      Ya - you tell the ANCYL.... - 2011-09-09 15:28

      they cant play lilly-white - more like black babarians

      tryanything - 2011-09-10 06:23

      And why do they name their kids 'Innocent' When 'Guilty' is easier to write????

  • Tokkel Loshi - 2011-09-09 14:21

    Bogom Bogom ,,,

  • Jason - 2011-09-09 14:21

    It's okay for the ANCYL to harass everybody else - but they complain when it happens to them. I can't imagine the chaos they'll cause if Julius and his gang are expelled.

      Beannie - 2011-09-09 15:17

      Just get ready to arrest them and chuck them in jail immediately.

      Together - 2011-09-09 15:32

      But, can you imagine the chaos that the other 45 million South Africans will cause if they stay? Either they need to obey the rules of their organisation or start their own. That's how real life works.

  • Mike777 - 2011-09-09 14:22

    Siestog, shame, F-off. Kry vir julle!!

  • koeln - 2011-09-09 14:23

    not nice to be on the receiving end of intimidation for a change. get used to it. you lost all support and sympathy.

  • Bok Fan - 2011-09-09 14:23

    Stop whining you ideologically flentergat bunch of @3$%&^. You wanted a revolution you got a revolution. Dont cry now cos you can see your aarses without a mirror.

      Ntombi-Zuma - 2011-09-09 15:17

      Up the Boks

  • Fedup - 2011-09-09 14:23

    National Leadership of the ANCYL has to speak for Malema, ouch that must be hurting the idiot.

  • Gary - 2011-09-09 14:24

    Dish it out but cant take it, shows you the level of intelligence that they can even complain about it, or maybe just short term memory loss

  • IC1 - 2011-09-09 14:25

    Couldn't happen to a nicer crowd of cretins. Lol, they talking crap, they just looking for attention again. FU ANCYL'ers, go play in the sandpit or tend to your fathers herd

  • Dylan - 2011-09-09 14:26

    Rather send in the SPCA and put them all down.

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:32

      Best suggestion I've heard all year. Only one way to get of this ANCYL rot !!! Someone should organise a national ANCYL convention. Get them all in one place at the same time. Then ... well, you get the idea ...

      asitis - 2011-09-10 08:15

      yeah, all you need do is offer free cheeekeeen

  • Wyn - 2011-09-09 14:26

    Bloody agents are everywhere!

      Ntombi-Zuma - 2011-09-09 15:16

      Where to run ........? - 2011-09-09 15:32

      Where to run -easy zimbabwe,libya and dont forget botswana where they can topple the government and rule .... hahahaja idiots without an education

  • Terminusest - 2011-09-09 14:27

    Well here's some additional harassment - get a job you layabout, and stop living off government handouts you lazy parasite.

  • Slapper - 2011-09-09 14:32

    Makes a change from them harassing everyone else.

  • kagisho - 2011-09-09 14:33

    The ANCYL will make sure that they shield their name,even they are the ones that are doing bad things in the streets.

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:37

      Huh? What you say? Shield who's name? I think you are agreeing then that the toi toi ANCYL are troublemakers and must be shot ??? Excellent idea kagisho!

  • letsee - 2011-09-09 14:34

    Harrassed? But isn't that what they do to others?

  • Slartibartfast - 2011-09-09 14:34

    The "Third Force" RULES!!

  • SabaticalG - 2011-09-09 14:36

    Love it "bloody agents" for real hahahaha

  • Taurus 11 - 2011-09-09 14:36

    If they are innocent what is the fuss. Could it be that the video evidence shows them actually throwing the bricks and burning the tee shirt. Did they not ask for identification or is the normal Bullsh1t from ANCYL - 2011-09-09 15:35

      correct. use the video and arrest the 'third force' _SIMPLE (no ANCYL supporters will be charged...... Ho Ho Ho (needs a christmas laugh)

      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-09 16:12

      Anybody that was not ANCYL was chased away You mean ANCYL the TURD force

  • NOB - 2011-09-09 14:37

    They're common f@cking thugs!! Harasment should be the least of their worries!!

  • Sharkie - 2011-09-09 14:37

    Wow - just like the ol Apartheid days ne? Maybe now you can really claim to be struggle heros.....

  • James - 2011-09-09 14:40

    A government National Intelligence Agency is an impossibility when the ANC are in charge and lacking the required levels of intelligence to implement one.

      Cedric - 2011-09-09 17:03

      i agree,two things that dont work hand in hand...arrogance and stupidity. the anc and its sibblings dont have the mental capacity to be both....can only be one or the other.....i lean towards stupidity

  • merlincpt - 2011-09-09 14:42

    Some of their own medicine!!

  • Slartibartfast - 2011-09-09 14:44

    Hmmmm I just have one quick question ... can it truly be said that "the organisation" (sic) truly condemned something where (a) senior leader(s) of said "organisation" (sic) have been proven to have been intimitaly involved in the planning and payment of and for same something? Hmmmmm ....

  • Miguel - 2011-09-09 14:44

    They are doing there job, just because you to scared they find out how corrupt you are you say its "So for these unmarked people to interrogate and intimidate members and leaders of the ANC Youth League is totally misplaced, uncalled for and unacceptable." shiut up and let them do there job, GO NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE

  • Scotty - 2011-09-09 14:46

    "Early hours of the morning" is probably before 10:00 for them.

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:51

      I'd say around 9:30, same time as their local shebeen opens, and half an hour later than their local Chicken Licken. - 2011-09-09 15:38

      10am - but use india time it will be 1:30pm (sounds more correct)

  • StanTheCaddy - 2011-09-09 14:46

    National Intelligence... LOL

  • 2shy2call - 2011-09-09 14:46

    On Sunday at Mofolo Park Soweto during Soweto Carnival we had a bunch of ANCYL members in full YL T-Shirt and Berets driving a Black Golf Velocity and a BMW 3 series. They were the ones who were NIA provoking and swearing at people. It was insults all the way. What are they saying about that? saying they are fighting for Our Economic Freedom. Yo.

      Together - 2011-09-09 15:35

      It actually just resembles a gang. Sorry, just not good enough for SA's kids - they are worth much more than this.

  • sarecen - 2011-09-09 14:47

    we hate the ancyl, bunch of hero wanna bees, shame that you guys were born just to late to be real freedom fighters and real militants, now your just labeled as criminals

  • Coconut - 2011-09-09 14:47

    Harassed ????? The whole upper echelons of the ANCYL should be thrown into jail and made to pay for all the damage that they have caused. Cry Babies the whole lot of them, they just are not man enough to be able to absorb criticism.

      RonJ - 2011-09-09 14:50

      Because the ANCYL are little uneducated children, they cannot apply maturing or rational reason to any debate/argument. They are still immature little children and cannot accept other points of view. Typical little children the ANCYL are.

  • WinnieThePoo - 2011-09-09 14:48

    Shame, would you like a warm bottle with that?

  • concerned - 2011-09-09 14:49

    GOOD, I LIKE IT!!!!!! Some of ur own medicine!!!!

  • vanommen.jan - 2011-09-09 14:49

    Bloody agents!

  • Kev - 2011-09-09 14:53

    Any time you make kak, just blame the "third force" that way its never your fault.

  • The Observer - 2011-09-09 14:55

    The ANCYL condemns this kind of intimidation and harassment by these unmarked people, because we do not know what their real intentions are and whether they are legitimate officers of the South African state," the ANCYL said in a statement. Dumb Fu..k, ask their badges. Are you really that stupid ancyl???? In any case you made your bed so sleep in it. You deserve all the harassment coming your way. Love this hehehehe

  • ratex - 2011-09-09 14:59

    have you guys noticed something with this thread. No comments from tshepo, polony, kolobe, ziso or any of the other test tube babies? Yo where you lot at?

      Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-09 15:03

      Yeah wow Ratex... I noticed a little too late, but hey... Can't really blame them... I mean, what do u expect from an uneducated bunch like them. You forgetting komosa... lol

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-11 01:22

      maybe they are being interogated

  • Gavin - 2011-09-09 15:00

    shame the african national yuseless league are being harassed by their own reflections....

  • Helper - 2011-09-09 15:01

    ha ha ha. politics emzansi is realy no kids games.

  • LaVie - 2011-09-09 15:04

    Are these the same hooligans who wanted to harass the Botswana government? Shame, give these little 'wannabe' politicians some clean nappies. If you want to pee with the big dogs you must be able to lift your leg...

  • bublebee4506 - 2011-09-09 15:07

    together they all have big mouthes...but individually they are nothing....

  • Fran - 2011-09-09 15:08

    The thing about the mojority of this country that I am certain of is that the ANCYL is not needed. We will never embrace people who insult their parents and grandparents like the ANCYL does. They are suppose to be in school preaprin to be better leaders of the next generation and not be bought by airheards like Malema, Shivambu and all. I mean Shivamba just had a child born recently, does he really want his child to grow up hearing him say what he says when talking to media or any where for that matter? Does Malema's son gets locked up in a sound proof room when his father is on Tv insulting the Thabo Mbekis and Zuma that he calls his leaders, well until recently. Is he teaching his son to sing kill that kill the boer song? Please, ANCYL must go and rot because we don't needs them for the future of this country. We need people who have clear heads and who make sound decisions even when they are being provoked. After all, this is a country of 50millions South Africans but not some 50 thousand youth league members.