ASA dismisses anti-Israel ad on 5FM

2011-07-07 15:35

Cape Town - The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has dismissed complaints against a radio commercial for SA Artists Against Apartheid broadcast on radio station 5FM.

The commercial features the voice of Dave Randall, lead singer of the dance group Faithless.

He says: "Hi, I’m Dave Randall from Faithless. Twenty years ago I would not have played in apartheid South Africa, today I refuse to play in Israel.

"Be on the right side of history. Don’t entertain apartheid. Join the international boycott of Israel. I support"

The SA Jewish Board of Deputies and other consumers complained, among other things, that the commercial was unclear as to the identity of the advertiser, and was untrue and not supported by any evidence to verify the implied claim that Israel was an apartheid state.

Truth and facts

Another complaint was that the band compared Israel to an apartheid state and that this was factually incorrect and irresponsible.

The ASA ruled that it was apparent Randall was voicing support for a cause known as SA Artists Against Apartheid, and that the advertising appeared at the instance of that organisation or cause.

It was also clear from the commercial that it was the opinion of Randall. He said, among other things, “I would not have played... ”, “Today I refuse... ”, and “I support...”

While he might very well be drawing a possible analogy between apartheid South Africa and Israel, he was clearly doing so in his capacity and as the face for the “artists against apartheid” cause.

The commercial therefore communicated an opinion, not a fact, and as such should not be held to the same criteria for substantiation as general, efficacy or otherwise claims that were communicated as facts.

Matter of opinion

The commercial was clearly expressing a personal view shared not only by Randall, but also by SA Artists Against Apartheid.

"It goes without saying that the call for support is aimed at like-minded people, who share this view. This is significant in that the commercial is clearly aimed at generating discussion amid the controversy.

"With this in mind, it stands to reason that the people who are likely to be offended by this commercial are likely to hold the view that the current situation and action in Israel is justifiable.

"It is not for the Directorate to proclaim as to which political ideals or actions are justifiable, or to base this decision on whether or not the actions in Israel are legitimate would be a fallacy."

Thus, the complaints were dismissed.

  • Astaroth - 2011-07-07 15:42


      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:05

      krush thats exactly what the apartheit regime told us

      Independent Address - 2011-07-07 16:09

      @Krush what do you mean "build up a nation"? A nation is defined as a group sharing common values, background etc. The Jews are a nation, Israel is a piece of land that was given to them by the UN without the concession of it's inhabitants... not "built up"

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:13

      astoroth.have some juice

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-07-07 16:17

      "The palestinians are just like the ANC members here in south africa - wait until you've built up a nation and then they want to take over only to destroy it again" Uhm, they've been fighting for Israel since it was nothing. You're just saying that to get reader sympathy

      michaelx - 2011-07-07 16:21


      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:22

      why it dirty

      RacingShark - 2011-07-07 16:37

      AT Krush, oh u mean when Israel stole the land from Palestinians the same way the previous apartheid regime stole land from Non whites??

      De_La_Rey - 2011-07-07 16:40

      APARTHEID IS FINISHED. GET ON WITH IT NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:45

      and de la rey is dead

      Valis - 2011-07-07 17:31

      Krush, you are lying through your teeth. Israel is by FAR the mightiest military power in the Middle East. Add to that the unwavering support of the US, the mightiest military power in history. AND Israel is the only country with nuclear weapons, over 200 warheads! Are you seriously suggesting that the Arab nations with their aging military is going to dare risk an attack on mighty Israel? You're just pushing the same old narrative of poor little Israel surrounded by hostile natives who are armed to the teeth! Pull the other one, it's got bells on... PS. Please change your avatar, it's offensive.

      ZACommentator - 2011-07-07 19:59

      100 Percent True. Well done but the Jews will be cross

      james4usa - 2011-07-07 22:18

      See "Real Zionist News"

      Adam - 2011-07-07 23:11

      @valis - your logic is right excpet that they have attacked israel in the past and no one would be suprised if they did it again.... think about this... the way the world sees things isnt quite straight, any where in the world the smaller weaker nation can act how they want because they will always have the support of people like you despite the fact they caused the trouble in the first place. just because a nation or a person for that matter is weaker does not give them the right to to be the aggressor. if anything they have an added responsibility to not be the aggressor as they would be placing the mightier retaliatory in a corner to act defensively - wich the world (and your buddy julius) have managed to understand as bloodthirsty war tactics take a step back and review the situation you will see it better

      Zionist - 2011-07-08 06:05

      The world is a fickle place -- Anti-Semitism hasn't gone away; it's merely morphed into hatred of Israel. The Jews will never be "loved". The world will love the Jews greatly were they to roll over and die, and that is not going to happen. I'm with Machiavelli -- it is far, far better to be feared than to be loved.

      nduk'zempi - 2011-07-08 09:30

      Krush u r spot on,I wouldnt like to live by the stone age mohammedan laws.Bible or Koran,easy I choose the Bible any day,it is the only inspired word of God,Israel has a right to defend itself and god how i wish they wud nuke Iran.The english have england,dutch have holland,zulus have zululand(well sort of),the jews MUST have Israel,they were there first then persecuted and exiled for more than 2000yrs,finally they came home and reclaimed whats rightfully theirs.Meir Kahane was right and Baruch Goldstein is a hero.

      nvl - 2011-07-08 12:03

      De la Rey, you are wrong I think Apartheid  never ended it is really only in it's infancy. When they say redistribution i wonder if they mean redistribution of apartheid?  Probably..well in that case it will be nice to have you as my fellow neighbour as we all will become shack dwellers.

      TBOOZE - 2011-07-08 12:13

      is this the same johncarlos.biza who takes 10 cm anaconda on his back? no disrespect man ,now sit down and pee

  • aaron - 2011-07-07 15:50

    VIVA ASA Viva Artist against apartheid

      Zionist - 2011-07-08 06:12

      Do freedom fighters deliberately attack school buses? Do freedom fighters slit the throats of sleeping families? Do freedom fighters stab innocent people who are just waiting for a bus? Do freedom fighters hurl boulders at moving cars? Do freedom fighters keep shooting missiles while the retaliation by Israel hurts their civilians more then anyone else? Hamas uses the dead as propaganda… that is why they fire missiles from school yards, UN building and Mosques. They know Israel will defend her citizens – and the retaliation is used as bonus points in the media. Whatever depraved and genetically compromised individuals such as the Palestinian may call it, the rest of the world calls it terrorism. This is War not Apartheid. The Palestinians voted for war by voting for Hamas. They made their bed – now they sleeping in it. Israel will be here waiting for them if they ever choose peace rather then violence to reach their goals. Israel wants peace – while Hamas wants to fall in the name of religion.

      Wonderboy - 2011-07-08 08:18

      @ Zionist The answer to your first question is Yes. That is exactly what the cowardly scum do.

  • willieman - 2011-07-07 15:53

    Please give us a new thing 1948 to date

  • Krush - 2011-07-07 15:54

    Poor guy. I don't want to be him when I die.

      johncarlos.biza - 2011-07-07 16:19

      I don't think he'll lose any sleep over your opinion

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:23

      can you be more specific john

      willieman - 2011-07-07 16:23

      Is there a difference between a Jew and an Israeli,which one are you

      Liberty - 2011-07-07 16:53

      @johncarlos I wouldn't lose any sleep about his opinion either, and in fact I couldn't care less where he plays or doesn't. @willieman what's the difference between a Xhosa and a South African? Which one are you?

      Peter Smith - 2011-07-08 09:42

      Can one be anyone else than oneself? living or dying? so you needn't fear. you won't suddenly turn into him when you die...

  • MIM128 - 2011-07-07 15:54

    Some sections of the Jew community are so ready to protect Israel against any critism. If Israel is so "holy", why dont you go and stay there? We dont need you here

      Krush - 2011-07-07 15:59

      I would love to live there! Israel is an awesome country with many highly intellectual people. Unfortunately, if you had common sense, you would know people cannot just get and go somewhere as it requires LOTS OF MONEY. Secondly I'm not Jewish/Israeli. Logic is clearly not your strong point. Then again, neither is common sense.

      Niren - 2011-07-07 16:01

      What a daft comment ! You need an education.

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:08

      wht then do you fly the flag of israel,krush

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 16:18

      Krush if you had common sense you would not be a Jew, becuase Jewism is against Jesus, as they say he never came. The talmud teaches that he was was lair and deceiver and an enemy of the "jews". If only people knew the history and the false translations from the original texts. There is no such word as Gentile, let me explain Goy means nation, Etnos also means nation but in our Bibles it says Gentiles! Gentiles are derived from the latin word Gentiles which means one who is not a roman Citizen, Thus gentiles was never used by any of the original Bible writers!!!!!!!!!! Only in the 4th century was the word more losely used and later used to refered to people of Pagan believes! The Jews are a mongrol nation from Egyptions, Babelonians, Cananites, Edomites and Khazars! and cannot be true Juda as Israel was banned to intermix with these nations! But you wont know this because you dont know your bible! The state of Israel is a parasite! And now the true "Judeans" are suffering because of this false masquerade!!!

      customdesign - 2011-07-07 16:39

      Eugene Smit- I think you are reading the wrong bible my China- get out of that cult where you find yourself in- it will ruin you- but I suppose you think you are one of those long lost tribes of Israel- what a joke. As for South Africans against apartheid- it is people rehashing the same old crap because they cant hack it in the world today. It's really pathetic- apartheid is long gone and people are still crying, so much so that the majority in our country needs special privileges because they cant make it, and now the next step is land and business expropriation without paying for it. I think another word for it is stealing.

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 17:00

      cult? Christianity is a cult but im not going to argue with you, since you "are to clever to learn" or actually know nothing about your history or Bible i will leave you to watch tv and let your Church lie to you further You must be part of the Roman catholic, NG Chruch or these new "pray for money" "feel good" Churches which our own Bible warned us about. To tell you the truth all the true Christians lifes was ruined by their believe look at the apostles. So if you are happy with your half hearted believe against the laws of the Bible, you are doing something wrong! All of the best!

      Liberty - 2011-07-07 17:20

      @eugene about 99% of us are a mongrel race. I am not Jewish but I like Jews. Many of them mover and shakers and go-getters. People like Hamas keep on attacking the Jews and when the Jews retaliates people like you are up in arms. Jews have to be vigilant to maintain their security. We all know what happened during WWII, and Iran, Syria and Egypt that wants nothing more than to see the Jews destroyed. I personally back their "apartheid" like policy to keep the Palestinians separate if they can't behave themselves. This Jews have a legitimate claim to be there which is recognized by the UN. If the damn Hamas wants to kill their people because they don't like it, I say Israel blow them to hell!

      Monacoroyals - 2011-07-08 05:58

      Maybe you should leave back to pakistan? Maybe they should take all the business with them and leave us with more unemployment and crime. I work for a Jewish owned business - and might I add they treat me better then your kind (cause I can guess who you are very easily like so many of the discussing comments here)) I know allot about them, they might be a small group of people - but they produce tons of jobs in the private sector & support families of millions of non Jewish South Africans. companies like Discovery, Bidvest, Pick n Pay, Nando's, Investec, bluelabel and hundreds hundreds more... the longer I work here the more I realise how brilliant these people are in business and what a pro they are to the South African economy. Around the world they spearhead the great economies of the world - and I for one would rather have them here then you... Your logic is the same as Cosatu, the Toll roads, and Eskom's thievery – the total destruction of SA. Well done mm128 cut your nose to spite your face...

      Zionist - 2011-07-08 06:31

      Thanks Monaco – im sure you will appreciate this REALLY PRACTICAL INVENTIONS: Jeans, Lipstick, the Ballpoint Pen, Contraceptives, Instant Coffee, Television Remote Control, Traffic Lights, Scotchguard, the Flexistraw. REALLY BIG INVENTIONS: The Atomic Bomb, the Thermonuclear Bomb, Genetic Engineering, the Nuclear Chain Reactor, Virtual Reality. CULTURAL CONTRIBUTIONS: Hollywood, the Sit-Com, the Long Playing Record, Woodstock, Sound Movies, Videotape, Colour Television, Instant Photography, Holography GAME CHANGERS: Monotheism, Psychoanalysis, the Theory of Relativity, the Weekend (Shabbat) INVENTIONS BEGINNING WITH THE LETTER “C’: Capitalism, Communism, Circumcision, Cheesecake, Cafeterias

      Zionist - 2011-07-08 06:32

      NEVER BUY RETAIL: Discount Stores, Pawn Shops, the Shopping Cart and the Ready-to-Wear Clothing Industry I FEEL BETTER ALREADY: Prozac, Valium, The Polio Vaccine, Radiation, Chemotherapy, the Artificial Kidney Dialysis machine, the Defibrillator, the Cardiac Pacemaker, Vaccination against the deadly “Hepatitis B” virus, the Vaccinating Needle, Laser Technology CHAI TECH: Google, the Wire Transmission Facsimilie (FAX) , the Microphone, the Gramophone, the Microprocessing Chip, Optical Fiber Cable, Laser, Cellular Technology, the Videotape Recorder HOW DID WE LIVE WITHOUT THESE?: Drip Irrigation, Scale Model Electric Trains, the Pager, the Walkie-talkie, Refrigerated Railroad Car, High-vacuum Electron Tubes, the Incandescent Lamp, Kodachrome Film, the Blimp, the Adding Machine, Stainless Steel, Tapered Roller Bearings. A NOBLE PEOPLE: At least 178 Jews have been awarded the Nobel Prize, accounting for 23% of all individual recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2008. In the scientific research fields of Chemistry, Economics, Medicine and Physics, the corresponding world (Jews currently make up approximately 0.25% of the world’s population).

      nduk'zempi - 2011-07-08 09:45

      @MIM128,u r a sick moron mr numbers gangs.@eugenesmit ur antisemitic rants are not appreciated in this forum.The Hamas and Hezbollah r terrorist organizations and desrve to be treated as such.

  • Independent Address - 2011-07-07 15:54

    Good... Israel is practically a Western feeder state and it's occupation of Palestinian territory and subsequent treatment of its people should not be condoned. Well done ASA for not injecting emotion into the ruling

      Stoffel - 2011-07-07 16:05

      The isreallits were there long before the Palestines. So wat is your story about

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 16:20

      Stoffel, you are incorrect. The REAL Israelite where there long before Palestinians. These mixed nations from all around the world are nothing but murderous deceivers! When Jesus returns HE will collect his nation with his angels!

      Independent Address - 2011-07-07 16:25

      @Stoffel, The primary basis for that claim is that God promised that land to Abraham... Now I'm not one for religion determining land rights, but even if it were true (and it's my opinion that the claims are in fact baseless) it still shouldn't be a way to condone the mass human rights violations that exist in the region

      mecan - 2011-07-08 06:21

      What are your smoking Independent? The land belonged to the Jews 2000 years before Islam was born, then the Romans controlled the land then the Ottomans took over, then the British who handed it over to the UN who divided the land. The Arabs went to war. The Arab world told Muslims on the land to leave so they could wipe out the Jews. The Arabs lost the war (Israel did not kick out anyone) and the rest is history. The only people ‘kicked’ out were the Jews. who got kicked out of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Saudi, Lebanon, Tunisia, Syria and Yemen... The Pal lost their return note when the Arab world told them to leave... so they can take up any one of the empty spots the "Jew" left for you anywhere in the countries above. Lastly, I trust you understand that the TRUE Palestinians are the Jews. The Arabs co-opted the name (and the identity) in 1966. I remind you that during the Mandatory period, the British referred to Jews as "Palestinians." The Arabs were just always referred to as "Arabs." During World War Two, when the call went out to form a Palestine Brigade, the only people who signed up were -- you guessed it -- Jews. The Arabs were aligned with the Nazis, in case you didn't know.

  • Shrek - 2011-07-07 15:57

    Artist against apartheid??? What about Zimbabwe and the rest of Africa??? Israel is just the flavour of the month> Just another "cool" move

      Roman Moroni - 2011-07-08 06:17

      Now you're talking Shrek - give the man a Johnnie Walker Blue!!! The first bit of common sense on this thread - you cut it to the bone. When this guy and his friends refused to play in Apartheid South Africa, they gladly played in Australia even though the Aboriginal folks also did not have the vote up to about 1975. Who cares about artists opinions in any case - they will jump on any bandwagon for a bit of publicity like old Bones.

      mecan - 2011-07-08 07:24

      “Aisha Mohamed, 5FM Station Manager” No, im sorry, I am not surprised by this fact either, and no i am no racist like you want to call me

  • TheBestMan - 2011-07-07 15:58

    Now who wouldve thunk?

  • Niren - 2011-07-07 15:59 an advert against the Arabs and ASA will condemn/ban it. I am sure of that.

      Niren - 2011-07-07 16:07

      Malema and his ANC cronies support Gadafi and the Arab regime, hence this ruling.

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:35

      so did the americans niren

  • slojam - 2011-07-07 15:59

    Shame! The truth hurts so much! Now bring on all the comments... *YAWN* :P Viva ASA Viva! Viva 5FM Viva!

  • Gardener - 2011-07-07 16:01

    Israel will miss Dave Randall soooooo much!! Leave Israel alone, they have done buggerall to any South African!

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:09

      they did support the apartheit regime

      ikabot - 2011-07-07 16:09

      Didn't Israel help Apartheid South Africa to develop its atomic bomb? Didn't this hurt South Africans?

      Independent Address - 2011-07-07 16:12

      That's true, but South Africans care about what Israel does to other people... Maybe that respect for human rights has something to do with what we've been through as a country? Just maybe...

      Liberty - 2011-07-07 17:36

      @jowza Israel helped protect the Afrikaaner interests the way that the commies protected your interest by supplying Limpid mines and AK47'sto blow up Wimpy bars and shoot our people. Isrealies are friends of the Afrikaaner and I support them 100%

      Azizi - 2011-07-07 21:52

      @liberty Not surprised your alias says it all. Change your flag.

      Liberty - 2011-07-08 04:29

      I like my flag

  • scott - 2011-07-07 16:03

    @Krush I dont want to be a jew when I die, they killed Jesus.!!!!

      Niren - 2011-07-07 16:05

      Thought the Romans did.

      King Solomon - 2011-07-07 16:17

      What a puerile comment.

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:21

      you been reading the dictionery today.king fable

      John - 2011-07-07 16:26

      Well if he didn't die for your sins, you'd be going to hell like the rest of us.

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 16:27

      No the false Jews did! fro Idumea "greek meaning Edom" which accepted the religion 120bc in Kings. They followed him to look for an excuse to kill him! When he was in the garden he prayed NOT TO FORGIVE THOSE WHO planned to kill him!...The Romans who was part of the lost tribes didnt know what they where doing but they found no fault with the man and was forced to kill Jesus, and he said "forgive them fot they know not what they are doing". How could he pray dont forgive them and then forgive them? this is a lie from your own Churches!!!! Just like the "tradition of the elders" or "Talmud" as u know it today told them they may do. This is the reason Jesus rebuked them for following these manly laws as its a mongrolization as themselves of the law of moses. For if they have you kill some one the blood is not on their hands! People assume Jews mean Juda, that is false! Juda was one of the 12 tribes of Israel, the 10 tribes was taken away and moved through the Caucation mountains after their captivity as the Bible says and they did not return, thus being called caucations!

      Mad Hatter - 2011-07-07 16:31

      How can they kill someone , no-one can prove existed.

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 16:32

      Mad hatter its easy to see you are another lemmings... everything you are told you believe, you must watch tv allot?

      Jeffrey Jones - 2011-07-07 16:36

      Actually the Romans killed him, Jews condemned people to death by stoning, Romans crucified people. Anyway, he's been dead these last 2000 years. There is no such race as "Palestinians" and no such place as Palestine. Arabs and muslims hate the Jews because the Jews have shown them up to be the dross of humanity.

      eugene smit - 2011-07-07 16:41

      omw are you blind? They told the Romans to kill him because they wanted to make him suffer and it must of been done this way so that the Bible could be fulfilled. Yes the romans did kill him because........... They got the romans to do their dirty work for them, because in the talmud it says then they are not responsible.... PLEASE go study before you type nonsense like this!

      Keyser Söze - 2011-07-07 16:43

      @jowza - maybe you should read the dictionAry, then you'd know how to spell.

      jowza - 2011-07-07 16:49

      why have you got two moles over your o

      Kydek - 2011-07-08 03:13

      As a sinner Jesus died for me, so if you want to blame someone blame me.

  • balderdash - 2011-07-07 16:46

    Gosh, Dave Randall... The Israelis will really miss you.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-07-07 17:36

    The knee-jerk morons in the Jewish community needs to calm the f*ck down and realise there are differing opinions on what's going on in the middle east. It's called free speech

      Zionist - 2011-07-08 06:38

      Its no longer free speech when you add fuel to a fire that has already taken so many lives on both sides. Sometimes careless speech is attempted murder.

  • st14338637 - 2011-07-07 17:47

    I'm for Israel to be honest - Uncle Arafat saw to that

  • st14338637 - 2011-07-07 17:47

    I'm for Israel to be honest - Uncle Arafat saw to that

  • Kleinjan - 2011-07-07 18:15

    SA Artists Against Apartheid... Are they frikkin serious???? What about SA Artists Against King Henry V or SAAA the Roman Empire or SAAA the Third Reich?????

      willieman - 2011-07-08 11:41

      Are you still kleinjan

  • shatzi - 2011-07-07 19:15

    faithless is a crap band anyway

  • Realist72 - 2011-07-07 20:17

    Strange just how everyone just like to bash Israel. Their not the one's killing/planning to kill men, women and children in buses, subways, restaurants etc. Islam and all the countries around Israel wants to destroy Israel and the Jewish people. Wake up! In the middle east there's a saying: "First comes Saturday, then Sunday" - First destroy the Jews, then the Christians ... This whole "Palestine" nonsense is just a facade to drum up support and further their cause. And more on topic: Ironic how someone from an ex-band called 'FAITHLESS' is taken seriously on this type of topic.

  • Azizi - 2011-07-07 21:33

    Krush there is a difference between Zionists and Jews. The Palestinians live under Israels laws whats the difference?

      Adam - 2011-07-07 23:24

      @azizi - please dont ever differantiate between jews and zionists, every jew(bar a few physco lunatics wich exist in every religion and race) knows that the land of israel is deeply entrenched in the jewish religion. unlike the quaran wich does not mention jerusalem once, the jewish holy book the torah mentions it directly too many times to mention. this understanding of jews and zionists is a creation to undermine how important the land of israel is to the jewish people. there is a reason when invading arab armies attacked israel on several occasions jews from around the world, from south africa to brazil to the united states to australia, have stopped there lives to go and defend there country with there lives. despite the propoganda you may have received, the defention of a zionist is someone who os dedicated the preservation of israel as a jewish state. so please dont ever think there is a difference between being a jew and a zionist, and please dont ever think that either one is something someone would ever consider being ashamed of.

  • DoublySalmon - 2011-07-07 21:35

    I fully support Israel. They have the right to self-determination and the neighboring country only wants to steal from them in the same way the homelands wanted and now have stolen from South Africa.

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  • Bloed - 2011-07-07 22:24

    Before you critisize the Jews - Just remember Jesus is a Jew.

  • Dries - 2011-07-08 08:23

    NEWS 24, when did "ASA dismisses anti-Israel ad on 5FM" What a silly headline. ASA never ever dismissed the ad. English is understood differently by us and your editor, it seems.

      Peter Smith - 2011-07-08 09:36

      totally. this happens so often, i suspect that they intentionally make mistakes in the headlines in order to make the article more sensational and likely to be read.

  • Yusuf - 2011-07-08 09:14

    Werent the Jews the ones who sold out Jesus ?

  • Peter Smith - 2011-07-08 09:19

    What terrible and misleading editing of the title of this piece (as usual). The ASA did not dismiss the anti-Israel ad, they dismissed COMPLAINTS AGAINST the ad.

  • Peter Smith - 2011-07-08 09:40

    A more substantive comment: why are objections to the political actions and motivations of the Israeli government always tarred as "anti-Semitic"? There is a vast difference between objecting to the decisions and political stances of that government and opposition to the Jewish religion. (Except, apparently, in the minds of many Israelis/Jewish activists). I have no quarrel with the Jewish faith in general nor with the Jewish individuals i have had the fortune of getting to know, but I do disagree quite vehemently with the decisions and positions of the Government of Israel. Nor does this imply that the violent Palestinian movements are innocent victims. Indefensible atrocities are committed by both sides with depressing regularity. The problem is that a small minority of politically powerful individuals make decisions that lead to desire for revenge or retribution among the general public, which pits normal decent civilians on both sides against each other, leading to near irreconcilable hatred (possibly encouraged as a strategic means to an end). Without Mandela-like figures on both sides that bring messages exclusively of reconciliation the conflict will only escalate. The leaders on both sides are criminally responsible for this as individuals, not as members of their respective religions.

  • Lestor - 2011-07-09 13:36

    He doesn't play in Israel... its almost like he is suggesting people want them to but they refuse, I doubt anyone in Israel even knows who they are. Hell I have never heard of them.

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