AfriForum marches against farm attacks

2012-12-01 17:04

Johannesburg - AfriForum, local celebrities and the families of victims of farm murders marched to the office of Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa on Saturday, the civil rights group said.

Marchers read out a memorandum which demanded the prioritisation of farm murders as part of a campaign by AfriForum and Solidarity against farm attacks and to promote rural safety.

The families displayed photos of their murdered relatives and were joined by other farm attack survivors.

On Thursday, the High Court in Pretoria granted AfriForum permission to hold the march after the police ministry threatened to declare it an illegal protest.

"Farm murders are not only a crisis. They are a catastrophe," AfriForum deputy CEO Ernst Roets said in a statement.

Roets said farmers lived in unique circumstances in remote areas where the police's reaction time was slow.

Farmers were killed in large numbers and even tortured while the government and the department of police refused to acknowledge that there was a crisis, he said.

On Saturday, Beeld newspaper reported that 94-year-old Maria Barnard was burnt with a warm frying pan, while her 74-year-old son Hekkie was killed in the attack on their farm in Brits, North West.

Her 62-year-old son Nico Barnard was shot in the stomach and Nico jnr 16, was stabbed in the head.

  • Meister01 - 2012-12-01 17:11

    Let's forget about rhinos for a while and save the human from barbarians.

      sani.ghana.3 - 2012-12-01 20:00

      South africa is a killing field and we all fear for our life and i feel sorry for thes farmers, eugeen gave these whites a bad name, i have many white friends and my heart will bleed when they are killed like this, we must forget these things we must have more love and work together against these criminals

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-01 22:14

      @semon... Tedious - seem you are in need of attention. None of your replies on any articles on News24 are intelligent or constructive... Go and play with your toes under a tree in Polokwane!

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-12-02 01:37

      semonatenate, Did you eat today?? If yes thank a farmer. Now imagine the crisis that South Africa would be plunged into if all farmers stopped farming for a year!!!! Then it wouldn't be aids that would kill you but starvation!!

      jack.milano.104 - 2012-12-02 09:44 If your employer doesn't give you the bonus you think you deserve, is it OK to torture him and his family? These killings are committed by racist militias.

  • kingsley.mgidi - 2012-12-01 17:12

    new south africa!

      sani.ghana.3 - 2012-12-01 20:07

      I do not want a new south africa where all the answers are those of violence and killing, its not just these white farmers we are all killed for small things. I am not a racist so I can not speak well of the farmer killings, we have no more love in thes country

  • lucille.cupido.399 - 2012-12-01 17:14

    This need media coverage hope all the news channels was informed. This need to happen regular. Crime is out of control in the country.

      patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-12-01 18:25

      Not on TV news , but ANC in fighting that was main news.

  • Willie Olivier - 2012-12-01 17:18

    Hulle gaan nie rus voor die laaste een van ons dood is nie!

      rocky.bell.98 - 2012-12-01 17:47

      yandisa: Exaggerating ?? more than 3000 farmers (food providers) killed in a mere 18 years. Genocidewatch established it is already a level 6 of genocide (out of 8 levels ???????!!!!!!!!) Wake up my boy. On question to you: what would have been your reaction if whites murdered 3000+ taxidrivers, their wives an children. And remember, a substantial number of white babies/todlers, 2, 3 & 4 year old children have been excutioned with a bullet to the head. Your comments please!!

      julie.vanniekerk.3 - 2012-12-01 17:48

      Ja, die haat is daar!

      yandisa.mashalaba - 2012-12-01 18:13

      Hi Rocky- i agree with you about the seriousness of the issue. The killing of any person especially farmers, food providers, cannot be acceptable in any nation. I have experienced this myself, i lost my father in similar circumstances. However, we cannot say "they wont rest up until the last white farmer is killed" because there are various motives for these killings...some are racial; and others are not...irrespective the percentage split. What is happening in this country is not good at all. I would like to believe that poverty rather than racial hatred is a major contributing factor. At the moment, we have a government that seems to be incapable of governing this nation into prosperity. Hunger and poverty override many principles of our own being. If you ask a man that has been impoverished for generations to run multi-billion rands worth of state resources...they look after themselves first, dealing with farm murders seem to be at the bottom of the list....

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-12-01 18:16

      @yandisa.mashalaba? I agree with you! Its just a shame though, not good for anyone in this country!

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 18:39

      yandisa.mashalaba, you gave a very good answer. Your answer is not accommodating the extreme brutality, torture, rape and other horrendous methods used in the farm executions of men women and children. If hunger and poverty turns people onto the monsters who make themselves guilty of such atrocities, then mankind is in deep trouble. The poverty / hunger explanation holds no water as in most cases the kitchen and supplies are un-disturbed. Hungry people steal food! Most of the valuables are usually left behind. Mostly it is weapons, cellphones and vehicles that are taken. Mostly the vehicles are found abandoned close-by. That is compelling evidence that the farm murders are not motivated by hunger /greed. There are enough evidence to show that farm murders are politically / racially motivated. That makes farm murders a crime against humanity.

      yandisa.mashalaba - 2012-12-01 18:54

      Rebel: i'm not saying these murders are happening because people are hungry. It is because the perpetrators, in most of the cases, have nothing to loose...Poverty is like a sickness that can even affect one's moral judgement. I am pretty sure that if the majority of the people were middle/working class citizens, things would be much better. Unfortunately, you have millions of people who are living in poor conditions. That to me is a major issue, but please understand that, it is just an opinion...there are many other factors that play a role as you have earlier mentioned..such as politics; racism; revenge (in the case of evictions and dismissals)...etc

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 19:13

      yandisa.mashalaba, again tour answer lacks the body to address the extreme brutality and horror to the farm executions. In accenting the torture and horrific deaths by this class of killing, that is not dominant in non-farm killings, I am trying to show that there are much more to the extermination of whole families on our farms. Do yourself a favor and do a Google search for South African farm murders. It takes someone with a very strong stomach to view the photos of the crimes view-able on various sites.

      matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-12-01 19:40

      Chill, Willie. There's lots of uncalled for hate speech flying around here. Adding to the tension will make it worse.

      matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-12-01 19:44

      Marius, I disagree. I think greed and opportunity are to blame. The murderers might use the propaganda spewed at them to justify killing but it all comes down to greed.

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 19:55

      Matthew, in that case, why are there so little taken? The value of the items stolen is nowhere near to the brutality of the killings. What level of greed drives a criminal to torturing the victim to death? How does greed explain the killing of toddlers?

      mart.botha - 2012-12-01 21:11

      If I have fathered multiple children when I am, and have only ever been able to support 1, or with plenty of sacrifice two, who do I get to blame that my country is overflowing with 'surplus people'. If YOU have fathered more than 1 child and for whatever reason you have not been able to provide any of them with sufficient opportunities to reach adulthood with skills to enable them to be contributing members of society, the YOU sir are the root cause of everything that is wrong in this country. Your selfish and quite foolish desire for many offspring is killing this country and every other country in the world that is overpopulated. You Sir, know this is the case, and I predict that very very shortly, YOU will start taking action starting with xenophobic attacks on the countless foreigners in SA which will progress to people who are just different (culturally) to you because the only way to get a decent piece of the pie is to reduce the competition for it. How else does a civil war start

      FooFunk - 2013-01-08 10:32

      @Yandisa I dont disagree with you that hunger and poverty are fueling these events but the fact of the matter is these people are still employed were there are vast amounts of people who do not have jobs, from them I would expect this. I agree that every employer should be challenged to increase employees wages but due to unreasonable requests, social and economic constraints it just cannot be done. I dont understand it, these people at least have jobs and a roof over their heads....there has to be a happy medium but asking for double your salary is just not economically viable. Im sure if this is pushed they will simply automate their operations then that means no jobs for anyone. Now going back on topic, the mindless senseless killing of our farmers has a detrimental affect on our economy and the consequences of loosing this industry beyond bad! I cant believe that the ANC/Government what ever you want to call it can be so careless with managing this, in the end it will only hurt ALL of us. We all need to come together on this, view everyones side and opinion and stand together to come up with, so far Mr Minister you are no doing a very good does make me happy when we (all races) can discuss a topic like adults, thank you Yandisa and Co

  • daniel.rossouw1 - 2012-12-01 17:24

    Like USA has the right to bear arms, don't we get covered in our constitution by the right to defend ourselves. If so, then relax the gun laws and let us defend ourselves if our government can't.

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 18:41

      I don't think it is a case of the government can't. It is more a case of that the government won't.

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-01 22:48

      Daniel, you have the right to defend yourself. Do it then.

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-12-02 01:42

      Yeah Hein, But it is the person defending that gets into big trouble!!

  • duncan.gill1 - 2012-12-01 17:27

    We need more protests like this more often until something is done about what is happening on our farms!It just doesn't make sense that the farming communities commando's were disbanded while this is going on and then nothing is done by government to tackle this problem..go Afriforum take it to the international arena this cannot be allowed to continue!

      lucy.bush.9231 - 2012-12-01 17:32

      CORRECT.. Tell the world...This government is blind to the reality of the situation..

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-12-01 17:30

    Ag please this "Nathi Mthethwa" twat doesn't care what happens.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-01 17:53

      And he should refuse to eat anything that comes from a white farmer then.//

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-12-01 17:35

    maybe is the geogravical placement of farmers(alone and far deep in the bush) is the one putting them in jeorpady of this bloody AGENT CRIMINALS

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 18:58

      Farmers on small holdings, close to towns and cities are also being executed. Being out far in the bush should make the farmers safer as the logistics involved to launch the executions are more complex.

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2012-12-01 17:39

    Typical SAPS - complaining that the march would be illegal and issuing threats - trying to duck the issue. I wonder how much damage was done by the marchers?

      mariuskowie - 2012-12-01 19:01

      Probably the same damage as what the DA did, when Zille was accused of carting bricks by the truck load. There will be some sort of discreditation attack launched.

  • butinyana.tjamela - 2012-12-01 17:51

    This criminals they brought shame to South Africa and the police hide behind their offices,even if you go there looking for help they are rude to help,but you past them with girlfreinds and groceries in police vehicle on duty.

  • Michael - 2012-12-01 17:53

    bite the hand that feeds you, you bloody fools!!

  • matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-12-01 18:04

    Nathi Mthethwa has no regard for human life, white or black. He spends 99% of his time defending his incompetency and inability to lead the police and doesn't mind if some of those who are protesting get murdered, just like he didn't mine when the Marikana protestors were silenced.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-01 18:16

      Still Think That Farmers should back on food deliveries to the Bloem area In December..

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-01 18:18

      Hold back that is

      matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-12-01 19:09

      Good idea!

  • jason.becker.969 - 2012-12-01 18:25

    Our racist, white hating ANC government does not and will NEVER give a stuff about our farmers. As far as they're concerned farmers occupy land stolen from their ancestors and secretly pop the champagne everytime a farmer is brutally murdered. And as for the geniuses saying this wouldn't b happening if the farmers treated their workers better WAKE UP!.....if u bothers to study the case files properly (and I have) you'd learn that in the majority of cases the perpetrators are NOT KNOWN by the victims or their families and a lot of the time are foreign nationals (Zimbabwe, Mozambique) so do your research before u start sprouting nonsense. And as for those idiots saying what about the millions (lolol) of murdered farm workers?? (Yet funnily enough can't even provide ONE known case as evidence). Aaaah right, I forgot that farmers were raping, burning, torturing and disembowelling their worker in pandemic proportions. Get your facts ISN'T HAPPENING. Well done afriforum....ill support our hard working farmers till the bitter end!!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-01 18:35

      I think that It should be made very clear that when packaging Food it should be made compulsory to say which far it comes from . Then guys like semo and TT can Make wise choices when they buy food.

      jason.becker.969 - 2012-12-01 18:47

      Khethu. U say u know nothing of farmers being murdered. Google Afrikaner genocide n you'll see HUNDREDS of photos of farmers that have been tortured and murder and you'll be able to read THOUSANDS of cases of farmers and their families that have being murdered (and NOT by their workers) Now....provide me with link to just ONE photo or case of a farm worker who has suffered the same fate. Oh u can't? What a surprise. Look stop trying to condone the murder of farmers by speculating about farm workers being killed and just accept the fact farmers are being killed in the most savage way possible simply because they are white Afrikaners. If a couple of cell phones are stolen its just a bonus

      jason.becker.969 - 2012-12-01 19:13

      Khethu. Just followed your instructions TO THE TEE. And guess what.....not a single case NOR photo of a farm worker who was tortured to death, dragged behind a car, raped with broken bottles, burned with hot irons or disemboweled. IN FACT if u google exactly what u said....u know what comes up instead? after link after link after link of stuff about farm murders. Sorry without substantial evidence to back up your claim about millions of farm workers bring killed by farmers (in fact there's not ONE such case) your argument Dosnt hold too much water

      jason.becker.969 - 2012-12-01 19:19

      And just for the record if you do your research youll learn more blacks were killed by other blacks than by whites during apartheid...a LOT more, AND hundreds of thousands more whites have been killed since apartheid ended than blacks killed during apartheid.

  • matshane.seleko - 2012-12-01 19:23

    Killing the other person beccause they ill-teated you is no excuse at all.The rate at which farmers are attacked and murdered is really worrying,more so because foreign nationals are implicated in this.I doudt that farmers are murdered mostly by people known to them.Police investigation would have long revealed it.Murdering the other person can never be justified,unless it can be proven beyond reasonable doudt that it was done in self defence.So,bottom line is,Afriforum's march to highlight farm murders is justified,just like all the other marches that occured before to highlight the mentioned grievances.As south africans,it's also their(Afriforum) right to march.

  • lskopinski - 2012-12-01 20:13

    When I read all of the comments I wonder how many are being made by people who call themselves christians!!!!!!! What's gonna happen the day that the Lord comes. Is he also gonna judge us on the wrongdoings of our fathers. Maybe we are coming closer to a solution to SA's crisis........let's make christians of everybody then we will all be living in Eden.........just wondering!!!!!

      johan.mostert.967 - 2012-12-03 15:30

      Like they made more christians during the Crusades?

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-12-01 20:27

    After reading some disgusting comments from my fellow kind, it is true that the majority of black my black folks have got a big problem, the mindset of our majority is still living in the 1960's,1970's and 1980's, surely are we really that dumb or it's just a ignorance or I don't care attitude to see a difference between right and wrong?. Killing the people who are filling our supermarket shelves with different quality of goods it's a economically suicide and soon rather than later our foolish emotionally actions would come back to haunt us big time. Indians and coloureds were also affected by the past injustices but they don't resort in the victim games by murdering white farmers, my black folks this is a twenty first century let's leave and bury our barbaric behaviour/ways in the past where they belong.

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-12-01 21:01

      Excellent !

      longile.bongani - 2012-12-01 21:25

      Well said Keith, my sentiments precisely

      dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-12-02 00:28

      Keith.ngobeni I salute you sir. Let's all work together I don't want to talk about black and white anymore but fellow citizens. I know its hard for everybody I'm also guilty but let's bury our hatred and move forward. Apartheid was bad but its no excuse.

  • emile.marais - 2012-12-01 20:40

    Reading the comments here has sadly convinced me that the claim of genocide is not far fetched. South Africa seems to be heading towards adding genocide with Apartheid to its list of Crimes against Humanity.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-12-01 21:22

    Afriforum wants to protest peacefully but the police minister want to declare illegal but its fine for unions to march and destroy property!!! Fark you minister!

  • fairness.iseverything - 2012-12-01 21:33

    The celebration of a humans death regardless of their ethnicity is one of the first signs that this world is going down the drain. There is so much hate ... We, the ones that can think beyond the now have the responsibility to influence the blind, if we don't reconcile and start on a clean slate this will only get worse. Much worse, then it will be too late. There are people, our children that will one day ask what were they thinking, why did they not think about us? OR they will be raising a monument in our names because we showed vision and selflessness and pride. Revenge is the easy option, but it doesn't last. Your choice, start thinking of the ones after you.

  • Rachel Irene Finn - 2012-12-01 22:19

    I spent at least an hour thinking of an appropriate comment but there is non. The actual article saddened me but the ensuing comments absolutely floored me. In 1994 we were the rainbow nation we shone, but obviously we have faded back to black and white.... the divide and racial hatred just grows and feeds on itself. As a nation we should be disgusted at any murder, whether farm worker, man in the street or farmer! We need a bit of Madiba Magic. God help us!

  • hein.huyser - 2012-12-01 22:54

    Bring back the Commandos. The farmers had radios and were in constant contact. When a farmer called for help, 24/7 he had neighbors on his doorstep in no time. That kept the criminal element at bay. How we will deal with the genocide factor is another story. Here's my take on things. Whete is the sworn enemy of the white people? AZAPO Since the farm killings started in all ernesty they went very, very silent

  • patrick.m.vianello - 2012-12-02 00:24

    The sooner the people realize that this country was/is and will always be split down racial lines the better. It's a sad thing but it's reality I'm afraid. The country was doomed from its creation in 1910. I read an article about the "Mandela dream fading". Sorry folks - the Mandela dream was doomed from the start. As much as I hate to say it - face the facts here

  • terra.schoultz - 2012-12-02 13:55

    semonate, how thick must one be not to listen to the plight of our farmers. You are so arrogant, stupid and racist. Go crawl back in your hole underneath the tree cause that is where idiots like you belong. Major twat!!!!!!!!

  • rory.n.price - 2012-12-02 14:31

    Yandisa, the problem we have is the way they murdered, no animal should die like that, rob a person, fine, rape a women infront of family, black or white, savages, that don't deserve to live

  • Ptolemy - 2012-12-02 15:24

    Is this now the rainbow nation talking to each other? It seems there is no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow!!

  • mmoledis - 2012-12-02 16:00

    Farm attacks are not good at all and government should do some thing to protect the farmers for the sake of this country to produce more and more food for its citizens,attacks on farmers are also causing a very serious economic problems because if they do not farm enough it seems we as a country will suffer for that as the country will lose revenue generated by farmers when they sent their goods or products outside, and also will reduce labour in this country as some workers will be without jobs, so a loss to a farmer in this country is a loss to many jobs,government revenue and economic problems. As government has to do more to protect the farmers, so as the farmers too should do more to save and protect the farm workers, they should gave them good salaries, provide them with good and safe working conditions and respect their rights and lastly obey South African labour laws. as such this will be a two way and farm problems will be tackled so as of the farm workers and the country.

  • Willie Olivier - 2012-12-09 08:47

    keith.ngobeni for president! If only half the population had your mentality and wisdom, I shall have hope for SA

  • Glinks - 2013-01-17 08:51

    Very interesting: - go have a read.

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