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AfriForum to march against farm murders

2012-11-29 16:02

Johannesburg - The North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria granted AfriForum permission on Thursday to hold a march against farm murders, the civil rights group said.

Tshwane municipality initially gave permission for a march, but later changed its mind, AfriForum said in a statement.

"We regard the court's decision as a major victory and we are eagerly going ahead with the protest action," said AfriForum's counsel Werner Human.

"AfriForum is alone when it comes to peaceful and unarmed protest actions, making it ironic that the department of police tried to declare the action illegal."

AfriForum deputy CEO Ernst Roets contacted police ministry spokesperson Zweli Mnisi to arrange that a police representative accept a petition from marchers on Saturday.

In a statement, Roets said the attempt by the police to declare the protest action illegal was "clearly a case of political meddling" after they gave notice of the march on October 24.

The march, on December 1, is part of a campaign by AfriForum and Solidarity against farm attacks and to promote rural safety.

Comments
  • Donkervlie - 2012-11-29 16:09

    This is great news but sadly it also tells us that we cant trust the police.

      Shaun - 2012-11-29 16:22

      ja im keen to march for a good cause.who wouldnt??mmmhhhh?

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-29 16:43

      Its only political meddeling if you re white! Sad as it is,its the truth! Good for Afriforum for making an attempt to speak out against the brutal murders! Wish I could join them!

      fred.warren.986 - 2012-11-29 17:53

      The police wanted to prevent the march because of pressure from the ANC who indirectly support and encourage farm attacks to further their objectives of driving whites off their land

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-29 20:47

      Farm attacks are the racist ANC unwritten policy of retribution and wealth redistribution through continued terror & murder of it's own nations citizens - re the thousands of black and white and others who have been violently and brutally murdered in the extreme

  • veldt66 - 2012-11-29 16:12

    March against crime in general!

      rohin.jadin - 2012-11-29 16:13

      I agree, by specifying that it's against farm murders, you end up ostracizing a huge chunk of otherwise support.

      Wikus Erasmus - 2012-11-29 16:27

      a specific section of society is being targeted and its not even whispered about. since dropping the commando format these food producers are now sitting ducks. but a poor rhino (and tragic as it is, its still just an animal) gets more attention than a human life lost due to racially motivated thievery. if it was just theft we wouldn't be talking about rape, torture and murder. for a rhino you can put a R30 plastic horn on your car. any such awareness for this issue? no..... because its politically incorrect to do so..... we'll see how politically correct it is to import mealie meal for PAP when farmers become extinct....

  • sandor.l.varga - 2012-11-29 16:14

    I'm hoping AfriForum inviting BBC, CNN, SKY News, Euro News so they can show it to the world a protest against a genocide what is happening here. Hopefully will be successful a march.

      john.morreira.9 - 2012-11-29 16:36

      I wholeheartedly agree Sandor. Let the world know that Apartheid (which was an unfair,unworkable system) has been replaced with something as bad.

      priyal.pillay - 2012-11-29 16:51

      Goodluck convincing the rest of the world of this so called 'genocide' when there are other races that face equal or worse violence. Unreported incidents at that.Stop smoking your khakis. The issue here is CRIME. Stop being so self important.

      khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-11-29 17:19

      i dont know which planet you are living in etv ran a story about living and working conditions of farm workers which are horriable. just for your information etv 3rd degree is watch in the UK. afriforum idea is great unfortunately is people like you who are focused race rather than issues that affect SA crime in general.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-11-30 07:18

      @khuliso. You should have watched the repeat last night. Yes, the places is not in a good condition, but the farmers fault was to allow season workers to stay there. he should have let them find some other accommodation. It is not part of the agreement to give them a place to sleep. Now it bits him on the ass, but yes, he must not allow people to sleep in that old store. When looking at the real/permanent farm-workers you could wish the people in townships has such accommodations. Pay the seasonal s more and let them sort themselves out taxi wise and if not at work, replace them, but I think this is where the problem is.

  • Sthembile Goba - 2012-11-29 16:17

    when are they going to march against the miserably conditions farm workers have to endure.

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-29 16:21

      Afriforum is there for the farmers getting murdered, what about the heading of this story do you not get??? Get play in the sand pit!

      patrick.m.vianello - 2012-11-29 16:24

      Retard - typical, do you know what they get? Free house, free electricity. Why you only protest in the Cape and nowhere else hey? Buses come in and protest. It's wanting to destabilize a province the terrorists don't run. International news show complete sympathy for you already. They have no idea that people come into a farmers house and rapes the farmers wife and then sticks a broken glass bottle up her genitalia. Although even if they knew they'd do nothing because the white man in Africa is evil no matter what.

      michael.smit.73997 - 2012-11-29 16:29

      @sthembile when a farmer is murdered, 30 odd workers lose there jobs. maybe if the government delivered their promises of free housing and education for all then maybe those farm workers wouldnt be living like. Sthembile i would like you to reply. i wanna debate with you.. come on

      george.frangs - 2012-11-29 16:31

      Maybe you can organise that march as it's a seperate issue. This is about people being BRUTALLY MURDERED.

      George - 2012-11-29 16:35

      Why don't you organise a march against the miserable conditions millions of blacks have to endure in squatter camps whilst Zuma and the ANC hiearchy live a life of luxury?. #Nkandla

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-11-29 16:50

      Just after all population groups march for against farm murders we all going to join you marching to ensure farm-workers gets treated decently. As simple as that. Game?

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-11-29 16:59

      @Sthembile Goba - If you don't like the conditions, then f off back to Zim. Nobody is forcing you to work!!!

      monica.clark.777 - 2012-11-29 17:07

      And you think they deserve to be murdered because the living condition of workers are miserably? This are politically motivated murders . And there is no need to pay someone to do that . Is enough only to instigate farm workers by clever agents who drink at shebeen with them. If they speak to them and tell them just that for example;if I were you I will kill that bastard ,or something else to instigate people and after that of course they take action. In this way is easier to grab the farms without compensation.

      crystal.somerville.71 - 2012-11-29 17:14

      please - are u a farm worker - that you know so much about their conditions?

      khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-11-29 17:20

      indeed when will they march about farm workers abuse. these farmers abuse their communities therefore the community must retaliate with deadly force

      russell.l.tait - 2012-11-29 17:49

      Hey Sthembile..........voetsek!

      mike.lamb.7777 - 2012-11-29 18:08

      http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum

  • charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-29 16:18

    Go on Afriforum, well done, march for crime in general on minority groups!

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-11-29 17:52

      @khuliso Greeks are the minority of a minority, probably less than a few hundred living in SA. What have you got against Greeks?

  • hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-11-29 16:21

    they must also inspect working and living conditions in farms while busy marching

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-29 16:24

      How are they going to inspect working conditions while marching? That's taking multi-tasking to new levels douche sak!

      dragonfire47 - 2012-11-29 16:24

      Can you read, look what the article is about, sheesh

      george.frangs - 2012-11-29 16:32

      Maybe you can organise that as another march as it's a seperate issue. This is about people being BRUTALLY MURDERED. 'tsek.

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-29 18:01

      all the responders 2 your comment are insane.@hezikial or something.

  • Martin Meiring - 2012-11-29 16:28

    Who forces farm workers to stay in a job and environment that do not meet their financial needs? If not satisfied, quit and seek better job environment.

      ndlovu.norman - 2012-11-29 16:51

      U lack a sound judgement martin; including all those who gave u a thumbs up.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-29 17:09

      As much as if u are not happy here in RSA you are welcome to leave

  • veldt66 - 2012-11-29 16:28

    Those news organizations they hve enough problems in their own countries. Crime is crime my friend wether u kill a shack dweller or a farmer

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-11-29 16:30

      Your attitude stinks of ANC!

      michael.smit.73997 - 2012-11-29 16:37

      @veldt66 what about when you your mother has being tortured with an iron, raped and mutilated on a farm ?

      terra.schoultz - 2012-11-29 17:18

      Veldt66 crawl back into your dark hole idiot. You don't have the brains to grasp the seriousness of this issue. Voetsek gremlin!!!!

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-29 16:34

    Please make sure the tv cameras are there as well, can't wait 2 watch this.

  • mariana.barry - 2012-11-29 16:36

    Please just NO khakis & white horses - we NEED to march against these attacks as a unified country PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave your political agendas at home

  • mariana.barry - 2012-11-29 16:39

    Please just NO khakis & white horses - we NEED to march against these attacks as a unified country PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave your political agendas at home

      Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2012-11-29 17:40

      Agreed. We need to not polarise society further.

  • ndlovu.norman - 2012-11-29 16:40

    Who in this world is labelled or can be called a 'human being'? This world really sucks

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-11-29 16:49

    And when are they planning to march against farmers who abuse their employees?Just curious.

      Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2012-11-29 17:26

      They always do that. Did you not see the farms burning? What did you think they were doing? Maybe, you did not realise that because you saw the real motive of their striking.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-29 17:00

    I'll join them only if the include farm workers abuses and killings in their grievances unless their don't care about them and regard them as animals.

      terra.schoultz - 2012-11-29 17:25

      Idiot Karabo, read the headline. This is an issue regarding farmers being mutilated and murdered by sick animals manipulated by cANCer regime. Organize your own petty march and go burn down and vandalize some property so you can suffer the same fate as idiots like yourself did a few weeks back. Only this time don't slaughter a bunny, cause it did not help your friends.

      Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2012-11-29 17:30

      Don't be silly!! The farmers know how to strike for themselves. If we used your logic, the farm workers would be doing the same for the white farmers. HYPOCRITES!

      avremel.niselow - 2012-11-29 17:34

      Maybe that will happen when the farm workers protest the murders( oh whoops they're the ones doing the killing.)

      pyn.appel - 2012-11-29 18:02

      How many farmworkers are killed every year by their farmer bosses!?!?! Afriforum have asked for evidence of these kind of violences against workers from the Min of Agriculture and she could not give them any ... I am sure there are a few who is not good to their workers but you get that in ANY job in ANY race. Stop labelling without facts! Everything in SA that goes wrong is blamed on the white man, come on, get up and take some responsibility! All races need one another to survive. Not all can be the boss and not all can be the worker, everyone has the skill that fits in the puzzle to make things work!

      catherineangelique.swarts - 2012-11-29 18:09

      once again where is the proof of farm workers being abused. show us we want proof.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ndlovu.norman - 2012-11-29 18:41

      @ catherine: what proof do u want? The proof is in the shacks you see all over south africa. I dont think a normal person would want to live in such conditions, do you?

      Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2012-11-29 19:26

      @ Ndlovu. Actually you can blame ANC for that one too. In 18 years they have done very little. If a sky scraper can be built in 2 years, then why is it that simple houses cannot be built in 18 years with all the resources available? If you have a reasonable mind, you'll be ticking any other party other than ANC at the next election.

      ndlovu.norman - 2012-11-30 06:40

      @tyrone: there goes another human race who fails to use his/her brain. What u fail to understand is that yo house was not built by the ANC but u want government to supply houses to the poor. I also want to build my own house tyrone, a house wit a plan i like but it wont happen if the farmer steals my services and pay me peanuts in exchange of free housing and electricity

  • dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-29 17:14

    I see strong sentiments for the march. By all means go ahead join Afriforum just dont sit at home and comment here. Go out there and voice your dissatisfaction maybe just maybe the farmworker can also march against abuses.

  • khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-11-29 17:14

    i think the march must also cover farm abuse and better working conditions for farm workers. you cant separate the two issues farm murders amd farm abuse

      Adil Smit - 2012-11-29 17:27

      Finally someone admitting that the farm murders are not just random killings.

      Tyrone Grobbelaar - 2012-11-29 17:36

      As far as we've seen, the workers strike about their rights while destroying everything in their path. Did not see them striking for farm murders then, hey?

      catherineangelique.swarts - 2012-11-29 18:03

      to date. I have not seen one documented proof of a farm worker being ill treated or abused. they must provide proof of this. I don't think the farmers are that stupid.

  • matimu.milwood - 2012-11-29 17:27

    Same as Dumb *Ass* always in court

  • gawie.botha - 2012-11-29 17:28

    Dit sal die "Boere" goed te pas kom om die verhoogde salaris aanpassings te doen,dan het die werker ook n keuse,hy trek uit die Plaaswonings,huur sy eie huis,water,ligte en erfbelasting,,,,,dan het die boer nie meer daardie onderhoud aan die plaas huise en ander instandhoudings en onodige familie,wat in sulke huise plak sonder toestemming! Smokkel van drank en verdowingsmiddels,waraan die Polisie hulle nie steur,wanneer geraporteer,,,,,,,!

  • jason.becker.969 - 2012-11-29 17:40

    The pathetic notion that somehow farm murders and the treatment of farm labourers is connected is COMPLETELY unfounded and without basis. If u took the time to study the case files (which I have) instead of jumping to conclusions you'd notice that in the vast MAJORITY of cases the perpetrators are NOT KNOWN by the victims and in some cases are FOREIGN NATIONALS (Mozambique, zim etc). Furthermore a lot of farmers treat their labourers VERY well yet STILL fall victim murder in the most brutal fashion. Case in point is an elderly couple I read about who treated their workers like family and even went so far as putting the son of their domestic through university! And how we're these kind people repaid? The mother of the son disabled the security systems and let in a grouped of about 6 low life scum bags who then proceeded to TORTURE the poor old man to death! Lovely! Lastly when was the last time a farmer burned one of his workers with a hot iron, poured boiling water down his throat and disemboweled him??

  • pyn.appel - 2012-11-29 17:49

    March against crime, ALL crime but put spotlight on farm attacks as that is our food going down the drain. All races should join the march otherwise it will be turned into a racist thing. Get all the farmworkers now without a job, those in the squatter camps already starving ... let us save our country and get rid of the small minority (criminals) that is making all of us live in fear!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-11-29 17:55

    I condemn these murders as they are part of a bigger problem of crime in this country.

  • dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-29 17:59

    Im suprised that most people who should be supporting this march are commenting on Zuma story instead of psyching themselves up and gathering more support.

  • Bafana Joseph - 2012-11-29 18:24

    i don't support killings of farm owners...they must not abuse farm workers

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-11-29 19:04

    A much larger protest action from farmers is needed for all of South Africa to take their plight seriously, a march will only be shown in the worst kind of light through the media,..... this is all that can be expected, and surely this will be a mistake.... I would say that farmers should unite on a no production protest for 2013.... it is better to sacrifice a bit of livelihood, than to continue to sacrifice their lives..... rest assured the media and government will paint the worst picture......but they are going to do so with the march anyway.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-29 22:24

    @Terra I might be an idiot but you a moron of non-description,actually I cant support killers and abusers and maybe some of them deserves what they are getting.

  • gi.d.esilva.1 - 2012-11-30 19:54

    I have no problem to be part of this march. I just want to know why Afriforum did not participate in the march against e-tolls with Cosatu? The march would have much more impact if for once black and white stood together. I was disappointed to see that only a few white people took part.

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