Alcohol ads to be banned, Motsoaledi says

2011-09-06 21:00

Cape Town - The government plans to ban alcohol advertising in a bid to rein in violent crime fuelled by excessive drinking, the health minister said Tuesday.

With one of the world's highest crime rates, the country attracts foreign experts "just to learn to deal with wounds of injury and violence because we are regarded as a laboratory for that," Minister Aaron Motsoaledi told reporters.

"The driving factor behind this is alcohol, the harmful effects of alcohol. We're not going to pull back about the issue of alcohol control, including the banning on advertising of alcohol."

"It's just a matter of time - it's not an issue of whether, it's an issue of when," he added.

Violence and injuries are the top killer in South Africa after HIV, Motsoaledi told delegates at a World Health Organisation conference on violence prevention.

About 3.5 million people are treated for injuries annually in an already overburdened public system, he said.

"If saving our people earns us a title of being a nanny [state], I very much welcome that title," Motsoaledi said.

The World Health Organisation is looking at ways to reduce levels of violence, which it says places a huge strain on health systems.

South Africa ranks 52nd among the world's heaviest drinkers, according to the WHO, and is one of the world's most violent societies with 46 murders per day and high levels of rape.

WHO director of violence prevention Etienne Krug said the consequences of violence went beyond death and injury and lead to problems like disabilities, mental health issues and sexual infections.

"Violence is one of the biggest public health problems in the world," he said, saying it did not get "even 1%" of the attention given to other major challenges.

"HIV kills 1.7 million people a year. Violence kills 1.5 million."

  • jjacgilbert - 2011-09-06 21:15

    It is like banning pornography because the world is over populated.

      Rudolph Bergh - 2011-09-06 21:31

      lol...which might not be a bad idea

      kthage - 2011-09-06 21:41

      Are you serious? Do you know the effects of Alcohol abuse? They are not banning alcohol, just adverts. Your comment is lame, you don't see pornography adverts on TV during family time with caption that it's not for person under the age of 18? Right? Imagine if pornography was advertised the same way as alcohol is?

      Francois - 2011-09-06 22:28

      Rudolph, I think that overpopulation is a bad idea. Oh, mind you, you were perhaps referring to porn? Now what is about to follow is not a defence of porn: There is no causal relationship between porn and overpopulation, in fact in the most overpopulated countries in the world, porn is either banned or too expensive for those who have a lot of children and why pay for porn when you can get any of your wives to give you the live show? Back to liquor, I don't think that there is a causal relationship between liquor adds and boozing - in fact when the US had prohibition, that is banning liquor in total, it gave rise to the Mafia in the US and the drinking did not stop. The only good thing to come from that was the bootleg jeans. I think government must make the tax on booze twice what it is, ban import of booze from overseas to protect our own market and then use the money to get at the illegal traders and smugglers and lock them all up along with the people who committed booze induced crime for 30 years and have the constant playing of Steve Hofmeyer's "Pampoen", Kurt Darren's "Kaptein" and Leonard Cohen's "Closing time" in the background.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 04:12

      I notice that the SERIOUS ABUSE OF TIK, COCAINE, HEROIN, MORPHINE, XTC, Marijuana etc are all ON THE UP..... WITHOUT ADVERTISING!!!!!

      tommy 2 - 2011-09-07 09:01

      The biggest alcoholics are the politicians. So they can ban the advertising,but just by watching them on t.v.. One will have a drink.

      Sniper69 - 2011-09-07 10:00

      Here we go - Nationalisation of alcohol to follow next....

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-07 10:10

      lets blame it all on captain morgan,that bad old pirate on tv is the cause of all our problems,also all those smiling friends drinking a beer together....its all their fault......this is a stupid idea,ads dont cause violence people do,i know allot of people who drink and none of them go out and murder and rape

      Jedi knight - 2011-09-07 11:59

      @kthage, no you don't see porn on tv, and babies are still born with HIV. No porn on tv , but we have a massive population with little or no education, and many orphans due to lazy shagging around parents....just my 2 cents worth....use the force or not.

      Beckie Knight - 2013-05-16 03:23

      That wouldn't be a bad idea!!!

  • Casie - 2011-09-06 21:16

    Whenever I start thinking that ministers are just plain incompetent, they rush to convince me that they just want to destroy as many jobs as they can.

      Dav - 2011-09-07 08:17

      Totally agree with you. Jobs were lost when they banned cigarette ads and that hasn't worked. It's also not the speed that kills it's the idiot doing the speed reducing the speed limit wont help that cause either. These clowns in government don't study the full implication of their actions. They are just desperate to look as though they are doing something right in the face of their own incompetancy.

      MandlaSithole - 2011-09-07 09:54

      People abuse alcohol because of an underlying cause. Banning alcohol does not fix the core problem. They will just move to drugs which will create an even bigger problem and bigger drug market. What will they ban then because drugs are not advertised.

      MojoBa - 2011-09-07 10:29

      It's because the voters don't understand all the mumbo jumbo that should be making up an argument. They only understand that something is being done (on the surface) and they believe for a while that this will help them in their lives. Shame, it's actually cruel how the government make fools of their uneducated voters.

  • Newsferret - 2011-09-06 21:18

    And when are they going to ban fornication I wonder.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 04:13

      Imagine if they do ban FORNICATION.... Zuma will be STUFFED!

      Janine - 2011-09-07 08:00

      @Netherlander - you mean Zuma won't be getting stuffed!

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 08:40

      HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Damned if you do...Damned if you DON'T! LOL

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-07 10:13

      Nope...Zuma wont be STUFFING

  • Hux - 2011-09-06 21:20

    What about banning petrol because cars are involved in killing people! Just plain stupid.

      Taboo - 2011-09-07 09:40

      Hux - now you getting silly. Stick to the point.

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:28

      Think on these things . . . these jerks want to introduce a parking tax. Can you imagine them starting a tax on sex!?

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:30

      Taboo - you are wrong. He is sticking to the point because the whole sham-dangles is getting ridiculous. Hux has a valid point

  • Tomas - 2011-09-06 21:20

    May I suggest that the ministers, goverement officals and the people that are voted i to serve the people lead by example. Ban all alcohol at all offical functions and enforce the law. Your social status should not be used as a "get out of jail free" card. The traffic cops should be out on the roads protoling day and night and not sitting behind trees acting like glorified camera guards. Lead by example - enforce the law - reduce the back log in court cases.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 04:14

      WTF is "protoling"???????

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-07 10:18

      it's a person who agrees with the N1 toll system...he is pro tolling hahahaha....just kidding Tomas

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:31

      WTF is a Netherlander????? It's probably the same as a gamtoos!

  • doctor28 - 2011-09-06 21:22

    Alcohol costs this economy about 1% of its total GPD every year.. banning alcohol advertising isn't gonna cut it.. they need to figure out a way of restricting the sale of no more than 2 drinks per 24 hours to an individual.. perhaps an ID book card swipe type system.. Something needs to be done.. I work 1st hand with the consequences of unregulated drinking and I agree.. If people can't control their drinking or behavior when drunk then the responsibility for that will be removed from them!

      Radrodent - 2011-09-06 21:38

      You're not very bright are you?

      Richard - 2011-09-06 22:06

      Doctor28, I'll support your proposal anytime. Having seen the violence and bloodshed every weekend in several Cape Town communities, generally fuelled by alcohol, I believe something as drastic, as your proposal, is required.

      Deon - 2011-09-06 22:33

      It isn't alcohol that costs the economy anything - it's stupidity. Which is why our sporting codes and others who are massively sponsored by alcohol advertisements are going to suffer enormously. And the idiots will still get plastered and still haul out knives and still walk in front of trains.

      Valis - 2011-09-06 22:33

      This is a laudable sentiment but unscientific. Trying to control people's behaviour with legislation simply does not work. This has been proven over and over again. I simply don't understand why a scientifically educated person such as a doctor can make a call for something that clearly doesn't work and will just exacerbate the problem as people will just find illegal drinking spots instead. No, what has been scientifically proven to work is to restrict and/or ban advertising for the product. Banning cigarette advertising has caused smoking rates to plummet. This holds true for alcohol as well. Providing education and information on the dangers of drinking and providing alternatives will also do much to stem the problem. Passing laws trying to force people to behave in a specific way has never worked. Good grief.

      Francois - 2011-09-06 22:57

      Phallus (is that the Latin spelling of your name?), why are the tobacco companies then still making a racket? Now let us think about legislation that controls behavior and I only need to give one example, because you used "simply does not work" and "never": What about tax? What about the Employment Equity Act? What about the new constitution as adopted in 1996? What about the Access to Information Act? What about the Minerals Resources Act? All are pieces of legislation that profoundly changed peoples' behaviour. If you are so scientific, if you are passing legislation on advertisement, how wil that change behaviour, as you have stated that legislation cannot do that - bit self contradictory? Then if you have this contradictory law passed, do you think that it will require less policing? Please also be so kind as to reference your claim that statements are unscientific, I just used logic, but you use the shoot of the hip technique. Well maybe that is where your name comes from?

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:23

      It's the same with cigarettes. To much money goes into the pockets of advertising companies and this is a serious thorn for the government. they want the monies for themselves. so how do you do it. You tax it more. how do you tax it start with the "sin" campaign, i.e. advertisement restrictions, restrictions on sale, etc. etc. this is also the only why how the can get "monopoly fees" and bribe monies. Typical...

      The Gecko - 2011-09-07 08:48

      2 drinks per 24 hours - so selling bottles of alcohol will be illegal then, because any alcoholic beverage contains more than two drinks... I see what you are trying to do and it sounds like a good idea in theory, but you didn't really think this through did you?

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-07 10:24

      @doctor28 ...move to Dubai,you need a licence to buy booze there for home consumption and you have to earn over a certain amount to get it, otherwise you have to go to the clubs where a dumpy beer will cost you the equivalent of around R90-R100 for me i wont be restricted and treated like a child so keep your opinion for your own children

  • Francois - 2011-09-06 21:26

    Dear dr Motsoaledi, of all the people you are also on the bandwagon of finding problems where they do not exist. How many alcohol smugglers and illegal brewers (not brothers) have your comrade Cele caught this year? How many were effectively put in jail by a well run court system that is part of Comrade Radebe's portfolio? Did anyone ask where, in a nation where poverty is so widespread, did the people get the money to buy booze with? Did your surveys state how much of that booze was the merchandise that is actually advertised? Your big leader, Zoes Puma, has unprotected sex with HIV positive women and his former best friend Malema makes fish ashamed by the amount of expensive liquor he drinks. Do you not think that the problem is more a lack of government to enforce simple laws and set an example of ethical behaviour? NO, you go after the easy target, the advertisement or the media! Today I will promise you that the banning of advertisement will not decrease the application of Vaaljapie for the poor and it will not decrease Vaaljapie induced statutory rape, it will in fact increase it.

      Valis - 2011-09-06 22:35

      Wrong. Your statement goes counter to all scientific evidence.

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:25

      I agree with Francois

      Ryan Tunney - 2011-09-07 08:48

      Hey relax, you're talking to a urangatang...he still has to evolve. Don't get so stressed.

      Melanie Walsh - 2011-09-07 09:16

      @ Valis. you can't stop an alcoholic from drinking and that is what most of the people are who commit violent acts after drinking. Just make things more expensive and hopefully that will deter people from drinking. Restricting advertising might slow down the sales of alcohol, but the ones not buying will be the responsible ones not the alcoholics.

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 11:32

      O yes's Zuma "tha ruma"

  • Radrodent - 2011-09-06 21:37

    I don't think the government has any friggin clue just exactly how devastating the spin-off and knock-on effect this will have on jobs. Hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost should this be the case. Almost every industry will be affected in some way or another.

      Richard - 2011-09-06 22:06

      How exactly?

      Radrodent - 2011-09-06 22:26

      Richard, just think of how big the liquor industry is and how much money they spend on advertising and sponsoring of sporting events. Without this money being pumped back into the economy there is inevitable and irreversible damage that is going to be done. Sit back and think about the various industries that are linked directly or indirectly via marketing or otherwise to the liquor industry. Advertising of liquor today is done responsibly and with a warning that consumers must drink responsibly etc. Do you think that the short arm of the law in this country will do any better in ensuring that people drink responsibly once these warnings are gone? I think not.

      Valis - 2011-09-06 22:39

      How would cutting down on binge drinking cause the loss of hundreds of thousand of jobs? People will just drink more responsibly and the laws of supply and demand will do the rest. Plus the savings in womanhours and fewer injuries, less police resources spent etc. will more than make up for that.

      tryanything - 2011-09-07 06:53

      This is terrible the loss of revenue will be incredible .....My bottle stores will lose money, ill lose sales govt will lose vat on liquor sales. My chain of panel beating shops will have to close down......and my tow truck fleet is in danger..... ambulance crews wont have any thing to do .....We will have to actually find work that is not vice or crime generated..........

      tryanything - 2011-09-07 06:55

      Actually not ...we are our own enemies Cutting the advertising is not going to help stubborn people behave themselves..

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:30

      Do you guys really think people will drink way...this will make the big brands just more richer and the privately owned liquor stores bankrupt. It's hard enforcing BEEE structures on small and privately own business and also hard to tax them.. but take a TOPS for instance. they can be Audited better. Do you really think it's about the consumption and behavior of people?...or is it about controlling government and fat cat "income" better????

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:44

      Why you worried about job losses - Zoo-ma said and promised he would create 5 mil jobs by 2020 - problem solved! Don't panic.

  • ActionJacksonZA - 2011-09-06 21:38

    Hope all that money they save in advertising goes towards rehabilitation and social awareness.

      tryanything - 2011-09-07 07:10

      Yes like the fine that The milling companies paid went to the people that were screwed

  • deejojo - 2011-09-06 21:38

    i donno but ive never watched an ad and thought.. damn now i need a drink and to f$#% someone up...

      JasunX - 2011-09-07 00:26

      There a many a time when I see a Coke ad and think..."Damn, I need a Coke!" You see, not many people plan on f$#%'ing someone up (as you put it) just before they have a drink. The intoxicating effect of the drink is what eventually leads them to plan, think or decide to f$#% someone up (again, as you put it). Read between the lines - you ignorant little infant.

  • Bill - 2011-09-06 21:39

    What they fail to realise, is the amount of sponsorship that Breweries etc put into mainstream sport in this country…! Banning alcohol advertising is going to see the end of this sponsorship…! How many Judges, MP’s and the like have we seen caught for drunken driving, start by educating your own kind about the abuse of alcohol and leave the frigging soft targets alone! This is one badly screwed up government…really…!

      MartinFord - 2011-09-06 22:16

      ANCs two step alcohol related violence prevention scheme. 1. Ban alcohol advertising ruining countless sporting and music events while having no effect on actual alcohol use. 2. Completely ignore the social issues that cause alcohol related problems. Motsoaledi: I like it. This should take the attention off our endless corruption and nepotism for a while and at the same time make life a little more miserable for the general public. Let's celebrate with a case oh Johnny Blue!

  • PinkAndProud - 2011-09-06 21:40

    Oh dear, what'll happen to all the sports sponsorships?

      Hongster - 2011-09-06 22:27

      There was a time when tobacco companies sponsored sporting events and concerts - Rothmans Durban July (now vodacom), Benson & Hedges Cricket, Peter Stuyvesant concerts... all those events still able to take place without tobacco advertising.

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:51

      @Hongster - can you even digest how much and how many other sporting events and codes could be sponsored by the tobacco inductry - like the upliftment and prizes for young children? Twat.

  • - 2011-09-06 21:40

    I think government spending is a bigger problem?

      Mike - 2011-09-07 12:52

      It is actually the biggest problem! And you know what hurts the most - it that they consider it their god-given right to blatantly steal willy- nilly.

  • Nosipho - 2011-09-06 21:40

    Good idea, ban the alcohol advertising just like the cigaretts. This didn't stop people from smoking but it made sure that our kids don't think it's cool to smoke just because they see it on tv. Secondly, restricting places where one could smoke was an excellent idea, you don't see the benefits until you move out of SA and you find people puffing in public areas.Banning alcohol advertising is the first step in the right direction, next raise the legal age to 21 and control the preimeter where alcohol establishment are found.

      Radrodent - 2011-09-06 21:53

      Every weekend during the world cup my home will be an alcohol establishment. You think the government will control my perimeter. I sure as hell hope they send the police as my house has been broken into 3 times already. Nice to know as long as I drink that my house is safe. I with you on your comment!!

      Colin Dovey - 2011-09-06 22:08

      Sadly @Nosipho, many folk like you do not have a CLUE how market forces work: When you eliminate ads, people will just drink what is available, and that means that the BIG producers like SA Breweries do not have to spend so much on ads any more - so they make even more profit. What has happened? NOBODY has stopped drinking - this STUPID government has just collapsed to a monopoly. Many years ago, (in the 1930')the Americans introduced Prohibition. What happened? "Under the counter" supplies and illegal "stills" flourished, and gangsterism in the form of people like Al Capone flourished. What they NEED to do, is POLICE the outlets much more stringently, and nail the tavern owners who do not ask for proof of age, (the drinking limit must be raised to 21 and above) and also that they insist on clients stopping after 3 drinks. Also, the Traffic Police must do their jobs, and try to falsely extort money from people they falsely accuse of drinking - Bees Roux's case is an excellent example. The trouble is, this pathetic ANC Party has now been "governing" for 16+ years, and they are REALLY floundering now. It is scary, because I, and many of my colleagues agree that there is NOT ONE area in which they are succeeding. Problem is, the majority of people voting them in don't know the difference, and swallow the Race Card, and the hate of others - We NEED leaders who can bring us together. South Africa is a GREAT country, but these profligate nincompoops are ruining the whole show!

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:37

      @colin Dovey: could not have said it better myself. I would just like to add and repeat what I said above; do you really think that it's about controlling people...don't tell me the government gives a sh... It's all about controlling their "income". You see, they have a problem. At this stage their own people, with the uncontrollable. There is a lot of monies exchanging hand and they have no cut in that????

  • Radrodent - 2011-09-06 21:44

    Jobs Jobs Jobs!!! SAB Miller is huge. They support many sporting events, charities, etc. not to mention the employees. Distell is another example. Imagine the impact on the hospitality industry. Imagine the impact on our export industry. Imagine the impact when production volumes of alcohol drop to a point whereby lay-offs and retrenchments become inevitable not only for the liquor manufacturing industries but their suppliers, customers, and co-ops. Jobs Jobs Jobs! Banning on advertising would be a disaster in every sense of the word. By banning advertising, there will be a helluva lot less contributing to an already strained GDP.

      Casie - 2011-09-06 21:48

      That is the intention...

      Francois - 2011-09-06 22:17

      And I guess you wanted to add that the new jobless people will drink and rape and violate more?

  • - 2011-09-06 21:48

    This idiot always gives away hints of Mugabe-like traits: from the his eye glasses to his warped and authoritarian style of thinking which is always derived from the last edges of extremism: NHI + ban on alcohol adverts. He is a splendid embodiment of the monster that these African governments are: uninformed on global evolution, out of touch with economics and hell bent on using populism as a means of attaining a name for themselves when all else has failed through their profession. What an imbecile like the rest of them are: he seems oblivious to the fact that SABMiller and Brandhouse are some of the biggest providers of employment in the country. In 2 years, this government has attempted to change the legislation to ban: 1. media freedom 2. BBM 3. alcohol 4. private medical aids. What else are they going to ban, Twitter, Facebook and Google+

      Jomokau - 2011-09-06 22:02

      @, just because you don't agree with the minister you don't need to resort to racism. Do some research and you will find that Norway (among other developed nations) also ban alcohol advertising. Are the Norwegians also "uninformed on global evolution"? Secondly, how can you classify the intentions to ban alcohol advertising as "using populism"? You don't need to be a genius to realize that this move will be UNpopular with the majority of South Africans, for obvious reasons.

      Radrodent - 2011-09-06 22:09

      Jomokau. I fail to see racism in the comment from arnoldmashava. What on earth are you on about? This forum is about banning alcohol advertising. I think you missed that to some extent. - 2011-09-06 22:48

      @Jomokau: another loose cannon! Norway and South Africa are NOT in the same league and because we have attained the civilisation that Norway has attained, we cannot adopt the same model as this will adversely impact on sport sponsorship, educational bursaries, employment, state revenue, media industry etc. In any case, a democracy must allow its stakeholders to decide on matters like these and NOT a one-man decision which translates to monocracy. Monocracy is a synonym of totalitarianism and because it is largely used to describe African leaders, a lot of knuckleheads think it is a racist term. The conception of the NHI by this minister is populist and you do NEED some elementary algebra to work that out!

      Jomokau - 2011-09-06 23:34

      @, Norway and SA may not be in the same league but SA faces a problem of alcohol which Norway faced in the past and Norway acted by banning alcohol adverts. So what's wrong about SA learning from this? You refer to the adverse impact on sport sponsorship. I remember very well that when tobacco advertising was banned people used the same argument about advertisement revenue being lost, but instead the sponsorship in sports like soccer today is much higher than it was during the days of the Rothmans cup. You mentioned that "a democracy must allow its stakeholders to decide on matters like these". Who are the stakeholders in this matter? Most South Africans can be classified as stakeholders because 1. many south Africans are involved in the sale of alcohol. 2.most people here consume alcohol 3. the others who don't consume alcohol are affected in one way or the other by the consequences of alcohol abuse. So are you suggesting then that a referendum should be held (or how do you allow the "stakeholders to decide")? If so, is this not taking the populist route that you accuse the minister of taking? To get back to the main point, I am not suggesting that the ban of alcohol advertisement will completely eradicate the problem of alcohol abuse, I simply take exception to people like you who make sweeping statements (with a hint of racism) whenever you don't agree with our leaders.

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:52

      jomokau...racism...racism...racism..whenever a black person is wrong then it's racism.. you can't compare Norway with South africa.. yes they could have done away with alcohol advertising because so many other system work whereas we have jacksquat working for us.

  • diplomat - 2011-09-06 21:57

    Next thing...we throw alcohol out, like they did in Sudan in 1983 and other Muslim countries... Sad day. Well you do find a lot of drinking in the American Indian areas..also the Greenland areas. Where people have lost hope for having jobs, and futures. Maybe that is what is happening, but, to sort that out is, give people education and jobs.

      MojoBa - 2011-09-07 10:41

      It seems to me like people are finding it hard to understand that we have such a high unemployment rate because there are too many people. The government can also not (and I mean they are useless at the best of times) not be expected to keep creating jobs for people who just don't stop having children. I think we should be curbing the population. Just about every week you hear of babies that have been thrown away. Some get rescued and some sadly perish, but the point is.........................another individual who will need a job in 18 years time.

  • Bill - 2011-09-06 21:57

    I wonder if they will now ban the word "Eish"

  • TinaM - 2011-09-06 21:58

    how about banning shebeens?

  • jesomerville - 2011-09-06 21:58

    if smoking ads are banned then its about time alcohol gets the same treatment

      Radrodent - 2011-09-06 22:02

      Why? Motivate your comment please.

      Kishore Doodnath - 2011-09-07 07:28

      Here is some motivation for Radrodent. Both smoking and alcohol are bad for the health of those that consume it and the people close tho them. It leads to accidents in which drunk people as well as innocent people die and the cost of cleaning up runs into the billions. We have billions tied up in cleaning up the mess, like police patrols, ambulances, hospital beds etc. It has no nutritional value and money that should be spent on food is spent on this rubbish by the poor. Insurance premiums are higher because of alcohol. Liver disease, kidney disease are higher because of alcohol. Spousal abuse is caused by alcohol. Will stop here.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-06 21:59

    Back to the days of moonshine.

  • Barry Edwards - 2011-09-06 22:07

    Just ban alcohol entirely. Then there is no need to discuss it. Unfortunately the government makes so much money on the sales of the damn stuff.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-09-06 22:24

      If alcohol is banned, it will just go underground. There are enough laws in place to control alcohol abuse. The law is just not doing it's job.

      Badballie - 2011-09-07 14:09

      Sorry Barry, doesn't work, During America's prohibition, the sale and use of alcohol increased it didn't decrease. also overpopulation is directly linked to crime, US studies and report conclusively prove that 30 years (almost to the day) after each of the individual states legalized abortion there was a corresponding decrease of in the region of 30% in the crime rate for each of those states

  • davidlebogang.mataboge - 2011-09-06 22:10

    Its so shameful to see Government put their blames to alcohol,what about drugs that destroy our communities,youth are turning to drug because they are tired of empty promises.look at a drug called NYAOPE,harmful mo than alcohol.banning alcohol adverts would never stop alcohol abuse.the government must great more job opportunities espacially for the poor and the youths

      Casie - 2011-09-06 22:14

      They will ban drugs advertising! Oh, wait...they can't... Oh, I know: Lets's blame reporters or whites or public protector!

  • Jamesons - 2011-09-06 22:18

    You can ban advertising and I will still drink my beers/brandy. So you can’t stop me, the only thing you will be doing is creating unemployment in the advertising industry. Can’t wait for Friday to have a nice cold one with mates around a braai.

      Lekabisto - 2011-09-07 08:22

      Not to mention they will be fattening the pockets of stakeholders in the Alcohol industry in anyway, since they will be saving on advertising.

  • elspeth.hassall - 2011-09-06 22:23

    I thought this was a country that prided itself on freedom....freedom means you have a all our "Freedom Fighters" can do is ban everything .....BYE BYE FREEDOM...............Cry for the beloved country.....

  • AquaticApe - 2011-09-06 22:25

    Alcohol is the most destructive drug we have in SA. It is directly and indirectly responsible for untold deaths, suffering and misery. Banning it would be a mistake and would not curb its use but not glamorising it by eliminating advertising could ultimately reduce its use and abuse just as it has done with tobacco.

  • Philip Kleynhans - 2011-09-06 22:28

    You can ban alcohol ads. Its not going to stop me from drinking. So Liquor stores are going to save lots of money from not placing ads anymore. Whats the odds

      happycamper - 2011-09-07 08:53

      cheers to that

  • crackerr - 2011-09-06 23:57

    Alcohol use will NEVER diminish in this country. ANC, you think you can solve all the social ills with bans on this and that? Don't make enemies out of friends.

  • crackerr - 2011-09-07 00:15

    If you do not ban alcohol outright (impossible, we will give you the gaddafi treatment immediately) you will have to accept the less exquisite brands if you ban alcohol adverts. Nobody tries to take away your tea. Leave the rest of us to our succulents.

  • crackerr - 2011-09-07 00:55

    South Africans and the multitudes of others within our borders will not drink less. We do not need a return to the days of skokian drinking. Allow the reputable liquor companies and outlets to present to the people the best they have to offer.

  • Steve - 2011-09-07 04:19

    Really?? okay did banning cigarette ads stop people smoking ???? has banning drugs stopped people from taking them. The crimes resulting in alcohol abuse goes a lot deeper than just the consumption of alcohol. If only our politicians were mature rational human beings..........well then they wouldn't be politicians I suppose.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-07 08:42

      Must admit...I did stop smoking.... but I doubd I will stop drinking!

  • Chillibean - 2011-09-07 05:08

    yes, yes, YES! It's ABOUT TIME! We are fighting unemployment, poverty, alcohol, indiscriminate breeding, drugs and crime and the WORST of these is ALCOHOL. Well done!

  • Deeteem - 2011-09-07 05:16

    How about banning the manufacture and sale of cheap wine known to be the downfall of many people AND THAT IS WITHOUT ADVERTISING !!

  • Stateman - 2011-09-07 06:31


  • Ryan Tunney - 2011-09-07 06:36

    Thank goodness for least we won't have to see those false multi-racial adverts where where it looks like we're all living in perfect harmony in South Africa.

      Jamesons - 2011-09-07 11:09


  • Spookhuis - 2011-09-07 07:20

    Ja, with our over weight cops I sincerely hope they ban KFC ads too. Nothing like a beer and a bucket.

  • A View - 2011-09-07 07:21

    Rapid slide into a nanny state. Ban motor car ads because people die in accidents.

  • Spookhuis - 2011-09-07 07:26

    If they really want to reduce alcohol use ban the "GATE WAY" drinks. ie all the coolers that the companies use to entice the young ones to start drinking. Ban Breezer, Spin etc

  • Kishore Doodnath - 2011-09-07 07:29

    Start by banning alcopops which are aimed at our kids.

  • Willem van Rensburg - 2011-09-07 07:41

    I think we should ban stupid ministers

  • Unis - 2011-09-07 07:47

    Personally, I do not agree with this. It should be controlled, rather than banned. Same with cigarette advertising. It's a little naive to think that banning adverts will stop use/abuse. Example: there's not advertising for Tik, yet it's a huge problem here in the Western Cape.

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-09-07 07:47

    Banning advertising will not achieve anything. Humans will just go back to bootlegging! Perhaps a campaign on responsible drinking might work if thought out properly?

  • Ross - 2011-09-07 08:00

    Now we know why the National Party Government prohibited Blacks from bying White man's alcoholic drinks.

  • DeonOlivier - 2011-09-07 08:03

    Another brain dead idea from a brain dead government how many jobs are you wiping out now? Aaron Who is going to sponser the Bokke, Bafana Bafana I wish the EU and WHO would take a disprin and dissolve, useless socialist Fascists. Governments must get the hell out of business and go F- UP the parastatels

  • Riks - 2011-09-07 08:10

    I think it is a brilliant idea. Cigarette adverts were banned but no alcohol ads. Even though cigarettes are really bad for you, it does not destroy families for is the cause of a wife/child to land in the hospital with broken bones or messed up face. Please ban it!!!

  • Riks - 2011-09-07 08:11

    I think it is a brilliant idea. Cigarette adverts were banned but no alcohol ads. Even though cigarettes are really bad for you, it does not destroy families for is the cause of a wife/child to land in the hospital with broken bones or messed up face. Please ban it!!!

  • SilentGenius - 2011-09-07 08:14

    I cant remember when I saw an advert on television for a "Papsak" or other low end wine/alcohol. They are targetting the wrong market. By banning an advert of Johnnie Walker or Mainstay, people are not going to buy less whiskey or cane.

  • Mart - 2011-09-07 08:17

    What a waste of time and money. The distillers will now be able to pass on what they save from paying advertising etc (multi-millions) and make booze cheaper and more accessible. This is a little like banning masturbation to stop unwanted pregnancies and.....hey hang on that's not right, maybe we should all........

  • HardHitter - 2011-09-07 08:20

    The government is full of doctors. Treating the symptoms and not the cause. If someone rapes, murders, commit crime, deal with that, discipline them, punich them. Oh, Mandela's human rights prohibit discipline and punichment for crime. Banning alcohol advertising is just gonna put lots of people out of work, and also be reminded that blacks occupy more posisitons than whites. Banning sigarette advertising didn't do buggerall. Its like the speeding thing, its not the alchohol, its the driver. If someone is involved in an accident , its ususally a person having a habit of bad driving, whether drunk or not.

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