Army, police at ANC festivities

2012-01-03 22:17

Bloemfontein - The army and police will help secure the ANC's centenary celebrations in Mangaung this week, the party said on Tuesday.

Due to the size of the event, and with foreign dignitaries present, the party's own security staff would not be able to handle it on their own, African National Congress spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said.

"Government has come aboard and the military and police will be ready."

Local media reported that the airspace around Bloemfontein would be restricted between January 5 and 10. A higher-than-usual amount of air traffic was expected.

Mthembu said the ANC was happy with its organising committee's preparations for the centenary. Several heads of state and former foreign leaders were expected to attend the event over the coming weekend.

The main celebration would start on Friday. On Sunday party leader President Jacob Zuma would deliver the annual January 8 speech.

On Saturday there would be inter-cultural events at the Mangaung outdoor sports grounds and a music show.

Many national ANC leaders were already in the Free State doing door-to-door visits to make sure local party members attended the festivities. ANC national executive committee members would visit all the regions in the Free State until Saturday.

Mthembu said bus routes had been established in every region to transport party members to Bloemfontein.

"Buses and trains would also bring members from the Western Cape, Gauteng and other provinces to Mangaung."

The ANC had invited about 6 000 guests. About 800 journalists had applied for accreditation to cover the event.

Mthembu said the party was expecting about 100 000 people to visit the Free State capital, where the ANC was formed a century ago, over the weekend.

  • Henning - 2012-01-03 22:24

    What a waste of the tax payer's hard earned buck!

      Martha Cde Mphara - 2012-01-03 22:29

      Always complain bt nt acting

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-03 22:41

      The appropriate action would be to withold tax... wonder what the African Nepotist Circus would do then?

      Irene - 2012-01-04 00:11

      Tamara ~ Withholding tax is the only way to go because the ignorant majority who vote these swines into power have no concept of what paying tax is all about. It is for this reason that the ANCriminals keep them out of the tax queue. Without tax the scum cannot function and I for one am getting very tired of handing over PAYE and VAT to them. Quite happy to put it into a lawyer's trust account though.

      Graham - 2012-01-04 01:01

      Why are there so many hate-filled bigotted comments on I never meet these people in real life?

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-04 01:08

      What's racist about protesting against a corrupt regime? A regime that is tearing this country apart racially itself, and which is squandering much needed public money on wasteful excess? If the ANC were a white party, would you consider any of these comments racist, given their track record? I know there are some racists on this site, but I can assure you, I am not one of them. I detested the Nats, I detested the ideals of the Nazis, and I detest similar hate filled, useless dictatorships, which in this case is the ANC. It's not a black or white thing. It's a good governance thing.

      Michael - 2012-01-04 01:09

      Graham - 2012-01-04 01:36

      @Tamara - who mentioned race?! The ANC and the DA are both multi-racial - I can name mps of all races from both parties - no need to label parties by colour either.

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-04 01:42

      So what are you talking about then? If it's bigoted to call a corrupt, lying, thieving party what they are, then yes. I am a bigot. If it's hate filled to despise a party that is deepening the hole that the National Party dug South Africa into, then yes, I am hate filled. Otherwise, I have no clue what you are talking about.

      Dirk - 2012-01-04 06:06

      John- Yes, you need to include the crusades. Before the crusaders left on their journeys of plunder and murder, they were blessed and "forgiven" by the pope.All this took place under the banner of a cross- a false one, just as the cross on the popes robe is a Maltese cross, an occultic one. While the crusaders pretended to be Christians, they were in fact atheist and pagan gangsters, masquerading as "christians"

      Squeegee - 2012-01-04 06:32

      With how many millions does this push up the bill for this booze-up?

      Sharkshoot - 2012-01-04 09:11

      The ANC clearly fear for their safety. I wonder who or what they expect to disrupt their patee? I foresee a lot of powlees and sojaas will get drunk on that day...

      Thando - 2012-01-04 09:20

      @Graham - while I also hate the corruption of the ANC , TamaraSays and others have always used that as an excuse to post racist comments here.

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-04 11:14

      I have never, nor will I ever, post a racist comment on here Thando. I've always said that stupidity and being a crook transcends race. Although apparently, you DO have the memory of a fruit fly.

      John - 2012-01-04 13:02

      Battle of Tours 10/10/732 christian side “ Later Christian chroniclers praised Martel as the champion of Christianity, the battle as the decisive turning point in the struggle against Islam, which preserved Christianity as the religion of Europe; according to modern military historian V D Hanson, "most of the 18th and 19th century historians, like Gibbon, saw Poitiers (Tours), as a landmark battle that marked the high tide of the Muslim advance into Europe."[10] Leopold von Ranke felt that "Poitiers was the turning point of one of the most important epochs in the history of the world."[11] “ muslim side: ‘ Khalid Yahya Blankinship argued the military defeat at Tours was one of the failures that contributed to the decline of the Umayyad caliphate: "from Morocco to China, the Umayyad caliphate based its expansion and success on the doctrine of jihad—armed struggle to claim the whole earth for God's rule, had brought much material success for a century suddenly ground to a halt followed by the collapse of the ruling Umayyad dynasty in 750 AD. End of the Jihad State demonstrates that the cause of this collapse not just from internal conflict, as claimed, but from a number of external and concurrent factors that exceeded the caliphate's capacity to respond. External factors began with crushing military defeats at Byzantium, Toulouse and Tours, which led to the Great Berber Revolt of 740 in Iberia and Northern Africa." Since way back then they were into “ jihad “!

      Graham - 2012-01-04 15:18

      Yeah and many people give credit where it is do. In its 100 year history, the ANC has achieved a lot including dismantling a totalitarian regime. It has given the world icons of forgiveness and reconciliation etc etc. Why begrudge them a celebration for the anniversary? Compare Soweto in 1990 with nowadays - there are areas in Soweto with attractive real-estate now. Of course the ANC has massive problems nowadays, but the DA have managed to nullify justified criticism of these problems by never giving credit where it is due, and sometimes forgetting the context of South Africa's history...

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-04 17:38

      @Phuti, it's TAX PAYER MONEY. Just because they happen to be in a managerial position, that does NOT give the ANC the right to treat tax money as their personal piggy bank. They thieve enough as it is! @Graham, the only similarity between the ANC party of today, and the ANC movement of the past is the name. Just ask all the thousands of WHITE ANC supporters from the days of the struggle - the ANC of today is a RACIST, THIEVING, morally bankrupt shell of it's former self, that is an insult to the history and the name.

      Ananiusse - 2012-01-04 20:52


      John - 2012-01-05 05:31

      Hey Martha da mamphara, I see someone lifted the rock you've been hiding under again. Get back under there immediately racist.

  • Denver - 2012-01-03 22:28

    Being the ruling party does not give the ANC the right to use the Army and Police as it's own private security force. Will the ANC re-imburse the government coffers for the expenses relating to this?

      spartanx93 - 2012-01-03 22:56

      simple answer.... no! Cause they dont give a crap about you & I and the rest of the country.

      Irene - 2012-01-04 00:01

      Smanga ~ Err, what is there to envy?

      Farta - 2012-01-04 01:19

      They could give a toss about you and me and where the money for this comes from. This is just another great opportunity for them to do what they do best: Chimp-out...

      Van - 2012-01-04 01:28

      inter-cultural : Rape and plunder?

      Squeegee - 2012-01-04 06:34

      The real winners will be family members who got the tenders to cater, provide services etc. Large part of the R400 mil will eventually end up in ANC member's own pockets.

  • Daryl - 2012-01-03 22:34

    you want to party yet your people starve!

      Squeegee - 2012-01-04 06:35

      "Let them eat cake", is the ANC policy.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-04 09:53

      Just yesterday, I stopped at the traffic light and saw two boys, about 14 years old, juggling and doing other tricks, in the hope of getting some change from passing motorists, so they can try and feed themselves. This 6 day party is a big up yours to the very people that vote for them. The whole attitude of entitlement from the ANC elite makes me want to vomit all over their KFC.

      tacod - 2012-01-04 10:22

      The ANC does not care about the starving masses, the companies that go down because the incompetent people that are employed does not pay their bills, the crime in the country, the lack of service delivery, the fact that the tenderpreneurs steal more than they contribute. The ANC only worry about how much they can spend for their own benefit, the mines that they want to nationalize, Affirmative Action, BEE, BBBEE, their own pockets and hiding corruption.

  • Riaan - 2012-01-03 22:36

    Fortunately not everyone party like a bunch wussies... Some of us party like real MEN

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 09:33

      Real men don't party, real men PROVIDE, only fools party and waste, MAKING OTHERS RICH

  • Martha Cde Mphara - 2012-01-03 22:38

    Viva anc viva! Viva 100yrs viva- viva cdes ancyl viva, viva womans league viva... Viva mother body viva... Viva MK VIVA.. Viva mkhondo viva. Viva our leaders viva. Viva loyalty 100years.

      Riaan - 2012-01-03 22:57

      Viva stupidity, viva!

      Dave - 2012-01-03 23:07

      THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR STUPIDITY. As Forrest Gump said " Stupid is as Stupid Duz". You should know, after 17 years the ANC has lost its heritage. As a movement , ask yourselves, "HAVE WE LOOKED AFTER OURSELVES, AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE WE PROMISED TO SERVE."

      Azande - 2012-01-03 23:32

      @Dave and Riaan, cry baby cry....bring some kleenex please?

      Squeegee - 2012-01-04 06:40

      Martha Mamphara, if you keep quiet some people might think you are stupid, unfortunately you opened your mouth and now the whole country knows it for a fact.

      Gail - 2012-01-04 07:57

      yes and viva corruption, viva nepotism, viva muti killers, viva farm murders, viva starvation, viva unemployment, viva no service delivery, viva no houses...........yep, viva anc!!!!!

      Jacques Jacobs - 2012-01-04 08:42

      Dear Martha, I have several points you made before that I would like to dispute: 1) If you want to give this country back to people that are not invaders here, you need to leave too. YOUR OWN history admits that your forefathers got here barely a hundred years before the first Europeans. The only way that I will go 'home' as you call it is if you do too. Oh wait, your people have screwed Mozambique and Zimbabwe (where you came from) up too so now they are following you here to do the same here. My sincerest apologies that your attitude did not work in building those countries to greatness. Please wake up, drop the attitude and do not do the same to OUR beautiful country). So VIVA to the true owners of South Africa, VIVA to the Khoi people. 2) If you knew all of the above, it would have been because of INTELLIGENCE and you would have DESERVED the HIGH position you find yourself in. Because you didn't and because of you bad attitude, you have proven to the world that you only got to where you are because of skin colour. I feel sorry for you. 3) If you REALLY CARED about OUR country you would not brag about tax money getting squandered but you would have fought for it to be used to improve peoples lives but you don't. All you care about is YOU and I must admit, according to your forefathers, that is very un-African. Enjoy your riches while it lasts because YOUR precious ANC is making this country head the same way as our neighbours and the riches won't last long. Just the two cents worth of a poor white guy (yes, we DO exist) Oh yes, when it comes to your spelling: aparintlee edjimkashin works eh...

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 09:42

      It's Martha de Mampara another ANC zombie wakes up because of a free party, who cares if they screwed us these past 17 years viva viva, who cares if they made themselves rich and we are still poor viva viva, even if we have to suffer another 100 years viva viva, it does not matter if we got an idiot as a president as long as he is black viva viva.

      Deon - 2012-01-04 10:12

      Viva ANC, does not give you work (50% of black youths are unemployed). Viva something is wrong.

  • Alva - 2012-01-03 22:45

    The ANC need SAPS and the SANDF present at their shindig. After a few tots of karate water things could get out of hand.

  • Renier - 2012-01-03 23:24

    I am new to reading the news on the Internet. Reading the comments gave me the impression that it will be a good thing to do as the ideas and thoughts of other people will broaden my knowledge regarding the general opinion. Sadly after a few days I have just realized that the comments made hardly ever turn up useful ideas or thoughts, instead it's only political bickering or personal insults which serves no purpose.

      Oneant - 2012-01-04 01:55

      welcome to the internet.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 10:00

      If you think useful ideas would be used by this government we would write them all day, we come here just to blow off steam due to the frustration of not being able to get thru to these wastefull selfserving bastards, even if you cut open el predidente's scull and could pour the good ideas into his brain he would reject it, because it's white ideas and he and his government would not be able to steal and enrich themselves, we always get clowns like you coming on these forums thinking that good ideas are actually listened to by the zombies in power, therefore the only thing we have left is insults maybe just maybe it will penetrate their thick skins someday

      Renier - 2012-01-04 11:23

      @jerhone: Again all you can do is insult. You should rethink your status where after you might realize that you are the clown. I never said that the government is reading these comments let alone considering implementing any ideas if given. By "letting of steam" your way you are doing exactly what the government wants - a divided nation is needed for them to stay in power - Political bickering and race affiliated insults are excellent fuel to keep the division alive. People then vote against what is correct simply out of principle not giving their choice any proper thought. If you would like to see a change in the way the government operate or even a new government people should stop "letting of steam" your way.

      Renier - 2012-01-04 11:57

      @Oneant: Is it ok to try to be positive or is forums like these only for those in need of insulting others? If it's the trend I am wasting my time.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 12:42

      TO Renier if you are willing to bend over year after year and take their insults to our intellegence, thats up to you, so what do you want me to do ?praise them for the mother of all corruption and theft? do you think THAT would make them see the light? So i should not say what needs to be said? this is your brainwave to change the wrongs they are doing, i'm sorry but if i'm a clown then you must be the king of clowns i'll call you KRUSTY the clown

      Renier - 2012-01-04 12:50

      To be critical while stating the facts should be done without insulting a person. Should this party cost R 500mil it surely is a waste of money. 6250 RDP houses can be build or the availability of fresh water and proper sanitation could have been alleviated for quite a number of people.

      John - 2012-01-05 09:17

      Renier, got a brilliant idea for you.....LOG OUT

      Ndzimeni Thendo - 2012-01-05 12:07

      maturity is on ur side. Keep it up good comments

  • Obie - 2012-01-03 23:29 and housing... no no .. lets bring in the army

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-03 23:36

      But of course. It's a 'let them eat cake' mentality. And we all know how that ended...

      Yar - 2012-01-04 07:41

      Correction Tamara "Let us eat the cake, there will be f-all left for anyone else."

  • Azande - 2012-01-03 23:44

    Bring them all, airforce, police and even sadf...oops no not SADF, SANDF

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 10:09

      Sorry Azande Message just recieved from the minister of defence who knows nothing about defence, just got word from her 2000 generals that the new INKONTWE WANTS SWEETS (THE SANDF) will not be able to attend the celebrations because half of them have aids and the other half is still on strike

  • afroduckk - 2012-01-03 23:55

    Total waste of money and Police resources , they are needed elsewhere in the country.

  • Phil - 2012-01-04 00:06

    Marta die Mamparra ( not the one working in my home, as she have class), you are a sorry excuse for a person who tried to defend your party. It's my guess that you and Mal Emma were together in the std 4 woodwork class and that you are the product of his std 4 project. You are pathetic.

  • John - 2012-01-04 00:13

    They predict the "party" will cost tax payers R 500mil. At 100000 guests thats R 5000 a head. Not a bad party we paying for.... and thats excluding the cost to the army and SAPS

  • gerhard.germishuys - 2012-01-04 00:18

    Even the head of the ANC youth league has to pay for his own security……… Let the tax payer fit the bill……………………….. HOW MANY JOBS ARE YOU CREATING ???????????? HOW MAY KIDS SCHOOL FEES ARE YOU PAYING ???????????? Let the people suffer……..the ANC is having a party

  • Michael Woody Wood - 2012-01-04 00:22

    Well,somebody has to guard the mercs.make sure nobody steals the rolex watches.these thieves hate compitition.

  • Michael - 2012-01-04 01:09

  • Donovan - 2012-01-04 02:43

    Well with the police and the army there, you'll have that many more criminals at the biggest gathering of gangsters this century.

  • Comrademayete - 2012-01-04 03:31

    Why so much hatred????it boogles my mind that such scum is given space on news 24.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 10:22

      to Comrade dumbarse who confuses hatred with truth and has the b*lls to call others who care for the poor of this country scum, you my man will make a great president of this country because your brain has also been starved of oxygen for more than twenty minutes like your present elpresidente of REPUBLIQUE DE BANANA

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2012-01-04 03:50

    It is only in SA where people celebrate failure or are they celebrating the accumulation of personal wealth? What an orgy it would be! It will be beer, bonking and barbeque. Free transport and plate for propaganda and votes. More looting deals will be signed with Xing Xeng. They are going to share that R500m amongst themselves in the name of service providers.

      Beetroot - 2012-01-04 06:23

      Tshivi - We are dealing with a very small group of corrupt self centered politicians who use the ANC flag to network and besiege the masses. Do the average black voters really get a piece of the pie in any form? Seriously it wont help to try and point this out because the blindfold of liberation is in its 17th year of celebration and thats all they need to dance up and down to. This year it will be another billion Rand down the toilet in the form of 'ANC celebration' No one will ever benefit in this country unless a true Bantu leader can stand up and rule with virtue.

  • Deeteem - 2012-01-04 05:23

    An old Afrikaans saying comes to mind here : "Hulle sit oore aan ons" !!

  • Des - 2012-01-04 07:14

    Restricted air space?? .....okay, I see. Probably some blue lights on some planes!!

  • Dinky - 2012-01-04 07:44

    @ Martha Cde Mphara If you are who your facebook profile says you are - then you are an extremely dangerous instigator and "bladdy Agent" to quote your beloved Jelly Tot. I can only conclude that you are a planted "troll" "hack" to stir emotions and engender racial hatred. Do not bother sissie - SABC will do that job in the coming year with far more competence as the sausage machine dishes out propaganda of glorious heroes. Which they were - their motives were "freedom" whereas today it is "MONEY MONEY" and cheap cheap swank. Why do you provoke racism with your insults to several 'generations' born white South Africans who are law abiding and pay taxes ? Your surname is foreign - therefore, I, an Octogenarian descendant of the Huguenots- duplicates your stance - " go back to where you came from" - you are toxic to my nation. The JOB you fill, can be given to a genuine BORN and BRED South African. You are the personification of why there is racism and why us pale faces disdain your pretense at being civilized. I have NEVER been as virulently "racist" as I am today. Circumstances AND consequences - are the reason. My fellow black people have become estranged and think that they built this country. It is THEIR country. The rest of AFRICA is the best example I can give about "their country syndrome." I doubt you have heard of "Walter Mitty." Ag shame tog my poor child.

  • Robi - 2012-01-04 07:49

    Safety at our homes first before to the crowd. We must sleep aknowledging that the morning is certain.

  • Archie - 2012-01-04 07:50

    This is an ANC event,how come joe citizens tax money is paying for the extravaganza?Are the foreign dignitaries getting everything mahala again? Why the hell do they need so much security?Probably because Bob is coming, there are millions of his expats who would love to meet him.Originally the ANC said they will pay for their party in ovs.No bets on who are really paying on this show.Until the politically blind can see this will not stop.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 16:55

      I can understand the ANC using money for a free p*ss up while the poor are homeless and hungry because they have zombie brains and no conscience, but what i find so dificult to swallow is that foreign so called intelligent first world states who have sophistcated intell gathering, feel nothing about attending a party which takes food and housing out of the reach of the poor AG SIES MAN

  • Willem - 2012-01-04 08:01

    Yes I wondered what the bill for the tax payers is going to be. Subsidies to NPO's are late. Hospitals and schools bills are late, even the markers for the matric exams have not been paid on time. The priority seems like the party.

  • Christopher - 2012-01-04 08:14

    Yadda, yadda, yadda ... let them eat cake!

  • MoAfrika - 2012-01-04 08:21

    Stay mad. VIVA ANC!

  • Thozi - 2012-01-04 08:25

    Yesterday (03/01/12)on SABC's TV3 news, women from a poverty-stricken community in Limpopo were drawing dirty water from a river for (human) consumption. One of them, alleged that they'd been apealing to the government for the provision of clean water, but their plea had so far, fallen on deaf ears. I again asked myself this question: Would the ANC's 100th celebration not have been more relevant if they'd spent the R100 million on the improvement of the poor and vulnerable people instead of blowing it on parties for the super-rich, tenderpreneurs in their super-luxury cars, heads of failed states like Mugabe and others, etc. etc. etc. etc. If they really cared for the under-privileged people, would they continue to ignore them?

  • myfriendshane - 2012-01-04 09:14

    It seems that if you post something positive, News 24 deletes it. How on earth can there be a debate, if only select opinions are retained.

      Thando - 2012-01-04 10:23

      Welcome to News24. I have had the same experiences

  • bgaertz - 2012-01-04 09:28


  • ludlowdj - 2012-01-04 09:34

    Considering that the ANC makes unilateral decisions in its capacity as the "Government" its no surprise they "came on board" whats they bet they even insisted in carrying all the celebrations costs as a show of good faith to the ANC as well. If South Africans have any self respect or dignity this is the last time the ANC will hold power in this country, but I suppose as normal the masses don't mind being robbed as long as the robbers are their own colour.

  • Margaret - 2012-01-04 09:52

    Why do the ANC consider it neccessary to have the police and army at there 100th celebration bash, it is because they know that most of them that will be attending are crimminals??? The police were employed at the tax payers expense to fight crime not attend parties....have the ANC no shame????????

      Refilwe IronMan Rakoma - 2012-01-05 00:50

      Have you no shame, the ANC is the reason we have freedom in this country, they have fought for the rights of all south africans for the last 100 years, I think thats worth a celebration.

      Margaret - 2012-01-05 08:59

      @Refilwe IronMan Rakoma I am ashamed of the ANC using that kind of money for a celebration that could have been used for those who are in need of houses and basic services. Since the ANC got into power education levels have dropped, hospitals are in a terrible state and crime is at an alarming rate, even in our own homes people are no longer safe...I dont consider that as having freedom so for me there is nothing to celebrate

      Azande - 2012-01-14 09:17

      thats the dumest thing ever if you know any politics they were heads of state there you had to protected if they wearn't things could have gone very wrong ... think women

  • Matema - 2012-01-04 10:03

    cant we do sumthing beta with dis billions mara??

  • tacod - 2012-01-04 10:09

    hopefully the anc would contribute to the treasury for the overtime that the state will need to pay in overtime for the police and the army members, oh, i forgot, the anc think that the state and the treasury belongs to them so they can spend and waste funds anyway they would like to. They would not want to be seen as underspending on celebrations, but they are willing to underspend on infrastructure, services to the people that actually contribute to the treasury.

  • Thando - 2012-01-04 11:34

    @TamaraSays - Now you're a liar as well

      TamaraSays - 2012-01-04 12:19

      Please link me to a single article on this platform where I have EVER been racist? You, however, are clearly an idiot, and as I said, that transcends race, unfortunately.

  • Holomo - 2012-01-04 15:32

    When the Boks or the Bulls are playing at Loftus there are police deployed there because the Rugby Union security is not enough...nobody makes silly noise about it. Why are you moaning now?

      Jerhone - 2012-01-04 17:04

      It's called serving and protecting the PUBLIC who pay their salaries,why would a statesman or president need such an overkill of security? unless he is afraid of his own people and done them an injustice, it's very seldom that someone would want to kill or harm an innocent and honest man you do the math

      tacod - 2012-01-12 09:52

      Even then , the police charge the specific rugby union for services delivered. This does not come for free you know.

  • Cina - 2012-01-04 15:57

    What a great opportunity for ......

  • Cina - 2012-01-04 15:59

    Ok all the skelms can go rampant the next couple of days, because there will be no police available not that there ever is. Forget about the normal citizens of the country that needs protection.

  • Peter - 2012-01-04 17:57

    Ngwato,i think the past goverment ya kgatelelo was corupt and lots of tax payers cash was squashed exatly the same way this so called ANC criminals are doing but they only differd because the past apartheid regim's service delievery was up todate that is why you couldn't spot any wrong doings again how were we going to as most of the senior positions were occupied by whites who had all powers to sign off what ever.bottom line is Yes there is very corrupt officials in most of Goverment's top positions but not all those positions are occupied by the rullling party members in the true sense lets stop being biase'when the whites were in power everything seemed hungy-dorry now the same crocodiles in sheep skins are critizing everything because their turn came and vanished,beacuse of them being selfish their pockets are still empty.We need to work towards finding a workable solutions rather than critizing ANC for nothing.remember it is because of the same ANC that we stay were we want as long as u have ure hard earned cash saved.

      John - 2012-01-05 05:53

      Peter, I agree with you, all governments in the world are corrupt, but getting back to the situation in SA, yes the Nats were corrupt and would sign off everything that they wanted too. But SA would not be so advanced if it wasn't for their management. On the other hand look around you at the rest of Southern Africa, greed has destroyed their countries and if we don't do anything about it here we will be another Zimgabe.

  • Mohsin - 2012-01-05 13:11

    tsek anc!!! jou ma se ******

  • Koekies - 2012-01-05 14:01

    We thank you for paying your taxes :-)

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