Ball in Zuma's court on Cele, minister

2011-07-14 22:24

Johannesburg - The SAPS will respond to a public protector report on alleged maladministration in the procurement of leases for police office space early next week.

They needed more time to study the document, which was released on Thursday, Major General Nonkululeko Mbatha, spokesperson for National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele said.

It was handed to the SAPS two hours before journalists got it, she said.

In her report Madonsela recommends President Jacob Zuma should act against Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde for failing to co-operate with a probe into two controversial building leases for the police.

The presidency said it received the protector's report on Thursday afternoon, and that President Zuma will comment on it after it had been studied and discussed.

Madonsela notes alleged maladministration and improper and unlawful conduct by the department of public works and the SA Police Service in the leasing of office space in Durban.

The 10-year lease was worth R1.16bn.

The release of the document came four months after an initial report into a R500m lease for similar office space in Pretoria, signed between national police commissioner General Bheki Cele and property tycoon Roux Shabangu. She found the agreement between the two "fundamentally flawed and invalid".

Total disregard

Earlier on Thursday, the Democratic Alliance called for the immediate dismissal of National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele.

In view of the findings announced by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela regarding the SA Police Service (SAPS) lease deals scandal, the DA would ask President Zuma for Cele's immediate dismissal, as well as any other individuals implicated in Madonsela's report, DA spokesperson Dianne Kohler-Barnard said.

Kohler-Barnard said as the accounting officer of the SAPS, Cele held ultimate responsibility for the financial decisions made by his department.

In both the protector's reports, Cele had been found to be responsible for the unlawful conduct and maladministration that resulted in the abuse of over a billion rand's worth of state funds.

"The manner in which the SAPS lease deals in question were conducted indicates a total disregard, on the part of both Bheki Cele and Public Works Minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde for the checks and balances designed to prevent the abuse of public funds.

"If these are not grounds for the national police commissioner's dismissal, it is hard to imagine what is, and indeed, should the president refuse this request, we believe he would be in breach of his sworn duty to uphold law and order in this land," Kohler-Barnard said.

It was also imperative that remedial action be taken swiftly against Mahlangu-Nkabinde, whose conduct the protector described as having "failed to meet the requisite stewardship expected from her", she said.

Accept responsibility

The series of events following Madonsela's first report were of serious concern.

Madonsela called for further investigation and urgent remedial action to be taken against the implicated officials but there had been no visible response by the relevant authorities.

"On the contrary, Commissioner Cele hit back, refused to accept responsibility for his wrongdoing, and questioned the public protector's impartiality."

Shortly after the release of the report, the SAPS "raided" her offices.

Then, last week Independent Newspapers reported that Madonsela was being investigated for fraud and corruption.

"Despite President Zuma publicly stating his support for the work of the public protector, his administration's repeated failure to act on the recommendations put forward by Advocate Madonsela's office tell another story.

"The DA calls on President Jacob Zuma to prove his commitment to the values on which our democracy is based, and to abide by his repeated promises to root out corruption in government, by dismissing the National Police Commissioner and any other individuals who are implicated in the public protector's report," she said.

Won't be intimidated

The Inkatha Freedom Party has also given Madonsela its backing, saying it supports the public protector's quest to stop corruption and maladministration.

"Advocate Madonsela has proven that she will not be intimidated... that she will not be deterred from investigating improper and prejudicial conduct, maladministration and abuse of power in state affairs," IFP Chief Whip Koos van der Merwe said in a statement on Thursday.

The IFP echoed the DA's call for Cele to be dismissed.

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-07-14 22:30

    Its amazing that this report is handed to the SAPS and the President 2 hours before Madonsela takes to the Press. I bet She's on a mission.

      Dave Black - 2011-07-14 22:46

      They already had an opportunity to respond to draft weeks ago, idiot!

      Dave Black - 2011-07-14 22:47

      And Yes - she's a mission to protect the public from ANC idiots

      SimonP - 2011-07-14 23:00

      @myancidiot, its called transparency. Her mission is to do her job unlike most ANC cadres.

      GT - 2011-07-14 23:11

      She is the PUBLIC protector, unline menzi and dramat who are ANC protectors. In a free society there is NOTHING the public should not know. What government anywhere in the world would you trust with self increminating evidence. With the police now only able to investigate criminal charges (scorpions killed) we have little hope of regular criminal prosecution.

      Azazel - 2011-07-14 23:33

      Zuma will give him a promotion for learning the ANC trade well!! Congratulations Mr. Cele on passing corruption 101!

      Thats_that - 2011-07-15 02:57

      Its amazing that you think the ANZ has a future.

      daaivark - 2011-07-15 07:05

      What's so amazing about that, myancmydownfall? She fulfilled her legal obligation, which is a damned side more than can be said of the alleged culprits. Her conduct has been above reproach. Gorilla, does that sit OK with you? Positive enough?

      USSA - 2011-07-15 07:08

      @ myancmyfutur Every comment you have made concerning this case in all related articles relate to pointing a finger at the person who is after justice. Are you seriously that much of an idiot? Show some restraint and logic might cling to you at some point.

      BigD - 2011-07-15 07:28

      Yes, myancmynonfutur. She is on a mission, to root out corruption in SA and report it. She is just doing her job. Why is that so difficult for you to understand.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:42

      Yeah, on a mission to expose corruption. I hope she succeeds

      DJI - 2011-07-15 07:49

      This is another job for SUPER CHIMP

      Creeky - 2011-07-15 08:04

      "..........and that President Zuma will comment on it after it had been studied and discussed." ZUMA will study the report..... " ONE WORD AT A TIME......... SWEET JESUS"!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!! Wonder what his SPIN DOCTORS are going to come up with this time?

      McDaNife - 2011-07-15 08:05

      As I said yesterday lets see if the president has the balls to act and act swiftly too.

      HONKY101 - 2011-07-15 08:08

      You get what you vote for, get it, got it, good !!!!!!!!!!

      melchiedek - 2011-07-15 08:15

      you idiot you should read before you comment,comrade zuma its time to show the country if you have confidence in the public protectors ofiice.just act decisively and stop being biased for your credibility.act on those recommendations yours is to implement.

      Clive - 2011-07-15 08:42

      Of course she's on a mission. It's her job to uncover all the crooked dealings carried out by government officials at the expense of taxpayers - which I assume you are not.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-07-15 10:14

      We should forever be greatful to the ANC for the fall of the Apartheid regime where Cele would have been arrested and sentenced to 20 years without trial. If a report comes to the President 2 hours before it goes to the Media and you all expect Him to have acted in the 2hours you're mad. He has to study it, seek legal opinion, ask questions from both cele and Madonsela maybe act after that. from where I see it I think Cele is a victim of a conspiracy to tarnish His good name.

      amdisgusted - 2011-07-15 11:23

      @myancmyfutur - Of course she is on a mission - to protect her life, you nincompoop!!!

      Sparxi - 2011-07-15 13:31

      @mamf- seriously, dude, everyone's had the draft report for weeks already, it's even been out in the public domain. There would only be changes to the draft if those receiving the report had required those changes. SAPS should know what their own response (if any) contained. If changes were significant, another draft would have been circulated. To now say that they saw the report only 2 hours before is ridiculous and a little condescending to say the least...

      Amazedd - 2011-07-15 20:24

      To preident Zuma,Please look into this objectively.Currently the dept of Public works has a programme called the PIP programme.My understanding with it is that if there is a building procurement to be done and there is a black property owner,that person does not need to go through the tender process,reason being that the % that is currently spend by gvrmnt on leasing property from Black owners is below 5% of their total spend hence the move with PIP programme.The fact is the landscape of Property industry will not change to encourage black owners, Since the banks LTV for commercial loans is around 70% so were will many of us raise R20M.In light of this i would urge you to rethink this. As cancelling this deal will simply mean that wealth is ok in the hands of white people.In fact i suspect that the big Property companies are subsidizing this investigations since the governmnt no longer give white companies more than 2 yrs leases.So they are feeling it in turn behind the scenes they lobby to bring The likes of Roux down.Also i ask again is it then ok for a white family in bloemfontein to continue having their bldngs leased from public works whereas it is wrong for Roux to have his bldngs leased. Thuli Madonsela has never given the public the total amount spend by the dept to white owned companies,Stats please,This will shock many.Fair reporting please?Also if she decides to give stats on white companies we need to understand the procurement processes that was followed.

  • World Traveler - 2011-07-14 22:32

    Dismiss Cele! Nothing less!

      Marcell - 2011-07-15 01:18

      Sorry to say this. Only in your dreams.

      zaatheist - 2011-07-15 04:30

      He is more likely to be promoted. After all he has the same immoral qualifications as the president.

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 04:46

      @Marcel. I hope you're wrong but fear you are right.

      PB - 2011-07-15 08:07

      Mahlangu-Nkabinde is the one who had the final say in the OKing of the leases. She played right along with Cele in allowing this to happen. Her department is supposed to oversee maintenance in buildings the government is occupying - this is not happening. Civitas building had to be completely gutted and rebuilt to make it habitable after no maintenance for years. We all know about the fires in the Pretoria Courtrooms - no maintenance to the electric circuits. The Courtrooms, same as a lot of other government buildings, would have been condemed if it were not part of the Department of public works. But, hoping that Zuma will grow a spine and actually pursue the "no corruption" ideal, is a waste of time. There are too many people he is indebted to.

  • Slive - 2011-07-14 22:49

    come on cosatu, what you have to say about this?

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-07-15 09:01

      I'm also waiting for that press release... I surely hope they stand up if he doesn't do anything. Otherwise they really are just a bunch of yapping poodles with no bite

  • Mike - 2011-07-14 22:58

    Let's see if "Big Daddy" Zuma actually has more balls than this very plucky Public Protector and fires Cele and Mahlangu-Nkabinde. Anything less will be a sign of wimpering weakness.

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 04:54

      Oh Zuma's got balls alright but they are otherwise occupied!

      USSA - 2011-07-15 06:47

      The only thing that the Shower Scalp has shown us is his capability to fail and his accumulation of wives...don't hold your breath.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:45

      @grant9. LOL!!!!

      willieman - 2011-07-15 08:00

      Zuma should fire this two people and if ANC recalls him,then we will know now that ANC encourages corruption in their midst

      Creeky - 2011-07-15 08:33

      When ever anyone asks whether Zuma has the BALLS to do anything... his hands go straight into his pockets..... and they a loose fitting pockets too!!!!

      HONKY101 - 2011-07-15 12:11

      They should not only be fired, they should be charged with fraud !!!

  • David - 2011-07-14 23:01

    It won't happen because the "Chief Herdsmen" is also a crook.

      msendi - 2011-07-14 23:27

      The "Chief Herdsmen" …lol. So who are the flock?

      Liberty - 2011-07-15 01:21

      Yip they are merely following their leader. What's the bet that Cele & Gwen are going to get a slap on the wrist and then everything goes back to normal

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 04:55

      msendi. The flocking ANC

      Creeky - 2011-07-15 08:34

      ROFLMAO!!!! That was FLOCKING FUNNY!!!!

  • Zama.mncwabe - 2011-07-14 23:01

    Viva Thuli ha ha ha ha cANCer lol

      Cheryl Muir - 2011-07-16 21:37

      perhaps SHE THULI MADONSELA would be a great president. She has guts and grace, unlike Jacob the dancing machine gun clown. JZ only qualification is that he was imprisoned by Apartheid. Not sure if that qualifies u to run a country!

  • Sinudeity - 2011-07-14 23:06

    LOL, the ANC-PF supporters are out in full swing today. The lithuli house thugs are out to defend their corrupt comrade.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:46

      Did you mean Luthuli?

      Creeky - 2011-07-15 08:35

      Surely you mean LOOTFREELY HOUSE?

  • ProudlyKgomo - 2011-07-14 23:28

    We are proud of you Public Protector!

      Cheryl Muir - 2011-07-16 21:36

      perhaps SHE THULI MADONSELA would be a great president. She has guts and grace, unlike Jacob the dancing machine gun clown. JZ only qualification is that he was imprisoned by Apartheid. Not sure if that qualifies u to run a country!

  • nic - 2011-07-14 23:58

    Fire Cele. There is no other option. You cannot have corrupt scum running your police force.

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 05:07

      The trouble is, the next commisioner that the ANC deploy will be just as corrupt. He/she will say, "What's the worst that can happen to me if I get caught? Celle has done alright for himself, lovely mansion, huge pension. Who knows, I may even become president one day..."

      Mike - 2011-07-15 12:22

      Stomach in - chest out!

  • nic - 2011-07-15 00:06

    Wow, we really need more people like her in power positions. I really hope that Zuma finally show some character and support her. We cannot have a corrupt police commissioner. Has anyone ever actually listened to one of his speeches? There is not much happening between those ears anyhow...

      daaivark - 2011-07-15 07:07

      As you said USSA.

  • bafana malaza - 2011-07-15 00:16

    well done to the ANC for having the guts to appoint this champion as our public protector. This is a sure sign that there are cadres of exceptional qualities within the movement who carry out their duties without fear or favor.

      Warslat - 2011-07-15 00:40

      What use are guts when you have no teeth?

      Left Screwed - 2011-07-15 00:50

      Bet ANC regrets the appointment of the Public Protector. A puppet that won't dance to the pulling of the strings.

      Liberty - 2011-07-15 01:29

      I think some of the ANC powers-that-be regret having appointed her to the position

      tkotze - 2011-07-15 07:29

      I can't believe that within the ANC, due to its size, that there aren't any capable people serving them. As the saying goes "The nice guy always comes last", and the same concept is felt in the ANC. The corrupt prevent the good guys from doing their jobs. But this gives hope, and I have no doubt that it can be a snowball effects, starting small, holding people accountable and as more and more get confidence in not backing off due to pressure, and the more officials see that corruption cannot be kept silent the more the ANC can become what its forefathers set out to be

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:50

      Very good point, bafana. The assumption created is that being a member of the ANC removes any abilities you have to carry out a task you are appointed for. Too many worry about being rehired, and so end up dumbing down to the level of the president. There are many examples of ANC members who have excelled and have turned this country around from one that was on the brink of bankruptcy in 1994 (If you need a picture, see what is happening with Greece)

      Glen - 2011-07-15 08:37

      Remember that that they also 'appointed' the Scorpions

      economyfree - 2011-07-15 11:54

      I share the same sentiments Bafana Malaza, It's high time that those who joined the ANC to enrich themlseves start preparing to feel the full extent of the law, should they still continue with their thieving tendencies. I think this should serve as a good example particularly to those who occupy senior positions within Government, This should be the trend going forward, I hope the Government will adopt and continue this kind of investigations to ensure that everyone intrusted to handle Public funds must know the responsibility and expectations attached to being a public servant and the repercussions thereof failing to oblige. Well-done Ms. Thuli Madonsela.

  • afrdick - 2011-07-15 01:34

    Thuli Madonsela for President, donsa Madonsela! donsa!Viva!

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:52

      If Zuma and Bush are examples of what President should be like, then I hope Thuli never becomes president, as that would be ditching a Ferrari for a BMW 3 series

  • tokoloshe - 2011-07-15 02:59

    Just another normal corrupt day in Africa! Deal with it people because this is how the ANC and our president roles and this is exactly what the dumb masses that vote for the ANC want because it allows them to rape, murder, steal and get away with it so why on earth would they want to vote for anyone else??????????

      grant9 - 2011-07-15 05:16

      Too true. I'm on the verge of giving up hope. I believe the dumb masses are being made dumb and poor by the ANC on purpose. Nobody else would vote for the ANC.

      Kenno - 2011-07-15 09:25

      Sadly, you are 100% correct! There are so many cases outstanding..Selebi,McBride, Sicela, Cheryl Cwele, that you never hear the end result, and the ANC are working on the theory that the public (Who pay their ill gottem salaries) will lose track and forget!

  • Henni Apple - 2011-07-15 05:06

    nothing will happen because zuma have a cut in the pie, that is how the mafia system works, as long as the boss get a percentage.

      Henni Apple - 2011-07-15 05:08

      same as winnie and the saambou bank deal, the other guilty parties are in jail and she is running around with a lotto check book entertaining the rest of the party

  • Mothusi - 2011-07-15 05:24

    Honestly if this is true,Mr Bheki Cele must just resign.Two serious allegations in a short period of time.This is too muchtime.This is too much

      USSA - 2011-07-15 06:52

      No!! he must be stripped of everything and prosecuted like I would have been if this was a private company or bank! There is no grey area in the procedure that needs to be followed by the law!

  • Roy - 2011-07-15 06:15

    Let's hope that after the President has "studied" the document the people concerned will be fired and not moved to another department to carry on with their dishonesty and deceit.The country is so corrupt from the very top down that it has become the norm to steal,enrich oneself and get away with it because of their "rights".

      Mike - 2011-07-15 12:19

      He can't fire them - he has over 780 graft cases against him which he has conviniently avoided!

  • Hein - 2011-07-15 06:15

    Any side bets that this will be swept under the carpet AGAIN!!!! If, note if action is taken it will be to re-ploy these people to another department with an INCREASE in salary.

      USSA - 2011-07-15 06:54

      I agree 100%. Golden handshake and a transfer to another ANCircus division or department.

  • Carl - 2011-07-15 06:38

    The only honourable thing to do for the two is to resign. But being fired comes with a golden handshake. Sigh. Now what about Sicelo Shiceka

      Kevin - 2011-07-15 08:25

      @Carl - since when does ANY company pay a golden handshake to an employee who resigns? Tell me, and I will ask them for a job!!

  • Harry1 - 2011-07-15 06:44

    Ms Madonsela is a bright star in the fight against corruption. A lonely star...?

      mzanzirules - 2011-07-15 07:50

      not really.... she's got plenty dirt too....

  • jakes - 2011-07-15 06:52

    This zuma chap is the biggest criminal of all!!!! This CancER is really "running" this country into the ground!!! Bunch of idiots!!!!

  • braamc - 2011-07-15 07:02

    They rotten from top to bottom! Our tax money paying for these fat thieving politicians. The people must burn this country till they listen!!!!!

  • wv - 2011-07-15 07:04

    I suppose the general will now become a minister.

  • Save SA - 2011-07-15 07:11

    I don't expect Zuma to do anything drastic about these two people. A puppet who dances to different tunes is not a true or real leader. He dances to many different tunes to keep many different people happy. These corrupt people are from his flock, they have taught one another how to be corrupt. They are after all brothers and sisters from other mothers !

  • dalala.namusi - 2011-07-15 07:15

    I bet the anc regrets not deploying a cadre for the post.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 08:05

      Except, she is, as was Manuel and many others who did well for the country

  • dotty_01 - 2011-07-15 07:16

    this country is so backward. in england, a company that has been around for 130 years closes over a much less catastrophic issue. PLEASE - I need proof that you can be previously disadvantaged and HONEST at the same time. If there is any of you out there, please step forward.

      Kunta-Kinte - 2011-07-15 07:51

      It is your thinking that is backward. How less catastrophic is the spying by NOW on british citizens and their politicians.

  • dsdjs - 2011-07-15 07:21


  • York Hunt - 2011-07-15 07:29

    The Ancient Greeks said (correctly), "Without Law, There can be no Freedom"

  • Kunta-Kinte - 2011-07-15 07:32

    The question is has the anc got enough men and women of calibre to find a new one better suited to the job, for as the police chief is drawn from the ranks of party apparatchiks, of which their quality has plummeted.

  • biskit - 2011-07-15 07:35

    Mr Cele - You are the weakest link - Good Bye!

  • Ho - 2011-07-15 07:35

    Ummm....I thought that in order to qualify as a Meenesta, you had to be a corrupt ANC member..?

  • lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:41

    Cele is the Julius Malema of the ANC. The guy never knows when to shut up, and his utterings have indeed made the police targets of gangsters. The inability of the police to effectively deal with strikers is one specific area where Cele has failed, but the rushed and forced rental deals give one an idea that he owns Zuma. So, watch for this space, the man will instead be promoted, and expect Zuma to expand his bloated government

  • York Hunt - 2011-07-15 07:41

    Is anyone here (not including ANC trolls of course) in anyway NOT SURE that Bheki Cele is corrupt? His dealings with Roux Shanabangu is such blatant fraud! Obviously this must be very inconvenient for Zoomer. LOL

  • Dan - 2011-07-15 07:44

    That's cleaver. Hand the responsibility to deal with corruption to another corrupt one. Nice going!

  • masenya30 - 2011-07-15 07:44

    well done i hope u are on a right track now people need to understand u only do your job correctly not exposing a party this trasperancy never happen before now it happen people inter fears as they were right before cele will pass this allegations

  • Prof D - 2011-07-15 07:46

    just wait until Cele start to talk and sing about the rest of the ANC including Zuma if he is fired!

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 07:59

      He will not be fired. He will be deployed as a Deputy Minister of Corruption

  • mzanzirules - 2011-07-15 07:50

    It's just a pity that she herself abuses her power to try and influence cases where her direct family members aew involved in corruption. Don't believe everything you read people... there is more to this than meets the eye.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 08:08

      Examples? Proof? Evidence?

      mzanzirules - 2011-07-15 08:13

      lenand40 - lets just say there is currently a few cases already asnd a few already lost by Ms Madonsela's family members more than that I'm currently not at liberty to say. Hard as it might be just know she's not really clean....

      Totman - 2011-07-15 08:38

      Well, if she is at fault somewhere this can only be a win, win situation. She exposed some and afterwards some-one exposed her.[If there is any truth in it] You know the story of killing a few flies with one....?

  • AllSeeingEye - 2011-07-15 07:54

    I failing to understand where are this old men and women taking all this money!!!i mean they have Millions already and their time is almost up!We as the young Generations are to be blamed for this mess,we have to take charge,what's the use of commenting here day in and day out but we don't act!The future is ours and their time is up,small minds discuss people and great minds discuss ideas.

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 08:07

      Yes, Make Julius President and we will suddenly think Zuma was a great president

  • sainsaudi - 2011-07-15 07:55

    Isn't he the same guy on whom the Police spent millions renovating a house, built a gym on to it and had the Dept of Public Works buy furniture for hundreds of thousands of Rands?And this all was because he didn't like the house that was provided for him by the police department? It is just amazing how the ANC seems to appoint people into positions of trust and accountability for the security of the citizens who have agendas other that doing their jobs in an honest and transparent manner. ( see also Selebi). Thuli Madonsela is a diamond, a rare find in a morass of greed, self-enrichment, theft, graft, dishonesty, indiscipline and power-hunger.. A true champion of Mandelaism. She has behaved like a human being in the face of people behaving like animals. What a brave woman.

  • Jubes - 2011-07-15 08:02

    She's doing a brilliant job... So I give her 6 months before she gets the boot... TIA

      lenand40 - 2011-07-15 08:06

      Constitutionally, she cannot get the boot unless she is found guilty of a serious offence.

  • Deeteem - 2011-07-15 08:03

    And we all know what the outome is going to be ne' !!!

  • Mziros - 2011-07-15 08:07

    With the ANC National Congress around the corner, I don't see Zuma dismissing Cele, he's going to do evrything in his power to make sure he doesn't loose a single ANc members vote for his re election next year.

  • vandermerwe.martin - 2011-07-15 08:13

    The thug is now finally in a corner, lets see what type of president Zuma actually is?

  • Clive - 2011-07-15 08:42

    Zuma has neither the guts, the balls nor the backbone to do what needs to be done.

  • JMan - 2011-07-15 08:54

    Ball in Zuma's court? So nothing will come of this...again. Cele will most probably get a promotion...if not 'worse'.

  • Iran999 - 2011-07-15 08:56

    Is our government suffering from Ostrich Syndrome ? It appears internal government leadership problems have taken priority over the ‘State of the Nation’. How is it that a government can allow its economy to nose dive in the manner it has and is still doing. It appears our country is reaching a state of being ‘un governable’ and is choosing or has chosen to ignore its leadership. The people, it appears, have chosen to ignore the leadership due to inability to lead. While ‘Big Business’ continues on a path of growth - it has done so at the peril of small business. We are no longer a competitive emerging economy with a stable manufacturing industry. We have become reliant on imports, our farms are producing levels less than Ethiopia and our commerce is starting to hemorrhage. While our government is off to Libya, defending Leases, shopping in Italy, killing each other in Natal and changing city and street names, the rest of us are trying to make this country the force it can and should be. So – Dear Government – You are all fired and should hang your heads in utter shame and disgust for the mess you have made.

  • 2c - 2011-07-15 09:09

    Ball in Zuma's court? Let's see who he is going to kick it to. And let the soccer game begin!

  • Sir Eidolon - 2011-07-15 09:12

    When the presidency is 'studying' a report, it means they are thinking of measures to sweep it under the carpet. JZ must be busy applying his mind to a dozen or so reports at the moment. Poor man.

  • The Flying Circus - 2011-07-15 09:21

    I wonder how long Adv Madonsela is going to remain in her position? The African National Corruption will not like the fact that she is rooting out the bad apples !!

  • strawberry - 2011-07-15 09:26

    Then e-news reports this morning: "Public Protector suggests that the Minister of Public Works should be fired." She did not say that. The women is fearing for her life. She never said anyone should be fired. She said she had recommended remedial action to be taken, but have left it for the President to decide. This action could range from reprimanding the minister to a dismissal, but she never suggested anyone should be fired. E-news you have the tapes of the interview, go watch it again before you put this women into deeper trouble, man! No wonder the ANC wants to gag the media. Poor Thuli, if you get fired, pushed out, raided, gagged, hurt, it will be e-news' fault.

  • 50something - 2011-07-15 09:27

    "Accepting responsibility" is not in the ANC's vocabulary, as Cele stated. If anything, Madonsela will loose her job (sounds familiar?) Zuma is too spineless to do anyhting, he only knows how to make empty promises, but when it comes to delivering - he is useless. Come on mr President, show us how serious you are about corruption...