Ban drunk drivers - IFP

2013-01-04 07:17

Johannesburg - The IFP called on Thursday for a lifetime ban of drunk drivers on South Africa's roads.

"It is shocking to note that the festive season is not even officially over and already 1 279 people have been killed on South Africa's roads," Inkatha Freedom Party's spokesperson Velaphi Ndlovu said in a statement.

The death toll statistics were released by the Road Traffic Management Corporation on Thursday.

Ndlovu said if people were found driving under the influence of alcohol their licences should be immediately revoked without being renewed or they should not be allowed to apply for new permits to drive on the roads.

On Wednesday, the department of transport said more than 2 100 motorists had been arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol since December 1.

The IFP welcomed the arrests, but called on traffic officers to stop hiding themselves when monitoring the roads.

"The IFP also calls for an end to traffic officers hiding behind bushes in order to trap speeding motorists...We believe that the public can be better served by traffic officers who are more visible and therefore prevent accidents..." said Ndlovu.

  • greig.saunders - 2013-01-04 07:21

    The same tune many others have been singing for a loooooong time...

      christo.stone - 2013-01-04 07:44

      It needs to happen though. If people think they can toil with other people's lives, then they should be banned from driving ever again.

      marius.koen2 - 2013-01-04 08:23

      No, the demerit system for me seems to be the only logical and feasible solution. When will it be rolled out?

      ariado.myfather - 2013-01-04 09:34

      So, "Drink" and Drive is OK? You need to get "Drunk" before get yourself arrested.

      debduplessis - 2013-01-04 13:00

      Ban anyone including Taxis who cause unnecessary, unprompted & certainly avoidable deaths due to driver skill, non road worthy vehicles & offical licencing negligence!

  • david.banner.104418 - 2013-01-04 07:25

    Lifetime ban, ha ha, nice idea but a joke of note. How do you propose you police that, the cANCer can't even get the taxi's to obey the law. The Blue light brigades can't even obey the law, Fkk the minister even lied on national TV about helping that kid that got hit. Yeah, it's a joke under this current cANCer.

  • Sibulele Stemele - 2013-01-04 07:26

    dnt b stupid. rather say the point system must start. dnt say the licence must be taken away 1st time and non renewable. thats y the IFP is just a party that will never rule, coz they just speak noise. licence must be terminated and non renewable. what rubbish.

      hayley.kruger.92 - 2013-01-04 07:52

      No, it's not rubbish! If you decide to drink & drive you are a potential murder weapon and have to face the music. I agree 100% - revoke their licences. The choice is yours, not so?

  • Erna - 2013-01-04 07:30

    People keep on talking about 'revoking licences'; the 'point system'; etc. These things are no use if there is no policing of illegal drivers.

      mygot.gert - 2013-01-04 07:40

      The problem is that the legal drivers is where the money is for bribes, fines, etc..

  • ulandi.potgieter - 2013-01-04 07:33

    you want a lifetime ban for a drunken driver that's not fair what about the other people who murder - rape - steal and etc what goes for one goes for all just think about it.

  • dylan1972 - 2013-01-04 07:39

    Bring the points demerit system into play ASAP!! Speedsters, drunk drivers, reckless drivers... Double the road traffic police presence ASAP... Send out a visible and immediate warning to traffic offenders!!

  • warren.carne.9 - 2013-01-04 07:40

    Excellent idea,also death penalty for rapists and murderers,it won't violate peoples rights if they act responsibly and respect others rights to life and dignity.

  • Mphafudi Maruma - 2013-01-04 07:41

    abt traffic officers i thnk it myt help if dey stop hiding. because motorists speeds up when dey dn't c dem, but whn dey do dey slow down. so if motorists sees de traffic cops all de tym, dey 'll obey de rules 'n dat 'll save life.

      Zohan.Steppingstone - 2013-01-04 09:00

      Dude, what the hell is that language?

  • bob.small.7547 - 2013-01-04 07:43

    Yes, of course drunken driving is a scourge on our roads....But there are plenty other reasons for our high accident rate that don’t involve alcohol...! But nice if Velaphi Ndlovu was more varied in his response at tackling the problem, perhaps sighting a couple of other accident causing demons, You know, like, bad roads, potholes, faded road marking paint, illegally licensed drivers, overloaded vehicles, oh and of course speeding……the list is endless.! But no, in all his wisdom Velaphi Ndlovu from the IFP has the golden solution in a unilateral plan of action and asking for the full beef of action on it!

  • sean.coomer2 - 2013-01-04 07:53

    2100 arrests and 10000 bribes.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2013-01-04 07:57

    And cannabis needs to be decriminalized!

  • Leon Marais - 2013-01-04 07:59

    6 months in jail for being caught driving drunk, and the same for exesive speeding. no one wants to go and sit in this country jails. there are to many people in this country that just don't give a damn about other people's lives. if i go on holiday with my family, i would like to return home save.

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2013-01-04 07:59

    Of the 1300 road accidents how many were alcohol related?

  • collen.seoka - 2013-01-04 08:01

    Facts from opposition are often ignored. Will this one get the same treatment? IFP has a point, no one will drink and drive, knowing that they risk loosing their licenses.

      lionel.defrontignac - 2013-01-04 08:36

      Nonsense; as it stands, the law states that your licence is automatically suspended for 6 months, if convicted of such an offence. I don't see that operating as a deterrent - the metro cops need to get off their fat asses, and stop hiding behind bushes and enforce the law. People in this country have a legacy of not fearing the law - it's the wild west, where honest taxpaying citizens are the victims and criminal get away with murder, due to police ineptitude. It doesn't help that our president and his buddies propagate an image of corruption and cronyism. Once again the decision to keep him at Mangaung reflects how myopic the ANC is.

  • VWhitepaw - 2013-01-04 08:04

    Um... Is the IFP saying that 2100 people was drunk and there was 1279 deaths, thus the people was drunk that died? That is just stupid. I'd believe most of the 1279 deaths was caused by tired drivers or reckless driving. I think the focus is more often put on the wrong place. Speeding does not kill, it however is a pretend to dangerous condition. For example. You could not stop in a short distance when someone runs over the high way. You could roll and crash if your tire burst.

      bless.boswell - 2013-01-04 09:56

      Not all the 2100 arrested drunks had been in accidents ...

      VWhitepaw - 2013-01-04 10:31

      And that is my point. Not all accidents are made by drunks. Actually, I think if we can get a breakdown of the 1279 deaths and what caused it, dunk driving would be in the minority. Yet the impression I get from this article is that drunk driving is the major reason.

      VWhitepaw - 2013-01-04 10:38

      ps... Do not misunderstand me. I'm all for harsh sentences on drunk driving as it makes for unsafe road conditions. However, remember that in places cars are the primary mode of transport with no public transport fallback available. And there was talks of lowering the alcohol limit to a level that a single beer would put you over the limit. Not that actually drink. Current law does allow for driver licence suspension of repeat offenders. But that can only be done via court.

  • thabo.cassius.5 - 2013-01-04 08:07

    I agree with IFP when coming to visibility but the traffic officer they themselve don't follow the rules.Are they above the law,who is monitoring them to make sure that they follow the rule?They don't use safety belt and they talk with their cellphone while driving and no one is giving them fine.Military have their police who make sure that soldiers follows road rules and traffic officers no one is look after them.The who thing of metro cops must be reviewed and let government make sure that the public know about their Job discription

  • gary.desousa.5 - 2013-01-04 08:11

    Good call but!!!!! Ban drunk drivers Remove every unroadworthy car/bus/taxi Jail repeat offenders

  • philip.buys.1 - 2013-01-04 08:14

    Do something about the taxi drivers. Increase their penalties.

  • idris.nomani - 2013-01-04 08:16

    You can ban the entire damn long as taxis do what they want and totally disregard the value of human life, there will be carnage on our roads. Taxis are killing our people and the government is doing nothing about it!!

      jj.jeno.1 - 2013-01-04 09:07

      Which roads do you drive on? It's not only the taxis, it's all our overly aggressive drivers. Just the other day a BMW decided he was gonna race me on my motorcycle. While I was trying yo obey the speed limit, he kept his car on my rear tire which forced me to speed and get away. Driver's as a whole have a responsibility to be considerate and drive safely, our roads are becoming killing grounds (not forgetting the other atrocious crimes being committed).

  • barbara.foster.50702769 - 2013-01-04 08:16

    At last someone is making sense. I absolutely agree. In the town where I live someone was drunk and crashed into another car killing 2. Nothing happened and he is still driving around... If you drive drunk and someone dies you MUST lose your licence. Its as simple as that...

      rohann.geldenhuys - 2013-01-04 11:17

      No babra, if you drive drunk and someone dies, you must go to jail. Not have your license suspended...

  • henk.venter.754 - 2013-01-04 08:16

    NO! Ban politicians and the bastards that drive their vehicles!!!!

  • eugene.muller.7 - 2013-01-04 08:16

    so people only behave when they see cops? part of the problem, self discipline. like a bunch of kids smoking around a corner. i agree, take their licenses away...forever. is that not what drunk drivers do with lifes?

  • dylan.mugabe - 2013-01-04 08:17

    IFP officials are bigger drunkards than the ANC.

  • brandphuthu - 2013-01-04 08:20

    4 1nce the IFP has actually said sumthing that is relevant with regards 2 the issue od drinking nd driving nd banning those who do it I fully agree bt it must'nt jst b the little guy on the street bt also those who are in power. I also feel that as South Africa we all need a wake up call 2 deal with all this carnage on our roads

  • gus.fourie - 2013-01-04 08:23

    The traffic departments across the country are now money making businesses. They are not there to solve the traffic problems.

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2013-01-04 08:29

    This guy must be joking! What about the loads of unlicenced drivers on our roads? They cannot even police that. The only thing the Govt is good at is squeezing toll money and fines out of the honest motorist

  • wessel.jordaan.3 - 2013-01-04 08:30

    Every vehicle driver is a potential 'murderer'either by getting behind the wheel with alcohol...irrespective of quantity absorbed,lack of experience, distracted, negligence, poor reaction time etc etc. A vehicle is as dangerous if not more than a firearm. 1.3 million people die person intoxicated can kill 4/5 people in a single vehicle , assuming he did not colide with another vehicle. Why is there not a full scale "WAR" on the use of vehicles/drivers?! Because they generate tax income for the states and the same apply to alcohol. its not difficult to understand or work out people. Oh yes...and of course insurance companies also make loads. F...k this is frustrating even writing about it....................

  • Modikoe.Elias.Ramongana - 2013-01-04 08:31

    Visible policing,that's what IFP is asking.Let them stop concentating only on taxis,bout on every car that is on the road.

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2013-01-04 08:34

    I would rather suggest suspension for 1 year. If caught driving during that period, impose a permanent ban. Also all people caught driving without a valid driver's license should be sent to jail for 6 months.

  • Daniel Mah - 2013-01-04 08:36

    I'll go for a lifetime ban - maybe that will reduce the carnage on our roads

  • leon.lipschitz - 2013-01-04 08:39

    I'm in full agreement with what has been said relating to drinking and driving They should be banned or at the very least have their cars taken, sold and that money be used towards the rehabilitation of the victims injured by these inconsiderate drunkards They should also be jailed for six months without the option of a fine Sitting in one of our jails should deter them from doing it again NO EXCUSES for the penalty been waived The person that that the drunkard kills or maims could be YOUR WIFE YOUR CHILD YOUR PARENTS SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU NO MERCY FOR DRINKING AND DRIVING Regarding the other comments about the taxis, visible traffic policing and other I agree with the comments made Taxis are a menace Traffic cops should do visible policing The toll gantries should be used to monitor speeding, reckless drivers, and cars without number plates or false ones

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-01-04 08:44

    When are the authorities going to realise that stupid cops hiding behind bushes with a speed camera are NOT contributing to road safety. The results are evident. Stupid stupid cops.

  • janti.cloete - 2013-01-04 08:48

    I also believe lock em up... BUT don't judge before you have put in place a DECENT public transport system....

  • israel.maseko.5 - 2013-01-04 08:48

    IFP is really bored. How can that be possible???? They should then ban alcohol in totality.

  • verna.lamprecht - 2013-01-04 08:52

    we need better public transport, so that we don't have to get into our cars when we have been drinking.

      phae.rayden - 2013-01-04 09:24

      Oh pleaese grow up, make other plans, or drink at home if you have to.

  • mark.gamtoos - 2013-01-04 08:53

    Same oh Same oh ....yawn...

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2013-01-04 08:57

    Yes traffic officers hiding themselves in order to trap speedind cars not to prevent accidents. It's same like police who awaking truck drivers who sleeping on the side of road when feeling tired. Those drivers making accidens because of being woken up while they were still tired.those are also causes of accidens.

  • hans.moerdyk - 2013-01-04 09:09

    Its like kill the dead horse dead? - doesnt make sense - You already banned from driving without a valid diving lisence and/or under the influence. Law must f#!%&!P these okes if they being caught.

  • ian.robertreid - 2013-01-04 09:13

    A drunk driver must b jailed for 3 months and licence removed 4 life! IRR

  • phae.rayden - 2013-01-04 09:37

    To all you idiots justifying drunk driving because of bad public transport, do us all a favour and go juggle chainsaws before you get in your car. Zero tolerance for you psycho's, you should never be allowed to drive again. Its a very simple concept; you drink, you don't drive, no excuses, no extenuating circumstances.

      peasant.mcpoor - 2013-01-04 10:35

      Yeah because drinking at home by yourself is sooooo fun.There are some of us who actually like to have a good time when going out.I agree,lack of public transport is no excuse,but on the other hand, its so unfair that we can't go out and party due to this.

      phae.rayden - 2013-01-04 11:41

      Ag shame, sorry to hear you can only have fun when blotto. This is exactly the kind of childish stupidity that prevails around so many South Africans and their idea of fun.

  • Jacques Downing - 2013-01-04 09:45

    Is the 1279 death toll directly related to drunk drivers or just a matter of drivers not adhering to the rules and principles of driving. I mean a head on collision between to taxi's can instantly kill up to 40 people and more, traffic offenders in general should be sent to a rehabilitate centre to learn the road signs, rules and law.

  • BobM6389 - 2013-01-04 09:46

    This proposal and any other half baked idea will not work in SA. Having a culture of not adhearing to the rules of the road and a totaly ineffective law enforcement with officials open to taking bribes we have no chance. Yes alchol does play a roll but so does unroadworthy vehicles, speeding etc. What is needed is an honest and efficent traffic police with a zero tolerance enforcement policy and more jaws that are not enforced.

      BobM6389 - 2013-01-04 09:52

      that should read .... and not more laws that are not enforced.

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2013-01-04 09:56

    I agree with IFP . Each time I get on the road it doesn't take long before some moron who cannot even drive straight , comes from behind and tries to overtake on a blind spot or approaching a curve . I drive at a safe permissible speed and they clearly go at over 120kmph on a 80kmph zone .

  • adrian.wells.969 - 2013-01-04 09:57

    and the same should go for taxi drivers...

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-01-04 09:59

    How would you implement such a ban and how many drive around without licences already?.

  • madoda.s.mnisi - 2013-01-04 10:22

    We can't agree more that we as people should try and do better and right

  • waynehse - 2013-01-04 10:26

    Firstly, bring back the death penalty. This is a christian-based country (not the Cape of Good Hope of course) so its an "eye for an eye". You kill - you need to be sent to death row. Even if under the auspices of Mens Rea! Secondly, what is the difference between beating your partner and driving under the influence. There is none - because in both situations you were fully aware of your surrounding and conscious although 'out of your mind'. Mens Rea! Thirdly, anything illegal which has the potential of harming another person should be punishable by a HEFTY monitary fine. Mens Rea! Most of us can afford to pay R500 fines. If the fine for drinking and driving was R10000 and your license was cut in half ON THE SPOT, it would change things considerably! You are jailed until you can pay the R10000. Simple. e.g. Speaking on a cellphone while driving... R200!!? Guaranteed you have violated this law daily! Don't know about you but I can easily afford this fine. Its only 4 pizzas! When you text on a cellphone while driving, you actually look down for 20 seconds. Holy cow! Who can see when you text on a cellphone? Fine = R0.00 Thats clearly a case of Mens Rea! South Africa has become a 'free for all'. Bottom line - Noone really gives a continental sh*t.

  • george.m.mazibuko.5 - 2013-01-04 10:35

    Stp advertising liquor on media nd suspend licence

  • Sherman Amos - 2013-01-04 11:05

    Why does the IFP not raise this in parliament, why is there also not a commission established to determine the cause of 1279 road deaths over Christmas and 15 000 through the year after all a commission was established for 34 tragic marikane deaths, why is there not the same emphasis on road safety awareness throughout the years as there is with rhino poaching or are rhinos more important than human lives? or simply stop worrying as all this concern will be over after the Christmas holidays as it is normally the case until the rhetoric is resumed Easter .

  • joe.soapie.73 - 2013-01-04 11:13

    In a country where thousands of licenses are fake how will this help? While I like the idea, I can't see how it will achieve anything.