Bishop kills girl to increase church flock

2011-06-13 22:46

Johannesburg - The trial of a church bishop, his wife and two others accused of mutilating a 9-year-old girl for muti was postponed by the Alberton Magistrate's Court on Monday.

"The case was postponed to August 26 to await DNA results. They all remain in custody," Captain Katlego Mogale said.

Bishop Monde Tokwe, his wife Nolofefe Magasane, Fundisile Sidumo and Vusi Mofokeng are accused of murdering Yonela Skweyiya in May last year.

Tokwe and Magasane allegedly approached Mofokeng, a herbalist, when the membership of their church started declining.

Mofokeng allegedly told them to get human body parts that he would mix with muti to help bring people back to the church.

Skweyiya was kidnapped in Katlehong while walking to the shops to meet her mother.

Her body was found in an open veld nearby.

  • croix - 2011-06-13 23:45

    Has this EVER happened elsewhere in the world - A bishop complicit in killing an innocent young girl to increase numbers in his church ???? Furthermore, he consulted a 'muti quack' - Wow!! This HAS to be a religious first? What type of church is this.........

      Larro - 2011-06-14 05:31

      @Croix: I've sent a couple of such links (like the invisible magic penis one a week or two ago, and the Zuma/Ancestor vengeance article) to colleagues here in Aus, and to a person they accused me of pulling their legs. I'd send this one, but it's embarrasing and so sad - poor young girl.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 08:52

      @ croix - definitely not a Christian one. This guy has some crazy tribal beliefs and sadly has resulted in the death of an innocent girl. Hopefully the judge throws the book at him.

      Worldwise - 2011-06-14 11:20

      Sorry Matt. Bishops only occur in the Christian Faith. There are definitely no tribal bishops. But, Wow, what a confused mixing of superstitions. First the superstition that states everyone is to be loved and killing is illegal can't attract followers. So they use the other superstition that tells you if you kill someone and use their body parts for muti you can attract followers to the other superstition. What a mess. All religions are based on ancient superstitions so don't see your christian superstition as superior to the tribal or any other superstition.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 13:13

      @ Worldwise - so because he called himself a bishop, he's Christian? In SA it often happens that people go from traditional beliefs to Christianity, then practise both - yet both are wholly incompatible.

      oxygen - 2011-06-14 13:16

      And look how many say 'may god forgive them'.

      Richie - 2011-06-14 14:02

      Jisus, thats typical. How long has the church and religion been used as a cover for murder, abuse and control... the crusades, the Spanish inquisition, Witch hunts, child abuse, jihad , etc. When will everybody wake up and realize how ridiculous religion really is. Stories made up in our very recent history to appease and control the masses ... NOTHING MORE! Just consider how ridiculous the notion of a creator is, that concerns himself with day to day happenings of humans i.e. whether the Bulls win their next rugby game. LOL. Consider how many medical miracles there are, but somehow an amputees leg never grows back (easy to proclaim miracles, hey). For example; Consider that, if you lived in Africa / India / Asia and were not converted to christendom or Islam ... no matter how good a person you were, your “soul” would be lost, consider how ridiculous the notion of us being created 6000 years ago is knowing what we know today and have irrefutable facts for. I dare you go read, think about it with an open mind and you must see that religion is a sham and fulfills only man’s desire to “belong”, rather fill this gap with knowledge and reason?

      Matt - 2011-06-14 14:30

      Richie - "think about it with an open mind and you must see that religion is a sham" Can somebody else please point the oxymoron out in this sentence... it begs belief

      Richie - 2011-06-14 15:36

      “think about it with an open mind and you must see that religion is a sham” – I am referring to the narrow minded view that religious folk have i.e. believing what they believe without any consideration of proven (and I mean proven facts). They believe (for Christians’) that God made the earth 6000 years ago, and some carpenter from Israel saved them from their mortal sins by dying and getting up again. Some “modern Christians” try and work in evolution and even dinosaurs .... BUT, they all pretty much have “closed their minds” on any debate to the contrary. Hence my call for them to be “open-minded” beyond such ridiculous made-up facts. To ask an Atheist to be open minded about creation would be the equivalent of asking a astronaut to believe that the earth is flat. – I get your point, but your saying; how can I ask you to be open minded, when I am not. It’s because my logic is not based on mythical fantasy. For me it would be like debating a “person that believes” the earth is centre of the universe, because HE SAID so? Hence, me asking you to be open minded as you (religious folks) seem t have a answer and a solution.... and we are still searching, therefore by us asking you to be open minded we are asking you to consider evidence and you are asking us to accept your “truth” or fact i.e. God did it all finish and klaar!

      Matt - 2011-06-14 15:37

      OK, obviously you can't... so he tells us to have an open mind, and then says religion is a sham which is a very closed-minded statement... but that is the fallacy of being open-minded. "I'm a Muslim" "religion is wrong, have an open mind!" "I'm a Hindu" "religion is wrong, have an open mind!" I'm a Christian "religion is wrong, have an open mind!" See what I mean...

      Richie - 2011-06-14 18:58

      “Sham” being, something that is presented as genuine but that is not... hence “a sham”. Facts proven to be false ... sold as the truth. I don’t not use the word “wrong” as that would mean that I hold the “ultimate” truth, something that does not exist. I am simply pointing out that facts “sold” to religious folk as the “ultimate truth” / or “proven fact” has been irrefutable disproven.

      ryan.holland.395454 - 2012-11-14 17:00

      @croix, I don't agree. There is a firm precedent for this sort of thing in the Christian faith. Didn't God have his son crucified on the cross in order to reduce some of the red tape of getting into heaven? ie Human sacrifice = More people in heaven. You really would have to argue that God's greatest gift was an irrelevants to dispute that premise. I know, sick isn't it.

  • zaatheist - 2011-06-14 04:38

    Proof that all religion achieves is to add to the world’s considerable stockpile of stupid. Religious belief is the most pernicious form of self-deluding mental illness to inflict the human race. Religions are used to legitimise awful deeds, now, this very second people are raped, tortured, oppressed and murdered in the name of some or other nonsensical god and religious drivel.

      Larro - 2011-06-14 05:33

      Have to agree - one of the biggest 'awful deeds' in the name of religion was 9/11...

      Ralph Long - 2011-06-14 05:49

      I think it is important to distinguish between religion and a personal relationship with God. Jesus, himself, hated religious people and was the harshest in his condemnation of them.

      Whuyu - 2011-06-14 07:37

      Religion = Money. And...other than than their faith and belief structure, the Jesus freaks HAVE NO PROOF OF A GOD/JESUS!! It is stories told through the ages, but no actuial proof or solid evidence to prove stories in "the bible".

      Old Man - 2011-06-14 08:01

      @Ralph - agree 100% @zaatheist - agree to a point. Religion is man-made, not God-made. As Ralph pointed out, it's the relationship with God that counts, not the dogma of religion. @Whuyu: Read a book called The Lost Testament. It's an areligious book that investigates the stories of the old testament. That should show you otherwise. And speaking of proof of God's existence: there is more proof, however circumstantial, that God exists than proof that He doesn't.

      Michelle - 2011-06-14 08:13

      Organised Religion = Organised Crime

      Whuyu - 2011-06-14 08:26

      @ Old Man.............provid the proof!!....what is the proof??...where is the proof?? All them Jesus freaks say there is proof, but cannot provide the proof! Bottom line is Religion = money and control over the gullible

      betha - 2011-06-14 08:38

      @ old man:occam razor, google it. the proofs that god does is exist is convoluted and full philosophical manipulation. there is no empirical proof that god exist. if you base your beliefs on circumstantial evidence your fool.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 09:00

      If there is no God, then WE must be God. Then what's stopping you from saying that killing an enemy is good, because in your eyes it was right? It is the LACK of belief in God that has caused more death in this world than all religions, all religious-based wars, combined. But atheists don't want you to know that, because their argument looks stupid in comparison. Look at the atheist state of USSR - Stalin killed 40-60 million people, and USSR had to modify the core values of communism (which are directly anti-Christian) to get people to actually work and survive. Mao Tse Tung killed some 70 million people during the "cultural" revolution, to create an atheist, communist state. WW2 killed up to 100 million people because some crazy guy believed that certain races had evolved less (which cannot mix with the teaching of any holy book). But sure, live in the dream world that you are super-intelligent and anyone else who contradicts you is dumb... hatred of religion, denial of any God, requires strong religious belief. Faith. Once you get over that and just admit it, then we can agree everybody has a religious belief, then you can debate whether or not one is better than the other... BTW there are hundreds of written accounts that Jesus DID live - whether or not He is the only begotten Son of God is up to faith.

      LindiBleu - 2011-06-14 09:01

      "religion is the opium of the masses" Marx

      Matt - 2011-06-14 09:03

      Take a bacteria. We all allegedly "evolved" from it. It's so small, you can only see it under a microscope. It had little hairs; on each hair is a motor with 40 parts - all parts are dependent on each other to work. It turns at 100,000rpm and the bacteria can move 90km/h through water, which is equivalent to a human swimming 90km/h through peanut butter. Hmm - 40 parts per motor on a miniscule bacteria, each one relies on the other to work... Thumbs up if you would call this a design Thumbs down if you would say this came out of the clear blue sky by chance

      Matt - 2011-06-14 09:17

      @ LindiBleu - is Karl Marx someone you really want to quote to prove a point?

      zaatheist - 2011-06-14 10:35

      @Old Man Where is your evidence for the existence of any of the 4000 man made gods or the god you seem to believe exists.

      Worldwise - 2011-06-14 11:25

      Matt, There is no god and we are also not god as you illogically deduce. God is a man made construct. Man has constructed about 5000 gods to serve his motives of control over gullible people. How do you know that the one of your construct is the correct one? Play the lotto?

      Matt - 2011-06-14 13:17

      @ Worldwise - ah, you need to study religions... "There is no god and we are also not god as you illogically deduce." OK, so if there is no God, then who is in charge? And the first answer one usually gets is along the lines of "I decide what's right and wrong". Er, what is being said there... oh yeah. "I am my own God". If you think I'm talking rubbish, research humanism, read the Humanist Manifesto...

  • FAH-Q - 2011-06-14 07:36

    One day people will realize what a farce religion is. It was created to control the masses and of course a money making machine.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 09:39

      Just a suggestion - research the history behind the existence of a Central Bank. See who thought it up, see how it was put into practice and see what it's caused. Especially the one in USA.

      FAH-Q - 2011-06-14 13:16

      Watch a doccie called Zeitgeist. We have been lied to since the very beginning!!

      Matt - 2011-06-14 14:34

      @ FAH-Q - oh I have... it takes wrong info from the start, then proceeds to come up with a crazy conclusion as a result. EG: all religions are apparently related to a martyr who was born on 25 December... except that any Christian can tell you that Jesus was not born on 25 December. That was a day purposefully selected by the Catholic Church (ooh another topic altogether) to coincide with a pagan ritual. Read the Bible and Luke tells us that Jesus was born "when the shepherds watched their flocks by night" which would NEVER happen in December in that region - it was so cold at night in the winter that at night, the flock were safely locked up in barns or else they'd freeze to death... So yeah. The info is wrong from the beginning and so it comes up with a wacky conclusion... Interesting part 2 though about the 9/11 story...

  • John - 2011-06-14 07:38

    And this moron's vote is worth the same as mine

      Worldwise - 2011-06-14 11:26

      And those of his followers. Scary huh?

  • Podgette - 2011-06-14 07:55

    Christian Bishop believing / carrying out muti instruction... something seriously awry.

  • Lisa - 2011-06-14 08:23

    Go to hell u disgusting excuses for human beings!!!

      Matt - 2011-06-14 14:42

      You're assuming too much... if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour (and mean it!), you're going to heaven. That's all! Every person ever alive is/was a sinner, and sins are equal to God - it is humans who put value on sin. So, telling a lie is "ok" but murder is bad. No, both are bad... and besides, salvation is based on repentance and acceptance. If you do wrong, you must still be punished, but if you repent and accept, that's your chance to change your life around. Everyone deserves that chance, even if you've done something awful and you are about to be executed for it (can think of some good reasons), you still have that chance with God to repent and get saved (and then get punished if applicable) Oh, and if you keep mocking God, hell awaits you - whether you go now or in 50 years... sorry, that's just the rules bud. But then why are you worried atheist, if you're 100% certain that there's nothing after death anyway?

      sardonicus - 2011-06-14 15:34

      How can anyone accept Jesus as a 'real' God? I check these okes with their stickers say 'real man follow Jesus' and I think to myself you're probably behind the production of those stickers. Jesus couldn't save himself, how is he going to save me? Like I said, Jesus is a zombie and religion is for fools who need something/someone to follow.

      sardonicus - 2011-06-14 15:36

      Hey Matt, and what if I accept someone else as my lord, oh lets say Krishna or Jupiter or Seth or Athena or Kali?

  • kalabafazi - 2011-06-14 08:40

    What the hell!!! And I thought bishops were at least moderatley educated. If they are, then there is going to be no end to this senseless way of thinking and resulting blood shed.

  • Carolyn - 2011-06-14 08:53

    I am an atheist I do not believe in the bible or God, and all the so called false stories that are written. But this so call BISHOP should be hung from the nearest tree and then cut open with what ever the community can find.With his insides laid bare on the ground for all those so called worshipers to grovel in.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 09:16

      If you don't believe in the Bible, what happens when the Bible says something that is true?

      zaatheist - 2011-06-14 10:39

      Ag matt. The a work of fiction; a book compiled from the plagiarised texts of ancient religions by bronze age sheep herders; translated from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek texts to Latin and edited by the Catholic Church, translated into English and re-edited by the Church of England as instructed by King James to conform with his views, and interpreted to fit the preexisting values of anyone who quotes from it,.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 10:56

      @ za-atheist: Matthew 6:19 - Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: Besides being good advice; look at it scientifically. Oxygen oxydises anything (moth and dust) - leave a car outside and the paint job will rot; the metal will rust; leave food out and it will mold. Plus, it is clearly also referring to the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Maybe the Bronze Age sheep herders weren't as dumb as you assume them to be...

      mbossenger - 2011-06-14 12:44

      Not sure where exactly that passage refers to the 2nd law of thermodynamics. And the passage seems to be anthropomorphising rust?

      Matt - 2011-06-14 13:21

      @ mbossenger: "where moth and rust doth corrupt" - so everything tends to decay. Second Law of Thermodynamics - Increased Entropy The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same (First Law), the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy. In other words, everything tends to decay.

      zaatheist - 2011-06-14 13:54

      Really matt Constantly quoting the bibble as your sole source of evidence is hardly convincing. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. - 1 Corinthians 13:11 How old are you?

      Matt - 2011-06-14 14:52

      @ za-atheist - oh brother... no matter what I quote, you're not interested anyway... if the Bible called something blue, you would call it red just to be anti! "don't store up treasures on earth as they're all going to mold, rust or get stolen" - that's bloody good advice, even if you're not a believer! How many people lust, desire after an object and then when they have it, it still doesn't satisfy their desires - and even though it's new and expensive, it will still break, wear out, fade away... then the fact that it is also a simple way of referring to two elements of science, despite accusations of it being a primitive book (ie you're just calling it dumb). That's not me trying to prove the existence of God or what have you - that's me showing you that you only know what your pre-conceived ideas believe, and without copy-paste your brain would probably hurt. You can call the Bible dumb, or you could read it and see just how much intelligence is in there. But let's face it, you're the type who would reject anything the Bible says, even if it were 100% indisputably correct. Just like another moegoe we know called Moses Mordecai Marx Levy... and look where his hatred of God and desire to contradict the Bible 24/7 led him to! BTW I'm heading for 31 :-) and you?

      sardonicus - 2011-06-14 15:54

      The bible, the quran, the gita, they have some good advice for a good life, but then again when you look at the advice its just common sense. And you get bishops engaging in this sort of behaviour, totally outside of what christianity should have taught him. Christianity has failed the bishop and so many other followers who claim to be christian but then live like heathen. Kind of pointless. You need not be a follower of religion to be truly wise, all you need is common sense.

      ryan.holland.395454 - 2012-11-14 17:36

      @Matt. So what you are saying is that everything in this world is superfluous including your own body because everything "rusts" (temporal duration dictates worth). Given the scant (and I mean zero) evidence for heaven, it sounds like a rather cynical worldview. We are always told of the marvels of Gods creation and here you are saying it's really all worthless junk. Well not to me. Ironic also that you use the Bacterial flagellum as a evidence of Gods design. An apparatus that helps some bacteria swim through the gut of little children while eating them alive from the inside. Nice.

  • Pleasethink - 2011-06-14 08:54

    I am starting to think there is something in the water with so many crazy people out there. The fact is that enforced law will increase prosecution, but it wont reduce the amount of nutters. South Africa is de-evolving- due to lack of integrity/morality/conscience.It seems like we are returning to our deep dark african roots and I dont see any hope ahead, only chaos. Human beings will be the end of themselves.The question is what will increase integrity/morality/conscience.

  • Spokie - 2011-06-14 08:58

    They will never turn their backs on their forefathers and muti crimes, does not matter if he is a church bishop or not. Bloody stupid idiot.

  • mugu.eater - 2011-06-14 09:02

    How is it still possible for people in this day and age to believe in muti and killing a human being will somehow benefit you. Still have a long way to go to become civilised

  • truth - 2011-06-14 09:09

    These people practise PAGANISM and then people see it as religion, it is so shocking that people can be so blind.

      Moi1980 - 2011-06-14 10:13

      Interesting read. Not much fact, but interesting. :)

      Valkerie - 2011-06-14 10:51

      "Amazing Facts" - "God's Message is our Mission"...? Sorry truth, this information and its source is biased, to say the least. Oh, and by the way, paganism IS a religion - one of many - and doesn't generally subscribe to muti killings. Not that you'd know this for your closed minded indoctrination anyway. It's so shocking that you can be so blind! *sigh* This case is one of greed and pride, nothing more. Very human traits and nothing divine. And severely ironic too - a man of the cloth subscribing to "black magic" for more sheep in the congregation. Reminds me of the voodoo-christian beliefs in Haiti and the US South, where the local religion still find a place alongside the "new"/"western" christian beliefs.

      mbossenger - 2011-06-14 12:33

      My wife is pagan and she's never practised a muti killing. Is she doing something wrong?

      Matt - 2011-06-14 13:23

      I know some pagans and they're definitely not into muti killing, or killing of any kind. It depends on the strand I guess - if you're talking about tribal stuff in deepest Africa, yeah - if you're talking about people worshiping stones and "Mother Nature", nope

      james.hurley.5249 - 2012-09-27 11:53

      yeah, religion is so civilized (compared to paganism) - firstly the abrahamic religions stole plenty of customs from paganism - secondly, this 'religion' that is supposedly better than paganism includes the Pope's 'permission' which was given to colonizers to rule over various parts of the world in the 1400s. And 'pagans' are the barbarians?

  • diode - 2011-06-14 10:22

    jip i'm sure satanic churches want to stockpile body parts, its because of this "culture" of black magic and muti why God is turning His back to this country. Too many devil worshipping demons amoungst us.

  • ColinG - 2011-06-14 10:37

    There's a good and a bad side to religion, politics, education, and economics. This is definitely bad religion.

  • Oppressor - 2011-06-14 10:59

    Its a pity us whites have to share the country with these uncivilised creatures.

      Bubbles007 - 2011-06-14 11:07

      What does the colour of your skin have to do with it. All of us, black, white, pink, purple have to live with these barbarians! An innocent life was taken and her parents (happen to be black) also have to breath the same air these things breath. Please dont make the loss of life a racial issue. It can happen to anyone. There are white witch doctors out there as well, dont be fooled by skin colour. That would be your first mistake.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 11:11

      @ Bubbles007 - I suspect Oppressor is a troll - let's not give him/her too much attention :-) and btw heck no it's not a racial issue - but the issue of a cruel kidnap and murder!

      benita.debeer.58 - 2012-09-27 12:37

      Think again my friend. Evil knows no colour, and God loves us all the same.

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:23

    thank God is not a Nigeria passport, someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:23

    thank God is not a Nigeria passport, someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:24

    thank God is not a Nigeria passport, someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:29

    thank God is not a Nigeria pastor , someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:30

    thank God is not a Nigeria pastor, someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • chi chi - 2011-06-14 12:30

    thank God is not a Nigeria pastor, someone would have suggest to deport all them and there churches

  • Realistiqly - 2011-06-14 13:02

    I'm speechless.... Only in SA can one draw people to preach the gospel with evil intent.

      benita.debeer.58 - 2012-09-27 12:40

      Gospel of Jesus Christ is: Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for sins, and therefor we turn away from it, IF we really belong to Him. If we don't really belong to Him, we will be doing these horrible sins. Not everyone saying: Lord Lord, will enter Kingdom of God / will be saved. Giving up our sinful lives is evident to what the Gospel really means.

  • Victor - 2011-06-14 13:26

    Frightining, disappointing..... guess all we have left is to hang on to our faith. I'm a Christian and I am proud in saying that I love Jesus Christ He is my Saviour, and its my choice to believe in HIM! no matter what scientific or what ever evidence there is !!!!!!

      Matt - 2011-06-14 15:01

      Amen to your enthusiasm brother... but atheists will flock to "whatever scientific evidence"... they have this crazy idea that there is scientifically reproducable and demonstratable evidence for theories that exclude God - when so far all "evidence" has either been proven wrong, admitted to be theoretical, or just plain lies. Then, when there are examples of evidence that point towards a young earth, or a creator/intelligent designer, they write it off, try to hide it, or just resort to calling us names... Basically, the evolution theory is similar to Mormonism. With Mormonism, Robert Smith "found commandments in the woods" and when people wanted to see them, "they're not there anymore" - and still people believed him, hence we have Mormons. Bit like evolution - in the 19th Century they were trying to teach it but had no proof or explanation - Darwin wrote his book - "oh there we go, that's good enough" and hence it's now a theory. Even though Darwin never did explain the origin of species (google quotes by evolutionists agreeing with this), and the final sentence of the book (1st edition only) he wrote that it is evidence for a CREATOR (later edited out)... so it's a theory which excludes God and is a prerequisite for being atheistic, it has no actual demonstratable proof, lies that were proven as such are still used today as evidence... Science is on OUR side, not the monkey-men's :-) Jesus saves, just ask Him to, what are you all waiting for :-D

      Victor - 2011-06-14 15:12

      @Matt, thanks for your input! just wanto say that I dont have anything against anyone that does not believe in God or religion. It's everyone's choice to choose what and who they wanto believe in! I will not force my Christianity on anyone, and expect the same from them!

      Matt - 2011-06-14 15:41

      I agree Victor. Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them In other words, by all means share the Good News but if they don't want to listen, leave it at that... leave them be, and love them anyway! If the atheists didn't all flock to any story related to any form of religion to display their hatred of religion (and for some reason they almost always zoom in on Christianity), then I wouldn't keep on posting so much in defense. But their religious zeal in demonstrating their religious intolerance is remarkable...

  • jevoixtout - 2011-06-14 15:23

    The big question here is, why is every one judging Christianity by the deeds of some phsyco "bishop"? This savage is a fraud. That should be evident to even the most misinformed. Some of you are directing your anger in the wrong direction and at the wrong people. Time to think clearly and focus on what actualy happend here.

      Matt - 2011-06-14 15:42


      Victor - 2011-06-15 08:43

      Agreed !

  • Kevin - 2011-06-14 16:04

    This Bishop is supposed to know and teach the word of God,the only real religion. Here a stupid herbalist tells him he needs body parts and he does it.Get rid of these evil witch doctors who want people hurt. They are all false , evil and should be halted in there tracks. It should be a crime to see a witch doctor

      Bacon - 2011-06-14 16:34

      Not that I'm condoning his actions, but the strength of this guys convictions probably seems every bit as real to him as yours do to you.

  • karenadawkins - 2012-08-24 09:48

    ive read three stories all harming children - muti muti muti- if someone from these witch doctors ever tried to hurt my children i would make dam sure the world new about it in a way that this disgusting practice stops !

  • kenny.albano.96 - 2012-09-11 10:46

    I have just read the story and all of the comments. I believe this is very bad that this is being done. I am an atheist. I would say that religion itself may be part to blame or not to blame, I still don't know. But I do think there are other factors other than religion because the fact that these atrocities mostly happened in the past or in a few places must mean something. I would say this has absolutely nothing to do with race. But it may likely have something to do with culture. Even though I am an atheist I have read a few chapters of different religious books. I have read parts of the bible, the koran, the ramayana, the Tibetan book of the dead and dozens of books about various religions and books about atheism, deism, and atheism. I think discussion about religion is good but should always be done carefully and never turn violent or overly hostile.

  • benita.debeer.58 - 2012-09-27 12:34

    This has evil written all over it. Wake up government! It is time you choose which god you want to worship. Satan or God. People are following in your footsteps and tehy copy your evil deeds. And if it is going to be evil spirits and the spirits of your ancestors, all under the control of the Father of Lies, which is Satan, you will be sorry because he will destroy you. Lives will be lost. But if you choose to follow the only true and living God, Creator of heaven and earth, and turn to our Redeemer Jesus Christ, through whom we get salvation of sins, your life and those of your children will be blessed and saved. A lot of us were lucky to have christian ancestors who did not slaughter us for their own evil desires, and who did not worship dead ancestors and spirits of the world, but prayed for us instead. They brought our lives before our King and we are now in right standing relationship with Christ. I pray the same for our nation and our country. May God destroy all evil in these people's hearts, and save that little girl.

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-10-11 10:25

    This is witchcraft - pure & simple. A primitive belief system of Voodoo and toad tails. All bollocks. This is pure Evil, hurting children, bottom line and not in any Gods name you choose to answer too!

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