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Blair shrugs off arrest threats

2012-08-30 10:25

Johannesburg - Former UK prime minister Tony Blair has shrugged off protests and threats of a citizen's arrest against him by South Africans Muslim groups, The Star reported on Thursday.

"What I say to these groups is this: 'Why don't you actually go and protest against the people doing the killing?'" he told the paper.

"The vast majority of people dying from terrorist activity [are] Muslim on Muslim violence," Blair said.

The groups have threatened to make a citizen's arrest against him when he appears at the Discovery Invest Leadership conference in Sandton on Thursday.

Blair also responded to criticism from Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, who pulled out of the conference.

Tutu had said Blair's part in the invasion of Iraq based on unfounded allegations of weapons of mass destruction was "morally indefensible".

Blair said the invasion of Iraq was needed to remove Saddam Hussein, who had committed atrocities, from power.

"These are very difficult decisions. But I don't think you could say that leaving Saddam Hussein in place was a morally superior choice. So I think it's sensible for us to just agree to disagree on it," Blair said.

Comments
  • tandi.freeman - 2012-08-30 10:43

    Silly man,Blair.He fell for all George W.Bush's nonsense!Shame on him!

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-08-30 11:32

      He did not "fall" for anything at all.

  • sbu.mahwai - 2012-08-30 10:50

    Could agree more - while their protesting a mortar is hitting civilians in Syria and other parts of the Middle East. I guess is Blair

  • jack.shiels - 2012-08-30 10:50

    Why is Mr. Blair even a free man? His war crimes along with Bush were inexcusable.

  • akhona.mashaya - 2012-08-30 10:55

    War criminals need to be detained and tried by the ICC. Or does the Hague only prosecute African and Asians? Under the Geneva treaty, it clearly states that Blair and Bush were guilty of war crimes(torturing and killing innocent civilians). This man needs to be arrested, its a pity that the presidential scrotum is devoid of balls. War crimes need to be punished. Why are we harbouring criminals? Oh ja, our government defends white capital and compromises its founding principles and the safety of civilians. The ICC and and the UN are a farce. Institutionalised racism.

      Sandy - 2012-08-30 11:15

      akhona - you ARE a Racist - and to answer your question "Why are we harbouring criminals?" - Just look at most of your ANC, there are many with records and others being investigated - dude - does the term clean out your own closet mean anything to you?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-30 12:00

      Shawn it is a race issue,you guys are here on this forum applauding a terrorist simply because he happens to be white, even the American citizens were angered by that war when they realized there were no weapons of mass destruction and y

      burningdogz - 2012-08-30 12:26

      Oh please. Are you ashamed of being black or something? Talk about chewing sour grapes. Those people in America and UK protesting about the war...guess the color. UN leadership....guess the colour. Bush and Blair managed to spindoctor like pros to justify their bull, just like our honey mouthed politicians stealing candy from the poor people's babies and convincing them it is for their own good. Also, trying to compare the actions of the western soldiers who were still very tightly bound by the rules of war as opposed to the genocidal maniacs of other convicted warcriminals is a bit of a stretch. Your opinion is filtered through your colour glasses. Want to mention anything about Obama's hand in the war?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-30 13:16

      Burningdog I swear i dont know what you on about and the rlevance of being ashamed of my skin colour? where the hell does that fit in? I'm not sure we talkingabout the same issue

      shawn.swiegers - 2012-08-30 13:43

      Lorain, if you read my comment I made no mention of whether or not I agreed with Tony Blair. So your comment about me supporting terrorists are a moot point. Again dont just assume by my picture that I made a racial comment. You apparently have race related hany ups, dont paint us all the same way.

      burningdogz - 2012-08-31 08:19

      Oh dear Lorain, do a bit of introspection and you might see what I am on about. The Tony Blair saga is not a race issue and yet every bloody time something happens someone pops on and goes: "It is because they are white that everything is better for them!" This is a bit of a reflection of what is going on inside YOU, like a little jealous child crying because big brother is better at everything. My argument was actually very simple if you took it into context, but let me summarize: There is ZERO evidence that the treatment of Tony Blair and Bush had anything to do with the colour of their skin, so the fact that you brought it up and harped on it says more about your own insecurities than it does about the political state of the world. STOP assuming that that the way you are treated is because of the colour of your skin and think that maybe, just maybe there is a legitimate reason for the treatment which you could work on in a way to grow in a positive manner rather than blindly blundering forward and blaming everyone else for things going wrong.

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-30 10:56

    Sorry Arch, for once you have got it wrong! I guess its the lime lite signing in his eye`s

  • Jacques - 2012-08-30 11:07

    I'm with Blair on this, and also don't like Tutu's attitude of pulling out of the event. As a prominent figure, that's pretty 'tantrum'-ish. As for the Iraq invasion- WMD or not, Hussain was eventually taken from power, and Blair himself can't carry all the blame considering Bush's influences there too. Sticky one, this, will obviously offend a few somewhere down the line.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-08-30 11:34

      Seeing as TooToo has pulled out of this event in protest against Blair will he now also be repaying his appearance fee?

  • Aaron - 2012-08-30 11:10

    Blair is a war crimnal . Well done Arch, you are the moral consience of our society

  • sandytaylor11 - 2012-08-30 11:12

    What this war criminal did not say is that he colluded with that other war criminal GW Bush to ignore the UN's rules and illegally invade Iraq.

      jack.shiels - 2012-08-30 22:29

      People do not understand state sovereignty. They think it's OK to go police the world because Sky News said that the big bad terrorists are out to get them.

  • johan.shaw.77 - 2012-08-30 11:21

    They should consult the sangoma the Lonmin crowd used. They would then be bulletproof and they can just walk past his SAS bodyguards and grab him. Just don't kill the rabbit! What is wrong with these people? That they really expect to walk up and arrest him? Maybe Santa will help?

  • crdmorley - 2012-08-30 11:22

    B-LIAR logic that Saddam was committing atrocities was the reason for the invasion! If that was the reason why was Zim or other countries where atrocities are happening not invaded? The reason they gave us was WOMD! The intelligence reports were cooked up! 150000 Iraqi's have died! The only thing they did find was oil! Did I mention the American President and Veepee had close ties to oil companies?

      boaz.yarmarkov - 2012-08-30 19:21

      Saddam invaded Kuwait. Saddam killed one million Iraqi civilians, Saddam killed close to a million Iranians, Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of Kurds. Saddam is now gone... We paid a heavy price... But how many more millions would have died had Saddam stayed in power... Good on the west taking him down.

      crdmorley - 2012-08-30 22:31

      Boaz. It is amazing how history has been spliced in your argument to exclude the fact that Saddams war against Iran was sponsored by the Americans! I would also be interested to see how reliable are the stats for his murdering a million Iraqis or are we to believe everything CNN tells us? Look Saddam was a murderous dictator but if that was the motivation then why is Mad Bob still in power? This war was not about WOMD but WIFM (what's in it for me)

  • hannes.bez.3 - 2012-08-30 11:22

    Why dont Britain - and the USA - just admit that they took out Hussein because he was going to sell oil in Euros, no longer in US$. And Gadafi because he was lining uo other countries to sell oil in golden dinars? So suddenly big brother and consorts would have to pay for oil with something of value rather than worthless dollars.

      chrono.man.7 - 2012-08-30 11:42

      There is the real reason, not because he was bad, which he was, but then the US and Brittain proved to be his equals in that department.

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-08-30 11:37

    Mense gee hulleself 'n slegte naam. As 'n mens sekere woorde hoor dan dink jy dadelik aan'n sekere groep en hulle bring dit oor hulself. Soos renosterhoring - Vietnam, dwelms - Nigeriƫ, Motorbomme, selfmoordbomme - Muslims. Geen ander groep is so behep met bomme stel so hulle nie en is uiters onverdraagsaam. Ongelukkig moet die goeie mense ook swaar dra aan die slegte naam.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-08-30 11:37

    The repeated invasions of Middle Eastern countries is about oil, nothing else.

      jack.shiels - 2012-08-30 22:31

      Oil and control of states outside of Western influence... makes me ashamed to come from this side of the world.

  • Matthew Slade - 2012-08-30 11:43

    He's a war criminal

  • punungwe - 2012-08-30 11:48

    It seems Blair is living in a world apart from the rest us. Most of the summary, extrajudicial and undocumented killings terrorizing much of the Muslim world are from drone strikes. Right now if you are a Muslim living is Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan or Somalia you can die any minute because someone the Americans (and their favourite poodles) don't like passed through your village. Secondly the moral issues over Iraq are not just removal of Saddam, but the safety and quality of life of the Iraqis as well. The fact that Blair fails to mention all these other issues is testimony that even he is aware that the Iraqi invasion has cost Iraqis more than it has saved them. For example the number of dead is estimated at over 100 000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War) by all credible sources. Also massacres and atrocities in individual towns also happened after Saddam was deposed. Fallujah is a case in point. Even up to now, the West has still not managed to ensure a better future for Iraqis and signs are that they never will. Rather events look like they will still take their natural course until the Iraqis settle matters among themselves.

  • punungwe - 2012-08-30 11:49

    Last Mr Blair in case you hadn't noticed, in the eyes of many Fallujah = Halabja

  • peanutcluster - 2012-08-30 11:53

    The man is a liar and a hypocrite who lies with a straight face! Gaddafi was his bff not long ago! Blair makes millions in consultancy fees off the dictatorships in the Mideast!

  • chris.kleynhans - 2012-08-30 12:03

    Tony Blair and George Bush are war criminals and it won't go away by talking sweetly about their achievements. Well done Bishop Tutu, well done sir!!!!

  • erich.goosen - 2012-08-30 12:06

    I appreciate Blair's views of this 'gogga maak vir baba bang' attitude by a bunch of self-appointed moralists. These self-rightness local anti-western vocal gang can only see the wrongs they perceive to be done against their own but will seldom if ever raise their voices against dictators in Arabic and Moslem countries where much bigger attrocities are being committed against their own kind. See what is happening at present in Syria. I do not think these spineless bunch is capable of executing a citizen's arrest which will probably, if it should happen, create another international scandal and will result in the 'executioners' being arrested for kidnapping. I also find the deafening silence and this selective morality displayed by our South African moral custodians in the case of Robert Mugabe unacceptable. He is directly responsible for numerous human right crimes, the killing of thousands and unconstitutional appropriation of property of farmers. Never had this self-appointed watchdog protested Mugabe's presence here when this dictator visited SA.

  • lulama - 2012-08-30 12:19

    Don't worry Blair, even if arrested with our justice system U will be out in 1 day.

  • rafick.valli - 2012-08-30 12:33

    Mr.Blair, you and your pathetic partner Bush, are both war criminals & terrorists. You're hands are more drenched in blood, than Saddam Hussein! Firstly you'll got the UN to impose harsh sanctions on Iraq after Saddam invaded Kuwait. The Iraqi people bore the biggest brunt of these sactions, not Saddam!. It is estimated that approx 500,000 Iraqi children died from the affects of these sactions (malnutrition, lack of medical supplies, diseases, lack of clean water etc). If the sanctions was not enough suffering for the Iraqi people, you then illegally invaded Iraq using the blatant lies that Saddam was harbouring WMD's, when all you were interested in, was your share of the oil. Over 1.2 million deaths have been estimated from this latest conflict and Iraq is in a much worse off condition than under Saddam's rule! Your day of reckoning is comming .. you want be able to run, hide behind the U.S, or evade the questions ... it's only a matter of time!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-08-30 12:37

    How about you arrest Robert or Disgrace Mugarbage instead ? what a load of cr@p.

  • khanyi.myataza - 2012-08-30 13:01

    I guess it is a morally superior choice to kill more Iraqis on your way to removing a man who is hiding on a manhole, only to prevent him from killing more Iraqis.

  • kefnix - 2012-08-30 14:25

    Why are they blaming one man. One should blame religions, That's where all the problems began. It was around 308AD when it became east vs west from the doctrines of Christianity, and later Islam started in around 610AD. All the hate has built over generations and everyone has forgotten why. Don't hesitate, educate. Naughty Naughty Christianity!! oh, its too taboo

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