Boy 'beaten' for playing with DA poster

2011-05-25 07:23

Johannesburg - A North West school teacher has been charged with assault after allegedly hitting a 9-year-old pupil for playing with a DA poster, according to Wednesday's edition of the New Age newspaper.

Ruby Nkobane appeared in the Bloemhof Magistrate's Court on Monday and was released on bail of R1 000.

A Grade 1 pupil and some of his friends at a primary school in Boitumelong were apparently holding a Democratic Alliance poster and shouting: "We will vote for the DA", on the playground on Monday, May 16, two days before the local government elections.

Nkobane walked over and allegedly knocked the boy to the ground, leaving him with a cut lip and swollen eye.

A passer-by took him to a local clinic.

  • Grayman - 2011-05-25 07:31

    Ah! Now we see the violence inherited in the system. Help, help, I'm being repressed! (Monty Python)

      Anton - 2011-05-25 08:07

      Bloody peasant.

      donkerhond - 2011-05-25 08:11

      Didn't he say "oppressed"?

      RobinB - 2011-05-25 08:30

      Haha.. .. .. Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you?

      BurnInEffigy - 2011-05-25 09:09

      Its just a fleshwound!

      WatchDog - 2011-05-25 09:15

      It is "......inherent in the system.." Grayman...... bloody peasant!

      Grayman - 2011-05-25 09:26

      @WatchDog - I was just checking if you were awake this morning. Oh what a give away.

      Graydon Meneses - 2011-05-25 09:30

      (inherent) and he DID say repressed. Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you. Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.

      Spoofed - 2011-05-25 10:12

      Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?

      Charles Kane - 2011-05-25 11:00

      @ siya -- Listen to you justify this act of savagery. What a thoughtless comment by a poorly educated fool. The very worst legacy of apartheid is how ill-educated it left our people. The only appropriate response is outrage at this teacher's behaviour. - 2011-05-25 11:04

      Not at all. They could be carried

      Cire - 2011-05-25 11:10

      You don't vote for kings!

      latinlyrics - 2011-05-25 11:20

      @Siya- Your an idiot. Please tell me what does the ANC do for the people. How many members have been prosecuted for corruption.... How much of the people's money do they steal! Do me a favour travel the world a little... get educated on good government. SA has a terrible government who does not care for its people and takes advantage of blind loyalty. In the time that the ANC has been in power the country should be further ahead in service delivery, fighting crime and dealing with poverty. YET they focus on affirmative action which (if you familiarise yourself with the concept) seeks to promote the interests of black people who were lucky enough to get an education... How about providing the people of this country with EDUCATION-- a tool to better their lives and develop their careers... we need farmers we need engineers we need doctors... the jobs are there and we have a shortage... Time to leave your ignorance behind and realise that the ANC is not moving the country forward. Time for another governmeent... Doesnt have to be the DA but until the ANC learns that if they do not perform they wont get votes... NOTHING WILL IMPROVE! - 2011-05-25 13:20

      @Cire: How do know he is a king?

      Eric West - 2011-05-25 14:07

      I bet the "teecha" belongs to SADTU.

      Meanleader - 2011-05-25 15:41

      How civilised !! This is about on par for her kind ..... and they run a country . Little wonder SA is the laughing stock of the civilised world !

      Grb - 2011-05-26 08:00

      what did you expect? the Spanish Inquisition?

  • troybee - 2011-05-25 07:35

    that was so pathetic...i mean kids deserve to be kids after all

      World Traveler - 2011-05-25 08:52

      Viva el Cid

      Zambezi - 2011-05-25 09:17

      Ja, but it just goes to show that your average undeucated idiot does not want to an educated person vote for anybody but the ANC. He might be a teacher with a university degree - but he isn't educated - he learnt like a parrot to be able to pass. To be educated, you need to have a bit of intelligence. Unfortunately your average SA teacher is un-educated!!!!!!!!

      50something - 2011-05-25 09:49

      ...and vote for who they want to. What about instilling the values of democracy into them from an early age.

      Frungy - 2011-05-26 03:35

      Zambezi - "Ja, but it just goes to show that your average undeucated idiot does not want to an educated person vote for anybody but the ANC. He might be a teacher with a university degree - but he isn't educated" Actually Jambezi he probably doesn't have a university degree, the vast majority of teachers have lousy teaching diplomas, barely better than matrics. I would prefer to go back to the days when a masters degree was required to teach a subject!

      schmerz - 2011-05-26 11:21

      Even children see past the ANC crap, it's a shame, they will probably be converted by their propaganda

      KnysnaSha - 2011-05-26 14:21

      They must open a case of assault against her and she must be fired and put on the B-list with the Department of Social Development so that she can not work with children again. Assaulting a child is an offense and must not be tolerated. People with that sort of attitude should NEVER be working with kids.

  • iamasouthafr - 2011-05-25 07:39

    Children do not differentiate - it is the parents and teachers that show them how........

      Felix - 2011-05-25 08:31

      They can't integrate either. Calculus is was too difficult!

      TypicalDarkie - 2011-05-25 08:36

      HAHAHA, good one Felix

      Ricksta - 2011-05-25 08:43

      @iamasouthafr - If you're going to point fingers at others' GRAMMAR, then learn how to spell.

      Nicholas - 2011-05-25 08:47

      iamasouthafr they being children you chop

      neo_acheron - 2011-05-25 08:52

      @iamasouthafr Why so defensive all of a sudden? Feeling a bit threatened? Don't you know what differentiation and integration is?

      iamasouthafr - 2011-05-25 08:56

      @neo - threatened - good choice of words. Teach me oh glorious one!

      Felix - 2011-05-25 08:58

      Children (pretty obvious). Just poking a bit of fun.... Half of the teachers these days can't understand fractions so I doubt they would understand gradient, let alone integrating to the nth degree.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-05-25 09:02

      @Felix - LOL I actually tried to delete my comment - i was a bit quick on the defensive.

      Felix - 2011-05-25 09:09

      no worries :)

      Alex Joker - 2011-05-25 10:54

      So is it integration by parts or trigonometric substitution? I thnk its by parts coz da teacher smacked da kids apart.

      katySA - 2011-05-25 14:29

      @ Ricksta ....?????

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-05-25 07:44

    Political intollerance knows NO bounds! Shame on you woman!

      Janina - 2011-05-25 08:28

      I agree. Shame on her. He's only a little boy

      Thembisile - 2011-05-25 08:45

      This is a clear demostration of political intolerance, nmost South Africans need political education.

      Barry M - 2011-05-25 16:32

      Albeit a little DA boy!

  • leigh.ridgway - 2011-05-25 07:50

    If I was this childs mother, I would have marched straight to the school, grabbed that teacher and shoved an ANC poster right up where the sun don't shine!

      wattalotokak - 2011-05-25 08:07

      is that his brain? hahaha I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH!!!

      Matt - 2011-05-25 09:00

      If this happened to my son, I would never rest till the teacher was in jail and getting bummed by Mr Big in the showers. Kids are supposed to be SAFE at school!

      NO-BULL - 2011-05-25 09:05

      This child probably got a beating when he got home. How dare this child do such "horrible" things as supporting the DA. The ANC has provided lots of corruption, hatred, public racism, crime is now relative to skin color and they get to take dumps in public because the wonderful ANC didn't know that those thousands of toilets were not completed yet. The ANC employs drug traficers as minister of health and a rapist for president... How would any of this have been possible if anyone had voted for the devil? This child is lucky his parent's didn't beat him to death for not dying at the hands of a teacher that promotes the good will of open toilets to all

      Singo - 2011-05-25 09:56

      No one said she's an ANC member though.

      Clean Shaven Laven - 2011-05-25 15:25

      @NO-BULL Nice one. :)

      Clean Shaven Laven - 2011-05-25 15:26

      @Singo You're absolutely right. But then ask yourself, would a supporter of any _other_ party react in the same way ? I doubt it.

  • Mall Rat - 2011-05-25 07:51

    and so democracy cries again, democracy = freedom of choice and a 9 year old can not vote so why beat him up? n

  • Toby C. Goss - 2011-05-25 07:52


      Martin-John - 2011-05-25 09:59

      @ KING and where is it stated that this sites are only for English speaking people??? Once again you your idiot shows the Afrikaner the reason why Afrikaners and Englishmen cant get along. You are obviously not informed of the fact that Afrikaans is the language spoken by the most of the residents of South Africa??? Get a life your rooinek

  • spiderkzn - 2011-05-25 07:52

    You go Boy! be strong vote for One Nation One Future

      mike - 2011-05-25 11:45

      you mean one nation no future

  • Clinton - 2011-05-25 07:52

    This guy is a teacher. This is the sort of people with that low plunket mentality that we trust with the education and mentoring of our children. Think this dude needs to go look for another job. Something maybe in the line of invading small countries and over throwing governments that is already in power. If he acts quickly they can even use him in Sudan right now!

      NO-BULL - 2011-05-25 09:12

      Dude...!!!! My wife works at a doctor's office where she regularly sees black ENGLISH TEACHERS who can't even complete basic forms. Hell, the paper reads: "Name" and she has to ask "where I must write my name?" Followed by "What I must put here?" ...and this is not one English teacher, there are 3 that she has told me about that frequent the office. 3 from different schools just in our immediate area... It's all about the BEE and the oppression of the white man. Who cares if the kids learn anything. Did you notice it said in the article that this kid is 9 and in grade 1? That means this kid has already failed first grade twice... Down with apartheid. Go equality. Create a country filed with idiots of the same magnitude as the idiots that run it.

      Psalm - 2011-05-25 11:50

      @ No Bull You clearly misrepresent the problem. Many of the Black teachers in the system were trained under your beloved Apartheid system, which PREVENTED Black teachers from obtaining appropriate qualifications. Many of these teachers have been teaching for more than 20 years. These teachers are not products of BEE (as you so comtemptously and falsely claim), they are a product of White oppression called Apartheid and Bantu education. Having said that, the Dept of Education has been running programs to upgrade teacher knowledge and qualifications. The programs provide scholarships to teachers already in the system to enable them to register with Universities, etc to obtain appropriate further training. But ofcourse in YOUR fairytale world, there was no Apartheid, there was no Bantu education that produced poorly qualified Black teachers who now teach dubious Maths and Science to Black pupils. No, no - the world imagined all that. In your fantasy, Blacks got the same opportunities as Whites, they even voted!

      katySA - 2011-05-25 14:37

      According to the article, the theacher is Ruby Nkobane Ruby being a female!

      Clean Shaven Laven - 2011-05-25 15:36

      @Psalm Lets not point fingers into the past. Lets look at the facts. What NO-BULL is saying is that in a small area, his wife has come across THREE _ENGLISH_ teachers who obviously cannot Read and/or Write English properly. How were they allowed to become English teachers ?! Forget about who did what in the past and lets hire and fire people based on their ACTUAL skills or lack thereof. THATS real equality. You know, treating people Equally.

      Psalm - 2011-05-25 16:57

      @ Clean Shaven Laven Your friend, No-Bull, clearly seeks to point fingers at BEE... the common refrain on this forum. Preach to him about pointing fingers. These teachers did not get the necessary skills due to SOME reason... what is it, CSL? Such lack of skills was deemed DESIRABLE for Black schools by the Apartheid regime and it was mainly such teachers that were thrown into Black schools. And these teachers are still in the system. So, why is No-Bull seeking to blame BEE and not his beloved Apartheid regime? Place the blame where it belongs - Bantu education.

      mike881 - 2011-05-25 22:21

      @ Psalm. So you are saying that the 3 English teachers poor grasp of the Queens language is due to the previous government. I put it to you that it is because of the total ineptness of the current regime. The ANC has been in power for the past 17 extremely long years, raking in year by year record amounts of revenue. Yet they still cannot provide decent trained (or re-trained) teachers. Sure they have implemented upgrading courses - but those in themselves have proven to be a farce. The bottom line is that our children today are not getting a proper education from the government, (which explains the boom of private schools). This is just not acceptable! The only way for a country to grow and prosper is through education.

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 09:20

      @ mike881 You should read my comment before responding ignorantly. Is it your claim that the bulk of the Black teachers (many of whom have over 20 years experience) were trained in the past 17 years? The bottom line is that Whites love to pretend that their beloved Apartheid regime did not introduce Bantu education with the express intention of provide mediocre teachers to Black schools and providing poor education to Blacks. Go learn your history, then come respond to me. 17 years is insufficient time to rid the system of Bantu trained teachers - so please save your speech.... Where was White concern for "proper education" for all during Apartheid and during Bantu education? Nowhere... "Proper education for all" was and has always been a Black vision in SA. Bantu education was the White vision and legacy, and we still have to bear effects.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 11:48

      Irrespective of what any of you believe about "NEW REGIME/OLD REGIMES" it is unacceptable that there are below par teachers. If they cannot speak a language then they should not be teaching it. After 10 years out of school I went back and studied again 2 years ago while I worked full time 8 to 5... Any teacher trained under ANY "system" should be forced to first be made to become competent before they're released into the work place... It's easy to study again... THERE IS NO EXCUSE!!! @Psalm would you accept the excuse that a driver who killed your family in a traffic accident, that was clearly a result of driver failure, had been allowed on the road by the authorities because they'd been "educated" under a below par system (past or present) on how to drive but they were clearly still incompetent? Would you accept that it was just one of those things and there was always going to be a "transition" period and your family was just the collateral damage?! Our kids of today, every race of kids, deserve the best education... If these teachers have been in the system for 20 years teaching then they should have been able to educate themselves simply through trial and error alone... It takes the average person 12 years to get through school, that leaves another 5 years from "democracy" for people to have become qualified to teach, the time line has in reality been a little longer. It is therefore not possible that there aren't enough QUALIFIED teachers to full these positions!

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 12:47

      @ Electronic Cemetery Your pathetic attemptic at excusing your beloved Apartheid regime falls short. There was no Bantu driver's tests. There was, however, Bantu education. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR EXCUSING YOUR BELOVED APARTHEID BANTU EDUCATION. Trying to downplay its current effects is pointless. 17 years is not enough to rid the system of the badly qualified Bantu educated teachers that your regime happily foisted on Blacks. No amount of fictional claims and handwringing to make excuses for your regime is going to change the adverse impact it has wrought on our education system.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 13:03

      @Psalm You're truly blinkered, I pity you! 17 years IS enough because NEW qualified teachers of younger age and ANY race Black/White/Coloured/Indian could be given these jobs instead of under-qualified people from a past system who are handing on their below par education to the current generation! Can you not put your personal hatred aside and just consider what would be best for the kids of today? Or should we continue to handicap future generations to prove a point? The fact you cannot see the sticks for the trees is sad! All you want to see is the past and this is why you will always battle to progress! And by you I mean YOU personally I'm not referring to any group of people! I can only hope that for your sake you one day see things from the perspective of a neutral!!!! You're killing your joy by being so full of resent, is it so hard to let go of the past?

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 13:22

      @Psalm, for the record I do not and have never "loved" anything about the apartheid... That is your presumption! For me to disagree with policies and happenings of today does not mean that I condone or campaign for past policies to be re-implemented, I actually am looking for an alternative to the current misgivings! There are more choices in the world than polar opposites! You seem to think that if its not apartheid it MUST be the current situation which is a naive way of looking at things... And I refer to many of your postings across this forum! It shows your lack of lateral thinking and problem solving skills! Again I refer to you and not any group of people!

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 15:01

      @ Electronic Cemetery You comment proves that you will go to any lengths to makes excuses for the Apartheid regime, despite your protestations to the contrary. You also prove that you lack an appreciation of the sheer scale of the challenge. If you had even BOTHERED to read my comment to your friend, No-Bull, you would have actually learnt that the Government has been taking steps to undo the damage inflicted by the Apartheid regime. But in YOUR fantasy world, the teachers who graduated in the past 17 years, could not have been taught by Bantu educated teachers. In your fantasy world, the Government should have fired ALL Black teachers in 1994 and left Black schools without any teachers, never mind Bantu trained ones. In your imaginary world, Black people who point out the obvious facts have "blinkers"... I mean, how can they not agree with your imaginary world where 1994 should have miraculously turned Bantu trained teachers into Oxford graduates! Yes, from 1994 the ANC could have miraculously filled Black schools with Oxford graduates. Oh, it gets better in your fantasy, as theseBantu schoosl were miraculously well-equipped through non-existent funds from a near bankrupt government inherited by the ANC from the Apartheid regime. Rural schools attracting Oxford graduates! But, don't worry, my friend, you are merely a product of your priviledged circle that has never attended a Bantu school and knows nothing about these realities.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 15:32

      @Psalm, It's sad how you only appreciate your own opinion without considering another. In YOUR "fantasy world" ALL black teachers are below par and ALL were educated in the BANTU education system... When in reality there are VERY qualified black teachers out there who could use these jobs. In your Fantasy world there hasn't been a democracy for 17 years already and you are being oppressed by other people's opinions! Or am I misreading your comments?? You discredit those that HAVE tried hard and HAVE qualified with the correct education since 1994, you simply expect that all people of colour are below par and therefore condone the fact that these teachers produced by the so called BANTU education system are perfectly capable of teaching the children of today!? Like I said, does the state continue to employ these unqualified (BY NEW SOUTH AFRICAN STANDARDS) teachers to do a job that young qualified teachers could do instead just to prove a point? Do you really want to handicap this generation of kids with poor education? Why allow these BANTU educated teachers to continue "teaching"? Are you that selfish that you'll let your own pride stand in the way of the development of a better educated "next generation"? Or is it that you realize that if these children are educated well then they'll be able to make their own life choices and most likely put people living in the past like you out of work too easily... You look at the world from your perspective only it's sad!

      mike881 - 2011-05-26 15:42

      @ Psalm. I do not accept the excuse of the past. I am more worried about the education that our children are getting NOW and am not interested in excuses for under-par education. A correction to your earlier rant - the spoken slogan of the liberation movement before the end of apartheid was "liberation before education" thus schools were burnt down, teaching disrupted and kids generally used as pawns. That was then (in the past), This is now (the future)and all of SA should demand a decent, equal education for our children now. After all they are the future of this country.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 16:02

      @Psalm, Another thing for the record is that I made NO excuse or justification of or for the apartheid regime... I do not need to as it is not my cause to defend! I don't know how many times I'll have to tell you that I was not part of the apartheid for you to understand it... Maybe you were BANTU educated and do not understand plain English! But you'll accuse me of that being my fault (you not understanding English that is) when BANTU education in fact was repealed in 1979, before I was born! Your narrow-minded view on this matter highlights a total lack of ability to progress from the past! Open your mind if you actually want to improve yourself and this country. SA doesn't need your kind(people living in the past)! If in a Democracy people of 18 years and over can only vote then it must be understood that politically speaking according to the referendum ending apartheid in 1992 "White South Africa", as you call white people, born from at least 1974 in the majority were against apartheid. That means that any person 37 years and younger of white decent from South Africa in the overwhelming majority chose to end apartheid... Why do you hold such an extremely large chip on your shoulder about apartheid against white people in general? You state the same point over and over in a different way... A strong sign of insanity is to do the same thing over and over the same way and expect a different result!

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 16:31

      @ Electronic Cemetery Apart from your comment that there are some Black teachers who have proper qualifications (which is correct), the rest of your claims are well... 1. if there is a surplus of qualified teachers available out there, clearly only you know about it - not Dept of Education or experts; 2. I personally have attended graduations of teachers who have received ANC Government assistance in upgrading. Again, while you seem to speak from assumptions, I speak from facts; 3. you think that it is just and fair to FIRE Bantu trained teachers who were VICTIMS of Bantu education themselves? They did not ask to be discriminated against. What kind of a solution is that? I really can't take you seriously; 4. as for your claim that I do not appreciate opinions other than my own... Wrong. It is merely your opinions (and other bizarre ones commonly found here) that I do not appreciate, as they evidence a lack of appreciation of facts and reality. Or maybe it is simply because I "lack lateral thinking and problem solving skills" (as you claim), for if had such skills I would appreciate your "superior" comments; 5. my own "pride" in the way of a good education... How? I am not even involved in the Dept of Education. Why would it care about my "pride"? Why would want to prevent any Black person from succeeding? Why would I fear their success when I EXPECT Blacks to excel? Honestly, Blacks and Whites are WORLDS apart in appreciating Apartheid's impact.

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 16:38

      @ mike881 You're White. I do not imagine you appreciating the adverse impact of Apartheid. And correction to you. While the slogan existed, it was still Black school kids who protested against Bantu education. It was Black kids and teachers who protested the imposition of an oppressor's language (Afrikaans). It was the Black liberation movement that protested Bantu education. It was easy to say "liberation first" as Bantu education was no education. If you want a prosperous future, you better address the past. The Jews still expect Europeans today address the holocaust. You don't just pretend the past did not happen or try to downplay crimes against humanity (i.e. Apartheid) because you seek to absolve oppressors.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 16:43

      @Psalm, Your claims are hearsay! You claim to have "attended" these graduations when you have nothing to do with the department of education or personally with teachers? So what made you attend these graduations? While I am not saying there were no graduations of this sort I call rubbish on your claims of attendance! I never once told your or insinuated that my opinion was "superior" in fact I have never used that word on these forums once... It's your chip on your shoulder talking I suspect! Another thing I never said was to fire the under-qualified teachers that were products of the BANTU education system I actually stated that "any teacher trained under ANY "system" should be forced to first be made to become competent before they're released into the work place" You assumed that I called for them to be fired... I'm picking up a pattern here... You assume alot and call it fact...! Hypocritical? I think so! Another thing that is questionable is the source of your information regarding the number of qualified teachers "various heads of department"? Come on... You speak as though you sit in during parliamentary meetings and as though you're personal friends with people within government when actually you're just a guess professor who's trying yourself to sound like YOU HAVE A SUPERIOR OPINION to everyone else! You're a disgrace to the name you use here on these forums, the PSALMS were Biblical text for the glory of GOD your words are only hateful and tainted!

      Sven - 2011-05-26 17:02

      @psalm, why was it the responsibility of the "Whites" to educate the "Blacks". Please explain why the "Blacks" of Africa were unable to educate themselves.

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 17:11

      @ Electronic Cemetery You seem to be labouring under the impression that I care what YOU think of me. My dear, let me correct you. I don't. I do not give a hoot when a person like you claims I have a "chip on my shoulder" (especially when such a person casually claims that I can't think). So clearly, if you claim I can't think, you imply that you are superior, as you assume that you can think. No biggie there. So, don't act all indignant because I have called you out regarding your superiority complex. Furthermore, there is nothing hateful in pointing out the obvious. Blacks and Whites are WORLDS apart in their grasp of Apartheid's impact. In case you missed the newflash, Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Civilised people do not take it and its impact on the oppressed lightly. Going by your logic, Jews are so "hateful" in calling out Nazis. So hateful in drawing attention to the horrors of the holocaust and their effects on Jews. I applaude the Jews and may they never listen to your kind. Also, I did not start this conversation with you. It was you who took the liberty of interjecting in a discussion you know nothing about and throwing around your assumptions and insinuations. And lastly, I was INVITED to the graduation ceremony. I actually know some people in the Dept of Education, you know. I've actually talked to officials in the Department.

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 17:19

      @ Sven It is not their responsbility. By the same token, they were not invited here. So, what exactly is your point?

      Tiltonred - 2011-05-26 17:30

      @Psalm....What is this about Bantu education not being on par? My family were teachers and taught in your so-called Bantu schools. All of them had to go through the same yearly inspection than all the so-called white schools. They had to keep book of every lesson, every test, ect. All of them had to have decent qualifications. And what about leaders like Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Jonathan Jansen? They all came through your Bantu education system. Don't be such a pilik!

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 17:50

      @ Tiltonred Clearly Thabo Mbeki and the rest of the ANC are a bunch of idiots who did not know that there was no difference between White education and Bantu education. Clearly the ANC opposed an imaginary education system they called Bantu education. Clearly you are the most knowlegeable one here. More informed than historians and educators who pointed out the inferiority of Bantu education. Clearly Mandela's letter against Bantu education was based on fiction. The 1955 Bantu education boycott was all imaginary. The Bantu Education Act never existed. Chris Hani's objections to Bantu education were all misplaced as Bantu education was "on par" with White education. You should share your objections to the constant defamation of Bantu education with the ANC and should inform Thabo Mbeki and co. that they had no reason to speak out against Bantu education as it was "on par" with White education. Good luck.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 17:51

      @Psalm, I pity your kind really I do, you have an argument for most things but fight to BE SEEN AS RIGHT instead of trying to just BE FAIR! You assume to know all when you know little. The Jewish community as a whole did not "call out" The German community as a whole regarding the Holocaust... Individuals call out governments to assist them and individuals are tried for crimes against humanity... Not an entire population of the country! You threw in apartheid information into this "discussion" when we were talking about education TODAY and not some regime that is dead and buried! You also mention I have a Superiority complex? You cannot be complexed by feeling superior only inferior such as your complex of inferiority you suffer from! The fact that this forum is public domain mean I WAS invited here as was Sven... Unfortunately you seem not to know much about today's constitution in South Africa or the meaning of PUBLIC forum... By the way who are you referring to when saying "they were not invited here"? Are you referring to White people? The snarling ugly face of racism reveals itself in you... None of us were invited here... Do you think the Koi San people invited other African tribes to South Africa in the hopes of being totally displaced and absorbed? Do you assume they couldn't figure out how best to use their GOD GIVEN land? So lets not even talk about who was invited here! You seem to know how to read about history... How about you search for FIRST PEOPLE IN S.A?

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 18:01

      Oh and by the way Psalm, I know you don't care about my opinion... As I do not care about yours... My opinion however is not wasted as yours is, because the majority of people reading these forums either already know or are in the process of finding out for themselves that the failures in South Africa today are attributed to your ANC Government not the dead and buried past regime... You blindly defend a bunch of scaly wags that are defrauding the entire population daily, that makes you as accountable as them! You're probably one of them, you say "I was invited to ANC funded graduation parties"... yeah right! Paid to go is more like it! You disgust me, you're racist to the core! But that shouldn't offend you because my opinion means nothing to you.

      Tiltonred - 2011-05-26 18:02

      @Psalm....and clearly it was the white man that shouted: LIBERATION BEFORE EDUCATION! Talking about shooting oneself in the foot there! Why not rather shout: From Education to Freedom? Instead you busy yourself with blaming everyone else. Why not blame the so-called leaders of then who started that stupid slogan? It is them that has caused a huge loss to society by leaving a lot of people without basic live skills like ready and writing! Alas, all these leaders that got their education in the Bantu education system still managed to go on and study at University. Their qualifications still got recognised. It is the same as the old teasing we had that the Matric finals in the Western Cape was more difficult and tricky than those in the old Transvaal. Again...stop being such a pillik!

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 18:37

      @ Tiltonred My response: 1. Please read my comments to Mike881. 2. Please do not forget to share your superior knowledge on Bantu education with the ANC. I am sure they will appreciate it.

      Psalm - 2011-05-26 19:49

      @ Electronic Cemetery You continue to insist on telling me what you think of me. I repeat. Save it. I really do not care for your opinion of me. As for your constant assumptions about! As for what I do and who invites me where and for what purpose - hardly your business. You question my knowledge of the SA Constitution. Shame... Don't even go there. You claim that I said that I was invited to "ANC funded graduation parties"... Please provide evidence for this fictitious claim of yours. Is this your lateral thinking in action? There's a difference between discussing Apartheid and defending "scaly wags" (your phrase), but maybe your lateral thinking doesn't realise this. There's a reason why I have zero appreciation for your comments. I find nothing of value in them. As I have said previously, perhaps it is all due to my lack of "lateral thinking and problem solving skills" (as you so generously pointed out). As you can think and you believe that I cannot think, why bother addressing me? Go find lateral thinkers here who will agree with you and appreciate your opinions. I really don't. You whine about my comment to Sven and bring your issues into that. You go on about this being a public forum- so what? I was still not addressing you. Hence, you have no reason to whine about me discussing Apartheid with others. Furthermore, if you did not wish to wade into Apartheid, why on earth did you enter a conversation thread that mentions Apartheid? Goodness...

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-27 10:02

      @Psalm, The only shame is you. And for your information this thread was not discussing apartheid it was discussing education issues maybe you should read through the thread again and the article too. This perception that you have that everything is an apartheid issue just shows your tunnel vision on the issue, it must eat at you every day!? Again, I re-iterate I know that you do not hold my opinion in high regard how could you? You disagree with me simply because of what I am, and assume that I could know nothing about the issues because of that... It's funny how you never seem to address questioning of the credentials of your arguments or yourself. You raise new issues to argue instead to avoid answering these questions...? Sometimes even exuding an air of indignation at being questioned when you have no answer. Ironically these issues you raise always end up at the same argument... apartheid! You need to answer a question for everyone on these forums... Who is liable to pay the price for the apartheid in your opinion? I've asked for your opinion this time around... Hopefully I get some kind of reasonable answer from you. I also am a little confused why you intimate in your post that I myself should not question your knowledge of the constitution? And in a round about way your understanding of the term "public forum" basically it's my choice to say or defend what and who I please. So if you're talking your rubbish to me or another commentator on an issue I will comment!

      NO-BULL - 2011-06-13 14:23

      Finally the 'conversation' ends. Jeeeezuz! Electric was right, I was saying that the kids are going to grow up to be idiots if they are taught by idiots. Appoint subjects to teachers who can teach the subject or else what's the point. 17 additional years is long enough to learn the difference between: "What should I enter in this field?" and "What I must put here?" My great great grandaddy was a nasty man, that is why today's teachers are too lazy to do a correspondence course via Intec, citing "yeah but, the 'white man' who died before I was born are to blame for why I can't study through the mail". Idiots can't teach future leaders to be any smarter than idiots. If they want to become intelligent they will have to learn their intelligence on their own after the idiots are done with them. That was my point! But reading all this nonsense by Psalm I have come to the conclusion that he is actually Malema's brother. You can say anything you want to him and if the truth only vaguely begins to sound contrary to what HE holds to be the truth, out come the: "I don't know about that. All I know is BANTU education is to blame for everything that has gone wrong in the world since BANTU education ceased and it will forever more remain the cause for any problem that ever arises". For a guy who seems to have some reason, why in the world would you continue to try and reason with a brother of the dumbest man alive?

  • Tamara - 2011-05-25 07:56

    Yeesh. Political brutality? South Africa? Surely not?

  • sefeddt - 2011-05-25 07:56

    Are the ANCYL/COSAS going to condemn this incident, somehow i think not.

      wattalotokak - 2011-05-25 08:08

      Malema: "that kid was a Bastard Agent of the demonic DA devil party" BWAHAHAHA! These ANC bastards know no boundaries...

      KomboKitten - 2011-05-25 10:19

      condemning it means NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! they condemn stuff all the time! its all hot air!!!! DOWN WITH THE ANC!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Neo - 2011-05-25 08:01

    They are being beaten and brainwashed from small not to touch any other party accept ANC

      p123 - 2011-05-25 13:21

      ZANU-PF are teaching them well!!!

      AJ - 2011-05-25 13:45

      MPLA in Angola, KANU in Kenya, ZANU in Zimbabwe - all followed the same approach - with the same results for the vast majority of the population (poverty) and the same results for the small percentage of politically connected (extreme wealth).

  • Welleducated - 2011-05-25 08:03

    This is an ANC racist teachers.

  • Mark - 2011-05-25 08:09

    If convicted, this... miscreant should be stripped of its job and blacklisted from teaching children again. This thing's actions have sent the message to the students that witnessed the event that 'might makes right'; the very antithesis of democracy.

  • Pencilgraffiti - 2011-05-25 08:09

    If this is what happened the teacher shouyld be fired immediately... and R1000 bail WTF?! Why not R10 000 for beating a child?

      Spoofed - 2011-05-25 10:14

      because this is south africa my friend.. where the criminals get treated like gods and the sheep follow them blindly

      meindert - 2011-05-26 10:24

      Because bail is not a fine, The bail amount should prevent the suspect form fleeing the country.

  • Flinger - 2011-05-25 08:10

    Coward, if i were the parent i would hunt this wanker down!

  • wombatingloves - 2011-05-25 08:17

    The big news is she's a teeetcha! Now we know why our bleck education is in crisis. Not only is this behaviour normal with a common thug, but hey teeetcha "leave us kids alone"! (Pink Floyd)

      Clean Shaven Laven - 2011-05-25 15:41

      Well put, with the Pink Floyd reference. Because of people like this teacher, kids are turning out the same. "We don't need no education." All in all, he/she is just another pr1ck in the wall....

  • Honeybabe - 2011-05-25 08:18

    Yeah a 30 something bullying a 9 year old, yeah, i bet she feels good about herself ( Moron). What happened to women seen as mothers, care-givers, and all that makes you wanna snuggle on their erm erm erm, what happened hee? And why did they give her bail? so that she can bully him more? SA Justice? They should suspend her without pay, so that she can feel the pinch of been a bully

      Wizard101 - 2011-05-25 08:42

      She will be on "special leave" with full pay just like the drunk judge

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 14:34

      And the drug smuggling minister of security's wife... getting paid while chilling at home... Found guilty but not in jail...

  • ANNON - 2011-05-25 08:18

    That's really cruel for a crown up to hit a child like that. What SADTU has to say? They were confident about elections what now?

      Wizard101 - 2011-05-25 08:41

      They will do nothing

  • manfred - 2011-05-25 08:20

    i get the idea that most people think this teacher was a man, but looking at the name i believe it is a woman, which makes it even worse. just indicates that even the anc women are not ladies but rather a violent bunch of child beaters

      THH - 2011-05-25 08:44

      One of those unisex names but would like to think that it is a MAN so I can continue imagining what I would Do to the tonsil.

      The prophet - 2011-05-25 08:44

      @ Manfred- where does it say this woman belongs to the ANC? She could be an IFP, NFP, FF+, or any other party.. But you just assumed she's an ANC member. why?

      whatashame - 2011-05-25 09:02

      @ Manfred They accept Winnie as a hero despite her involvement in Stompie's murder, so they won't take this one too seriously. He didn't die so what's the problem. Sooooooooooooo sad. Soon it will be the necklaces back again but I will stick with Faku's idea of driving me into the sea. I'll rather take my chances with the swimming.

      BIG.G - 2011-05-25 09:14

      Bear in mind that they have a role model in Winnie!!!!

      manfred - 2011-05-25 09:53

      @prophet if you have kept an eye on the news as of late you will notice it has only been the anc who have on a almost daily basis lashed out at the da in some form or other. sorry for jumping to conclussions but it seemed the obvious answer in this case.

      Ben - 2011-05-25 13:26

      @ The Prophet. Simply mathematics tell me that this was an ANC supporter. Firstly we can conclude that it was not a DA supporter, because it is illogical for a DA supporter to act like this because the poster was a DA poster. So, deduct the DA's national support base of 24% from a 100, which leaves 76%. Of this the ANC got 63% and the other parties got 13%. Therefore the chances that this was an ANC supporter is 63/76x100=83%, the chances that it was a supporter of the minority parties 13/76x100=17% and the chance that it was a DA supporter 0% (due to it being illogical that a DA supporter would attack it's own poster bearers).

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-25 08:20

    This 9 year old should be the poster boy for the DA... If this is the attitude from a 'teacher', then we are "diep in die moeilikheid"...

  • Stella - 2011-05-25 08:21

    OMG what next

  • Jannie Swem - 2011-05-25 08:23

    Sickening, and for Kolobe, you epitomise the black racist scum that africa is infested with. Neo-African Socailism puke. Go and learn how a country should be run somewhere in one the 1st world states. before you do that, show me one african country that is 1st world....

  • lacisnesnon - 2011-05-25 08:24

    erm, grade 1...9 years old???????????? huh?

      Wizard101 - 2011-05-25 08:38

      Better than 21 in grade 1

      Nicholas - 2011-05-25 08:49

      hey lets be proud that he is atleast trying instead of being a typical PDI

      LGVS - 2011-05-25 08:52

      Precisely. Unteachable.

      mjvandersandt - 2011-05-25 09:04

      Great attention to detail there I would say.

      ex-pat - 2011-05-25 19:07

      My daughter was in grade 4 when she was nine...

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-26 14:41

      Why are you people having a go at the child? HE IS THE VICTIM!!!! Do you even consider that the child could have had a learning disability or been very sick and missed a year of school? Or the information about the grade and age of the child might be flawed?

  • Alpha - 2011-05-25 08:25

    This is the ANCs idea of democracy. If you don't vote for/support us we will kill you and your family. Its the Africa way!!!!

      p123 - 2011-05-25 13:22


  • Alpha - 2011-05-25 08:29

    That will teach him to not vote for the ANC!!!!

  • MadeInSA - 2011-05-25 08:31

    So much for democracy. I hope that man is one of the millions who will suffer under the ANC rule.

      Made_In_SA - 2011-05-25 09:05

      MadeInSA you might wish to reconsider your name mate, I have copy rights on it! lol

  • patch - 2011-05-25 08:31

    He was a teacher? Bloody savage.

  • patch - 2011-05-25 08:32

    Can you imagine the furore had a white teacher clipped a black kid? Ju-ju would be having a massive fannywobble...

      Jynxd - 2011-05-25 11:12

      So opening his mouth then?

  • Bronson - 2011-05-25 08:34

    ...that will teach him! How dare he vote for the DA! haha

      Neil - 2011-05-25 23:19

      You really are pathetic

  • LGVS - 2011-05-25 08:37

    Now that is nice ANC mentality!!!!

  • wgibsonsa - 2011-05-25 08:37

    This is the tolerance shown by the anc and their supporters. I would love to see what would happen should the anc ever lose an election. They know nothing except being a bunch of savages.

  • Pikes - 2011-05-25 08:38

    Typical ANC supporter... Brainless...

  • The prophet - 2011-05-25 08:39

    Although this act by this ignorant teacher should be condemned, but what the hell are 9 year olds doing talking politics in the 1st place.When i was nine, i didn't even think about politics and race.My only interest was playing games. The world has changed.

      Mark - 2011-05-25 08:49

      And who are you to dictate to society how children should play? People of all ages should be able to do whatever they like to bring themselves joy; the only limit being that their actions must not bring harm to others' life, limb or property.

      PikeLee - 2011-05-25 09:00

      Prophet, they have no idea what politics are. They just mimic what they see other people do and what they see on tv. Just because I played with a pretend cowboy gun when I was 9 didn't make me Billy the Kid.

      sefeddt - 2011-05-25 09:01

      Did you miss all the pics showing toddlers wearing ANC T shirts and holding ANC flags in the run up to the elections. When Malema refused a debate with Lindiwe Mazibuko calling her a tea girl he said the following "I was born into politics... from 9-years-old, she wasn't," perhaps Malema is the exception to the norm.

      BIG.G - 2011-05-25 09:19

      Did you notice the fact that the children were described as being grade ones!!?? Our education system is a shambles!

  • Lab-Rat - 2011-05-25 08:40

    So very typical of an anc supporter!

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  • LuCypher - 2011-05-25 08:44

    The teacher is a female, nogal. (Ruby) Nice and caring . . .

  • Zeek - 2011-05-25 08:47

    Well it is a good sign for the future. The very small of us knows what is better for the country. 2019 there will be a major political shift in South Africa. ANC have been wearing out the pleasure of ruling and milking the cow to death. The little man will be almost 18 in two elections from now. Lets hope this day stays in his memory.

  • IceMan - 2011-05-25 08:48

    has she been suspended from school or will the "incompetent" ANC government give / place her in a better higher position for she has shown them her loyalty.

  • World Traveler - 2011-05-25 08:50

    Give the boy a lollypop! DA Youth League are on the march!

  • ZipZap - 2011-05-25 08:52

    anc cronies... tsk tsk...

  • Pieter - 2011-05-25 08:56

    Racism at its purest.

  • Killroy2011 - 2011-05-25 08:56

    Suspend the teacher on full pay for a few years like a drunken judge, once these unfortunates have been identified they can retrained on how to get away with being successfully corrupt and stupid. This could be part of a long term plan called restructuring.

  • Stroller - 2011-05-25 08:57

    Eish! Blame it on the legacy of the Bantu Education policy of the old illegitimate apartheid regime.

  • My Comment - 2011-05-25 09:01

    No wonder we many of us have dikizentashelemazum-phobia! It's dangerous out there.

  • Tracer - 2011-05-25 09:01

    assuming that as a grade 1 he's 6 years old. What teacher in the world would punch a 6 year old???? What human being would punch a 6 year old??? She must be fired and serve jail time as a warning to others. FFS, what on earth does a 6 yo know about voting??? EISH!!!

  • Matt - 2011-05-25 09:02

    Forget about the political aspect. This is a TEACHER who is supposed to be teaching kids - not only is this outright assault, but on a defenceless child!!! We need justice for this poor kid!!!

  • Willem Louw - 2011-05-25 09:05

    This teacher should be locked up - make an example of her. IT's a child for God's sake. And we call know about the truth that comes out of the mouthes of babes... That kid has a right to dignity and to be protected from monsters like this teacher. Knocking a kid to the ground is unacceptable. Please someone - take her license to teach away.

  • richard1967 - 2011-05-25 09:06

    A teacher that is filled with so much hate and intolerance should not be in a position to assault children. The teacher should lose there job. Just think what the teacher is teaching the children. We don't need our children to be taught how to hate and filled with intolerance of one another.

  • mamakalami - 2011-05-25 09:06

    Some teachers still don't get it. Corporal punishment is illegal.