Boy shoots 'bully' at Gauteng high school

2012-11-20 20:55

Johannesburg - An East Rand Grade 11 pupil apparently shot dead a fellow pupil he accused of bullying him on Tuesday, a Gauteng education official said.

Spokesperson Charles Phahlane said a Grade 11 pupil at Phineas Xulu Secondary School in Vosloorus, East Rand, brought his mother's firearm to school and shot dead a pupil he accused of bullying him.

He said the pupil's mother was a metro police officer and the boy had used her official firearm to kill his fellow pupil.

"The grade 11 learner is alleged to have been bullied repeatedly by a Grade 10 learner and two other boys, who yesterday afternoon [Monday] allegedly took his cap and cellphone," said Phahlane.

The boy apparently shot dead the Grade 10 pupil when he and his friends confronted him in class on Tuesday.

The department arranged for psycho-social counsellors as well as representatives from faith-based groups to come to the school.

Phahlane said Education MEC Barbara Creecy and Safety Mec Faith Mazibuko would meet to discuss ways to curb school children's access to firearms.

  • mikeangell61 - 2012-11-20 21:01

    He said the pupil's mother was a metro police officer and the boy had used her official firearm to kill his fellow pupil.

      mrp721 - 2012-11-20 21:14

      And your point???? We can read...

      Onke Mdingi - 2012-11-20 21:22

      Morals these days degenerated to such low,low levels because the world denonced faith based education.

      FeebleGastro - 2012-11-20 21:39

      Mrp, I suppose his point is certain people should never be allowed to have firearms. The mentality does not allow it. But PCness dictates otherwise.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-11-20 21:39

      Good for him, the bullying in schools is really bad. I must sound really f..cked up by condoning this behavior but when you must convince your child day after day to go to school while everyone in the house is in tears and your child must weekly go to a psychologist just that a little motherf...cker can bully your child again and again...I think this child did a great job....F...CK ALL SCHOOL BULLIES.

      BulletProof. - 2012-11-20 21:58 See this video.Give them a good lesson and they will stop the bulling, normaly the bulling ones are cowards.

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-11-20 22:15

      You see kobie.nel1 you were coming along nicely and I was going to support you bcos my daughter was bullied as well but then you start with your BS generalising saying BS about a certain group of people and evolution. I suppose the Modimolle monster who shot his stepson has evolved very well for your liking and the way he molested and raped his ex-wife with a certain group who needs 4000 years to eveolve . The same as the bestard who organised a hit on his step-parents his evolution was pretty perfect.

      FeebleGastro - 2012-11-20 22:25

      Zimbob, start learning about exceptions and rules. If you can.

      BulletProof. - 2012-11-20 22:45

      I did see a cat on a corner one day it look defenseless but he decide to have courage and attack he decide that he had to do something he attack everybody that try to corner I'm scratch all of them and run away. So think twice when you corner somebody.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-11-20 22:49

      @ goeie jaarling With you all the way. Life can be very, very unfair - why were the other two bullies not also killed?

      kobie.nel1 - 2012-11-21 08:18

      Todays sci-fi is tomorrows reality, accept in Africa, todays reality is tomorrows sci-fi, and that is a proven fact.

      Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-11-21 08:32

      @Zimbobwe Bra wami you seem surprised. Have you not realised that things on News24 have gotten to a point where racial comments like these are being spouted freely on a daily basis, and seemingly with impunity. Labantu abasifuni, finish and klaar.

      marc.klynhans - 2012-11-21 10:20

      Kobie.nel1 and Goeie.jaarling - I knew a bully in school. After his school years he ended up (with his gang) picking on guys (with their girlfriend, wife, etc.) at shopping centres and beating them almost to death (cowards). Perhaps another one of these was stopped (although I think it's a bit too hectic to kill someone - just let him take an arrow in the knee and give him his own medicine).

      charl.young - 2012-11-21 10:43

      Ok so here's the thing. I am a new father living in a particularly high crime are. I am currently in the process of acquiring my firearm licence. According to the Firearms Control Act if a firearm licence holder's firearm is not on them it should be in a safe and the key to that safe should be under the licence holders control at all times. My question therefore is how the hell did he get a hold of his mother's firearm ( a metro police officer no less ) and secondly what charges are being brought against the negligent firearm licence holder? Its cases like this that make things so much more difficult for responsible firearm licence holders in this country. All because some people cant abide by the laws they are sworn to uphold.

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-11-22 09:17

      Onke Mdingi yes... Atheist rule is the new world rule, and Morals die when God is not taught to our children.

  • mark.lucas.792740 - 2012-11-20 21:04

    R.I.P R.I.P. Bang! Here we go again.

  • NickvanGraan - 2012-11-20 21:11

    I can remember about 20 years ago when one read about kids taking guns to school in America. One asked, can you imagine that ever happening here?! Here we are.

      Digger DS - 2014-02-27 02:11

      Too true, but then again there are a lot of things I could'nt imagine ever happening 20 years ago.....yet here we are!!

  • ppisciotta - 2012-11-20 21:12

    This story speaks of so much wrong on so many levels. Nothing but sorrow for both families and fellow classmates.

  • rory.molyneux - 2012-11-20 21:17

    Place your bets ladies and gentlemen, is it going to be blamed on video games, heavy metal or satanism? When the stark reality is that the dead kid was probably a s***head.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-11-20 21:41

      I fully agree with you, get rid of these any means.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-20 21:42

      You forgot lady Gaga....

      andile.vabasa - 2012-11-20 22:10

      Bullies usually come from a messed up home with problems. A normal kid won't bully someone. Blame the parents I guess.

      jacques.stander - 2012-11-20 22:44

      Agree !!

      kallie.reyneke - 2012-11-21 07:02

      Sorry Rory as always it will be apartheid's fault

  • christopher.collings.9 - 2012-11-20 21:18

    and we thought this only happens is the US?????

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-11-20 21:21

    im not even surprised anymore !!

  • don.frost.581 - 2012-11-20 21:21

    How on earth did the child get hold of his mother, a policewoman's, firearm! Cops lose their firearms on a daily basis yet want us to hand ours in, in case criminal elements get hold of them? I think we must take the firearms away from the police! Marikana etc?

  • TheSingingHorse - 2012-11-20 21:25

    There is our next President

  • adair.cross - 2012-11-20 21:33

    Sad story.

  • marianne.jacobszkapp - 2012-11-20 21:36

    Bullying is something that schools need to address in earnest, everyone reaches breaking point at some stage, and with the culture of violence in our country, this kind of reaction is not that surprising. Both boys were victims of a larger societal crisis.

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-21 11:34

      Yes Marianne I agree.

  • Tiaan Liebenberg - 2012-11-20 21:37

    Wake up principles, teachers, parents. The signs of abuse (and bullying are!) were probably there. How about being involved in children's lives

      marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-11-21 07:37

      Surely a Metro Cop should Know the importance of keeping a gun safely locked away! I feel she too is responsible for a childs death. I DO NOT APPROVE OF BULLIES AT ALL, but children solving problems using guns is also very WRONG!

  • gary.sales.5 - 2012-11-20 21:40

    Never mind that the child took his mothers firearm,the torment he must have suffered at the hands of the bully drove him to do what he did must be taken into consideration.there is too much of this type of thing taking place and nowhere or no one to go to with these problems,and then sometimes the consequences are deadly.

  • Benjamin - 2012-11-20 21:40

    that will teach him

  • george.pito - 2012-11-20 21:46

    Bullying is one thing, What channels were available to handle the problem in the school or at home. Fact is the how on earth is the mother fit to be a cop if the firearm werent locked up or missed to take it to school. So there is no safe in that house and we as firearm owners must have one. Bets please wher do cops keep ther fire arms.

      Thapelo Macheoane - 2012-11-20 22:34

      the teachers sometime become ignorant when they got reports from children about bulliying, secondly i think the mother must be locked up and charged for gross negligecy! where was the safe? for the gun been missing the whole day, where was she?

  • wilana.olivier - 2012-11-20 21:47

    Education & Safety MEC's to meet to discuss children's access to firearms. Should the real problem not be addressed i.e. the bullying, then the children would not need to resort to such drastic measures? I think this child must have gone through a lot to resort to shooting someone.

  • strauss.bornman - 2012-11-20 22:06

    I am proud of this kid for standing up for him self, kids think they can keep on bullying kids like they want to without any reprecustions . A lot of severe bully victims take their own lives instead of addressing the issue, This is a act of self defence and people who don't think so were not the victims of this kind of bullying, this should teach the bully's a lesson.

  • philip.mostert.14 - 2012-11-20 22:13

    Should the mom not have had the gun @ work?

      Thapelo Macheoane - 2012-11-20 22:36

      she must be charged for gross negligency!

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-11-20 22:17

    Firearms sould be left at work. They do not need any more protection than other citizens who are not allowed firearms to protect themselves. Will also stop policemen shooting their wives and children as well as stopping children getting hold of them.

      briana.scott - 2012-11-21 09:44

      Well said.

      lielie.smit - 2012-11-21 12:04

      I totally agree! If I must lock my gun away, why can their's lie around?

  • Artinus Hamunyela Kei - 2012-11-20 22:24

    save weapons all time to your children.

  • rory.thomas.798 - 2012-11-20 22:31

    Hi mom can i borrow your gun i need to sort out something at school....

  • TheRealWitblitz - 2012-11-20 22:35

    Skiet die bliksims.

  • justin.ove - 2012-11-20 22:38

    Although I love reading stories where bullied kids stand up to their tormentors, in no way do I condone the use of a firearm or lethal force. This is a tragedy no matter how you look at it. It is a shame the bullied student was not able to stand up to his bully with something other than a gun.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-11-20 23:03

      Stand up with what? And against THREE of them? Why must law abiding and decent people become sacrifices to the vulgarity of low life forms and a failing (legal) system? Rather turn the tables on them and make them the swift victims.

      justin.ove - 2012-11-21 09:10

      @Crracker, Don't get me wrong, I applaud in principle of standing up to bullies with actions and not just words. One of my favorites is the overweight youth who pile drives his smaller tormentor. However, let's draw a line between standing up to your bullies and killing them with your mother's handgun. Why not use something non-lethal like a cricket bat or brass knuckles or something that would at least neutralize the numbers disadvantage or on a great day give these little brats a good life lesson on why they shouldn't bully? I'm not advocating a bullied kid to stand there and shout something like "You can't harm me because I am a beautiful and unique butterfly!" and proceed to get his teeth kicked in because the bullies don't believe in love and sunshine and puppies. I'd love to have read a story where the bullied kid gave the bullies a bloody lip and two black eyes for their trouble, but none of them should be leaving the school in a body bag.

  • dorette.forrester - 2012-11-20 22:39

    Yip, I've been waiting for this. I know of several children that have committed suicide over bullying. So sad on so many levels - surely schools can do more to intervene?

  • jacques.stander - 2012-11-20 22:43

    Cant say im sad!! Bullies are lowlife f-kers , and needs to be treated that way. !!!

      lorain.maseko - 2012-11-21 07:58

      And they generally become criminals in their adult lives so...

      Luyanda - 2012-11-21 18:15

      I agree 100%. I will never pretend that Im sorry. BULLIES ARE RUBBISH. Period. If I had a gun too I probably would have wiped out the scum who bullied me bcoz they came from a poorer background and not very smart in the head. VUILGOED!!!!

      john.tau.1840 - 2012-11-21 21:35

      and you will find that more often then not,these bullies are reported. At times their parents would even stand by their kids after they(the bully ), denies everything.

  • adrian.boulle - 2012-11-20 22:46

    I'm sorry to say that 90% of all South Africans think that bullying is a big joke! And now that a "bully" has died in the process, because everybody probably told the child to ignore the bully and the problem will go away. I urge everybody to speak up if ever they see someone being bullied whether it be at school or at work.Please join the page below and let's find ways to stop this!!/pages/The-South-African-Anti-Bullying-Forum/410668332289768

      Ivan Harilal - 2012-11-20 23:00

      This a serious matter, there is a mother who is suffering the loss of her son. The mother should be charged here. Guns should be in the safe. The entire education board should be reviewed seriouly, many teacher are not doing their Jobs.

  • Annah Seoahodimo - 2012-11-20 22:54

    its amazing to see what the generation of today are capable of doing God help me not to be like that

  • tiaan.evony - 2012-11-20 23:04

    Phahlane said Education MEC Barbara Creecy and Safety Mec Faith Mazibuko would meet to discuss ways to curb school children's access to firearms. WHAT THE F@#K-his mother was responsible for making sure the weapon was locked away(they call it a safe),wake the f@#k up ppl

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-11-21 00:51

    "Phahlane said Education MEC Barbara Creecy and Safety Mec Faith Mazibuko would meet to discuss ways to curb school children's access to firearms." Perhaps they should do something about the BULLYING!! Although this is shocking story and the child should not have had access to a firearm, think how far he'd been pushed to do what he did. I'm not sure who i'm more sorry for, the bully or the bullied

  • ulandi.potgieter - 2012-11-21 07:12

    what i finding strange is the boy who was killed was in grade 10 and the one who killed him was in grade 11 I'm sorry to say but you can be upset for what I'm saying but I'm sure the grade 11 child could of used his common sense and rather spoke to a teacher or his mother than kill the bully because now he has to sit in jail and his life is now thrown away by this.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-11-21 07:25

      Ulandi, I don't know you but I can guarantee you that you haven't got children that are being bullied at have no idea what these children and their parents go through.

      ulandi.potgieter - 2012-11-21 07:43

      @ goeie.jaarling,I have one child she is 2yrs old and i didn't know that most parents don't listen to their children my word whats wrong with those parents really I'm shocked to hear that.

  • linda.duits - 2012-11-21 07:20

    Frankly, I blame the teachers, why turn a blind eye? Parents teachers and school principals should step up to the plate and LISTEN what the children are saying, bullies are harsh, schools should bring in a no tolerance on bullies. Expell the child who is the bully and klap the parents it all boils down to bad upbringing and morals and standards. I was bullied in school and it was a terrible ordeal.

  • dewalds3 - 2012-11-21 08:32

    If all News24 commentators were to be made judges, this would be a scary world. On the faintest ALLEGATION of bullying or harrasment or racism or invovement in a crime, they are all ready to dish out punishment, even physical execution!!? Come on, people, grow up!

  • georgi.mcguire - 2012-11-21 08:41

    Bullying at school is a huge problem that receives very little attention from the school authorities. There are a number of children that take their own lives because of it and yet those stories don’t seem to be newsworthy. It is so sad that this boy was pushed so far that he took another young life. However his actions have highlighted the problem.

  • michelle.marshall.3158652 - 2012-11-21 08:46

    my seven yr old daughter also took on a bully - she gave him one good snot squirt! sorted no more bully - hell why resort to this - so sad

  • mthambeleni.nekhumbe - 2012-11-21 08:56

    @mike i dont know why they using past tense to define the Mothers job as if she is no longer metro police or am i just not reading it correctly?

  • ulandi.potgieter - 2012-11-21 09:03

    you know when your child or children are small you are dying for them to talk but when they need your help or need you to listen to them you don't.

  • flysouth - 2012-11-21 10:43

    The mother who was so careless with her firearm must be arrested under the FCA of 2000 Act No. 60. The penalty for failing to safeguard a firearm is up to 15 years in jail.

  • maria.roth.589 - 2012-11-21 11:29

    This is a tragedy. Two young people's lives destroyed. One dead and the other a murderer. There is too much aggression countenanced in today's society. Now they allow faith based councilors into the school this is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. Imagine the mother's grief knowing her gun was used to ruin her son's life. Imagine the grief of the mother who has lost her child. It is really time that this society takes the spirit of reconciliation that motivated De Klerk and Mandela and for people to look at the personal issues instead of racist mud slinging. These people have just experienced the greatest trauma of their lives and we should set aside those things that separate us and pull together to stop a repeat of this sort of action. If we are truly shocked by this we should examine our society with sincerity and see what we can do to change current attitudes. If we set aside those things that are hurtful to others and clean up the atmosphere in which we raise our children perhaps these things won't happen.

  • lielie.smit - 2012-11-21 12:03

    How bad was this kid bullied to take a gun and shoot. And none of the teachers ever knew? My moms a teacher at a (sorry) black highschool, and all the teachers know the bullies and trouble makers by name, and they get sorted out. SAd that this kid had to ruin his life to get rid if the bully. And I am sure it happens in all schools, white and pink and purple. There always has to be one who thinks he is Tarzan, and usually the bully actually has no self esteem.

  • olivia.duplessis.1 - 2012-11-21 13:07

    Everybody comments on the murder, that one boy can hurt and abuse another to a point that causes him to murder is what is worrying me. This will happen again, stop the bullies and you will stop the murders.

  • olivia.duplessis.1 - 2012-11-21 13:08

    This happens everywhere look at America. All races are affected.

  • cathy.vanvollenstee - 2012-11-21 14:04

    His mother the Metro Police officer should be charged for being reckless with her weapon!

  • kagiso.sebolai - 2012-11-21 18:08

    He did the right thing......u cant go around bulliying people ul get a bullet in ur head....I cud have done the same its just that the was no cop at home I did not have a gun......

      Winston Whitehead - 2014-02-13 09:00

      kinda feel like that

  • makhandeni - 2012-11-21 19:22

    I see News24 has left some details out. This is bullying accompanied with a negative attitude towards "Shangaans". So in addition to bullying and firearm protection, the government should also adress "xenophobia" towards other South Africans.

  • ft.burhaak - 2012-11-21 20:18

    The bullying must have taken a toll on this boy before he flipped.Bullies take note!

  • Jabulile - 2012-11-22 07:50

    I think the kid was tired of being bullied its an accident that happened because of anger parents should also be involved in their children's lives because they act when its too late this could have been prevented

  • stefan.alberts.77 - 2012-11-22 08:53

    Good for you young man. The bully that he shot had taken the boy's cellphone the previous day. So he was not only a bully who destroyed other kids' self esteem and personal worth, he was also a common criminal and deserved what he got. One less criminal in the world.

  • zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-11-22 11:25

    News24 with half cooked stories. Below is what really drove this boy to shoot and kill and I don't blame him: "On Monday afternoon, a Grade 11 pupil came home angry and humiliated. The 18-year-old was bare-chested and barefoot. His school bag and cellphone were gone. He was in tears as he entered his mother’s home in Vosloorus, Ekurhuleni.He had fallen victim to a gang who intimidated his school, Phineas Xulu Secondary School. They’d chased him after the final bell, pelted him with stones until he stopped and then robbed him of everything except his pants." This was not an act of bullying it was a criminal and the boy had a right to protect/defend himself. The bully can go rot in hell actually I nearly did the same after an older boy bullied my daughter.

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