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Bring motion against Zille - Cosatu

2012-11-21 17:23

Johannesburg - The ANC and opposition parties should table a motion of no confidence in Western Cape Premier Helen Zille, Cosatu said on Wednesday.

"The basis for the motion of no confidence is that the premier had by her own admission known about [an] upcoming protest in the agricultural sector in the Western Cape," Congress of SA Trade Unions provincial secretary Tony Ehrenreich said in a statement.

He said Zille did not call farmers and labour together to deal with the threat and mitigate the risk. This was a dereliction of duty which had led to the deaths of two people, and the loss of millions of rands and investor confidence in the agricultural sector, he said.

Zille said the Democratic Alliance would welcome a debate on Cosatu's proposal.

"That’s fine, Cosatu must get its alliance partner in the Western Cape provincial parliament, the ANC, to propose the motion," Zille said.

"We will debate it at the first opportunity."

Cosatu claimed the premier refused to work with labour on various socio-economic problems in the province, and took sides in the labour dispute between farmworkers and their employers.

Protests about wages and living conditions started in De Doorns at the beginning of November and spread to 15 other towns in the Western Cape.

The protests started with table grape harvesters calling for wages of R150 a day. Most earned between R69 and R75 a day.

Zille left De Doorns after people became rowdy during her walkabout in the protest-hit area earlier this month. She rejected reports at the time that protesters had chased her away.

Cosatu also called for a debate between Ehrenreich and Zille on the "crisis" in agriculture in the Western Cape.

Comments
  • Desilusionada - 2012-11-21 17:30

    And now for something original! Drumrolllllllllllllll Silence....

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-11-21 20:31

      The difference between Zuma and Zille no-confidence is: One is guilty of 80% failure the other of 80% success, the one with the most success is not even the president of the country and does not have incompetence and criminality hanging over her head.

      elgh.elgh - 2012-11-21 20:31

      I also would like to table a motion of no confidence in Cosatu as they are a bunch of useless people with no back bone. Big mouth and no action. They add no value to anything they do or say.

      art5SA - 2012-11-21 20:40

      As I said earlier... just like PRIMARY SCHOOL CHILDREN.... TIT FOR TAT!!! Must seriously P them off that they are NOT IN CONTROL of the W/Cape!!!! ROFLMAO!!!

      amanda.vandenberg.758 - 2012-11-22 08:00

      Cosatu shows the quality of intelligence in the party at the moment- by following Zuma and the ANC blindly. and their ridiculous retaliation to anything that is said about JZ. Any right thinking person should at this stage realize JZ's corrupt and uselessness and how South Africa has has had to pay the price for having him as a leader, is also seen by overseas countries. One if the big reasons for diinvestment.

      CapeIndependence - 2012-11-22 09:01

      We should just secede already, seriously..

      daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-11-22 10:36

      Typical of the ANC. Exacerbate any bad situation, retaliate on any criticism and destroy every possibility for our nation to build a great future.

      heathway.master - 2012-11-22 17:19

      Maybe COSATU would like to explain how Zille was informed of the day, time, and place the farmworkers riots would begin. Sounds to me like the whole uprising was planned by the ANC or its Proxies to destabilise the Western Cape, as they can no longer bear the humiliation of comparison between an ANC governed state, and a DA Governed State. What an absolute bunch of anuses, all of them. They give criticism everywhere, but cannot bear to have criticism levelled at their sewerage farm of corruption.

  • julian.booyens - 2012-11-21 17:32

    Wow! they resorting to tit for tat, rather childish I say but then again if they cant get there own way then they sulk

      kevin.walker.92754 - 2012-11-21 18:07

      I agree, this response from Cosatu is absolutely pathetic!! They sound like a bunch of petulant kids - "if you pull my pig tails I'm going to pull yours - so weh"!! Any tactic to try and steer attention away from the real issues, unbelievable!! If it wasn't so sad and worrying it would be laughable.

  • Gary.desousa7 - 2012-11-21 17:32

    Labour matters of this is a national thing,Zille got hold of the president as the labour minister was and still is overseas in geneva for what?? He the pres said she must deal with ministers not erenrich and his lackies. Talk about a tit for tat thing, the children of the anc still mess in the sandbox.

      art5SA - 2012-11-21 20:41

      In Geneva on a "SHOPPING SPREE"... ANd looking out for a "RETIREMENT HOME" in the South of France!

  • Tshephangsithole - 2012-11-21 17:32

    Are they mad? This guys are acting like little children

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-11-21 17:32

    Gaan spring in die see julle domkop idiote COSATU.

      art5SA - 2012-11-21 20:43

      Pity COSATU is not a POLITICAL PARTY... voted in BY THE PEOPLE... Till then they just a bunch of LOSERS, shouting from the OTHER SIDE OF THE PITCH!!!! What a JOKE!

      bongumusa.hlatshwayo.3 - 2012-11-22 15:29

      how can an idiot racist, who have no direction but to think he or she still need a slave, you have enough slave of mazibukwe dotti memma of palameti, may be one day they will all cross the sea sometimes we may feel sea breez, about these nonsensical racial prejudice, who never apologize for oppression, brutality they ever pose to african.

  • CharlM.za - 2012-11-21 17:34

    and another $hitty idea brought to you by Cosatu the ANC`s partner in crime.

  • Kykweer - 2012-11-21 17:37

    Hahahahahahahaha News24... I sometimes feel like your just trying to troll me, this can't be for real?

      kelebetseng - 2012-11-21 20:07

      I'm still cracking up. This is the most hysterical thing I've read all day! Too, too funny!! My eyes are actually tearing up! Hahaha!

  • Benjamin - 2012-11-21 17:37

    Oh please how childish can you get!!

  • carla.vittori3 - 2012-11-21 17:37

    If COSATU and co hadn't bussed in the thousands of thugs and criminals to wage war on the farms there would not have been an issue to debate.

      art5SA - 2012-11-21 20:46

      Nor lost and burnt out property on those farms.... where they have to return to, now that the strike/protest is over!!! Wonder how crap they must feel when they see the DESTRUCTION THEY CAUSED!! I believe most of them will get laid off when the harvesting ends... I know a couple of farmers whom are calling it a day, when they finish their harvesting!! More un-employment... just keeps gorwing... and growing!!!

      Jeffrey Oliphant - 2013-05-15 17:27

      those people u speak of wu u see as criminals n thugs r our people wu is suffering so plz hav respect for black people

  • sachasea - 2012-11-21 17:38

    Why?!! As someone who lives and works in the Western Cape I can tell you that Premier Helen Zille is doing a superb job of running the province. Far better than it was under the ANC that's for damn sure! We have food, jobs, power, running water, many excellent schools (and textbooks), decent internet infrastructure, top class healthcare and it feels relatively safe walking around most places at night. ANC must stay away from our province. DA will rule WC until Jesus comes (if they keep doing the excellent job that they currently are and keep the voters satisfied) Viva Democratic Alliance Viva!.

      bongumusa.hlatshwayo.3 - 2012-11-22 15:37

      oh what a day dreamer all policies in western cape or from cape to cairo, in changing the world the UN were and are from afrcan national congress, those who think zille is something, no yuor a day dreamer, lost, DA

  • tony.vanniekerk.35 - 2012-11-21 17:38

    Do you have no original ideas?

  • wesselo1 - 2012-11-21 17:39

    Whahahahahahaha idiots, bring it on. Zille has been wanting to debate with the ANC for a long time. Guess who was to afraid (or unable to find someone with a brain) to debate her?

      alwyn.vantonder - 2012-11-21 18:42

      Ja, lately gladdebek Mac only says "no comment"

      art5SA - 2012-11-22 06:31

      Alwyn... Mac Maharaj is the OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT LIAR!!!!

      bongumusa.hlatshwayo.3 - 2012-11-22 15:39

      HO HOOO, HAAA, got somethinh

  • bertus.pretorius.1 - 2012-11-21 17:39

    No Cosatu, YOU should have raised your concerns first BEFORE rampaging like your usual barbaric way.Then all parties could have met and talked. Or did not know what's your members' concern and now want to play the blame game on who should have done what (ala Marikana). The workers are supposedly your members and therefore YOU had the obligation to take it up before your usual break and burn tactics. They are after all your members, since you drove them in with busses and all.

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-11-21 17:39

    Hahahahahahaa alot of material to work with if you are comedian

  • sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-11-21 17:39

    COSATU are Racists and are TRAITORS to South Africa - they should all be audited by SARS - I am pretty sure some interesting things would come up in terms of stashed Rs!

      bongumusa.hlatshwayo.3 - 2012-11-22 15:41

      as a dreamer perhaps you will dream well tomorrow, now it is a disaster suggestion

  • Mary Milne Archibald - 2012-11-21 17:39

    So the best line of defence is attack. Basic salaries are set by the Government , that is the ANC not the DP. The recent strikes in the Western Cape had very little to do with dissatisfaction but a lot to do with destabilising the Western Cape.

  • Paul Mphap - 2012-11-21 17:39

    hahhahaha.........cosatu......aaaaaai.

  • Teuneman - 2012-11-21 17:39

    How childish is this? Lol

  • Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2012-11-21 17:40

    is this a joke or wat from cosatu ? does cosatu and anc expect us to take them serious?

  • Peter - 2012-11-21 17:40

    COSATU' thugs and ANC just can't stand the thought that Zille is doing a good job. The problems which this foolish opportunist Eirenreich raises are problems which were not dealt with when ANC was in power in W.C. Crush the unions!

  • Willie - 2012-11-21 17:40

    Some COSATU members are just idiots they do not even understand labour issues. The responsibility of minimum wages lies with MIN OF LABOUR.To say the premier should be recalled is laughable why this cosatu did not raise this isuue with premier of NORTH WEST

      strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-21 18:07

      Understatement! Some are not idiots.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-21 17:40

    Everyone since the Phoenicians have always said African Time and Timing is the pits. WAY WAY BEHIND. Millenium behind. The ancestors took to selling as many of family and relatives as possible to any passer by. Can we find wrenches and jacks to lever open the gap between the eyebrows and hairline so as to SEE the clock ticking?

  • brian.cotter.585 - 2012-11-21 17:40

    Helen has accepted the debate offer. Now let us have it on TV. The motion was that Helen knew about the upcoming protest, the big but is that the ANC had threatened to make the Wester Cape ungovernable. Was this instigated by the busloads of ANC supporters who came in. Who organised that?

  • alwyn.vantonder - 2012-11-21 17:41

    Can someone please remind the trash managers at COSATU that they are ONLY a worker's union! They're not a proper party! Who cares what the Cosatu trash are saying.. Cosatu is the reason why we have so many problems in this country!

  • stirer.kathray - 2012-11-21 17:42

    what a good idea. That would really show Zuma up. The PROs would heavily outweigh the CONs in debate, and it would show up how well run the Western Province is compared to all the others. I wonder if Zuma, should the ANC be ever so courageous enough to allow it to happen, would be in a position to rake up a single PRO. He's busy raking up so many CONs that his party is even trying to pass laws to prevent us talking about them.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-11-21 17:43

    Ai!!!foeitog erintjie zille will klap you silly with al the facts an figures you CNT even debate with a child.En jy Cosatu!!!! Wat so lekka koek en tee vat met di government you r soooo fooorkup you dnt knw if u cmin or goin

      bongumusa.hlatshwayo.3 - 2012-11-22 15:52

      ahh hay hay wena mampompana uyaphi uphumaphi, liyashona nomgogwana wobandlululo

  • tumi.moetlo1 - 2012-11-21 17:44

    Cosatu again

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-21 17:45

    Bitching about Zille again.....what has the ANC done about it? Always what the DA didn't do...so didn't the ANC do anything for the people that voted for them?!

  • Dennis - 2012-11-21 17:45

    This is such hoot. Typical that a childish reaction is the only thing that idiot can come up with. I say bring it on. I would love to see Zille destroy them in open debate betcha it would turn into a toyi toyi debacle as its the only thing those idiots can do.

  • brasteve.myaluze - 2012-11-21 17:46

    sounds like Cosatu should have tabled a motion of no confidence against the NW premier for failing to do the same, thus resulting in the Marikana massacre. Don't you just hate it when Cosatu are hypocrites? The other time they moaned about 27 schools shutting down in WC but said nothing about the other 2000 odd schools that have been shut down nationally. Or maybe our politicians are just excited about the newly discovered ''motion of no confidence'' phrase.

  • Neil Alberts - 2012-11-21 17:49

    she will kick your ass tony and the big asses of the whole cosatu and anc!!! ZiLLE is the bomb!!! DA Rocks!!! DA cares about SA and not to fill their bank accounts!!!! cosatu are a bunch of whiners, the recent mine strikes have proven it!!!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-21 17:51

    Would love that debate to be live so the whole country can see it. ANC too damn useless and worried that it might expose them

  • rubin.frieslaar - 2012-11-21 17:51

    Give that woman a bells!!!!!!!

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-21 17:51

    Cosatu why keep on promoting this counterfeit party-DA? A fact, DA won't rule the blacks in SA, ask Tony Leon.

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-11-21 18:00

      That's fine, as long as they keep the evil out of the Western Cape.

      Paul Mphap - 2012-11-21 18:13

      Isaac watch the space....as long as zuma is still a president, we are going to vote for DA.....remember all blacks are not as naive as u and other....anc is corrupt & that is a fact....

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-11-21 18:21

      Looking at your votes it's 10 for DA & 2 for cANCer!

      Peter - 2012-11-21 18:22

      Isaac, what makes you think you speak on behalf of all blacks.? You better catch up on your current affairs pal. More will vote for DA in next elections, from all races!

  • rontheogre - 2012-11-21 17:52

    God, it is time this Tony Ehrenreich takes the time to educate himself before shooting his mouth off and confirm that he is a fool. Zille had firstly notified the SAPD(which they now deny, but communications can back this up), and secondly, she may not supersede the authority of the Ministers of Agriculture and Labour, as they had, with input from COSATU (whom Tony Ehrenreich represents) set the minimum wages over which the strikes took place. The idiot, instead of admitting that COSATU and ANC based government had AGAIN failed their members and the SA labour force at large, he now has to copycat the DA. This man would not recognise an original thought if it hit him in the face.

      keithpatkell - 2012-11-21 22:32

      @ Ronald...or if it kicked him in the balls, that is, if he has any!

  • alexcon85 - 2012-11-21 17:52

    I am personally very concerned about this country when all I see are children in the ANC and its alliance partners throwing stones in a glass house. There are very few barely respectable people left in that corrupted organisation. I know of quite a few black people that I've worked with who are done with the ANC and it's corruption. The ANC has outlived its usefulness to South Africans and its becoming more obvious by the day. The DA is the future! Once your eyes are open and you turn to the DA you don't go back to the ANC (for as long as the true vision of Nelson Mandela reigns supreme in the DA's values).

  • thabang.m.segole - 2012-11-21 17:53

    Not surprising how this forum is swift to chastise the ANCs shortcomings at a drop of a hat yet defend every single thing that the DA does. I really do question the objectivity of the majority. If facts put forward by COSATU are indeed correct then HZ must answer since she is the premier of the Western Cape.

      morientes.munez - 2012-11-21 18:46

      @thabang.m.segole cosato can be classed as a terrorist organization, they have no regard for the people they wrongfully brainwash and intimidate the promote the cause of cosato and its leaders. Nobody can ever win from this but the leaders of the terrorists. They are directly responsible for the high crime rate and high unemployment rate in this country. They lead the blind intently and calculated over the cliff, they make poor and desperate people believe they can offer them high salaries for very little work, very well knowing it is impossible.

      keithpatkell - 2012-11-21 22:48

      OBJECTIVITY (impartiality, detachment, independence, neutrality) as opposed to SUBJECTIVITY (bias or prejudice) … do you actually understand the meaning of the word “objectivity” Toobang Seghole, do you? Do not accuse the “majority”, as you verbalize it, of not being objective when it comes to discussing Premier Helen Zille and the success of the Western Cape government, while the “majority” of cANCer voting public in South Africa vote totally subjectively….because they are sheeple and know no better!

  • sbu.kunene.73 - 2012-11-21 17:54

    Eish..........this racism is scary tjoe! People say WC is well-run! Well, maybe Cape Town and other larney places. I went back to Cape Town after tEN YEARS and Gugulethu, Langa, Khayelitsha hasnt changed one bit. so much for DA selective governance

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-21 19:02

      Correct me if I'm wrong....but didn't the ANC run the WC before the DA took over? What improvements did they make in those areas? How many years were the ANC in charge? And still no running water or decent sanitation. Yet they expect overnight results from the DA....

      francois.delange - 2012-11-21 20:05

      Hi Sbu, who were in charge in the WC before the DA? Who is in charge in the rest of SA? Where do you live where it is so good? Nkandla? The only place that improved over the last couple of years...

  • michael.jackwood - 2012-11-21 17:54

    I dont support this suggestion, ANC is a serious organisation and does not play games which are being played by Lindiwe Mazibuko and her partner in hate Terror Lekota in the national parliament.

      michael.jackwood - 2012-11-21 17:58

      But Zille can be removed is this motion is tabled, opposition parties have more numbers in the western cape.

  • sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-11-21 17:56

    They can table Helen Zille's motion of no confidence when they table Zuma's. She'll just blow them out of the water. Don't mess with something that isn't broken..

  • neil.fromearth - 2012-11-21 17:56

    Tony Ehrenreich is a fargin icehole!!!! what an idiot. Still trying to build a squatter camp in Constantia. No friggin idea of economics!!!

  • paul.stanley.5621 - 2012-11-21 17:56

    The thing is, Zille gladly welcomes it and as she says will debate it at the first opportunity, unlike Zuma and the speaker of the house, who is in the back pockets of the ANC anyway, who refuse to do anything about the DA request and have to be taken to court over the matter, wasting further tax payers money. Zille stands up to be counted...rather than the ANC cronies who just count the money they have stolen.

  • paul.cunliffe.315 - 2012-11-21 17:57

    OK, let's get this right...the Labour department set a minimum wage of R68.60 for farmworkers, so they stick to the rule of law. Now they the scapegoats ??? Zille was pelted with stones by the strikers, that's why she left.Tony E is dillusional....a debate with HZ...pleeeeez !! Oh by the way, labour costs for grape farmers sits at 40% of their cost, if they double their wages bill, that would be 80%, you go figure Mr E how competetive they would be on the already very tight world market. You are an ASS Sir, crawl back into your little hole and fathom how you going to build low cost housing on the most expensive real esate in Cape Town. The ANC should be ashamed of having you represent them !!

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-21 19:46

      I second that. Mr E is scum

      keithpatkell - 2012-11-21 23:00

      Paul how can the cANCer be "ashamed" of something like tony e (a minion) when they have something like the zoomer, their "head (shower) honcho to contend with? I believe they are too self effacing to feel any shame!

  • NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-21 17:59

    Bring it on!!! You stupid, stupid fools!

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-21 18:01

    What goes around comes around,this pesticide needs to be brought back down to earth.

      johan.bosman.3766 - 2012-11-21 18:55

      Karabo, so glad you are referring to the anc. Just dont bring them down to earth, but also wipe him off the earth.

      abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-11-21 19:19

      You mean the ANC u rit it's a pesticide cme 2014!!!!we'll use tht deadly thing called democratic vote ANC wnt knw wht hit them.

      bernard.dejager.7 - 2012-11-21 19:31

      I agree, bring Zuma down! Right on brother.

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-21 19:47

      Me too. Zuma just proves that blacks in power can't be trusted

      francois.delange - 2012-11-21 20:02

      So Karabo, why so quiet about the arrest of John Bock and the other ANC councellors in the Northern Cape? Only took a few million from our coffers...

  • wiebrand.herbershausen - 2012-11-21 18:02

    ANC main party can never fight their own fights. They always have to use somebody else to do it. First it was the ANCYL and now Cosatu. Tell Ehrenreich he can get his debate as soon as Zuma agrees to the debate that Zille and Mazibuko has challenged him to.

  • robert.warriner - 2012-11-21 18:04

    And then we wonder why 1/3 of youths (those that would be productive) want to high tail it out of here. Ffs with this bunch of tonsils is there any damn hope! Madiba, Thambo et al ... Is this the land you envisaged. Cry our beloved country ...

  • ntshikovhele - 2012-11-21 18:05

    Cosatu will make us LOL, do they have members in parliament, i thought they were workers represetative, im not sure to whom. Gwede will swirch you off sister Tony and Sdumo

  • thabang.m.segole - 2012-11-21 18:06

    Interesting statement "Bitching about Zille again" "Always what the DA didn't do" Chap, are you being for real? The comments on News24 are an ANC bitch-fest. I'm not an ANC supporter, dont support any party actaully, but all I ask for is objectivity. If the DA, along with its News24 -commenting supporters, are going to dish it, then they must be willing to receive it.

      leila.loupez - 2012-11-21 18:13

      Agreed!

      oistar.tutu.9 - 2012-11-21 19:50

      Thabang, how can you be objective with the manure that eminates out of the ANC and Cosatu. Sorry, bru' no more sympathy for this lot, I am totally, totally realising that there cannot be equality when one side is so base

  • strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-21 18:06

    Strikeback would support this debate on COSATU's proposal. It is allways nice to see them make fools of themself in public. Further Tony Erenreicht should be careful what he wish for, just now Helen Zille takes him up on his proposal then he will be humiliated in public. Anyway, amything to distract one from the actual problem at hand, this is the first motion that was tabled by COPE and then taken further by the DA. How does 2020 sound for the motion on Zille. Then you can also show us all the jobs you created. COSATU - First class destroyer of the economy and wrecker of jobs. Get rid of striking COSATU members now! www.strikeback.co.za