Brutal child murders: 10-year-old suspect

2012-11-16 22:26

Johannesburg - Six boys from a village, including one aged 10, have appeared in a Limpopo court on Friday, charged with rape and the murder of three other children.

The group were arrested on Thursday for the August murder of three siblings: two boys and a girl aged between nine and 12.

The bodies of the three were found bound with shoelaces, said police spokesperson Brigadier Hangwani Mulaudzi.

They had been stoned to death. Bloodied stones, covered by a blanket and tree branches, were found near their bodies.

The girl had been raped.

"The boys are charged with rape and murder, their case has been postponed till Monday," said Mulaudzi.

"Our investigation led to them. It is now up to the court to decide their case," Mulaudzi told AFP, adding that this was the most "violent and heinous" case he had seen involving children.

The boys, who are between the ages of 10 and 14, are being held in a secure location, as required by the provisions of the child Protection Act.

Mulaudzi said police were still investigating if the children had been working with others.

"We have not ruled out that possibility, sadly we had to arrest these children, as much as we sympathise with them. They are suspects in a crime" he said.

  • Lisa Lazarus - 2012-11-16 22:32

    How can you sympathise with the suspects? This was a brutal, savage crime! Rather sympathise for the loss of three young lives taken by savages!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-17 02:20

      You don't need to sympathise, but you can wonder as I do, as to how and why these kids could be so brutal - the only logical reason is that they have seen it first hand. This is not natural behaviour of kids, these kids have seen some seriously bad stuff or been victims of it. I'm not saying we should condone it and that they shouldn't be punished, but my sadness is that they will just be chucked into the criminal system and endure further abuse, and become more abusive. These kids need some serious help from people who care.

      ngaka.sehlola - 2012-11-17 07:16

      I suspect this heinous act isn't @ least mainly of their own making.There has to be a much older person involved here.Mark my words.Let the investigations continue...

      delish7564 - 2012-11-17 07:48

      @Hugh, ever read "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding? Although fiction, it shows clearly how with a breakdown in society humans, particularly children, resort to violence and savagery. We all need boundaries, discipline etc whether we like them or not, otherwise we end up with a situation like this, that is just too horrific to contemplate in a so-called civilized society. Tragic :(

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-17 09:02

      Something akin to this occurred in Liverpool, UK in 1990, where a 2 year old little boy was abducted by two 10 year old boys, and then brutally murdered. The pair were found guilty - making them the youngest convicted murderers in modern English history. They were sentenced to custody until they reached 18 years old. My point is that this sort of thing could happen ANYWHERE! Police suspected that there was a sexual element to the crime, since the little boy's shoes, stockings, trousers and underpants had been removed. The psychiatrist said unequivocally that the boys knew the difference between right and wrong. They had been playing truant from school that day. But where were the parents in all this?

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:11

      @delish7564 "shows clearly how with a breakdown in society humans, particularly children, resort to violence and savagery." Why is society broken ? Its not the kids fault is it ? They are as much victims as you and me ? Damn the man.

  • Khadija Osman - 2012-11-16 22:38

    Arrest their 'parents' too

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 07:11

      On what grounds Khadija?

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-11-17 07:26

      For abdication of parental responsibilities Piet.

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-17 08:30

      Technically then Don Steenkamp's parents would have to have been arrested too for what he did to them ... interesting notion. (I agree Khadija ... I just thought to myself ... 'what irony' ...

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 08:54

      I find it odd that anyone can think the parents should be arrested even when we dont have information that they are linked to the crime. There lots of children who have done a lot wrong things that their parents do not approve of, yet we think they should be arrested just for biological reasons? There is no law that covers that aspect.

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:12

      Neglect or conspiracy to commit ... Someone taught them ?

  • samuel.mphela - 2012-11-16 22:53

    This is so shocking. What in the heck?

  • kholwani.sokulu - 2012-11-16 22:56

    The world is coming to an end.

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:31

      Really , but we've been doing this from the beginning of time ? Muslims want to drop the legal age for marrying children dropped to 9. The same age Muhammad deflowered he child bride ! (sic) Modern xian's actively hate gays , the new witch hunt !?! But when will it end ? With religion and your mind set in place its not going to change... Damn the man.

  • lynda.pitcher.1 - 2012-11-16 22:58

    what is going on with our rural is though they are possessed, this is so disgusting, how do we cope with crimes like this?

      nico.dejongh.90 - 2012-11-17 07:51

      Too many murders in RSA and it's rubbing off on the youth. Kids do what they see and hear, like stoning at mob justice and 'fictitious crime movies' or listening to grownup's stories which they think 'are really happening'. Their imagination gets distorted and they 'act-out' that very scene. Child birth is 'sacred' no more. The blame the adults and those young girls who has no respect for our suffering mother earth.

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:16

      These kids have been abused , more than likely sexually and violently ! They've been broken by society ...

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-11-16 23:02

    no mercy at all for these kids most of killers in our days are the kids im talking that with experiance last month 15 year shoot and kill my cousin for cellphone now the the boy is out of prisson because of his age and on the other side we srtugling to rais up his kids

      collins.ntelele - 2012-11-17 06:19

      At the age of 20,we will be having serial rapists,murderers,let lethal injection be applied on these monsters.And I suspect,an adult is somehow involved here.

  • marina.poniatowska - 2012-11-16 23:07

    Sympathy for these monsters? Really?

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:31

      Sympathy for all life ... Before you judge , find out why they turned out this way ? Maybe they're just victims too ?

  • cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-16 23:18

    I say what I say every time. Nothing 'in a book' will educate this type of delinquency. It's part of a culture .. It's cool to rape your classmates behind the cloakrooms at break time. It's cool to iron old people's faces when you're robbing them. It's cool to shoot little 13 year olds when you're robbing their parent's houses. You want to tell me barbarians can 'unlearn' this behaviour? Not in a million years.

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-16 23:25

    If you measure by urban 'norms', yes, this is heinous. Try imagine being raised by wolves - or all on your own. Most of the societal norms we take for granted are taught, not instinctual.

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-16 23:37

      Well then we have a really big problem, because I most certainly didn't 'learn' it from a book.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-17 00:05

      @cecile.kiley1 - no, you learned behaviour from the day you were born - long before you got the chance to read a book. And, if you have children, you are teaching them every day. But if you were left to raise yourself and have no sane adults around you to bring you up and teach you, the way you behave and react to the world would be very different.

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-17 00:19

      That I get. If I raised myself things would have been different. My question is, can all this behaviour be 'excused' because no one raised these children, and it seems then consequently from the violent and sexually charged crimes in this country, mister wolf, and FOR HOW LONG does one 'excuse' or 'make excuses' for this RUBBISH behaviour, in a country where the masses have 'been in charge' for nearly 20 years, but where education has not made a difference? On the contrary, things have worsened in terms of intensity and frequency of crime ... so yes. At what point in our country would you suggest that this 'trend' of 'unparenting' stop? I was raised by a single mother - she raised 5 of us on her salary, NEVER acted like life owed her one, and when we didn't have much, we DIDN'T steal and kill to get some. So at what point do we stop excusing this terrible trend of behaviour by people in this country? My point is we WON"T see a change. Because if there is no inherent 'sense' of good and bad, and if these people are too obtuse to get the message during some point of their (let's say) 10 years at school in life orientation, they AIN'T going to get it.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 07:05

      I agree with you Cecil, there is just no excuse for crime, not at all. If we accept such excuses, then we might as well not convict people without investigating how they were brought up which will lead to almost no conviction at all. No matter what circumstances one grow up in, one can still chose how to live their lives.

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-17 08:23

      Thank you Piet for your voice of reason in all this. Our country is one where no-one takes the blame for any wrongdoing. And with THAT kind of motto to live by, our kids will grow up blaming their evil deeds on everything by their own delinquent personalities. (I don't mean to generalise - I know all kids are not like this. It's just that this kind of stuff is happening more and more and it horrifies me to the core of my being.)

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 08:45

      I guess we will never see the begining of healing for our sick society as long as no one is willing to admit that we have a problem. This blame game is taking us nowhere. You sometimes get a sense that some people enjoy pointing fingers at other people and whatever they can think of except themselves. Thank you Cecile

  • Barefoot - 2012-11-17 00:51

    this is scary and absolutely heartbreaking, words fail to convey the horror. a 10 year old? please don't make it about race if you are not shocked by this and think it's expected or a normal thing among other people then you are not normal.

      willem.v.hoven - 2012-11-17 01:21

      Yes, do not make it a race issue. Ignore the fact that they are black,

      willem.v.hoven - 2012-11-17 01:29

      Also do not make it a sex issue. Ignore that they are boys. Also do not make it an age issue. Ignore that they are children. Also do not make it a species issue. Ignore that they are HUMAN.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 08:38

      Get real Willem, be reasonable man.

      jody.beggs - 2012-11-18 13:20

      Let's just forget that these kids were created into monster's , why ask questions as to the reason for the violence? Just kill them and move on ... You people are pathetic , I hope your xian and don't feel guilty ... Damn the man.

  • Danette Janse van Rensburg - 2012-11-17 01:18

    Well said Cecile!! In a hundred years from now they are still going to use the same lame pathetic excuses for such behaviour!

  • Whoz.Da.Funkiezt - 2012-11-17 01:21

    my good lord...can things get any worse?

  • lunga.matsikechangu - 2012-11-17 04:32

    Parents should be given powers and authority to displine kids e.g it is the right of a child to have food but it is the responsibility of the child not to waste the food.

      frankflower - 2012-11-17 04:44

      A child has NO rights. It has the PRIVALEGE to be fed, have a roof over its head and to be clothed. The day my child demands rights, I will show it the door and tell it to fend for itself!

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 06:54

      Children have rights too Frank, even of they dont demand them they do have them. What you are saying here is the same as what abusive parents say to their kids, which cant be right.

  • frankflower - 2012-11-17 04:34

    being held in a secure location, as required by\r\nthe provisions of the child Protection Act? Why? Why? Why? Did they not know that they were committing a crime? And don't tell me a 10 year old does not know the difference between right and wrong!!! Bull!!! Children, in my opinion, have way too many rights as it is. If you kill like an aduld, get sentenced like an adult. Uit en gedaan, klaar!!!

  • ronell.germshuys - 2012-11-17 04:35

    10 years old and raping???? When I was 10 years old, I didnt even know how to spell sex, let allone know what it means. What is this world coming to???

      frankflower - 2012-11-17 04:46

      Meeste van ons is geleer van die 10 gebooie en meeste van ons is nie. Dis so maklik soos dit.

  • amanda.terblans - 2012-11-17 05:28

    sympathise with them? me thinks not !! Imagine what the little monsters would be doing in a couple of years put them away for life and stop it happening again , if they are old enough to do the crime they are old enough to do the time , sadly it is the example being set by their elders that is to blame for this, after all their role models do pretty much the same. sympathies should be with the parents of the murdered children not the criminals that killed them .

  • werner.vandeventer - 2012-11-17 06:11

    Tien gebooie het niks hiermee te doen nie, meeste christene kan nie eers al die gebooie op noem sonder om op google te gaan kyk nie.

  • werner.vandeventer - 2012-11-17 06:13

    Its scary to think where this country will be in the next ten years.

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-11-17 06:44

    HANG THEM!!!!!!

  • Happyness - 2012-11-17 06:56

    It was said on the news last night that some of these boys were homeless, so I wonder if they killed HOPING to get caught so they could go jail and at least get a meal? Even so, it is horrible, disgusting, unthinkable what they did and I hope they are severely punished. They knew what they did was wrong otherwise they wouldn't have covered and hid the bodies.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-17 07:03

    Get a grip! If you have ever taken an interest in the outcomes after quick transition of authority in any nation and especially those surrounding us in Africa you will see so many instances of this portrayal of utter loss of reason and humanity in every one! Liberia - still ravaged dangerously close to returning to blood curdling drug induced barbarism. Rwanda - tribal intolerance and sheer savagery largely drug induced over youth as it is spread by heathen neanderthal throwbacks up into Uganda and Congo and Sudan. Moçambique - where the city's were inundated with street children doing even worse than this specific case but not quite as badly as the Durban inner city. Angola - which is just a floodgate of destitution and upheaval with same types of urchins given tons of money to carry this behaviour even into government of late as uncontrollable monsters. Lets not even start to reach further up into our KZN areas - that is just beyond imagination and we have it elected as the highest position in the LAND? Limpopo - and animals etc etc etc........................ IT IS CLOSE TO YOU!!!!!!!!! every day.

      nico.dejongh.90 - 2012-11-17 08:22

      The hunter/killer instinct, especially Africa, together with poverty is one evil concoction of self destruction. Muti and witchcraft etc. (eg.Marikana) adds fuel to a 'sick' society.

  • kabelo.k.monageng - 2012-11-17 07:10

    I think the legislator should consider making amendments with regard to the Child Protection Act.If this crime led to those children as the investigators said then y should they be protected?Yes they're minors and dnt have the mental capacity of grown ups but they commited rape and murder!If they're not arrested simply because they're kids just wait and see what they'll be capable of when they're older

  • andre.krige - 2012-11-17 07:45

    Mshini , without western culture you wouldn't be writing this comment on a forum. Fact.

      Barefoot - 2012-11-17 08:36

      not to defend Mshini he's obviously an idiot. are you saying western culture brought the internet? western culture = science?

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 09:09

      You comment Andre makes me think you and Mshini are actually different sides of the same coin. Good question Barefoot.

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-11-17 08:00

    I feel sorry to parents, you give birth to a child only to find out that you are raising a monster. Let's join together as community and pray for such incidents where the devil is using our children to perform his dirty works. God our Lord guide our children and protect them from the evil spirits ruling our children today.

      piet.motsoeneng - 2012-11-17 08:31

      Spot on Mammudi Amen!

      Shane Prins - 2012-11-17 12:13

      oh ffs, not the devil again!!! where was 'god' when these poor kids died this horrible death? take your head out of your...and grow up!

  • Shane Prins - 2012-11-17 08:03

    theres no way these kids committed these murders without the lead of an adult

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-17 08:52

      Was Jamie Bulger the 3 year old kid in Britain killed by adults? No, but by a 10 and 11 year old. No adult involvement whatsoever.

  • Vashnih Mundroh - 2012-11-17 08:16

    This has got nothing to do with race, this kids are murderer nd must be eliminated, where those cops who shot marikana mine workers, we seriously need them on situation like dis to kill dis kids and run away with murder like dey do now! if u kill my son or daughter den i will hunt u nd kill u!

      Moabi Reggy Maeco - 2012-11-17 09:46

      People, let us not be judgemental before we know all the facts. Stop saying things that u don't know anything about as you heard it on radio, tv or read in newspaper. let's give investigations a chance as we r not even sure if these kids committed the said crime.

  • sydney.nhlapo.3 - 2012-11-17 09:46

    God help us all!!

      Shane Prins - 2012-11-17 12:13

      yep, he sure didn't help these kids now, did he?

  • mzuvukile.maswana - 2012-11-17 09:49

    Who is to be blamed for such heynous crime? Teachers, government, police or politics? Definately not us parents. This is extremely shocking and devastating for me as a South African.

  • nevessuzy - 2012-11-17 09:58

    This is the unfortunate result of a savage culture with no concept of 'family planning'. Common sense, humanity, morals.....non-existent! Even animals living in the wild have more sense than this and care for their young better!!

      Pamela Addison - 2012-11-17 13:32

      well said.

  • lili.passetti - 2012-11-17 11:03

    violence breeds violence, this is awful ....

  • jackie.white.94064 - 2012-11-17 11:29

    So Evil !!

  • phillip.mtshweni.39 - 2012-11-17 12:01

    I am so glad to learn that people do realise that the world is coming to an end. what's your hope? just asking

  • Shane Prins - 2012-11-17 12:11

    umm, this is not the jamie bulger case, and this is not britain...the case should be investigated and the kids interrogated to find out the truth...

      cecile.kiley1 - 2012-11-17 13:06

      I'm fully aware of that, Shane ... and obviously the case will be investigated that the kids interrogated ... are you actually saying that kids in a low-income neighbourhood from broken homes in Britain would have a different agenda than kids in a low-income neighbourhood from broken homes in South Africa? Just trying to understand why on earth you believe these kids committing these sexual acts and murder are any different than the other kids committing rape behind the school cloakrooms at break time, that we hear more and more about? Or do you think they also do it under adult supervision?

  • esther.coetzee.50 - 2012-11-17 14:26

    This and other evil deeds by children we hear so regularly about,are the direct result of the breakdown of discipline and the emphasis on individual freedom (to do whatever a person wants) above the interest of society at large

  • mikaelapace - 2012-11-18 08:48

    This is actually extremely sad nevermind appalling. I urge everyone and anyone to give the Victim Support Network a browse. You can find them on facebook at Its such a great resource available to all south africans to stay on top of current events related to CRIME specifically. Personal stories are shared and everyone can benefit. If you Like them on facebook they will always appear on your newsfeed!

  • mikaelapace - 2012-11-18 08:51

    This is actually extremely sad nevermind appalling. I urge everyone and anyone to give the Victim Support Network a browse. You can find them on facebook at Its such a great resource available to all south africans to stay on top of current events related to CRIME specifically. Personal stories are shared and everyone can benefit. If you Like them on facebook they will always appear on your newsfeed!

  • maria.roth.589 - 2013-01-31 13:05

    This seems to be unnatural there must be more to it than this surely. The authorities must investigate further. This sort of thing must be an escalation of some situation or adults are involved surely. My sympathy to the parents and family of all these children.

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