Cabinet welcomes drop in crime

2011-09-08 13:09

Cape Town - Cabinet has commended Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa and National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele for a downward trend crime statistics.

"However, Cabinet expressed its concern on the violent nature of the criminal activities across the various crime categories," government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi told reporters in Cape Town on Thursday.

He said Cabinet, at its regular Wednesday meeting, also voiced concern over an increase in police killings.

It called on police officers to always wear protective clothing on all call-out assignments.

Cabinet expressed appreciation to various community groupings, including Lead SA, that had been helping the police in their efforts to fight crime, Manyi said.

  • cat8fish - 2011-09-08 13:13


      Spyker May - 2011-09-08 13:28

      I hate to be the one to deliver the ice cold wake-up slap.., In SA, there is a VAAAAAST difference between, a "...drop in crime..." and a 'drop in crime STATISTICS'...

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 13:29

      @oxyngen - TROLL ALERT. ignore the child people

      Vullis - 2011-09-08 13:30


      G.du Plessis - 2011-09-08 14:28

      As a paramedic I personally feel that the crime has dropped over the years. I had nearly nothing to do during the world cup!

      cliffarc - 2011-09-08 19:19

      - Imagine how elated the govt. is going be with the fake matric pass rate at the end of the year. The Anc circus keeps rolling along.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-25 18:16

      Rubbish, I can't stand lies, firstly the minister in charge of all this has been up for fraud. Cele himself. The same guy has a mandate to reduce crime, if he meets the mandate he gets a fat bonus. He was found messing with the stats but still got his bonus. The other point is this, South Africa now have a bill to control what gets out in the media, the prime reason for this is to cover up the crime, corruption, fraud etc. Why? Because the current exposure is hurting the ANC bad, they are going to lose votes, international relationships are breaking, there is media all over the world naming and shaming them. There are more and more ranking sites coming out, comparing countries in terms of economy, corruption etc. South Africa is failing bad at all of it… So what do they do to avoid this, they create the info Bill. Smart, but so evil and the nation will forget about it in a few months.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-25 18:28

      The irony, have a look at the articles next to this one.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2012-01-19 00:40

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-09-08 13:17

    I hope this servea as motivation for police to work harder not as an achievement

  • Castersballs - 2011-09-08 13:19

    Crime stats in SA are more doctored than Shane Warne's face, and are as convincing.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-08 13:23

      Oh yes!!! Now they can all PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK... and SNIGGER under their BREATHS... Truth be told....The way they DOCTORED those figures, they will make a MAFIA BOOK-KEEPER BLUSH!!!! More BBULLSH!T from the LIARS!

      willieman - 2011-09-08 13:25

      How do you doctor murder genius?

      York Hunt - 2011-09-08 13:26

      @Castersballs. ROLFLMAO!

      Tolerant - 2011-09-08 13:40

      I hope the stats could be verified. Some time ago the MRC reported murder rate as +-50% more and Interpol it as double our stats. This should make us think and yes murder stats can be altered, it has been done before.

  • Trueblue - 2011-09-08 13:19

    Of course they would. All the more for them! But then are they using statistics from 2011 or when? The only way to combat crime is to liberalise the economy and encourage people to create their own jobs by giving them incentives, even if this means opening a shop or fast food outlet. But, alack, these small business people will see no reason to join COSATU, as they would not want to strike against themselves. And the COSATU elite won't get any money from them unless by force.

  • kolobe - 2011-09-08 13:21

    "shoot to kill" is working afterall

      Vullis - 2011-09-08 13:28

      it always worked for the better or for the worse. We are on the brink of civil war and trust me it is gonna work then too

      cliffarc - 2011-09-08 19:23

      - Kolobe - criminals or boers ?

  • Buic Unix - 2011-09-08 13:21

    bollocks they just thnking themselves clearly they dont leave in this country coz if they did they would know crime in here is going one way UP like property and they need to start with the biggest crime lords "THE ANC" if they can clean the ANC that would be something to cheer about....

  • Dmitri - 2011-09-08 13:22

    If anyone believes these stats they have their brains behind their balls

      Buic Unix - 2011-09-08 13:23

      dats right

      Vullis - 2011-09-08 13:29

      Negativity, nothing must work in this country?

      Lekabisto - 2011-09-08 13:35

      Bloody Liars, Nice try making themselves look good though, I am just not that gullable.

      sipholess - 2011-09-08 13:48

      Nothing does work in SA.

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-09-08 13:23

    Pat yourselves on the back cabinet, because no one else will. The fact is that the crime stats are still too high and no one in their right mind will want to invest or live here. Knowing that the police are so often involved in crimes is no comfort either.

  • Buic Unix - 2011-09-08 13:23

    if they were doing their job they wouldnt even have time to do stats..if they were doing an excellent job, we would know bcoz we live here, and if they were doing a good job, Julius Malema would be behind bars for murdering South Africa's tax payer's money these stats mean nothing

  • Thelma - 2011-09-08 13:24

    Mr Manyi please be more specific on "violent nature of the criminal activities"...

      Vullis - 2011-09-08 13:29

      go look it up yourself

      Thelma - 2011-09-08 13:48

      @ Vullis - I would call you a retard but that would be insulting a retard!

  • Dr. Zeek - 2011-09-08 13:24

    Yeah right. Crimes aren't reported. Those that are reported to SAPS don't get dockets (don't go to stats). Those that do get dockets don't get investigated. Those that do get investigated don't get solved. Those that get solved don't get prosecuted. Those that get prosecuted don't get sentenced. Those that get sentenced simply escape and start again at the beginning. Ask any friendly policeman whether he believes the stats.

      Lekabisto - 2011-09-08 13:40

      If anything the stats went up, the criminals have even gotten bold and turned the war against the same police who are supposed to be catching them. with that said condolences to the families of the slayed policemen and women, and to the actual police persons who are making a difference keep it up, your efforts are appreciated.

  • Born To Fish - 2011-09-08 13:25

    Now just to get the criminals out of Cabinet....

  • Popit - 2011-09-08 13:27

    Bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - great joke.

  • JacobMoletsane252 - 2011-09-08 13:29

    Uit die blou van onse hemel, Uit die diepte van ons see, Oor ons ewige gebergtes Waar die kranse antwoord gee. Deur ons vêr verlate vlaktes Met die kreun van ossewa. Ruis die stem van ons geliefde, Van ons land Suid-Afrika. Ons sal antwoord op jou roepstem, Ons sal offer wat jy vra: Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe, Ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika. In die murg van ons gebeente, in ons hart en siel en gees, In ons roem op ons verlede, In ons hoop op wat sal wees. In ons wil en werk en wandel, Van ons wieg tot aan ons graf. Deel geen ander land ons liefde, Trek geen ander trou ons af. Vaderland, ons sal die adel Van jou naam met ere dra: Waar en trou as Afrikaners, Kinders van Suid-Afrika. In die songloed van ons somer, in ons winternag se kou, In die lente van ons liefde, in die lanfer van ons rou. By die klink van huw'liksklokkies, by die kluit-klap op die kis. Streel jou stem ons nooit verniet nie, Weet jy waar jou kinders is. Op jou roep sê ons nooit née nie, Sê ons altyd, altyd ja: Om te lewe, om te sterwe Ja, ons kom, Suid-Afrika. Op U Almag vas vertrouend het ons vadere gebou: Skenk ook ons die krag, o Here! Om te handhaaf en te hou. Dat die erwe van ons vadere Vir ons kinders erwe bly: Knegte van die Allerhoogste, Teen die hele wêreld vry. Soos ons vadere vertrou het, Leer ook ons vertrou, o Heer: Met ons land en met ons nasie Sal dit wel wees, God regeer.

  • Darter - 2011-09-08 13:29

    Crime reported to have gone up.....complain. Crime reported to have gone down....complain. Nothing makes people happy. And if you don't believe the police stats, ask private bodies like the Institute of Security Studies (who are constantly criticizing the police), who will give you similar data that trends are going down. Of course crime has its spikes, so your particular area might be seeing an increase, but the general trend is going down. How exactly can the murder rate be doctored? Do people have dead bodies in their living rooms, refusing to report it to the police? All we need now are increased conviction rates.

  • York Hunt - 2011-09-08 13:30

    "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments, and the tendency of people to disparage statistics that do not support their positions. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point.

  • captain - 2011-09-08 13:32

    these figures are joke

  • Chris - 2011-09-08 13:33

    This statement "Cabinet has commended Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa and National Police Commissioner General Bheki Cele for a downward trend crime statistics" make me want to puke. Exactly what have these two done to bring down the crime rate. Have they walked a beat? Any credit would go the the thinning line of incorruptible cops that are still out their. In fact Cele is being held accountable for the the questionable deals done to "rent" new police quarters. In any event I do not believe the figures as it is clear most police stations are run by deployed Luthuli House cadre's today. Clearly then they will fudge the truth in favour of making the rulers look good.

  • Obvious - 2011-09-08 13:38

    Drop in crime, more like a drop in the ocean.

  • sipholess - 2011-09-08 13:40

    Can I cancel the order for my electric fence now ?

      battle4truth - 2011-09-08 13:56

      not if live on a farm : (

  • solly - 2011-09-08 13:45

    AG nee wat!!! the last time a mountain bike was stolen by our garden boy and the police (seriously!!) asked my husband if he had given the boy permission to steal it. WEll, since then more has been stolen from us but we don't bother about going to the police station because it doesn't help and no action is taken. I think many statistics of lesser violent crimes are simply not reported because of the poor reponse toward the public. So, ofcourse these crimes would show a reduction - leaving only the more violent crimes to really be 'investigated'.

  • Deeteem - 2011-09-08 13:50

    And then that damn idiot goes and stuffs the whole thing up by stealing his boss'c laptop and cell !!!

  • Mike - 2011-09-08 13:51

    This is so fake. I have been to the cop station to report a crime, and they tell me to rather not report it. It was a wallet that was stolen off me. How many other people have been told that? this means, the stats look good, but the crime stays the same

  • battle4truth - 2011-09-08 13:54

    Stats doctored to please investors.

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