Cape Town proposes commercial stadium use

2012-06-06 08:31

Cape Town - The City of Cape Town wants to convert its stadium into a hub of commercial activity to make the R4.5bn building sustainable, it was reported on Wednesday.

The Cape Times reported that the stadium was costing the city about R44.6m a year with very few hiring activities taking place due to hiring costs.

The mayoral committee decided on Tuesday it would approach the province to ease restrictions that were put in place to appease Green Point residents during the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

The province had banned commercial and retail outlets, commercial parking, and hiring out of commercial office spaces to third parties to reduce high noise levels and traffic volumes.

If these rules are scrapped, it could see a nightclub, restaurants, coffee shops and sports bars built within the stadium and precinct.

Green Point Ratepayers and Residents Association chairperson Bobby Goebel told the newspaper it welcomed development within the stadium but would object to a building on the Green Point Common.

  • Loo - 2012-06-06 08:40

    AGAIN !!! A thinking Municipality. Nothing more I can ad

      Richard - 2012-06-06 08:46

      Except another d :)

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-06 09:09

      @Richard You are too sharp !!

      Mahomed - 2012-06-06 09:19

      durban did this a long time ago. moses mabhida is one of the best places to go in dbn for a day out and the virgin active there is one of the best in the country

      Loo - 2012-06-06 09:26

      Bwahahaha Richard .. I will then ad the missing "D" officially .. See im not stupid, I just have a relaxed brain :)) hehhe

      Honey - 2012-06-06 09:43

      Put it out to tender - a private management company, even working within the existing restrictions, can make this a viable business based on it's location and accessability alone.Leave it up to Council and it'll be falling to pieces very quickly - and Yes, CT is the best Council, so this is not a go at them.

      Fussed - 2012-06-06 09:47

      Keep the anc scum out of this or it will go belly up soon

      Deon - 2012-06-06 10:07

      This is a good idea. It was managed before by a private company and Morne Du Plessis was involved. It could not make enough money and was given back to the city.

      Honey - 2012-06-06 10:34

      @Deon - I was personally involved in a number of very financially lucrative day functions there and assure you, I could make it very viable given backing to lease the place. Morne's hands were tied and he was not given the support of his fellow Directors to make it to the next level - sad as he is a superb businessman, a gentleman and honorable to boot!

      NrGx - 2012-06-06 11:24

      Masterful! - Well done WC, never cease to amaze and never disappoint

      cap.mor.5 - 2012-06-06 12:47

      They been thinking about this for a long time now ... Don't you think?

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-06-06 13:54

      @Leonardb1 what or who is this FA that you support?

      Nick - 2012-06-06 16:33

      The Green Point Ratepayers Association must chill - simple. I've seen how successful and vibrant the activities are around the Moses Mabhida Stadium - a very cool addition to Durban's attraction.. If we can add to the CT Stadium and surrounds as suggested above - it would add fantastic entertainment value to the area, create jobs, and alleviate the financial burden on the City of Cape Town.. If the Green Point Ratepayers Association still have a problem - I have an idea - add the bill of R44,6 million to THEIR rates only - let them pay for the upkeep.. Lol! It's not as if it's pristine SAN Parks land or a reserve or the like - it's a built-up area - it will simply be another feather in the cap of a first-world city - Cape Town - and all she has to offer residents and vistors alike - the rejuvenation and modernisation of the city and surrounds.. :)

  • mccombero - 2012-06-06 08:42

    Everyone knew that this was going to be a white elephant from the word go.

      philani.goba - 2012-06-06 08:54

      but they went ahead anyway..atleast CT is thinking of sustainability..I feel sorry for Nelson Mandela Bay, Mbombela etc

      Bongani - 2012-06-06 09:10

      at Mr Kcopah Nelson Mandela Bay is more active than most stadium even better than FNB stadium. The only municipality that had a proper plan for Stadium after world cup is Ethekwini. Moses Mabhida is more busy than most malls.

      Citroes - 2012-06-06 10:08

      @Mr Kcopah - the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium is the only big stadium in PE now, so it is being utilised fully. The problem in Cape Town is the WP Rugby Union who refuses to move - be it right or wrong on their part - because rugby is where the money lies for the Green Point stadium. If they can get over that hurdle, things will be a lot better for the CT Stadium.

      Loo - 2012-06-06 10:57

      @Citroes . .why would the union move, why move from something you own a HUGE stake property wise to something you own nothing of. I agree with WP Rugby union on that one. Money talks .. and rightly so

  • Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-06-06 08:48

    It was done in China after the Olympics and it works really,but it was built for soccer and soccer must always be given first priority when some team wants to hire it for that purpose.

      Harold - 2012-06-06 09:03

      Tankiso Then why is the soccer community not using it? Soccer should take the blame for this problem. It was claimed that people are soccer mad in South Africa and that we have the best soccer talent in the world. and that the soccer fans deserve this stadium . Where are you fans now to help pay for it. This was just more lies.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-06-06 09:12

      @Harold,we have fallen on bad times i quess my friend and another thing is teams from CT are not adequately sponsored that's why they don't use the stadium as it is very expensive.

      Loo - 2012-06-06 09:32

      The only other sport big enough to Utilize it is Rugby. And I doubt whether the Union will use it instead of Newlands for many obvious reasons. It would be a great Cricket venue,,but I dont know whether the field is big enough to meet minimum requirements. Apart from sport there are MANY other recreational activities that can be hosted there .. From chess (in Some of the Boardrooms) to Rock concerts. They must think outside the box and see it as NOT only a sport venue. Which btw. is apparent in their current thinking

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-06-06 10:05

      Well said Loo,there are many ways to kill the cat.

      Bibi - 2012-06-06 12:56

      There is the upgraded Athlone stadium for soccer and within reach of the soccer playing communities. The ANC thought that the surrounding areas were not posh enough for the SWC in 2010.

      Jared - 2012-06-06 15:49

      Hey! I like cats!

  • Sonja - 2012-06-06 08:49

    Well done - it helps if the powers have brains. VIVA the Cape Town municipality.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-06-06 09:01

      Nice idea by the municipality,although it's a cut and pace idea from the Chinese but i am sure it's going to work.Big up to the municipality

  • Jean - 2012-06-06 08:51

    Excellent, would be nice to use and see the area more and there is excellent public transport but I doubt a few restaurants and bars would cover the cost. Still think the stormers should move to the stadium, think it's time we support and use new infrastructure.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-06 08:55

    Zille warned about this before the stadium was built. At the time, she said that the money would be better spent on clinics and schools. In return, she was accused of having a negative attitude towards the World Cup and the "ANC achievement" in bringing the tournament to SA. Pigeons coming home to roost ?

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-06-06 08:57

    Excellent idea ..........10 outa 10 for a brainy municipality

  • anthro45 - 2012-06-06 08:59

    Good idea. Do it.

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-06-06 09:01

    Now that is how a brain should work,well done DA you are the future for sure.

  • Mlamli - 2012-06-06 09:03

    We said it this stadium will never be a white elephant lol

  • craigdavidfox - 2012-06-06 09:15

    I would love to be able to access the stadium to host Teambuilding events, it would make for such and awesome event, and i'm sure a great opportunity for many local and foreign groups to be truck by the wondrous surroundings, imagine them going back home and telling their friends and colleges about the stadium and what Cape Town is doing to make the city a more diverse place.

  • Vaaldonkie - 2012-06-06 09:15

    Well, at least we're putting in a real effort. I've been against the thing from the start, and I still am, but I respect the fact that Auntie Pat and her team are trying to make back the money they squandered. Maybe next time the ratepayers will get to vote before their money is wasted on white elephants.

  • henningvw - 2012-06-06 09:31

    I would move the Western Province and Stormers to this stadium, Newlands has had its good years, but here is something better, newer and in a better location.

      Ze Don - 2012-06-06 10:11

      What business would hire a premises when they already own the premises that the operate from successfully? It's exactly the same problem as in Durban.

  • ztoefy - 2012-06-06 09:31

    bring the flea market back on the premises every sunday. They can money by selling monthly trading licenses.

  • Thabiso - 2012-06-06 09:32

    Brilliant idea, well done to the City of Cape Town.

  • Glenda - 2012-06-06 09:35

    What a good idea. Lets do it to the other staduim!

  • Johann - 2012-06-06 09:36

    Good job CPT, it is a pitty though you need to fix , people that was there before problems they caused for their own bennefit,what was wrong with Newlands for the world cup?????CPT is on the move people take note ..... I wonder why??????Or do we all know the real answer for that....not enough ANC members to corrupt it .Keep the thinking caps on DA!!!!!!!!

      Guy - 2012-06-08 15:47

      What was wrong with Newlands? It doesn't have 'that' view of Table Mountain as it's back drop. That's why FIFA insisted on using Green Point.

  • - 2012-06-06 09:37

    This all while service delivery protests continue. Turn it into housing for the poor stop making the rich richer give homes to the poor wake up and make it into housing

      roiyen - 2012-06-06 09:52

      You made me laugh. Yes we have a housing shortage, but really now, do you honestly expect the city to turn a stadium into low cost housing? Dude what are you nuts? You need a wake up call.

      Loo - 2012-06-06 11:34

      @kemp I hope your'e being sarcastic..If not I can just say.. please go work for government, as you will bankrupt any private company in 24 hours.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-06-06 14:01 and within a year they would have vandalised & burnt it to the ground like everything else they get given for free.

  • ryno.v.rooyen - 2012-06-06 09:44

    Can somebody then also just please sort out the 1/3rd of the previous Greenpoint stadium that is still standing. It looks horrible.

      Timothy - 2012-06-06 09:48

      It is busy being sorted out right now.....

  • Timothy - 2012-06-06 09:47

    Good luck with that... They should read the Western Cape Noise Control Regulations...

  • badballie - 2012-06-06 09:47

    time to do something constructive with these white elephants the ANC saddled us with, unfortunately even if they are used for the commercial enterprises they will still remain a drain on the municipality and will not ever run at a profit, This is what happens when a bunch of idiots are blinded by the prospect of back hands, the "it was a boost to South Africa" excuse doesn't hold water.

  • Kustom - 2012-06-06 09:48

    Should not have been built in the first place...Seb Blatter got his way, his money and now CT is left with the per normal

  • Kimon - 2012-06-06 09:54

    The Stadium is a Jewel in Cape Town's Crown - Do what you can to increase its usage! I work in Green Point and support any development in the area!

  • Saleh - 2012-06-06 09:54

    thats brilliant news . Transform that white elephant into something useful and of service to all south africans.

  • patrickflynn73 - 2012-06-06 09:58

    I think its a great idea. We have a gym and restuarants at our Stadium in Durban and its a great venue/vibe.... go for it Cape Town!!!!

  • Andre - 2012-06-06 10:13

    What about using the big, grand stadium for the current World Cup tournament ??? I mean , to watch the U20 NZ, SA teams on a big venue would have been amazing

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-06-06 10:40

    The stadium should be used to popularize soccer within the bounds of what the majority of soccer fans earn on a weakly basis. Prices are to high for the normal soccer fan to take his family on a soccer night out. At present there is this short term view to what it costs for the stadium to run and little inclusion of Western Cape citizens because the price of tickets to the venue are completely out of proportion. If a study were to be done the result would be similar to the following prognoses. The average broken down earnings (wage/salary) of employed households in Cape Town and surrounds earn plus/minus R3500.00 -R5000.00 month Salary earners R8000.00 to R15 000.00 per month. The majority of soccer fans are in the lower earning bracket therefore the cost of going to watch a game should be calculated according to what can be afforded by the populace. This should include, traveling, eats and entrance for a family of five. I remember many years ago the Hartlyvale derby games which always use to play to a packed stadium, if I remember Cape Town City verses Helenic was a cooker. The fact is that if the game of soccer is to expensive for the supporters to watch then there will never be decent fan base that can fill such large stadiums. It would be better to built up a weekly or bi-weekly tradition for football fans to enjoy the stadium creating a tradition and then slowly lift the price as seats become more in demand.

      Loo - 2012-06-06 11:45

      Soccer tickets currently are much lower than rugby. The same populace in the western cape are divided almost equally between rugby and soccer fans in general. Soccer can and never will make a stadium "that big" viable on its own in WC. Diversification is key, exactly the way they're doing it. And as far as popularising soccer goes, Not much more can be done I believe especially since we have a useless and completely sub standard national team which creates more embarrassment than pride in "potential" new soccer fans. End of the day a sport grows due to largely pride and a sense of unity, best achieved by performance of a national team. Rugby World cup being a prime example of that.

  • John - 2012-06-06 11:15

    At least there will be some use for this white elephant.

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-06-06 11:22

    Yeah good thinking anything that has to do with money in Cape Town is good, hope we will not hear corruption cases nhe. Pity we will not host any game next year that would have been good but Zille is Zille in Cape Town

  • cap.mor.5 - 2012-06-06 12:45

    Oh just knock it down and get it over with.

      Bibi - 2012-06-06 12:59

      Yup that is what Korea did.

  • cap.mor.5 - 2012-06-06 12:46

    They been thinking about this for a long time now .... Don't you think?

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