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Cape braces for second wave of farm strikes

2012-12-03 22:11

Johannesburg - Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant has called for peaceful protests during a farmworkers' pay strike on Tuesday.

"Violence has no place in our society whose foundation as a democracy is based on intensive social dialogue," the minister said in a statement on Monday.

Oliphant said farmers should continue talking to workers to try and find a resolution to their grievances.

Last week, the minister said it would be impossible to meet the workers' 4 December deadline, by which they had wanted their demands addressed.

This after farmworkers suspended the strike to allow for the Employment Conditions Commission (ECC) to look at the sectoral determination for agriculture.

Oliphant said the sectoral determination was put in place in March this year and legally could only be reviewed again in 12 months.

The department would continue with public hearings aimed at contributing to a new sectoral determination.

"The hearings have been scheduled until 13 December 2012 but in some instances, the department will be going back for further hearings where we have been requested to," she said.

The Commercial Stevadoring Agricultural and Allied Workers' Union (CSAAWU) said workers were angry as they felt their demands were not being taken seriously.

"The workers said they felt that suspending the strike to allow for leaders to find a solution was a waste of time," the CSAAWU's Karel Swart said.

He said although the union had made it clear that no violence would be tolerated, it could not confirm that all striking farmworkers would adhere to the call for a peaceful protest.

"We are still calling on workers to desist from intimidation, violence, blocking roads and unruly behaviour."

Western Cape police commissioner Arno Lamoer said: "Everybody has the right to protest peacefully. But I will arrest and prosecute anybody who acts against the law."

The Congress of SA Trade Unions in the province said negotiations with Agri SA, which represented the farmers, had broken down.

Provincial secretary Tony Ehrenreich said unions had not been able to avert the renewed strike and if it went ahead, it would increase hostility on farms.

"The route that the farmers and Agri SA has chosen, by disregarding workers, will lead to the common ruin of us all and the collapse of the industries around agriculture," Ehrenreich said.

Farmworkers wanted a daily wage of R150 and better living conditions. The protests started with table grape harvesters in De Doorns, where most workers were earning between R69 and R75 a day.

Two people had been killed in the protests, while vineyards and buildings were torched.

Comment from Agri SA could not immediately be obtained.

Comments
  • peter.mansfield.395 - 2012-12-03 22:16

    Frightening to watch workers (mining and now farming) destroying their own jobs. They know not what they do! COSATU ENCOURAGES them. And the ANC just WATCHES the JOB DESTRUCTION , and TALKS about job creation.

      FeebleGastro - 2012-12-03 22:24

      That's Africa at work. No hope. Nothing.

      lownabester - 2012-12-03 22:46

      "Violence has no place in our society whose foundation as a democracy is based on intensive social dialogue," the minister said in a statement on Monday" Please tell Tony this, he is poison, Hope he gets attack by his own people.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-12-03 23:49

      Tony Ehrenreich is beholden only to Cosatu -- his employer -- and not to Ms Oliphant or the ANC. (Ms Oliphant can and should, however, rein in her party underling, Marius Fransman.)

      thandiwe.ngema.71 - 2012-12-04 00:31

      LOL - COSATU will be involved - how can the minister possibly expect peace!! Congress of Stupidity and Tearing Up.

      roi.boss1 - 2012-12-04 01:18

      Am sure you don't know what you talking bout. The money these people are getting is not enough to survive on. I would rather suffer now than for the rest of my life. The farmers should pay. As simple as that. Only in China will you pay people that

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-04 01:38

      @roobioss - did you know that COSATU together with govt signed into law this year R29 per hour for government workers, R7 per hour for farmworkers? You can blame the farmer all you want but the bottom line is this was made a law by the Alliance. By their own admission, they now cannot change that law until March 2014. I don't agree with the deal they signed, and neither should the workers. But the govt and their union decided this was fair - and it has taken the workers 8 months to get cross about it. There is only one place to take this unhappiness to - straight back to the organisations that signed this deal in the 1st place.

      carpejugulim - 2012-12-04 05:57

      roiboss the farmers don't set the annual wages, the UNIONS and GOVERNMENT do. Ever had a look at what the govt workers and union workers get paid compared to what a farmworker gets paid? Easy to say that the farmers must pay the workers more but, contrary to popular belief the farmers do not make the massive profits that you think they do

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-04 06:38

      Well the morons still have the communist idea that the government creates the jobs. They don't actually have the foggiest idea how to create jobs and grow an economy.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-12-04 08:45

      The farmworkers minimum wage is a disgrace - who can live on R70 per day? However, a lot of our farmers are caught in a trap. Most agricultural sectors world wide are getting subsidised by the government in order to ensure food security. This leads to artificailly low prices for agricultural produce on world markets. In Sa the farmers are not subsidised, and have to compete against low cost imports... which makes farming not viable. With higher wages and no subsidies, farmers will go out of business, which will lead to more farm land becoming available for redistribution. So the ANC will get their way... and if we become a country who has to import food they don't care. It's a win-win for the ANC... more land for redistribution, and seeming to be the hero to farmworkers in the cape which will gain them some votes in an area where they are not governing... Politics is a dirty game. Its all about using people to gain political ends and don't care who gets hurt on the way...

  • danie.strydom.7 - 2012-12-03 22:19

    Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike 3 - REDUNDANCY .... carry on ...

  • jakalas.kruger - 2012-12-03 22:21

    From under which bush did they drag this one to make it a minister? Good lord the ANC is really scraping the barrel.

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-04 00:41

      Ernest, I didn't know that Paul Kruger was a racist? Care to share more of your version of history with us?

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-12-04 02:14

      @sean.wolf if you can double check my comment again you will findout that it was just a reaction because the guys like this jakalas whenever they talk about us they talk about something which is coming from the bushes or caves

      sean.noble1 - 2012-12-04 06:50

      @ernest the bushes and caves comments refer to them being idiots with the mentality and intelligence of neanderthals, it has nothing to do with race or skin colour. Their misguided politcal games are going to destroy this country you live in. And idiots like Oliphant and Erenreich that are A useless and B just in it for power and politics are some of the main culprits. Its time that the ANC stop this African way of politics and move into the first world where the best qualified leaders get ministerial positions, not a bunch of uneducated idiots that got their positions of who they know or who they support in their party. A minister of agriculture needs have at least 20 years farming experience, with at least a valid Phd in an agriculture related field. That should be the minimum qualification. Here are her qualifications: Certificate in Macroeconomics. Certificate in Project management. Both of those are 3 months courses.

      sean.noble1 - 2012-12-04 07:01

      Not to mention that old Tony was a Mechanic turned trade unionist.

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-04 13:25

      @Sean: So much for sarcasm... Ernest's comment was deleted and my comment lost it's context. I was curious about Ernest's skewed perspective on history.

  • Benjamin - 2012-12-03 22:39

    Oliphant you are such a fail.

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-12-04 03:09

      Who let the dogs out, must be one of the spear's discards. "Mirror, mirror on the wall"

      FeebleGastro - 2012-12-04 09:41

      All of them are.

  • rob.gunning.1 - 2012-12-03 22:44

    Bear in mind Tony has never proposed ANY plan in aid of preventing a situation. All he wants to do is blame. If it's not Agri SA, it's the farmers, or the DA or the whites or the coloureds or the blacks. What is your plan Tony... For years I've been listening to your drivel and never, not once have you actually proposed any plan of action that doesn't involve some kind of call to violence. Your fingers stink of corruption just like your pal Zuma and I don't trust you a bit.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-12-03 23:51

      Tony is a Cosatu. It's his mandate to look after his members and not the country or the industry.

      anne.somerville - 2012-12-04 00:41

      Tony is the one behind the "strikes " ! The actual farm workers are happy & getting paid above min wage !! It's all a plot organised by Tony & the ANC to make the Cape look bad because they cannot deal with the fact that everything works under the DA leadership !The farm workers are happy & terrified of these outside people causing problems !

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-12-04 03:11

      Blip, you're such a fool, the one goes hand in hand with the other.

      sean.noble1 - 2012-12-04 07:08

      Tony the ex Mechanic / wannabe politician couldn't give a hoot about the workers if he did he would do everything he can to avoid strikes and continue talks, every time there is going to be a strike, its more motivation to mechanize the farming industry and to do away with Cosatu affiliated workers. He knows he is destroying jobs, all for a political plot to destabilize the only stable province in this country.

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-12-03 22:45

    a peaceful protest...these people don't know a thing called peaceful

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-12-03 22:45

    Why has Ehrenreich not been arrested already?

      blip.noodlum - 2012-12-03 23:52

      On what verifiable actual charges?

  • avremel.niselow - 2012-12-03 22:57

    To all grape farmers, you can now import automatic grape harvesters, the outlay is large but they won't strike or burn your crops.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-12-03 23:54

      Automatic grape harvesters are quite brutal and are therefore only used for inferior wine grapes and juicing grapes -- they fetch only one fifth the market price of top-grade table-grapes, all of which are hand-harvested.

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-04 00:45

      blip, the grape harvesters is for wine grapes. Most of our table grapes is anyway grown in Eastern Cape. Although berries does get bruised during harvesting, the advantage that one can use a harvester at night when it is cooler nullify the disadvantage.

      elgh.elgh - 2012-12-04 07:58

      Listen blip you stupid idiot, avremel made a suggestion based on the current situation on the farms. I would rather take 20% than nothing. If they burn your fields you get 0% moron

      farmer.brown.372019 - 2012-12-04 09:27

      @ Mbulelo, you are correct my friend! Unfortunately our country is full of ingnorant people that think they are clever. Like Blip they comment on things they do not know or understand. Blip is just and ignorant, uninformed troll looking for thumb downs, thats his currancy!

      karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-04 14:49

      Sorry, I meant that table grapes are grown in Northern Cape. My bad.

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-12-03 23:09

    "The route that the farmers and Agri SA has chosen, by disregarding workers, will lead to the common ruin of us all and the collapse of the industries around agriculture," Ehrenreich said. You started it and are really enjoying it, arn't you, Tony. Your double life as an arsonest and apparant peacemaker are there for all to see.

  • rian.dejager.3 - 2012-12-03 23:36

    Oliphant is USELESS in capital letters. Everyone knows that the farmers are within what the "Law" and Government have proposed as minimum wage. Go burn the offices of the ANC it is they who decided on that amount. Cosatu, your offices should also be burned cause you are advancing mechanization and job losses at an exponential (Oh... it means 1 become 2, 2 become 4, 4 become 8 etc) rate. Plus where was COSATU when they determined the minimum wage. I hope your plans blow up in your face!

      blip.noodlum - 2012-12-03 23:59

      The farmers are using the MINIMUM wage as the MEDIAN wage and that is blatant exploitation. And "mechanisation" is really the emptiest of threats because table-grapes CANNOT be mechanically harvested and not can vines be mechanically pruned and trained. The farm workers -- who actually know these things far better than these keyboard critics -- are aware of their irreplacability. They CAN and HAVE called the bluff.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-04 01:38

      Yes blip just like the garment industry workers called their employers bluff, how did that work out for them?

      jacques.devilliers.16 - 2012-12-04 08:04

      @blip you only have one tune...over and over...this is so boring. The table grape industry is not even 0.001% of the agriculture in SA. Do you really think that we are scared? We are not going to make a dicision because of the table grapes you idiot.

  • john.semane - 2012-12-03 23:36

    TIA

  • richardnealejohn.underwood - 2012-12-04 00:12

    WHAT are these strikers bothering the farmers for ? We have nothing to do with any of this crap. "Olifant said that farmers should continue talking to workers to try to find a resolution to their grievances ." Go do that yourself you idiots set us a exorbitant minimum wage instead of just leaving things be. we have already had to turn half our workers loose in when you brought that in ,you have caused unemployment and will continue to do so . Go do what youre grossly overpaid to do, but dont do. You and. or your government laid down R70 per day we are complying with it.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-04 02:20

      Yep, what the The Alliance has failed to communucate to their members is not only the R7 p/h deal signed into law in March (along with the R29 p/h for govt workers!!) but also that was easier than budgeting for farming subsidies. No-one tells the worker (or the consumer) that that cheap chicken, lamb etc comes from a highly subsidised market. The Alliance has sold their people down the river and now they turn the mirror onto the farmers. This was one of Stalin's finest tactics, forever winning him the love of the people whilst 20 MILLION died. In some cultures, countless dead mean nothing *if it is at the hand of a perceived benefactor*

  • anne.somerville - 2012-12-04 00:30

    I have just been on some of those farms & spoken to the workers ! They are happy , getting paid well ,they are against these strikes & behind the farmers !! The so called "strikers " are being brought in from Kwazulu Natal & don't even work on the farms !! This is pure incitement by the ANC !!

      lunga.matsikechangu - 2012-12-04 05:06

      With their workers farmers are putting fireguard around their crops and farms.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-04 01:32

    I'm glad the farmers and Agri SA did not roll over in this matter. Fact is, the farmers are doing nothing wrong. They are paying their workers in accordance to the prescribed tariff established there by the GOVERNMENT. I would lay off all these unlawful and unruly workers who are trying their luck just before Christmas.

  • Mariaan Viljoen - 2012-12-04 02:15

    if you're not satisfied with the wages, just ask the ANC to create jobs for you with a BIIIG salary. They are so good at that. You don't even need experience or knowledge to become a minister or something like that

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-12-04 02:49

    If your emoployer isn't paying you enough per our you are free to leave... oh buts its too comfortable when food, home and a school for the kids are all free... pay them more but let them pay rent, school fees and any food like normal people do!

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-12-04 03:27

    to all the farm workers i would like to say its better to die for your own freedom than to be a prisoners for the rest of youre lives.and the people who are making your lives miserable are not taking aday of so why should you ?discent living for all mankind.

      Desilusionada - 2012-12-04 04:29

      Right, So you are at what town today to go die for your freedom? Please let us know so that we can get photographic proof to show the world. Or are you happy to shout slogans as long as it is others and not you? One assumes you know all about a "discent" living for all mankind? Whatever that might be?......

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-12-04 05:28

      its sound so amazing in the sens that when one of your own people comment like saying shoot the bastards you always chose to remain silent but we try to rais our concerns you reply like nobody else.by the way iknow that it will be always horses for courses.

      Desilusionada - 2012-12-04 06:40

      Yes I always try to: "reply like nobody else" Hence my comment. There is a huge difference between your inflammatory statements and raising a concern. Will you drive into a petrol garage and voluntary pay more for fuel than the marked price? If you are not happy with the price/liter do you burn down the garage, or do you complain to the government who sets and control the fuel price? If you do not like the government, do not blame the farmer....

  • lunga.matsikechangu - 2012-12-04 04:54

    Real farmworkers don't go on strike, they are the most docile people who love life and peace .please dont stage manage and pretent to be farmworkers

  • dave.abner.56 - 2012-12-04 04:54

    Where is that thief, Tina Joudief Petersen? Does she not have a role to play here?

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-04 13:13

      I don't think she has a role to play anywhere...

  • Thobile Lugwadu - 2012-12-04 04:56

    Most of the workers in that region have missing teeth. They must ask for compensation as well

      bibi.vanzyl - 2012-12-04 08:13

      They prefer to have missing teeth - their own doing I'm afraid.

      bibi.vanzyl - 2012-12-04 08:15

      They unfortunately will also have missing jobs as several farmers according to one news report has acquired mechanines to replace them.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-12-04 05:00

    Can someone educate these people that burning your place of work is not the brightest Idea!!!

  • sandor.l.varga - 2012-12-04 05:06

    I'm hoping a police has issued enough live ammunition this time around. AVBOB guys will be busy to take a seasonal workers back to Easter Cape....

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-12-04 05:33

      but rember onething what goes around comes around you will never knows so pls shut youre f,,,ck up cause we are not going anywhere this is the land of our ancestors take or live it

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-04 07:00

      Don't forget that the roads to Lesotho and Zimbabwe will be especially busy

      kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-12-04 09:25

      @ernest - let me educate you... seems you have missed a few history classes. this is not the land of your ancestors... you came and killed the Khoi people the San people and took their land away. Maybe it is time you guys give back instead of constantly complaining.

  • Charles Frederik Robberts - 2012-12-04 05:24

    Lets hope today is the beginning of the end! Lets sort this nonsense out once and for all so that we can get on with our lives.

      terra.schoultz - 2012-12-04 09:22

      Sorry Charles, though we all want this sorted it will not happen soon, as you have people like the Oliphant's, Tony's and the rest of the useless cANCer that are not educated enough to do just this. All they worry about is the lining of their own pockets and F.ck the people of our country. If only we could find a way to show all the cANCer supporters that there is a good future without these idiots currently in power!!!!

  • sakhile.makhathini.7 - 2012-12-04 05:45

    Instead of ppl looking 4solutions, they pick sides based on race and status (employer/employee). What if the govt were 2help farmers wth R20 to push the salary 2 R100 averting strike until April where the new sectorial determination agreement wl b signed. Yes food is expensive but a 10cent more on vatted products won't hurt that much as a temporary solution 2avert the strike. Any other strike won't b good 4the country and yes the salary of farmworkers s too little.

      Erick - 2012-12-04 06:04

      You are Makhathini this power corrupt purpet Government of SA tent to ignore the impotant things in lyf or ppls lyf bt focus on themselves n their wallets

  • andrew.faure - 2012-12-04 05:50

    Time to get rid of the ANC methinks! http://www.facebook.com/StopTheANC

  • steven.m.armour - 2012-12-04 06:38

    Another day in the circus.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-04 06:40

    A friend of mine has had a business for the last 10 years, makes a living and pays a fair wage. Has had to close his factory down because of strike action. The result are his workers are on the street. In my life I got paid on merit and when I worked hard and well got bonuses and increases when justified. I never threatened an employer or danced or sang or burnt the workplace down. The unions are going to cause more deaths and destruction to justify their union fees which go to providing union leaders with bling lifestyles and the workers just suffer. The entitlement attitude needs to change or the result will be just more and more unemployment.

  • ansie.fourie.940 - 2012-12-04 06:41

    Happy new year to all the farmworkers. No money, no food no nothing Go and ask for Tony and Cosatu.

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-12-04 07:00

      Yip, and not even a free "papsakkie" for a "krismas-box" this year, no boss to play xmas-father cause no job anymore.

  • Berto En Petra Mostert - 2012-12-04 06:50

    Farmers in US and Europe are heavily subsidised! Government must subsidise here as well

      bibi.vanzyl - 2012-12-04 08:16

      They are subsidising the President and his 40 thieves - no money for the farmers I'm afraid.

  • eland.snitbul - 2012-12-04 06:50

    I can honestly not understand what a second strike would help... they are negotiating a better wage... the labour minister is doing what she calls her best to resolve this.. another strike will only lead to more losses for farmers and more job losses... It would be a great shame if thousands lose their jobs due to this moron of a minister and she keeps her job after this.

  • georgie.owen.7 - 2012-12-04 07:12

    Imagine free house, free local school, free sport fields, free local clinic, free transport, idyllic surrounds of nature, access to fresh farm produce... then the small pay looks different! Have been there this weekend and learned that hundreds of farm workers are FORCED to strike or will be ring necked. Orders from 'above'.

  • Danie Gerber - 2012-12-04 07:15

    Just fire all the workers. 25% of South Africa is unemployed. They can easily be replaced.

  • Strikeback - 2012-12-04 07:17

    Isolate the persons causing the strikes by rendering their members unemployed. Rid the industry of striking workers and dismiss them when they partake in illegal strikes. Report any dismissed employee to Strikeback for listing on our site, so other future employers do not make the same mistake of employing someone that has proven him/herself a risk to workplace stability. www.strikeback.co.za

  • StreetRacer911 - 2012-12-04 07:22

    These ungrateful buggers should thank their stars that they actually have a job in a country with 30% unemployment. I say sack them once and for all. There are thousands of others who will work for some money. They will not stop until they get R150 a day. So when they finally get that, food prices will shot through the roof. Slowly killing the working society

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-12-04 07:40

    Looking forward to a Marikana II. Fire them all if they don't want to work and shoot them if they cause trouble ............bottom line.

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-12-04 07:52

    these farmers just dont want to pay thier slaves.for once just pay them n end all this mayhem for them and your sake

  • sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-04 08:01

    The first problem is that South African whites see themselves as better than other races especially blacks and coloreds. As a result farmers dont take an initiative to better the farm conditions and show the people they are important for farm operations and that farmers care about them, that care is not cheap booze , shelter but in form of interlocks , guidance and make workers understand the difficulties in farms. There are few farmers ( unfortunately foreign whites) who does that and during this time , their employees are standing by them as they understand the situation. Yes they are striking to avoid confrontation but workers are not acting in aggression as we know everywhere in the world strikers are now aggressive than before. Secondly farmers think first of retaliation or heavy confrontation which is once again a foolish approach as that perpetrate the farm issues than fix them. So how do we fix thing problem . . . Farmers need to set clear targets and expectation to all their workers and make them understand limitations. This must be done without being bossy or showing who can fire /hire however by making it clear who you wish to keep ( in form of job expectation) and how you will handle discipline issues. Unions unfortunately are part of the trade and the farmers need to have a good relationship with them. The military DA and Afriforumn approach will not work at all.

      jacques.devilliers.16 - 2012-12-04 08:32

      If you argue like that..then its probably okay for me to say all blacks are rapists, murders and thieves? I think most people will agree that neither of us will be right? My workers already get more than R150 per week. Im a white SA farmer and i love my workers. So where do I fall in your one brain cell argument? Its up to the goverment to set a minimum loan..YOUR goverment, your people. So any farmer that pay more than R70 per day in the law. If the goverment decide it must be R150 than so be it, but dont blame it on the farmers.

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-04 09:18

      Your first sentence is idiotic and totally invalidates anything you might spew thereafter. The problem is that black people have low standards, are racist and can't think for themselves when their unions negotiate wage rates. I suggest you drop the INFERIORITY complex and accept that education really is the only way forward for your people, while admitting that you are sorry for supporting the corrupt and violent ANC mafia that steals money meant for the improvement of your communities. At least farmers give you a job, so put a sock in it.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-04 10:08

      Most of these coloured or black workers who started on the farms with no education background or working experience will all disagree with you and be thankful what the white farmer has done for them. The minority of them suffers from these Cosatu tendencies

  • sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-04 08:03

    Because farmers treat themselves as white superior beings , they do not have support of the general public as they are perceived as racists and how they treat black people most of them support that. We need farmers as they feed the nation , however they need to come out of their corner and be more of leaders to their employees and everyone will be happy . The government on the other had need to fund farm projects so farmers can make good money , to grow and supply the entire continent with food. This will allow better salaries and people to buy their own houses as farmers are not obligated to provide housing however they do it for employees benefit ( however this must be done proper if done ). The farm killing is a criminal element and the police are not doing enough to protect farmers , this is not fair as white farmers are citizens of the country and have a constitutional right to state security and protection.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-04 09:14

      So, the problem is actually with a corrupt government that refuses to subsidise faming activities. Government should help farmers so that they in return can uplift their workers even more.

      john.halforty - 2012-12-04 09:29

      Sipho, I fully agree with you. There is so much hatred around, and it solves nothing at all.

  • impi.masondo - 2012-12-04 09:02

    the land must be handed to the people it belongs to all of us

      farmer.brown.372019 - 2012-12-04 09:20

      Handouts, fantastic, everyone loves it! Unfortunately someone must work for the handouts someone else receives - eish, that sucks!

      mark.corrigan.3910 - 2012-12-04 09:29

      Impi, please produce the title deeds, as this is a country that follows the rule of law, including property rights. Alternatively, please provide proof where you or your family were specifically removed from a piece of land during Apartheid. 90% of this land has already been "returned", maybe you were a bit slow when applying. Unfortunately, during the colonial years, your chief swapped your land for 100 head of cattle. You no longer have right to that land. Also, you don't qualify for land simply because you are black, because your mother and father come from Zimbabwe or the Congo, so we can't trace your original land rights - please consult Joseph Kabila or Mugabe. For any other questions, please visit the website www.stfu.com. Thank you.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-04 09:58

      Now, who might that be? The original homosapiens (or whatever they used to be called) that lived here a long time ago? Or maybe you want to return the land to the dinosaurs or the big fishes of the sea? Its extremely arrogant for the black masses to think the land belongs to them whilst all of them migrated from mid-Africa.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-04 09:10

    So, it's the 4th of December and everything seems to be quiet on the farms after threads of another wave of violence. I think the idiots realised that earning the current wage and side-benefits (like free food from the farmer, free lodging in most cases, etc.) is much better than getting nothing before the festive season. Unthankful idiots.

  • tracy.edwards.148 - 2012-12-04 09:21

    It seems that Mr Ehrenreich has changed his tune considerably... Amazing what happens when South Africans stick together!!! As far as the protests are concerned, why not protest outside of government offices rather considering that the issue needs to be resolved at government level?! Also it's not that you are not being taken seriously, it's that you're a demanding bunch of brats that the government will not be intimidated by. Do things the right way and you will achieve results with far less hatred afterwards!!!

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-12-04 10:03

    Everything is very quite today on strike day. Not even a word of Tony, Nosey or Marius. The three stupid stoodges is probably out of a job and pondering how they wil fight for their survival. Spineless individuals! You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time - Cosatu.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-12-04 13:12

    I believe that there are not many farm workers involved here but rather rent a hooligan crowd from the ANC. They want to make trouble in the western cape so that they can win this province so that they can trash this province. Then our country will definetly be african style, filth rot and decay that acceptable by their means. After the voting and things get back or hopefully normal if ever one can all this country normal, these farmworkers are going to suffer and they are going to feel the result of the current actions. Who are they going to blame, where are the hooligans they are allowing to do this on their behalf, its shocking to see just how far they will stoop.

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