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Carl Pistorius acquitted

2013-05-21 13:33

Johannesburg - Carl Pistorius - the brother of murder-accused paralympian Oscar Pistorius - is a free man.

He was acquitted on a charge of culpable homicide by the Vanderbijlpark Magistrate's Court on Tuesday.

National Prosecuting Authority spokesperson Medupe Simasiku said the State had failed to prove a watertight case against him.

"We do accept the decision of the court and we will not be taking any further action on this case moving forward," Simasiku said shortly after the judgment.

He was involved in an accident on 8 March 2008 which resulted in the death of Maria Barnard. Her motorbike collided with his bakkie.

Magistrate Buks du Plessis ruled that Pistorius was not a negligent driver, saying it was clear that Barnard was travelling at excessively high speed at the time of the accident.

Comments
  • Kathy Brown - 2013-05-21 13:38

    One less worry for the Pistorius family - Carl Pistorius found not guilty

  • Liana Huisman - 2013-05-21 13:38

    Surprised anyone?

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 14:31

      No not all. Let's wait for the next acquittal of all charges.

  • Glenda Gert - 2013-05-21 13:43

    Well his brother is going to rot in jail...let not this set a precedent

  • Tshepo Bra Bosso Tshwane - 2013-05-21 13:46

    Wow!

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 14:06

      It's a criminal offense to propagate violence and civil war fudge PAC er.

      Chez Kri - 2013-05-21 14:07

      @Pac. You are still being mistreated by white people? You outnumber whites by 12-1, are the colour in power and at the top of most corporate ladders but STILL you are controlled? Doesn't that embarrass you? Don't you feel a little bit silly that you have all the power but still feel you are not in control? Wake up, you have the power you have the control. You (as a person not as a race) need to get off your last ar*se and make your own life. Millions of black people have, why not you?

      Gavin Lott - 2013-05-21 14:09

      LOL Pac...bring it!

      Kingsley Brown - 2013-05-21 14:10

      Hey Pac Man shut your pie hole you're an idiot with the IQ of something stuck to the bottom of my shoe. Typical that you'd hide behind a fake profile too. Be a man

      Oscar Blade - 2013-05-21 14:16

      Yes...start a civil war...because when things are not going to your liking then pressing the self destruct button is the logical response.

      Papapipo Mzapi - 2013-05-21 14:40

      shakur the cases of the pretorius brothers have nothing to do with blacks

      Martin van der Merwe - 2013-05-21 15:14

      @ Fudge Pac, what on this earth have the Pistorius brothers got to do with Blacks and your pathetic comment about civil war, furthermore, everything you utter on any social network is recorded and may lead to prosecution, in actual fact a civil case can be open inciting violence against whites!

      Don Master - 2013-05-21 15:42

      Ja, Pac - you are such an imbecile.

  • LX Viljoen - 2013-05-21 13:47

    Oscar next \m/-.-\m/

  • Richard Scully - 2013-05-21 13:48

    Mmm, and how much to get the little brother off?

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 13:51

      It seems just the evidence but if you know more do tell.

  • Chrono Man - 2013-05-21 13:53

    I am glad for this young man and still feel sorry for the family of the deceased. This is a decision by a court and was based on facts. When information about this accident came to light after Oscar's shooting incident many people turned against the Pistorius family as if they were all a bunch of criminals. I believe in Oscar's case justice will also prevail and will not be surprised if the sentence is much lighter than is generally expected by those who are biased against him and his family.

      Carl Harding - 2013-05-21 14:10

      People are biased against Oscar? No they're not. Very much the opposite from what I've heard. I think all people want to see is justice. What they expect to see is preferential treatment due to his status. Which brings us to your point - "will not be surprised if the sentence is much lighter than is generally expected" - I agree, he'll probably get away with murder.

  • LX - 2013-05-21 13:53

    Pac Shakur...do like your first name..."PAC" your stuff and piss off

  • LX - 2013-05-21 13:55

    Pac Shakur, its people like you that are to blame for SA being so messed up, rasist ...very sad

      Nqobile Buzi - 2013-05-21 15:13

      Hope your comments are not limited to him alone because reading through these comments one can easly say people here a racist

  • Regte Boer - 2013-05-21 13:56

    All you need is for your lawyer to discredit the witness and create doubt then you walk. Sick system but that's the way it works.

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 14:03

      It would be a healthy system if we convicted people based on unreliable discredited evidence?

      Regte Boer - 2013-05-21 14:35

      The truth never comes out in a court case. The prosecutor is normally an inexperienced junior person in the NPA. They then bring in a top lawyer with years of experience to manipulate the questioning of the witnesses in such a way as to create doubt. They would ask the same question over and over with slight differences until the witness trips up then they tel the magistrate that the witness is lying. It is only in the very high profile cases that the NPA actually gets experienced prosecutors to handle the cases. I have been through lots of court cases where I have seen this.

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 14:53

      The physical evidence (skid mark) discredited the witness, not questioning.

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 15:16

      @Nurse Helenk - http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/04/03/skidmark-contradicts-witness-statement-carl-pistorius-defence

      Ryan Viljoen - 2013-05-21 16:16

      Regte Boer, you should never get caught out if you are just telling the truth. True story.

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 17:06

      From experience, the hardest person to cross-exam is a truthful witness.

  • Se-Atile Mmereki - 2013-05-21 13:56

    Good. The case against him was not really fair in the sense that it was only brought back to court because of what Oscar is going through. Let them investigate this one's case on it's own, not because oh the famous brother got in trouble. ok, but now our stupid gov again has failed to present a good case.

      Selma de Beer - 2013-05-21 14:01

      Well said!!

  • Freddy Masia - 2013-05-21 13:59

    i'm nt suprised,his brother Oscer will be free as well...yawning

  • Mike Clery - 2013-05-21 14:04

    He wasn't JUST found not guilty. "Magistrate Buks du Plessis ruled that Pistorius was not a negligent driver, saying it was clear that Barnard was travelling at excessively high speed at the time of the accident." Why did the NPA subject the man to this trial and expense?

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 14:12

      The state presented their case and it appears the deceased was the author of her own demise, speeding bikes followed by accidents does ring a bell.

  • Henk Venter - 2013-05-21 14:05

    aaagggggg NEEEEE!!! wat 'n moerse teleurstelling is dit nie vir die media nie!!!!!!!!!! ek stel voor julle begin kyk of iemand nie dalk iemand betaal het nie. dit sal julle darem weer 'n week of twee besig hou, sal dit nie?

      Richard Scully - 2013-05-21 15:41

      You got a point, they probably did pay their way out of it

  • Jimmy Walls - 2013-05-21 14:07

    Slimeball!

      Leslie Erasmus - 2013-05-21 14:24

      Why Walls,why a slimeball

      Jimmy Walls - 2013-05-21 15:36

      A slimeball for belonging to a killer family with tons of guns.

  • Kabelo Hlomane - 2013-05-21 14:07

    there wasn't a case Carl never took his keys and say am going to kill someone accident is accident. i think npa wanted to bring pistorius family to trial just like shaik family

  • Kabelo Hlomane - 2013-05-21 14:07

    there wasn't a case Carl never took his keys and say am going to kill someone accident is accident. i think npa wanted to bring pistorius family to trial just like shaik family

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:20

      The case against Carl was re-opened BEFORE Oscar killed Reeva.

  • Chez Kri - 2013-05-21 14:09

    Maybe he got off because the woman was to blame and not him. Just because it's a person on a bike doesn't mean they are innocent. I see plenty of bad riders too.

  • TinavoMagaisa - 2013-05-21 14:12

    The statement by the NPA spokesman is concerning. They are actually saying they are an incompetent bunch hence he walked free. So if they case had been handled by a competent prosecutor then he would be guilty? am sure the deceased family can use that and sue Pistorius for wrongful death.

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-21 16:03

      TinavoMagaisa, are you serious, not sure if you drive anything on the street, but all over they mention that she hit his vehicle at the back at a high speed - it means you the one in front cannot be blame for the accident. Did you ever see a motorbike at a high speed and coming from your back, there is no eyes at the back of your head all the time, so he could not see her in time. Carl stop and assist immediately which is normal, people compare him here with party animals going crazy on the roads. There is still a very silent case from March 2013 - a drunk no named lawyer drive into 12 people and kill a lot of them at night - he get bail everything,nobody worries about that, so what poor youngsters had a good time and was killed on their way home - they were walking in te street, but still no reason to be killed, seriously something to ask the NPA ....................

      TinavoMagaisa - 2013-05-21 17:43

      I do drive and own a Landcruiser Amazon. How do you interpret the NPA statement?

  • Zinhle Delwa - 2013-05-21 14:19

    All i can see is that this guy is too damn gorgeous to be in jail *hides*

      PissyWhiskers Black - 2013-05-21 14:44

      hahaha Zinhle they needs some handsome boys in jail too - No discrimination is allowed

      Faith Sabelo - 2013-05-21 15:05

      I agree Zinhle he is hot!!! lol

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:23

      LOL you ladies are deluded. Seek help urgently.

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-21 16:20

      Cute...............

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-21 16:21

      I mean Zinhle, Faith, girls you are cute ...... enjoy what live offers hehehe

      Maleho Mothabeng - 2013-05-21 17:17

      Lol don't hide its true I Agree with you Zinhle, he is yummy

  • israel.ntlatleng - 2013-05-21 14:23

    The way that NPA is failing to prove and loose watertight cases over and over again recently it is really worrying. Any case won by NPA besides Jubjub case ?

  • Mfaniseni Thusi - 2013-05-21 14:26

    A country without morals, money does the talking. Sad for the family of the deceased.

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 14:29

      Did you read what the magistrate said?

      Mfaniseni Thusi - 2013-05-21 14:58

      Absolutely I did. Have you forgotten that evidence can be cooked or destroyed? Wake up China this is Mzansi for you. "The motor bike was traveling on a high speed where is the proof"?

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 15:07

      An 18.3 m skid mark can't be "cooked". http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/04/03/skidmark-contradicts-witness-statement-carl-pistorius-defence

  • KanmiIyanda - 2013-05-21 14:30

    If there ever was a steep learning curve for an outsider, the current situation of things in SA is a perfect example. Reading through this thread, the bile seems to have consumed all from both sides of the racial fence. Surely, people should make it harder for other people to wind them up. I mean I get it...you guys don't like each other, but let's stick to the facts of the case and discuss like grown folk. The best way to put ignorant people in the their place is not by giving them the 'thumbs down,' it's by ignoring them completely.

      Anton Labuschagne - 2013-05-21 14:37

      @ Kan , maybe we should have a website just for the grown-ups ? It irritates me on a daily basis when race comes up , and most of the time I think it's done purposely by the journalists.

  • Pollen K Teffo - 2013-05-21 14:33

    We should all blame whoever the state is appointing to argue such as this...look what happened to Fidentia Boss,Oscar Pistorious and now his brother Carl...who is to blame the state prosecutors!how are they lining up the facts in this cases!all this people are getting away with murder,some embezzlement!!Otherwise release whoever shoots people by mistake,whoever runs people of the road or whoever commits fraud and steal widows and ophens money!

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 14:41

      And also consider that the charges should never have been brought in the first place - that there was little or no evidence supporting the state's case, but plenty contradicting it. That fault also lies with the NPA.

      NoAbsolutes - 2013-05-21 14:43

      http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Carl-Pistorius-case-Conflicting-versions-20130403 http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/04/03/skidmark-contradicts-witness-statement-carl-pistorius-defence

  • Ana Curcic - 2013-05-21 14:39

    NOT surprised at all ! Same tahe part 2...same as the firts. Brother are untauchable! WHY, you tell me!!! why is their life / freedom more important than the people they killed?"?????????????

  • Dumisani Dush Ngqesha - 2013-05-21 14:42

    yhan nhe he must have a very good sangoma,

  • PissyWhiskers Black - 2013-05-21 14:42

    Money talks BullSH*t walks.......now we wait for the running Bullsh*t

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 14:54

      You just put that crap out there any basis or facts supporting it? The NPA have accepted the decision which tells you how good their case was.

  • Kenny Ntamela - 2013-05-21 14:57

    the bees rugby play,sifiso zulu,bryce moon,tatane killer,doctor khumalo,mandoza

  • Mike Stevens - 2013-05-21 15:00

    Yo Pac Shakur, even though your FB account is fake, your IP address isnt...Ever heard of wwww.iptrackeronline.com? anyone, especially those white people you so fervently insult can track your address quite easily and then triangulate your position...Think before you ink, this is your final warning.

      Mike Stevens - 2013-05-21 15:21

      Ah Papapipo, did you see a single insult from me? No? really? exactly!! go back and read my reply. And read Pac's comments about how much he hates whites? or are you just blind to blatant racism? oh wait, it must be that blacks cannot be racist. This was Pac's post "...,if Oscar also walks out a free man then should start a civil war and fight these white morons,we cannot sit back and watch them mistreat us and do nothing about it." he called all whites morons, that is racism, and you're welcome to track my IP, i'm not a racist, nor did i say anything to offend a particular group...

      DanielDennett - 2013-05-21 15:23

      Except Mike isn't making utterances which are criminal.

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:24

      It's a bit more complicated than that. Why don't you track him down. Then what will you do to him? Becareful, you will be the one guilty of a crime then.

  • Sarel van Deventer - 2013-05-21 15:21

    Let that be a lesson to bikers. I know its nice to go 200 km/h on a bike but you are putting your self and othets at risk. Think before speeding!

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:34

      Apparently she was doing 147km/h according to the defense team, not 200km/h. How many people have accelerated to 147km/h while overtaking another vehicle? I know it's illegal but it happens millions of times a day. The lesson bikers need to learn from this is to keep a safe following distance and watch out for careless drivers who swerve into their path without warning. I guess the same applies to all road users.

  • Louise Barnard - 2013-05-21 15:35

    They tried to use Carl against Oscar, why was this case taken up again now? Perfect timing right? It was a witch hunt and thankfully they failed, an innocent man has gone free!! Good for you Mr Pistorius!!!!!

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:39

      As I said above, the charges against Carl were re-opened before Oscar shot Reeva to death.

  • Sam Mayihlome - 2013-05-21 15:36

    wish you were here. i bet thats what Lil Oskido is wishing.

  • Louise Barnard - 2013-05-21 15:36

    Nurse Helenk, I see you still at it? Leave these people alone, you don't even know them!!!

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 15:40

      Touche, the same could be said of you dear.

      Ann Padoa - 2013-05-21 23:20

      @Nurse Helenk, why do you hate this family so much? What have they done to you?

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-22 08:40

      Ann where did I say I hate them? Stop putting words into my mouth. I follow and comment on many stories here, doesn't mean I hate everyone involved.

  • FLUFFY8529 - 2013-05-21 15:38

    NOT GUILTY, AWESOME, AM GLAD CARL FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

  • Richard Scully - 2013-05-21 15:43

    I personally believe Oscar is as guilty as charged. I think his character is a bad reference for him and I believe he should not be out on bail

      John Smith - 2013-05-21 18:17

      What you BELIEVE is irrelevant. Only the evidence has bearing on the case.

  • Sam Mayihlome - 2013-05-21 15:44

    hey LX, Pac Shakur is actually a South African with some dozzy psuedo, he can't Pac his bags and f...off.

  • Itumeleng Tshatiwa - 2013-05-21 16:23

    NPA is supposed to strive to put offenders behind bars not the other way round mxm!

  • Louise Barnard - 2013-05-21 16:29

    How do you know?

  • Louise Barnard - 2013-05-21 16:31

    and Nurse Helenk you are the only one who heard about it before the accident, yes i mean when Oscar shot Reeva? I never heard about it in 2008 and I never heard about it before Reeva got shot!

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-21 16:46

      Check your facts my dear. I am right. The case against Carl was re-opened before Oscar shot four bullets through a closed door and killed the love of his life. I'm not making this up. Carl was supposed to go to trial the same week as Oscar's bail hearing but the case was postponed. If you want to take me on, make sure you've done your homework.

  • Maleho Mothabeng - 2013-05-21 17:21

    Aaaah yes June 4th approaching fast so our Fav Family is back on the news again!!

  • Helen Vermeulen McGregor - 2013-05-21 17:29

    What a waste of Tax payers money all because of a vendetta!! At least the truth was heard and evidence heard. I mean really The Colonel saying his measurements were 100% spot on but when taken to scene of accident proved to b totally inaccurate His response Eish my tape measure must be faulty WTF

  • Rob Martin - 2013-05-21 18:23

    Carl who?

  • Zahir - 2013-05-21 20:52

    If u have money then u free to go

  • Dagga Movement - 2013-05-22 06:43

    Again there is no justice for Anene or any women or anyone in court. What a disgrace shame on you South Africa!

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