Cele used pay-outs to get cronies jobs - union

2011-12-01 22:25

Johannesburg - Suspended national police commissioner Bheki Cele had misused his authority by getting rid of police officers in positions earmarked for his friends, the SA Police Union (Sapu) said on Thursday.

"Sapu has always maintained the position that one should not mix politics and the police," general secretary Oscar Skommere said in a statement.

"The abuse of state money was always of great concern for Sapu especially when the national commissioner [Cele] was misusing his authority... to get rid of members in positions which he wants to earmark for other cronies,"

On Wednesday, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said he was investigating a slew of golden handshakes worth R31m given to policemen on Cele's watch.

He told MPs in Parliament that, in an attempt to stop long-running abuse of the police's special pensions system, he had decreed that the national commissioner may no longer award pay-outs without his approval.

Mthethwa's remarks follow controversy last month over a R1.1m pay-out given to former Gauteng crime intelligence chief Joey Mabasa, on top of his pension.

He was one of 19 policemen retrenched under section 35 of the act in the past two financial years. They received pay-outs totalling R31.2m.

Sapu said it regretted that the retrenchments would mean not only a R30m loss to the police budget, but would also have a long term influence on it.

This was because individuals would be remunerated in terms of the section 35 agreement at a much higher rate than normal until retirement.

Mthethwa said he was in the process of scrutinising every successful section 35 application in recent years, not to recover the money but to make sure people had not been released to cover up wrongdoing.

Amendments to the act would be fast-tracked and should reach Cabinet within months.

Cele was suspended by President Jacob Zuma last month over his role in the police headquarters scandal.

Mthethwa told MPs he had the fullest confidence in acting commissioner Lieutenant General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi.

  • Motho - 2011-12-01 22:28

    What is new?

      Clifton - 2011-12-01 22:36

      That was my initial thought Motho: This is hardly news, just ANC regular practice.

      bernpm - 2011-12-01 22:42

      why are the people who pay the bills not surprised any more or start to revolt instead?

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-12-02 07:02

      Which proves my point, here we have a person driven by money and not by a heart to lower crime. He is the same guy responsible for our crime stats and gets big incentives every time they show a decrease. His job is not about programs to make SA a better place, all he does is take part in fraud, manipulate crime reports and lie to the public so he can score extra bucks. I don't trust anything that comes from him or his department. Hope that he'll end up like Malema, farming cows.

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-02 08:35

      We should all just stop paying taxes. I'm so sick and tired of seeing my hard earned tax money go to corrupt politicians!

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 08:56

      @Leonard who's next, this is how he chooses his ministers and chiefs,he goes to the kraals does his dancing donut routine, falls over backward a couple of times because his overbloated stomache unbalances him, climbs on a podium and screams WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONARE

  • Herman - 2011-12-01 22:58

    Verdomde gemors!

      Renny - 2011-12-02 06:54

      Well said, at least he got a new wife out of this whole deal.

  • brett.macdonald1 - 2011-12-01 23:06

    Cadre Deployments must end. This is the result of everywhere it takes place.

  • Jay - 2011-12-01 23:10

    Forget about CORRUPT and CROOKED Bheki Cele for now. Let SARS investigate his Finances. It is actually the INCOMPETENT MINISTER Nathi Mthethwa that also must be FIRED; cause this Maladministration has occurred under HIS Leadership. I REST MY CASE

  • Chris - 2011-12-01 23:18

    Show me an honest and ethical ANC member and I’ll show you a Unicorn!

  • Cookie - 2011-12-01 23:26

    Wow what a weird world !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob - 2011-12-01 23:27

    This is the same as theft at the end of the day...Charge him, lock him up!

  • Nikki - 2011-12-01 23:36

    What the f is going on? First Jackie Selebi was sentenced to 15 years prison, disgracefully fired from Interpol (what a fantastic poster for SA to the rest of the world!) and replaced by this BARELY a year later from when Jackie was sentenced...this guy is suspended ALSO for corruption...and these are supposed to be the very people that protect the rest of us from crime? WTF!!?? seems the prerequisite in SA for being the Police boss has gone from HONEST, LOYAL and corrupt, deceitful and rotten...which of your disgusting cadres are next in line to pillage, hey ANC? God help SA!

      jannie.beirowski - 2011-12-02 03:44

      And you must be a pal of Zuma, don't forget that!

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2011-12-02 07:43

      And Cele suspended...on full pay of course. What would that be, about 150K per month?

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 09:02

      All around the world the motto of law enforcement is PROTECT and SERVE here in republic de banana it is COVER UP AND STEAL

  • Lucille - 2011-12-01 23:42

    Were all the rest before Jackie and Cele honest......?????

      Jay - 2011-12-01 23:57

      Probably Not, But definitely NOT AS DAFT and CORRUPT

      John - 2011-12-02 06:09

      Don't come with this pathetic argument! it's immaterial of who where there and what they did ....but suffice to say, apartheid police chiefs never stole on this grand scale if they stole at all. They were still policeman to the core and not some clown parading in his garish clothes and hats like a right idiot. It's your brand of BS fueling the feeding frenzy of these vermin as in essence, you are condoning their actions with your pathetic views!

      Van - 2011-12-02 06:20

      Most probably yes. They were all police officers that came through the ranks. If you look where they stay and their lifestyle you'll see they didn't earn/stole millions. Not some low life that is only there because he knows showerhead.

      Makhosazane - 2011-12-02 09:59

      Good point Lucille - the only difference is during that time the media was not allowed to report on it....

  • Elsbeth - 2011-12-02 01:18

    Waar gaan alles eindig???

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 09:06

      Die diewe gaan eers die land vrot steel dan gaan hulle mekaar opvreet

  • khutso.b - 2011-12-02 01:23

    why must politicians always head top posts in the country?. They all want to advance thier selfish interests.. it seems "ethical" to be corrupt in the political industry

      francois.delange - 2011-12-02 06:09

      Khutso, answer is simple. Appoint politicians to these posts and you control the money!

      thupanamaina - 2011-12-02 10:17

      They all learnt from the master, none other than the potatoe head JZ. LOL

  • Motho - 2011-12-02 01:43

    @bernpm, when I said what is new, I never meant that I support what happened but why people don't face consequences for their actions!

      John - 2011-12-02 06:34

      Ian - December 2, 2011 at 05:35 That rug is already looking like Table Mountain under its cloth!!

  • Roy - 2011-12-02 05:22

    Now they have every reason to go after Cele and let him pay back all the monies that he stole by giving jobs to his pals. Take him to court and let him face the music.

      Ian - 2011-12-02 05:35

      oh please, as if, more corruption will be swept under the very full rug

  • Ian - 2011-12-02 05:34

    nothing new here, its the anc way

  • Dirk - 2011-12-02 05:38

    The march of the corrupt, thieves and the evil continues. But the goose which lays the golden eggs, is dying. What then?

  • francois.delange - 2011-12-02 06:07

    Zuma should take responsibility for this. He appointed his buddy from KZN!

      George - 2011-12-02 06:58

      Change KZN to BUSH please

  • Roy - 2011-12-02 06:44

    What a bunch of thieves we have running this country and there is just no end to it. From the "President" down they steal in some form or other to enrich themselves and when caught they use the law to "protect" them while being investigated. This country is F----d while the ANC is running it and because their voters are to stupid to realise this they and everyone else will suffer.

  • malcolm - 2011-12-02 06:49

    The majority in South Africa voted for these ANC morons. They will suffer most.

  • Dewdawn - 2011-12-02 06:54

    Ah well then, here is another charge to be brought against JZ for bringing the ANC into disrepute again. Wonder when his re-deployment will happen?

  • George - 2011-12-02 06:57

    Zuma, stop. You have made too many fu@k up now. The whole world is laughing at you. Do you not think about thing before you do or say things or do words just fall out of the empty space into you mouth. ADVICE. Let people think you are stupid than open mouth and confirm

  • Dave - 2011-12-02 07:00

    Just another ANC thief using his position to pad his wallet and enrich his friends - no surprise here. When this example is set at the very top we cannot be surprised when every other ANC Executive member also believes he can steal, cheat and lie his way to untold riches. The gravy train is speeding along at wxpress speed with Zuma in control.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 12:35

      but it's starting to run out of tracks heading for derailment pity it is not an express

  • braamc - 2011-12-02 07:07

    Absolute surprise and shock, who would have though. The po*s is still drawing a salary off course. ANC incompetence and lack of leadership, effective and accountable management procedures. Off course he falls well into the corrupt category, just didn't make it that long

  • Oceanh - 2011-12-02 07:25

    the only way to rid South Afric of this type of curruption would be to impliment a law that states, two opposition party's shadow ministers need to sign the documents off.

      PB - 2011-12-02 08:12

      Oceanh, that makes so much sense. I also think that every one on suspention or awaiting court cases, should be paid on a sliding scale. The longer they drag these out with b.s. postponements, the smaller % of their ill-gotten salaries should be paid out. Also, if they are to pay for their own court cases, instead of draining our taxmonies ( the drunk racist judge, Robert McBride, Selebe their cases would be finalised in a matter of weeks instead of years - with the accompanying savings for the tax payer. If they are found to be innocent and it was honestly workrelated - then reimburse him, not the other way round.

  • Fidel - 2011-12-02 07:36

    Had these people been stealing paper clips, I'd be willing to accept that this wasn't about the financial gain of it all. Instead, They take millions of Rands of taxpayer money.

  • J.D. - 2011-12-02 08:17

    2 Commissioners = 2 criminals. Well done dear Jacob well done ANC another nail in the coffin. There ARE lots of black people who will apply their minds in the next election.

  • Patrick - 2011-12-02 08:34

    It warms my heart to know that my hard earned tax money is being put to such good use. I am finally coming to grips with what "UBUNTU" means.

      Fidel - 2011-12-02 09:28

      I came to grips what western civilisation meant many moons ago.

  • Jerhone - 2011-12-02 08:45

    hang the ANC skelm

  • TheWatcher - 2011-12-02 09:12

    Why are so many people against the info bill? The reason is that it gets through we'll never hear of things like this again, they'll still happen but we won't hear of them...

  • Lida - 2011-12-02 09:16

    What a farce

  • Mashudu - 2011-12-02 09:33

    "This hands are clean" Selebi said. Are your Hands Clean too Cele? I doubt it.

  • Deeteem - 2011-12-02 09:50

    If there are two okies who deserved to be behind bars it is Nathi and Bheki !!

  • Johnnie - 2011-12-02 09:51

    So back we come to the man who put Bheki Cele in charge of the police. The man was not fit for the job.How do you use a man that does not know anything about policing, and then on top of it he becomes general.If he was not there all this nonsense would not have been there.He should pay that money back or go and keep the previous chief of police company if he goes to the place where he may be taught discipline.

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 12:42

      hey when we were in the army, we battled our a*ses of to become lowley corporals, nowadays Showerhead looks out at his garden sees his garden boys and makes them generals or ministers

  • ludlowdj - 2011-12-02 10:01

    Time for our boys in blue to realize that no matter how honest and upright they are personally, the corruption within the police force taints them all

  • Bokfan - 2011-12-02 10:03

    What a foul nest of criminals

  • Cheryl - 2011-12-02 10:27

    And we trust this government? hahahahahahahaa...

  • Jacqui - 2011-12-02 10:44

    Another one!!!! How many more?.

  • Nick - 2011-12-02 10:50

    The ANC claims that they represent the people of SA, Not True! In the last Local Government elections, of the 22 677 881 registered voters only 8 143 397 voted for the ANC, 5 210 590 voted against the ANC and 9 323.894 abstained. Thus the ANC represents 36% of the population therefore this is not majority rule, so where is democracy?

      Lucky - 2011-12-02 11:33

      of those that voted , the majority voted ANC.thats proportinal represantation and it is democracy based on the assumption that those who did not vote would have followed the pattern that was set.Get those who abstained to vote next time maybe the figures will be different.

  • William - 2011-12-02 12:12

    Bent coppers!!! Gotta love em!!

  • gary.jurgens - 2011-12-02 12:18

    Its the GRAVE!

  • Anton - 2011-12-02 14:26

    seleby is going to get the cell ready for the two of them so they can discuss how they got caught so quick

  • ptmogala - 2011-12-02 15:41

    I have no words.

  • CALAMITYSA - 2012-02-18 07:58

    Mr Cele, please take the opportunity to admit. It will save us all the expenses. Advocates and courts are expensive. Take Roux Shabangu and let him admit with you. refers. There is a way do lease a property. Let somebody explain to you how. There is enough corruption cases, some can only be heard in 2013!! John Block, Malema, Cassel Mathale. I think a special jail should be built for corruption prisoners. Going to need it. I think the Minister of Finance must budget for the expenditure!

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