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Census results a tale of pride, says Zuma

2012-10-30 12:38

Cape Town - President Jacob Zuma officially received the Census 2011 results following a ceremonial handover on Tuesday.

Statistician General Pali Lehohla gave Zuma and guests gathered in Pretoria a brief overview of the results, before Planning Minister Trevor Manuel formally asked Zuma to accept the results.

"This is the tale of our national pride, the South Africa I know, the home I understand, our census report," said Zuma.
The results would play a crucial role in public administration.

"The results are used to ensure equity in the distribution of government services and funds among various regions and districts for basic services," Zuma said.

Gaps

The 2011 Census showed major improvements in the provision of basic services, but indicated there were still huge gaps to be overcome.

"The progress from 1994 to now should be contextualised with the need for quicker service delivery and faster turnaround times," he said.

Migration trends were also important for planning purposes at provincial and municipal level.

"Census results show our people have moved from the Eastern Cape, Northern Cape, and Free State to Gauteng and the Western Cape over the past ten years."

This could possibly be attributed to higher economic activity in these two provinces.

Water, electricity


On access to basic services, Zuma noted nine out of ten South Africans now had access to running water.

From 1996 to 2011 there was a massive jump in the percentage of people using electricity as a main source for cooking from 45% to 73% between 1996 and 2011.

However, the percentage of South Africans using paraffin still stood at around 7.5%.

"We know the dangers of this type of energy, especially for those of us who live in shack settlements."

Toilet facilities


Zuma said the provision of ablution and sanitation facilities would remain a government priority.

"Results reveal that the use of the bucket toilet system has been halved from 3.9% in 2001 to 1.9% in 2011."

Gauteng and the Western Cape had improved on the number of households with access to toilet facilities.

"Eight out of 10 people had access to flushing toilets in these provinces... much effort needs to go to providing toilets in the Eastern Cape, Mpumalanga, Limpopo, and KwaZulu-Natal," he said.

Comments
  • kyle.r.lottering - 2012-10-30 12:45

    I agree that there has been vast improvement in terms of numbers, but after 20 years, the ANC is still trying to put toilets under asses? Its quite patheting, they waste so much as a government and are as greedy horn dog.

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-10-30 13:11

      This could possibly be attributed to higher economic activity in these two provinces. ---------------------------- Or the complete failure of the provinces they migrated from.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:12

      Nice (Vast)improvements to Nkandla as well

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-10-30 13:22

      What does this tell us? Quiet simply that our Government has low standards and expectations. This is way we lack to evolve in Africa.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:57

      whaahaaa @ these stats. Like Scamall's stats - only 2% of the highway users fall into the capped amount category for Toll roads! yeah right!!!! More like 60%!! And guess what - Scamall proposed no reduction for the "2%". Thieves and liars abound!

      kyle.r.lottering - 2012-10-30 14:02

      100likes! I'd like to thank my best friend, Mrs Palmer, she's always been there to relieve me during these troubled times. Haha

      kgahlego.rantho - 2012-10-30 15:00

      It's not 20. It's 18. Start your own party then. Hopefully you'll be the next president and do a better job.

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-30 15:27

      @Kgahlego.Rantho-its actually 20-plus if you take into account that there was a so-called INTERIM TRANSITIONAL AUTHORITY which decided on how government could be run

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-10-31 09:58

      Mr.Prezuma. Thank You for keeping the nation in an uneducated state.

  • frank.vankaapstad - 2012-10-30 12:45

    If you look at the "improvement" in certain percentages, then I guess you can be proud. The fact is that if we had honest competent people in Government and a Government that wasn't corrupt and racist, those percentages would be much much higher.

  • anthro45 - 2012-10-30 12:48

    And pray tell, who paid for this electricity and water and houses and toilets?

      Andrea - 2012-10-30 12:55

      The previously advantaged, of course?

  • louise.weatherby.5 - 2012-10-30 12:49

    We living in two houses on a huge stand were never counted!!!

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-10-30 12:55

      The ENTIRE village of Stanford, population of just over 2000, NOT ONE OF US were counted, except for those living in shacks across the river! Its BULLSiiiit! Al lies!

      Erna - 2012-10-30 12:55

      I know lots of people who weren't counted.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:13

      They still have not collected my census form from me yet...

      khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-10-30 13:13

      you were not counted because you refused them access why didnt you utilised the online option. pathetic and cheap critisicm

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-10-30 14:03

      @Khuliso - go and screw yourself!!! I and dozens of other, went and laid a official complaint against the census commission in Hermanus! They did eff all. They gave us forms and said they would be collected. I work from HOME! Not a single useless idiot arrived! So go and talk rubbish elsewhere!!!!

      aarchaic - 2012-10-30 14:24

      Khuliso.ratshinanga, I was counted in the census and filled in the form but in all honesty i didnt even know there was a Online system you could fill in... I solely follow news online and the bits I listen to the radio in the mornings and afternoons drive to and from work... so what mediums did they use to communicate that to us?

      eil33nn - 2012-10-30 14:35

      There was an online system... O.o But based on the stats of how many people have internet access, its not really a big help...

      typersa.baddy - 2012-10-30 14:40

      @khuliso.ratshinanga - And you are a tutor at UJ. No wonder the education in this country is such a mess!! Dumb idiots like you should not even be allowed to leave your home.

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-30 12:52

    Zuma can digest the census data promptly, but when it comes to stuff about his housing upgrade, crime, slime and all other things rotten - he studies the document for months..........what a f'ing idiot.

      Erna - 2012-10-30 12:55

      Its called "applying his mind".

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:21

      Somtimes It takes longer if the doc is upside down. See??

  • merkwaardig - 2012-10-30 12:53

    With only a third of its citizens who graduated from high school? Roght...

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:50

      like the pres himself!

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-10-30 12:54

    You're proud it took 20 years to only get half way there? Talk about low standards...

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:44

      what legacy of apartheid? The anc inherited and took over a fully functional country, legislated against the whites, and emptied the cookie jar. Now it is the legacy of apartheid? hmmm I think it is the ineptitude and arrogance of Govt.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-30 13:53

      @khuliso. "a south africant" And you are a South Afic_nt

  • Jacques - 2012-10-30 12:54

    For Zuma to say 'those of us who live in shack settlements' is so condesending it's almost laughable. What does he know? He lives in his own town! 200 mil on his house is 4 mil PER PERSON in SA- I'm white and even if you sell everything my family owns, house included, you'll never even get 2 million. Fact is, this tribalist dictator is really grating my balls with such comments while his actions are so far removed from what he says. Delete this comment if you will, N24, doesn't change the fact. #JacquesOut

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:45

      N24 loves to 'censor' anti Govt posts. ... You gotta love the Pres .. "those of us who live in shack...." I presume he refers to himself and his little Nkandla shack and dirt road?

      pranesh.sewkumar.1 - 2012-10-30 13:47

      Sorry how do you get R4 million per person? Are there only 50 people in SA? It is more like R4 per person

      marc.klynhans - 2012-10-30 15:11

      Ye - it's only R4 per person... R4.88 to be a bit more accurate.

      Jacques - 2012-10-30 15:30

      Haha, that's what happens when you make comments 15 mins before chemisty exam papers! 4 bucks a person... Sort of blows my argument out of the water

  • Andrea - 2012-10-30 12:54

    A first world country census would reveal that x% have qualified as teashers, doctors, rocket scientists, etc. In SA we have to listen to how many people still crap in a bucket.

      netswera.livhuwani - 2012-10-30 13:03

      why dont u go asist do the census yourself as you sound like an expert

      Andrea - 2012-10-30 13:16

      netswera, I am convinced that hundreds of readers here would LOVE to assist with a PROPER census, however your cadres simply won't believe us when we tell them their count is fundamentally flawed, and therein lies the problem. Might I also add that not a single person in my household was counted and from reading these and other related posts, it seems there are plenty of us. So I guess the fact that I have a flushing toilet or two or three really makes no difference.

      ntobeko.mhlongo - 2012-10-30 13:37

      This is not a first world country

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:46

      not even a 3rd world country.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:48

      the census stats are misleading, and can be presented in any way the Govt likes to try to look credibles. You have to compare apples with apples if you want to read something into them.

      andre.esterhuysen.9 - 2012-10-30 13:57

      Netswera - this is a 1 world country. If something like this made up stats gets you excited. Go to Canada . Your un-south African attitude can go stink there where we don't care.

      andre.esterhuysen.9 - 2012-10-30 14:00

      The census is faked as a sham to attract investors so the government can line pockets and then blame apartheid for the poor people in South Africa while they go and have 3mil rand holidays with tax payer money and turn a blind eye

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 14:01

      @Andre .. sorry for you boet - in a 1st world country, the Govt acts as servants to the nation, improving the lot of the people. They are accountable to the electorate and the law. You are seriously confused if you think this is even close to a 1st world country! How can one even believe a single word that the anc utters in SA?

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-30 12:59

    DA will soon run Gauteng too and then we will see the difference.

      Jacques - 2012-10-30 13:11

      If the DA could nip Gauteng soon enough, I'll have my faith is this place restored. Come ooonnn people vote DA!!

      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 13:51

      I guess we shall c about that

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:54

      you gonna get uneducated people voting for an improvement in their lives? nah - not in Africa!

  • mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 13:03

    Lol JACOB please man PLEEEAAASSSE!

      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-10-30 13:57

      \PRIDE\ my paralysed left foot

  • jlushaba - 2012-10-30 13:04

    Once again Western Cape leads...... I know most will say m wrong its Gauteng. Well Gauteng is the Capital.........

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:15

      Vote for an Independant western Cape NOW Immediately. Up for Yes Down for no. Apply your minds to this please ......Now Not Nooit.

  • jlushaba - 2012-10-30 13:06

    Once again Western Cape leads...... I know most will say m wrong its Gauteng. Well Gauteng is the Capital.........

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:25

      Stick around Soon Cape town will be the capital of The independant wealthy western Cape.

  • busani.mabunda - 2012-10-30 13:06

    i told them to F@@ck Offffff ... take the spy.sus and shove it up your @ss .... another bunch of LIES intended to fool the poor.

  • johan.wilsnach - 2012-10-30 13:09

    51 mil minus ?????????? illegal immigrants. this is possibly the pride Zuma is talking about. I hope this will not haunt you soon.

  • DJedgar57 - 2012-10-30 13:10

    We should run a census on the amount of people that were not counted. I can imagine its a difficult job counting everyone in a country but is it so hard to maybe make a public announcement to those who were not counted to make it known. Such a small effort for a system that changes the outcome of our country

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-30 13:43

      ME!!! and at least 150 homes on the gated estate where I live. Thinking, what about the people away on holiday or business? Do they take an estimate? I wonder if Zuma reads his speech before he utters these statements to the press? COMPREHENSION sir, that is the basis of education, you have to understand what you are reading/saying.......where is the national pride in the fact that the population has grown so rapidly, and that the poverty has now reached crisis proportions? You need to look at the 'dumps' in the towns and see the hundreds of people who search through the trash, who eat tainted food, and who are fed by our local charities at our expense.....

  • louissouthafrica - 2012-10-30 13:12

    Great to see the Western Cape excelling. Gauteng will improve, due to it holding the financial power. Where the DA is in charge, you see progress. All the cANCer provinces mentioned, are going down the drain. Still JZ is proud. Go figure.

  • Pete7930 - 2012-10-30 13:12

    A year later and the pencil stats have been altered?? Mr President gets to choose the outcome again. Congrats on the results Mr President, well played.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:49

      election games , at a cost to the taxpayer

  • alaina.robbertse - 2012-10-30 13:13

    You have nothing to be proud of.You are trying to score voters.It is worsre in SA the 18 years ago.

      tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-10-30 13:46

      i agree

  • andrew.mckenzie.566 - 2012-10-30 13:13

    Ah! His Excellency The Right Honourable Jacob Zuma rides again.(Thanks to the Black Management Forum for this fabulous title!).The band played "Believe it if You Like".

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-10-30 13:17

    I ask you, quoth President Zuma Why you regard as a tumour The cash liquidation Of our burgeoning nation When I've told you it's only a rumour? Dear Pres, when you call it a rumour, It's a great deal more grave than a tumour. You've taxed till it aches Your subjects. God's sakes! There's nothing remains but one's humour.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:39

      brilliant!~

  • joe.whiteman.9 - 2012-10-30 13:18

    @netswera Why dont you shut your disadvantaged mouth !!!!

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-30 13:20

    Census based on race not on people, so what is the big deal?

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-30 17:24

      With some people everything is about race.

  • gert.theunissen.3 - 2012-10-30 13:30

    Give this door knob something, he really is brilliant in ignorance and stupidity or get rid of this idiot. "National pride" WTF !!!!

  • susan.pretorius.31 - 2012-10-30 13:34

    Still waiting for the sensus guys...

  • alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:35

    Tch Tch - there goes N24 deleting posts for pointing of precisely what the statistics are meaningless and can be distorted to represent whatever the ruling party wants to portray. Nice N24 ... such an unbiased forum! Have you got the President's men reading over your shoulders?

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-30 13:46

      All the presidents Men

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:52

      all the kinds whorses and all the kings men... couldnt put humpty together again

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-10-30 13:45

    You think its all about water and sanitation?Your own people are still earning far less than their white counterpart and you are busy building New Nkandla, to think that i have voted for you - i feel disgusted and one thing for sure, should you ever come back a leader after Mangaung you are not going to have my vote.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 14:02

      or mine!

  • modesta.amin - 2012-10-30 13:50

    AFTER 300 years of COLONIALISM, POST-COLONIALISM, APARTHEID, POST -APARTHEID TRAUMA, I WOULD SAY SA IS PROGRESSING QUITE WELL, except greedy leaders who misuse public funds for their own greedy, selfish endeavors. SA does not need politicians, it needs conscious citizens.

  • Shaun Daly - 2012-10-30 13:52

    A tale of pride for the DA. Anyone who reads even these doctored stats and doesn't think the ANC has had its innings should lose their vote. And be neutered.

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-10-30 13:53

    Crap. Its all about quality not quantity.

  • vaughan.lund - 2012-10-30 13:54

    Actually read a bit of it and the numbers in the tables don't even add up. So you can imagine what utter garbage is in the Census.

  • piet.lombard.5 - 2012-10-30 13:56

    Remember a lot of them is Little Showaheads!!!!!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-30 13:57

      that be 'drips'?

  • jola.jose.7 - 2012-10-30 13:59

    Did the census say anything about inkandla

  • sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-30 14:08

    Revealed nothing new-just a waste of money into the ZOOLOO.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-10-30 14:11

    Yes number higher - due to open boarders. Unemployment of black higher - due to open boarders. So the numbers are higher, but most of the hospitals and services are in absolute chaos. The results are used to ensure equity in the distribution of government services and funds among various regions and districts for basic services," Zuma said. Now where is the equility and equity in that kind of mentality? The scales are unbalanced. It spells disaster, but you zuma call it a national pride! Honestly?

  • talana.malherbe - 2012-10-30 14:15

    Pride....Zuma.....NOPE the two words can't be used in one sentence.

  • craig.thom.376 - 2012-10-30 14:15

    Quick percentage gains are easy from a low base

  • henk.venter.754 - 2012-10-30 14:18

    ja zuma, services will only be installed in NKANDLA! and money distributed to those in the anc clan!

  • theuns.barnardt - 2012-10-30 14:20

    Have a look on page 71 Table 3.8 2 073 591 + 64 191 + 8 180 + 16 718 + 15 874 + ---------- 2 178 554 ---------- 2,178,554 not 1,962,949 they cant even use Excel http://www.statssa.gov.za/Census2011/Products/Census_2011_Census_in_brief.pdf

  • steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-10-30 15:25

    Of course there will be a massive jump in people using electricity when one considers all the illegal connections and the fact that someone else has to pay for it via unaccounted revenue against power produced and now it is going up a further 16%. I would also use more if I could enjoy the same deal.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-30 16:00

    When ever Zuma opens his mouth, we get a load of drivel.

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-10-30 16:11

    Shame, the head man is proud! But I wander why? What is it that I am missing in the census results?

  • godfrex.khumalo - 2012-10-30 16:43

    'tale of pride' wht is that? we must b proud whn we c equality on salaries, when all has flushing toilets. its too early to be proud

  • waldo.adams.5 - 2012-10-30 19:48

    Where can we get the full 2011 census report?

      theuns.barnardt - 2012-10-31 21:05

      http://www.statssa.gov.za/Census2011/Products/Census_2011_Census_in_brief.pdf

  • dave.clark.98622 - 2012-10-31 12:27

    chances r the statistic s report is not accurate,most of the repor there is cookedso 50% of tat report could b a sham.ANC should work nt start concentrating on the stats report its un relaible for sure.

  • dave.dejager1 - 2012-11-01 12:47

    the ANC is simply a massive failure to the people of south africa! the boys at the top are living like kings! JACOB ZUMA been the worst!if this banana government keeps been racist and self serving as they are now!,the future i'm afraid to say is bleak for all of us!

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