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Chaos on Joburg roads as strike continues

2012-09-27 11:30

Johannesburg - Three people were injured in protests by striking truck drivers in Ekurhuleni, east of Johannesburg, on Thursday morning, metro police said.

"We are on high alert with our officers. We are patrolling railway stations, bridges over freeways and we are patrolling industrial sites," said Mokheseng.

"We are working with the SA Police Service, because we noticed yesterday [Wednesday] we had our hands full."

"Up to now we can say three people [have] sustained injuries following truck protests around 07:00," said Inspector Kobeli Mokheseng.

"There were calls coming in on Thursday morning that on the R21 to Pretoria, one light delivery vehicle was burned, and truckers stoned two trucks."

He said the R21 north to Pretoria, opposite OR Tambo International Airport, was closed.

"The R24 is affected going east and, if you are on the R21 going towards Pretoria, it is affected up to Griffiths Road offramp," said Mokheseng.

"We are diverting traffic from East Rand Mall heading to Pretoria and... directing it on to the Griffiths Road offramp."

Traffic on the R24 was also being redirected from Barbara Road.

Deadlocked

"No arrests have been made. Police are dealing with the situation as it is happening," he said.

Meanwhile, wage negotiations between the Road Freight Employers' Association (RFEA) and unions remained deadlocked.

Meanwhile, the Road Freight Employers' Association (RFEA) and unions remained deadlocked in wage negotiations.

RFEA spokesperson Magretia Brown-Engelbrecht said the situation had not changed since Wednesday.

"We have committed ourselves to being available for further talks. Nothing has been forthcoming thus far and we shall see where we go," she said.

"We are hopeful that between today [Thursday] and tomorrow [Friday] we can get the process going again."

The unions involved are the SA Transport and Allied Workers' Union (Satawu), the Professional Transport and Allied Workers' Union SA (PTAWUSA), the Transport and Allied Workers' Union of SA (TAWU) and the Motor Transport Workers' Union (MTWU).

Rejected

PTAWUSA road freight co-ordinator Puncho Ndevu confirmed that the situation remained unchanged on Thursday, with unions in discussions among themselves regarding the next step forward.

About 20 000 workers in the road freight transport sector have been on strike over wages since Monday.

Unions have reverted to a 12% pay demand after rejecting a lower offer tabled by employers on Tuesday.

The RFEA had proposed a staggered increase of 8.5% effective from March, and a further 0.5% from September next year.

Brown-Engelbrecht said in a statement on Wednesday the RFEA had expected an agreement to be signed on Monday.

She said unions and employers had adjourned on Saturday having reached an in-principle agreement on the RFEA's offer, which the unions then rejected on Tuesday.

Comments
  • kala.bafazi - 2012-09-27 11:33

    Stuff water cannons. Bring in G5 or two. Problem solved.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-09-27 11:34

      Assuming of course that we still have any left and they haven't "gone missing" from the SANDF inventories.

      brad.herbert.522 - 2012-09-27 11:44

      Yip, they went missing. Distribution of wealth!!

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-27 11:49

      Sold, scrap metel

      ludlowdj - 2012-09-27 11:55

      don't need either, 100 strikers blocking a road VS a 20+ ton truck _ guess who wins hands down every time while reducing striker numbers at the same time.

      JaredVN - 2012-09-27 12:07

      Agree - shoot these useless, lazy, criminal "wêkkas." Millions of the unemployed are waiting to replace these useless parasites.

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-27 12:14

      Do the trojan horse on them. .55 Brownings sides and rear should take out a few thousand.

      nathan.g.moss - 2012-09-27 13:42

      Where are the policed from Marikana? They know how to disperse a crowd, grated they did disperse the crowd over several graveyards.

      heathway.master - 2012-09-28 12:29

      Bill of Rights - Section 17: Everyone has right to peacefully, and unarmed, to assemble to demonstrate, picket, and present petitions. Anyone participating in a violent strike destroying the property of others, can be legally arrested and charged under the criminal laws of the country. Section 23: Every worker has the right to strike. Section 36(1) Limitation of Rights: The rights in the Bill of rights may be limited in terms of the law of general application, to the extent that the limitation is reasonable and justifiable in an open and democratic society. i.e. Due to the violent and destructive nature of strikes, and their harm to the economy of SA, my suggestions that strikers should be forbidden to take to the streets in violent mass demonstrations can easily be legislated if the Government decides to follow this route.

  • petrus.ngwenya.3 - 2012-09-27 11:36

    Anyone else think this violence is a result of the Marikana affair? How you "deserve" more money the more things you break, the more people are intimidated?

  • grant.n.dickie - 2012-09-27 11:37

    THESE STRIKERS DONT EVEN DESERVE A JOB NEVER MIND AN INCREASE. WHY MUST STRIKERS ALWAYS RESORT TO VIOLENCE.BRING THE MARIKANA COPS HERE ,THEY WILL SORT IT OUT

  • theo.martinez.980 - 2012-09-27 11:39

    send in the army!

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-27 11:50

      What army, they are next

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 13:42

      The army's either sleeping, or having lunch at KFC.

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-09-27 11:39

    and the BLAME GAME BEGINS, how many more lives and damaged to property before this carnage stops. A lot of the drivers who get targetted are OWNERS of their own trucks not companies. They are contracted out and are are affiliated to the strike.

  • zane.jacobsen - 2012-09-27 11:40

    cant they stone and burn each other ???

  • andre.burrows.92 - 2012-09-27 11:41

    Still struggling comrades?

  • ilze.burger3 - 2012-09-27 11:44

    We are incentivising this behaviour in SA! Ridiculous as it may seem! The whole country is being held to randsom with this kind of action.....

  • heathway.master - 2012-09-27 11:48

    Before striking cripples and damages our economy, I feel the Government should honour the Constitution and allow workers to strike, but they must strike through their unions holding negotiation with employers. All mass gatherings should be banned and prohibited by the law. Keep all trouble makers off the streets, and confined to their homes. This would be in keeping with the Constitution and stop the present rule by violent destructive, angry and incited frequently armed mobs. Let them settle wage disputes in a civilised and Democratic manner.

      jack.winters.18 - 2012-09-27 12:11

      All very well but these are ANC VOTERS you are talking about so the Gov won't shoot itself in the foot by doing anything about striking "workers" (There's a euphemism if ever there was one). It is inherent in black "culture" to smash everything to show your displeasure. Asking another black to change this culture is like asking the river Nile to flow uphill.

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 13:45

      What you say is quite correct. Only problem is, the mobs don't know what "civilised and democratic" mean. The mining strikes were all illegal; they don't care a hoot for law and order.

  • gnoise.prod - 2012-09-27 11:52

    we are becoming a country of strikes and chaos each & every day

  • jaco.nel.5030 - 2012-09-27 11:53

    They won’t stop until this is just another African country, wrecked and in ruins. At least there is always the white scapegoat, so they don’t have to take any responsibility either.

  • raynard.looch - 2012-09-27 11:54

    Incredibly no arrests have been made......

  • heini.botes - 2012-09-27 11:55

    It's time for the police and army to step in, and if another 44 people are shot dead then so be it. This absolute barbaric acts of violence cannot, must not be tolerated anymore. If you cannot strike peacefully and like a civilized human being then you must except the consequences!! The days that these strikers holds South Africa ransom must come to an end. Period!

  • louanne.marion.3 - 2012-09-27 11:55

    These ignorant idiots will continue and it will get worse...... know why ??? because they get away with it time and time again. And so we go on and on on on on till we have a new government which by the way wont happen in our life time !!!!!!!!!!

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-27 11:55

    Shoot the vermin!

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-09-28 09:44

      Kill Kill Kill!

  • Notrax123 - 2012-09-27 11:59

    "We are working with the SA Police Service, because we noticed yesterday [Wednesday] we had our hands full." Wow, what computer told you that? "Up to now we can say three people [have] sustained injuries following truck protests around 07:00," said Inspector Kobeli Mokheseng. "No arrests have been made. Police are dealing with the situation as it is happening," he said. Less KFC, less Mc Donalds, maybe upholding of the laws regarding illegal strikes, public violence, damage to public property, being politicaly independent, etc

  • toni.falletisch - 2012-09-27 12:04

    Let's have a civil war and be done with it!

      richard.bosmano - 2012-09-27 14:47

      I know the Geneva Convention will prevent us from executing anc member POWS,but what does the convention say on sterilising male/female anc POWS? After the war we want their opinion to fade away with them,forever.

  • tshilidzijustice.mphara - 2012-09-27 12:07

    I thnk the employers was surppose to learn frm marikana,are the waiting for people to die so that they can respond

      Brad - 2012-09-27 12:08

      Let's hope so.

      Badger - 2012-09-27 12:24

      Yip, I say shoot the mother f******ers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Xavier7034 - 2012-09-27 12:59

      Bring on the Sur-posse!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-27 12:09

    This was expected! The message has been sent: "strike,cause as much mayhem and chaos as possible,you will get your increase",when they alllowed the Marikan chaos to continue for as long as they did!!!!! Fire their sorry a&&es!

  • Warren Mudge - 2012-09-27 12:14

    With every citizen having a cell phone, all equipped with a camera, one would think that there must be some evidence showing the ugly mugs of these law breakers to make some kind of arrest. They are even clearly identifiable on TV footage. Is this what the ANC ( Zuma, Mothlante ) desires, anarchy? The police just watch all that is happening and do nothing, they even smile at people getting injured and property being damaged. Maybe a police officer should get injured, just to get them to do something, the useless sods. Cry the beloved country, anarchy rules.

  • Badger - 2012-09-27 12:23

    Meanwhile, wage negotiations between the Road Freight Employers' Association (RFEA) and unions remained deadlocked. Meanwhile, the Road Freight Employers' Association (RFEA) and unions remained deadlocked in wage negotiations. "Who Proof Reads This ???" Think you need a new proof reader !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-09-27 12:23

    I'm trying to understand how the strikers see this as being productive. How would they feel if I went to their houses and set them on fire and destroyed their property just so that I can get an increase that I probably haven't earned in the first place. Marikana has set a dangerous precedent. The Another National Crisis party has once again created a powder keg situation that will no doubt spread to other industries and really inspire confidence in our overseas investors. Why does the ANC do this ? It's like they see the best treatment for cANCer as doing sweet F ALL and hoping it just goes away..

  • neutedop.opinie - 2012-09-27 12:25

    They must go to Alrode - it is the Wild West!!! Drivers being shot, trucks being stoned. PE had a vehicle petrol bombed. F@cking animals!

  • gary.desousa.7 - 2012-09-27 12:26

    Once again the savage majority feels their rights are more important than others. Destroy the economy,block roads to airports, disrupt normal peoples lives.

  • collins.nkuna - 2012-09-27 12:26

    I don't blame the striking truck drivers because they are demading a living wage,life is increasingly becoming expensive,the high inflation of food,petrol ,tollgates and the rerently reintroduction of etolling are affecting the life of ordinary citizens.People should not blame the government ,they should blame the empployers,there is only one way to get what they demand,its through violence and nothing else,,,

      clifford.smith.za - 2012-09-27 12:38

      Collins you are a dumba$$ to think that employers are to blame for high fuel prices and tollgates. Where have you had your head these last few months ..... probably where the sun don't shine. So catch a wake up and have a good look around you befor you sprout crap like that again.

      Tim Elliott - 2012-09-27 12:42

      There is a frightening lack of understanding of business and economics among so many black South Africans.The culture of 'we demand' and 'we are entitled to' underpins' Economic Freedom' which,guaranteed,will reduce SA to another Zimbabwe.Lots to then look fwd to...80% unemployment for starters!

      alex.marshall.944023 - 2012-09-27 12:55

      So if the employers demand their workers to get back to work through violence, then it's also ok? Price of petrol, cost of food, etolling and inflation is controlled by the government, but we must not blame them? The employers don't raise these prices, they are as affected by these costs. But sure, let's demand a salary hike that the company can't afford, eventually shut it down and then there will be no wage at all, nevermind a living one! Your ignorance is irritating.

      Warren Mudge - 2012-09-27 13:33

      Hey Collins where are you sitting as you promote violence. Safely ensconced at your desk no doubt, shouting the odds from the sidelines, as long as it is not you who is partaking hey. You lily livered ingrate, I wish it was your family who were stoned, maybe then you will have a shift of attitude. You and your ilk are the reason that you see some of the comments posted here. (African default mode, destroy, destroy, destroy-all that the white man has done in Africa, please we beg of you, grant us blacks our desire to go back to the dark ages) What a nail on the head comment.

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 14:07

      That's why you will never be referred to as a civilised human being...

      heathway.master - 2012-09-27 14:22

      Mr Collins-NKUNU, I have not yet read what the Truck Drivers earn at present, but in the case of the rock drillers R12500 a month wage demand, this would then according to Statistics SA, put them in the top 20% of wage earners in SA, and be earning a salary 7 times higher than the average income of 75% of SA. Considering these facts, it is rather an ill informed statement of yours that these down trodden people deserve to be paid a living wage, and not to be so terribly exploited as you so vehemently claim. I know that your comment is going to be that no one should be earning such low wages in the first place. Any worker gets wages related to the skills he brings to the organization. To end, I am surrounded by thousands upon thousands of highly successful and very rich, highly skilled blacks. If Apartheid has doomed the black nation to eternal purgatory, how did these successful blacks mange to rise above abject poverty?

      jaba.kov - 2012-09-28 06:33

      I blame the ANC for Sanral & E-Toll making my bread and milk expensive. I Blame the ANC for expansive food. I blame the ANC for violent striking truck drivers and/or miners. I blame the ANC for the worst education system on planet earth. I blame the ANC for failing to deliver on anything of importance with the exception of great BMW sales figures. I blame the ANC for not placing blatant racist like Malema in their place years ago (for there is no place for racism in our country). I blame South Africans for cutting their nose to spite their face and voting ANC over and over again even though we all know that the opposition – any opposition party - would do a better job at running the tip of Africa. Absolute power corrupt absolutely. The ANC are absolutely corrupt.

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-09-27 12:31

    Revolution will be televised - i am happy people are now taking the fight to the street - fight for what is right

      Tim Elliott - 2012-09-27 12:38

      Tshepo What is yr idea on 'revolution' and 'what is right'?Destruction of property and savage killing?Wake Up and think about what u are saying!

      clifford.smith.za - 2012-09-27 12:41

      And destry everything in your path. I suppose you will be happy if these striking mobs walked down your street and set your house alight. But then on the other hand you will be happy abt that too cos then you can also stand in line for a hand out.

      Warren Mudge - 2012-09-27 13:01

      Tshepo, may one of your loved ones get in the way of a stray bullet and be struck down in this revolution you so desire. Maybe then it will not be so glorious in your confused, polluted mind. But then maybe you do not value life like civilised people do so it will not matter to you if you lose a child or a mother or brother, you sick commie loser.

      ndumiso.ndlovu.752 - 2012-09-27 13:53

      yes people must fight for their rights(blacks)coz only whites are getting rich everyday

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-09-27 14:10

      "The people" are fighting their own government. It's like a pack of wild dogs tearing up a carcass. You are tearing up the country Mandela and others fought for.

      riad.mahomed - 2012-09-27 14:31

      @tshepo.maganedisa & ndumiso.ndlovu.752: If I may, have you ever sat and pondered on the very same question why it’s only the so called whites that are getting rich every day. You’d be surprised that the key to their success 18yrs after apartheid is the very key that the majority of us South African’s should posse and that is education. Of course there are those that did benefit from the past era but majority of them educated themselves and worked hard for what they achieved, so in essence what I’m try to get across, education has no racial restriction therefore it’s not a white or black thing it a “what do you want to become and achieve thing”.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-27 12:45

    Mob Rule… Umm, just like our ANC Government.

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-09-27 12:45

    With all the crap that has happened and currently happening in this pathetic 3rd world going on 4th hellhole of a country,I've come to the conclusion that SA blacks are the most useless,shiftless and dumbest creatures in the entire universe and that only God could love them. It's obvious He must like them cos He's made so many of them. They are His cruel little joke on white kind.............bottom line.

      mrhendzo.mathonsi - 2012-09-27 16:27

      i personally think u way out of line, coz if blacks r that dumb n u generalize all blacks, then u still in da past, for that u mst cum in da present n c how many blacks r doing it wthout any corrupt or dodgy ways. U really nid a mind shift or else u gna end-up like them... Shame on u if u dnt knw we hve alot of whites, coloureds n indians freight drivers.. This is Africa, adapt or ship-out, Period.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-09-28 00:44

      SA whites are bright? Lol

  • tjaart.j.rensburg - 2012-09-27 12:52

    Civil unrest enmass is imminent. ARE YOU READY???

  • byron.price.921 - 2012-09-27 12:52

    My daughters car was stoned on the highway near Emporers palace. She had her 18 month old twins with her. Luckily they escaped injury. If they had been injured in any way, I would have armed myself and shot the perpertrators, with no regrad to myself.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-09-27 14:39

      If only...too bad u wnt have an excuse. Anyway, u wudnt last a nyt in Sun-city.

  • Peter - 2012-09-27 12:56

    This lot don't want to work. Collective bargaining just means that those who actually do want to strive to work hard and better themselves are drowned our by the intimidation of the unions based Marx

  • Peter - 2012-09-27 13:01

    This lot don't want to work. Collective bargaining just means that those who actually do want to strive to work hard and better themselves are drowned our by the intimidation of the unions based Marx

      luvo.luvos - 2012-09-27 13:16

      That's rich coming from you. It must be understood that your people don't have to resort to strike action to get their dues. I guess you do a socio-economic study and perhaps you'll understand why most black people have to resort to violent strikes to get what is a decent wages to support themselves

  • toni.falletisch - 2012-09-27 13:10

    Withhold tax for every day you cannot operate properly. F..ck them!

  • koos.hendriks.1 - 2012-09-27 13:15

    MMMMM..... its worse now than before 1994..... And slapgat zuma sal ook fo@kol doen nie!!

  • john.kirkwood.9619 - 2012-09-27 13:28

    get the marikana cops out.

  • elsje.botha - 2012-09-27 13:28

    Let them revolt. Let them strike, plunder, break, stone, burn and kill. In the end, they will have nothing left, and they will come empty handed to the civilised to help them, to feed and house and clothe them. And if they find that the civilised have left the country, let them not be surprised. Barbaric idiots. Let them continue...

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-09-27 14:37

      The civilized will be long GONE! to where, we'l neva know

  • kumbulani - 2012-09-27 13:31

    Where is Zuma. His country is burning and innocent people dying for nothng. Whats in people these days? No remorse, no love. Its the leaders, employers, employees and jst man on ground same same. Only those with spiritual eyes can see where we are heading. The rest of the world is too blind to see the light coz busy thinking of empty tummies, cost of living, healthcare etc instead of seeking salvation. John 3 vs 16, John 14 vs 15, Romans 3 vs 23, Mathew 3 vs 2, Luke 15 vs 7, Luke 13 vs 3, 1 John 1 vs 9-10, 1 John 2 vs 15-17, all these shall come to pass

  • carolyn.myburgh - 2012-09-27 14:16

    Arrest them all and send them all a huge bill for all the damages and hospital trips for the peolpe thay have attacked then after that FIRE the whole lot it is the only way they will learn to behave themselves

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-27 14:51

    Primitive people again, burning, trashing, stone throwing ....anything new. When they wake up and walk into the real world maybe sombody can talk some sense into them. If they dont like the increase, resign and go and look for another job. Stop acting like an idiot.

  • vanzyl.fanie - 2012-09-27 16:00

    It is our God given right as human beings to have a job and to be able to provide for our families. Is it your right to strike and just stay away from work. These acts are all wrong in not only the eyes of all humans but God does not aprove of this. Why not go back to work and stop all this petty nonsens.. Be thankful and gracious that you have a job that pays and that God gives you each day as a blessing and in His name. Why the government does not help with this calamity I don't know but one thing is for certain..our countries leaders are frankly just useless!

  • sugardick.dupree - 2012-09-27 18:14

    WHERE THE F**K IS THE PRESIDENT?!

  • BikerBoy4Life - 2012-09-27 18:41

    Mayhem, mayhem and more mayhem. When are we going to have some peace in this country. Damn fools!!!

  • thechrisberryshow - 2012-09-27 18:58

    newsflash a$$h0les!!! we are all struggling, we are all trying to make a living. stop burning stuff and delaying us from getting to our jobs. you may not care for your job, but I sure as hell need mine to pay my bills, taxes, e-tolls, rates and everything else your idiot rich and corrupt government can think of charging me for....I'm white, so what ? I didn't support, agree to and promote apartheid, neither did my parents or my grandparents. I wasn't brought here I was born, just like you. I'm not rich, I'm broke...just like you. I can't afford nice things, I can barely afford food...just like you. I got a cr@ppy increase this year of 4.8%, it sucks, I think it's not enough JUST LIKE YOU. I sit in traffic on state of the art highways that haven't benefited me yet I'm now charged to sit in traffic JUST LIKE YOU. I can barely afford medical aid, but being white I won't even get a doctor at a public hospital. I have no public transport thats why I have to drive a car I don't even own. My electricity is double this month but I'm not setting anybody's stuff on fire....I'm not raping or killing anybody because of it. I'm a man, I do what I need to do to make sh!!t happen - I DO NOT have unlimited cash....whats up with all you black guys ? you think ALL whites are loaded with cash ??? catch a wake up man, I'm JUST LIKE YOU! I'm not the enemy, I'm a slave just like you...the government isn't white, the government is black, just like YOU. YOU chose them and they have failed us ALL

      naomi.benson.589 - 2012-09-27 19:51

      I'm black and agree with almost all of what you said Chris. The only thing I don't agree with is the statement; "whats up with all you black guys?" There is no need to use the word "all" as not all of us are like that or think like that. Likewise for any other race group.

      thechrisberryshow - 2012-09-27 20:47

      hey naomi, I don't mean to offend you or restrict you to a stereotype, but I've been white pretty much all my life and every black person I have ever engaged with, worked with or spoken too seems to have a pretty predetermined perception that I have so much money and I'm purposely not giving it to them. For example, I told a black colleague the other day I drove a 323, he said "nice, I like BMW's" I had to stop him and tell him its a mazda midge, and it's my mom's. fair enough though, I will correct myself humbly and say not all...but definitely most. you are the exception to the rule. hi, my name is Chris, pleased to meet you.

  • john.smit.121772 - 2012-09-27 19:28

    Reward them with a moerofa increase for their barbaric behaviour. That is the example set with Marikana.

  • sascha.s.koster - 2012-09-27 21:36

    was driving on my own back from moz "i do this drive alot"1st time noticed truck drivers etc being fairly decent but yet on each others tails hence fear for the ones still committed to there work!!!Plus ill say this they are brave to be doing what they are doing carrying on grafting why you ask!work for a company info is freely available they are working for a wage!

  • theo.joubert.37 - 2012-09-28 06:51

    Since they are out destroying property, they might just as well go and destroy the e-toll stations. Then at least they would do the whole country a huge favour.

  • gary.clark.376 - 2012-09-28 09:40

    My delivery van was stoned at OR Tambo on Wednesday, I went to the cops there and all they did was shrug their shoulders and did nothing except take my statement. The strikers were still there they could have been arrested, they were not interested in sorting it out at all. Does anyone know if there is any recourse against the uniouns as I have to pay R4k to get my van fixed?

      thechrisberryshow - 2012-09-29 06:24

      Hi Gary - if you have vehicle insurance your probably being charged a little bit extra as part of your premium for "sasria cover" - Sasria covers damage to property by public disorder and riots, strikes etc....check it out and good luck http://www.insurancechat.co.za/2011-08/what-is-sasria-insurance-and-how-does-it-help-protect-from-riots/

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