Claims made against public protector

2012-10-14 11:18

Johannesburg - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela has denied accusations that she was overly lenient on the Democratic Alliance and acted improperly, the Sunday Times reported.

Madonsela's deputy, Mamiki Shai, had submitted several claims to parliament, the paper reported.

Shai claims that Madonsela changed findings on a report into the DA-led Midvaal Municipality and deliberately withheld the report's release until after municipal elections had been held.

"The accusation is baseless and totally misleading," Madonsela said.

When her office had begun investigating, a draft report dismissing all allegations had already been prepared.

"It was under the public protector's hand that a more thorough investigation was done and many allegations substantiated."

She had not acted against a senior official reportedly accused of fraud, because the person had been cleared of wrongdoing by the inspector-general of intelligence, she said.

Shai also claimed Madonsela sought to change good governance recommendations which had criticised her conduct, took up cases beyond her jurisdiction, and hired external consultants to handle cases.

Madonsela denied putting pressure on the internal good governance and integrity committee to change its report.

"The public protector is not aware of any constructive criticism she was dismissive of."

She said she had written to Parliament in July asking it to investigate as anonymous letters were destabilising her office.

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-14 11:22

    And thus the cadre in fighting continues unabated.

      jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-10-14 12:39

      This is just a poor smear tactic, they are scared of what she may still uncover in the near future. This will become a pretext to sack her, disgusting shameless thieves.

      colin.dovey - 2012-10-14 14:12

      Indeed, Mamiki has a long record as being a negative influence - for example, way back in 2006 when Lawrence Mushwana held this office: The impasse between Public Protector Lawrence Mushwana and his deputy Mamiki Shai has deteriorated even further, with both of them preparing to drag each other to court. Shai said she had instructed her lawyers to "prepare papers" as she was going to sue Mushwana for "defamation of character, emotional torture and harassment". This comes after Mushwana acknowledged yesterday that he was suing Shai for defamation of character. But he would not confirm if he was claiming R3-million in damages, as had been reported in a Sunday newspaper. She appears not to have changed in the interim!

      George - 2012-10-14 18:44

      Have we now reached the time when the Public need to protect the Protector? This is African spring now.

  • geronimo.feather - 2012-10-14 11:23

    Fire the destabilising Deputy ANC agent!

  • SALife - 2012-10-14 11:25

    Typica, I wonder who accussed her of bias? This lady is brilliant and only the thieves are scared of her. Scared, very scared. She takes no prizinors and acts impartially. I like her. Malema must be running scared.

  • pj.mentoor - 2012-10-14 11:26

    People are fishing for something because she is doing a good job

      mullerier - 2012-10-21 06:28

      Jealousy is such a nasty thing on the political stage...and this woman is not even part of the political stage....BUT that makes her even more of a threat to the ANC. Shame on them!!

  • rontheogre - 2012-10-14 11:29

    A ploy to get rid of Madonsela? She stepping on too many toes?

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-10-14 11:37

    If you not corrupt and you expose ANC cadres you will be targeted, typical ANC bullying tactics, we see this crap everytime a official is pointed out as been dishonest.

  • ignatius.makhura - 2012-10-14 11:43

    It's u again juju,when wil u learn to shut ur mouth to things that u dont know.hands off to thuli

      phuti.hlabane - 2012-10-14 20:33

      Juju didn't say tht,u must b very broke & jealous of him.Zuma is corrupt y is he not being investigated?use ur brains if u have them not ur mouth.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-15 07:12

      @ Phuti well it is kind of strange that this Shai character accuses Thuli Madonsela of being partuial just of after she finds malema guilty.

  • Ryan - 2012-10-14 11:47

    The better you are at your job, the more they will go for you Thuli

      Erna - 2012-10-14 12:23

      Not just the 'better' she does her job, but how honestly. She doesn't fit in with the rest of the bad lot.

  • Sydney Hakeem Thabo Dipela - 2012-10-14 11:52

    Rotten ANC that's a lie Adv. Madonsela is going to nail your corrupt ANC ass.

  • timgaulza - 2012-10-14 11:57

    And she doesn't want Madonsela's job at all? Or I wonder how much the ANC has bribed Shai to make these accusations. I smell a rat.

      SharonE - 2012-10-14 17:12

      A promotion sounds about right, and then, no more investigations into ANC corruption. Thuli Madonsela has survived smear campaigns in the past, though this one hits close to home! How can she work with this person after this? I have so much respect for Thuli, she is honourable, and has become a huge thorn in the ANC's side.

  • ISO - 2012-10-14 11:59

    Unbelievable! SA is run by the mafia, i wonder who told Shai to submit these claims. Voetsek!!, Shai Thuli, for president!!!!

  • ester.venter.3 - 2012-10-14 12:02

    I truly hope Thuli has a full time bodyguard entail. So sad that a good person doing a fantastic job should be hunted like this.

  • Cappuccinno4u - 2012-10-14 12:02

    I'm not surprised @ all.. Now that she, Thuli, is on the brink of exposing the 203 million corruption of the BIG FISH, Jacob Zoomer's Nkandlas homestead, they are ploying to get rid of Thuli Madonzela as much as they did to the SCORPIONS..

  • moriri.mosweu - 2012-10-14 12:03

    Shai, come up with witnesses to those allegations and really if it is the truth, Madonsela needs to be nailed too or you must be nailed for conniving.

  • ISO - 2012-10-14 12:12

    News24, why do you delete my comment? I will repeat what i said! Unbelievable! SA is run by the mafia! I wonder who told Shai to make these statements? Voetsek (Humba) Shai! Thuli for president!!!! Now, you are quick to delete this comment, but when someone writes racist or violence provocative comments it is left alone!? Its seems that you are the ANC propaganda machine! Who told you to delete my comment?

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-14 12:12

    Why this cant get me to get suprised?

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-14 12:13

      Is it becouse i am a bloody agent or somethhing?

  • Cameron - 2012-10-14 12:19

    Its funny how the same thing happened to the Scorpions.... Every time they get close to revealing something about someone in a high power, that they do not like, they get them removed.....mmmm.....

      vuyelwa.kamlana - 2012-10-14 13:26

      Very true...n its so annoying its like the freedom charter does not exist @ all...'the ppl shall share...'-what happened to that?

  • Erna - 2012-10-14 12:26

    Oh come on! This is so obvious.

  • ignatius.makhura - 2012-10-14 12:28

    Public protector,siu,hawks and general auditor ur new assignment (nkandla homestead) i want a full report within six months

      vuyelwa.kamlana - 2012-10-14 13:27


  • sphala - 2012-10-14 12:31

    Am not surprise...and I knew she has scandals as well, let her be exposed, South Africa * shaking my head *

  • pohunter1 - 2012-10-14 12:31

    They have to get rid of the only functional department. It makes them look bad, and brings their dark evil ways into the light of day.

      vuyelwa.kamlana - 2012-10-14 13:21

      A BIG AMEEEEEN to that.

  • mluleki.duku1 - 2012-10-14 12:34

    I wonder where is this country going, No:1 z using his puppets to shift the focus. Shai go to nearest hell n leave Madonsela alone she is a woman of intergrity. Before we never knew the functions of public protector. Continue Madonsela with your Good Work without fear o favour!!!!!!!

      Paul Van Schalkwyk - 2012-10-14 13:05

      i agree, she's making things hot for the stories will be fabricated to take the focus of the main tsotsi's (skelm government dudes)

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-10-14 12:41

    Its smells a rat. Someone in collaboration and corruption with Shai wants to rub some dirt on the pupbilc ptotector. I think when she started to investigate Nkandlagate she stepped on many a toes. What would you expect from dossiers involved with the likes of Blade and Ramathlodi.

  • masupa.tsela - 2012-10-14 12:51

    We knw dat Thuli and Dr Ramphele want to join DA. I was as well surprised by the way she handle that case!

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-10-14 13:02

    She does her job and someone doesn't like it lies to discredit her I knew it wouldn't be long before she started ruffling feathers!!

  • don.frost.581 - 2012-10-14 13:04

    Just lie a dog that turns on its owner!

  • tsatsi.golden - 2012-10-14 13:13

    Zuma u are destroying our future. U have milked our economy tht enough

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-14 13:16

    No matter what you read on news 24 you will always find those same racists who have an axe to grind. Certainly they are afraid to look to the future, they still living in the past. They cant even bear to see their own people who have taken the opportunity to do something with their lives and those who are uplifting themselves, sure these racists must be jealous because they cant leave their chain behind keep pointing fingers when they know they are a nothing. The problem you cant even compare the black people who have done something for themselves and their families living a good happy life, you cant compare them to these people who cant see what life has to offer. Life is not about black and white, life is about you and how you can do something constructive. I would rather you use that computer and educate yourself and understand the that this is 2012 get a life and move on.

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-14 13:23

    Dirty tricks well and truly underway already by ANC supporters. What a bunch of useless airheads. No integrity or honesty whatsoever. Sfrica is already ruing the day that the ANC took over the reins.

  • Ally Adonis - 2012-10-14 13:23

    Some of these comments are no better than gov in power, whether she is black, blue, pink, yellow, DA, ACDP or ANC she is fulfilling her constitutional obligations. I would definitely crack a worry if pleople desire a candy coated democracy like the USA. No matter where you go gov officials tend to be corrupt, we need sniffer dogs to rat out corporate crime. I don't care who runs this country as long as there is transparency, accountability, responsibility and openness that is true democracy!!!

  • john.cryink - 2012-10-14 13:23

    FIRE the whole cANCer

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-14 13:35

    where does this shai comes from ? china or japan ?

      irvin.mkhari - 2012-10-14 13:52

      came from Holland.

  • tsatsi.golden - 2012-10-14 13:49

    Zuma u are destroying our future. U have milked our economy tht enough

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-10-14 13:55

    she take orders from the old man.

  • trevor.leon.5 - 2012-10-14 14:21

    i believe that once madonsela goes eventually,and is replaced by an ANC lackey,that will truly be the end of this country.

  • Chikane - 2012-10-14 14:27

    Now that's the reality of deep politics, u lick mine I suck urs!,,,,or else! It reminds me of Ranjeni Moonosamy, spy NPA Director, Zuma and Judge Hefer, who was around?

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-14 14:35

    It has got to the stage that it is so depressing to pickup a newspaper. From front page to the back just corruption and millions being stolen by the thieving individuals. They will get rid of Thuli and replace her with a corr upt person and all the files etc in Thuli's office will dissappear. When any of the cadres are on tv the first thing that comes to mind is liars liars and you stop listening. Why has life come down to this its not a good example by government. The current lot will go to any length to deny and lie and try and remove the evidence and its funny because they look you straight in the eye and deny. The devil is going to think it is christmas one of these days, Big fat turkeys will be coming in masses.

  • dejagermarc - 2012-10-14 14:56

    There is a change coming in this country. Just reading these comments shows that. Thuli, you rock. This country needs to stand up for our good people and she is an amazing, no- nonsense fighter of the people!!!

  • J.A.Rademan - 2012-10-14 14:57

    The fools will outvote the righteous. Democracy in Africa.

  • olebogeng.diratsagae - 2012-10-14 15:26

    Zuma and this Lady they make SA a banana she da only clean someone in dis country????????????????????in Zuma's government

  • nketso.kgwadi - 2012-10-14 15:31

    Always suspected her of selectivity and how can if u r a public protector go to party fucntions and its good that someone within her office said it

  • sisie.indola - 2012-10-14 15:47

    With the anc being 99.9% corrupt it's a no wonder they are calling for an investigation into Thuli Madonsela. I am sure there are at least 12 people standing in line for her job, but that doesnot mean they are not corrupt. She just happens to have ethics and morals not to forget high standards which is more than can be said about the anc.

  • colette.pretorius - 2012-10-14 16:36

    It is clear as the light of day that politics are at play here and that some people are feeling threatened by Ms Mdonsela doing her job extremely well.. I am certain all of us hope that she remains in her post for a very long time as she is excells in it. I have the utmost respect for her.

  • john.mahlahlane - 2012-10-14 17:30

    Thuli, I'm afraid, watch your back your offices could be ransacked.

  • Tello Moleko - 2012-10-14 19:00

    Thuli investigate allegations made to her office,individuals start to feel the heat and they know they are next and want to build the wall to hide themselves

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-15 03:32

    Yes, this is what we normally see, A organised exercise at the at getting rid of a thread. The ANC and it's cronies play for keeps and eliminates all who threaton them. Madonsela are doing a damn good job. When she asks for more funds they should running to give it to her as she is carrying out her mandate with flying colours!

  • robes.spear - 2012-10-15 07:58

    Ms Madonsela, please hold strong and fast. It is because of people like you that South Africa can be a better place. Be true to your ideals. A bright torch always chases the rats from their corners and unfortunately many of them have made the ANC their nest where they gorge upon the public purse. Like any cornered animal they are dangerous and will put up a fight but by doing so will identify themselves for all to see. I congratulate you on the sterling work and selfless example that you are making. My wish is that the public, whom you so selflessly serve, are the first to support you in fighting this scourge of corruption in our society. Best wishes. R.

  • aijaman.pirlo - 2012-10-15 16:54

    Kudala ndangamqondi loThulie Madonsela...Khona uvelaphi lomntu???

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-16 04:33

    Methinks Shai has an eye on the top job.

  • bongile.langa - 2012-10-18 21:37

    And all the allegations have been brought up by her deputy, aiming higher ha!