Clashes at Cosatu rally

2012-10-27 11:54

Johannesburg- Police and traffic officials had their hands full as a group of marchers wearing black t-shirts clashed with Cosatu marchers at a rally in Rustenburg on Saturday.

The group wore black t-shirts printed with, "Marikana Support Campaign" on the front and "Forward with Living Wage - R12 500" at the back.

A Sapa reporter at the march said a couple of red Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) t-shirts were burnt at the Olympia Stadium where a rally would be held.

The Cosatu marchers were still in the city centre, making their way to the stadium.

The group dressed in black had already arrived at the stadium, armed with stones and sticks.

They ordered a group of Cosatu marchers travelling in a minibus to take off their t-shirts.

The vehicle drove off, but not before it was pelted with stones.

Traffic officials and the police have temporarily halted the Cosatu march to allow the tensions at the stadium to die down.

Cosatu's secretary general Zwelinzima Vavi tweeted on Saturday morning that “about 1500 people opposed to Cosatu rally have occupied the stadium.” He said police must protect “our right to assemble”.

The rally at the Olympia Park stadium would be addressed by SA Communist Party secretary general Blade Nzimande, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe and Cosatu's Vavi.

Rustenburg has been engulfed in recent strike activity.

The strike started at Lonmin's Marikana mine in August where workers demanded a monthly salary of R12 500 and by September 12 it spread to Anglo American Platinum (Amplats) where workers demanded R16 000.

The workers chose to represent themselves instead of negotiating through the unions.

They left the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) and joined rival union the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) claiming that NUM did not serve the workers' interests.

The Amplats workers were still on strike despite the company firing 12 000 of them for failing to appear in disciplinary hearing.
Amplats announced on Saturday that it would reinstate the workers.

Lonmin workers ended their strike on September 20 when workers accepted pay hike that would see the lowest worker paid R9 000.
On August 16, 34 Lonmin Marikana mine workers were shot dead during a confrontation with police.

  • chris.debeer1 - 2012-10-27 11:58


      armand.horn.58 - 2012-10-27 12:04

      And now COSATU want to play the poor victim, forgetting it is actually THEIR Modus Operandi.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-27 13:05

      In democracy it's your vote that counts; In Cosatu it's the body-count that votes.

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-10-27 13:14

      Zuma, the foreign investors "TALK THE COUNTRY DOWN", when they watch you and your kind operate.

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-10-27 14:38

      What unions the world over never seem to get is that their employers, those evil capitalists aren't their partners. They will continue to up the workers pay as long as their profits are going up, but when the reach the point where it is costing them more to be in business than they are making by being in business (whatever the business) then they will shut down the business and walk away. Unions have always looked at buildings and equipment (drills for mines) and other physical things as the business. Business owners look at human capital as the business. That is they look at people as their biggest asset, that is people who know how to come up with business ideas, how to start businesses, how to finance businesses, how to run a business in good times and bad. Unions will never understand what Andrew Carnegie once said; "Take my plants (steel) my machines, and my money, but leave me my key people (and that's not the laborer sorry) and in 5 years I will have it all back. If Cosatu makes it too difficult business owners who know how to create both businesses and jobs will walk away and do it somewhere else.

  • nyiko.ngobeni.5011 - 2012-10-27 11:59

    Hectic times!

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-27 12:06

    BACK OFF POLICE : Let the have a full go at each other !

      chris.summers.3954 - 2012-10-27 12:34

      @Mlungisi. Yeah sure, because there's been always so many white people involved in violent protests in South Africa.

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-10-27 12:38

      White people don't act like other words, they don't act like your type of human, Mlungisi.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-27 12:54

      @mlungisi.magada ~ White people don't behave like barbarians.

      richard.stevens.31508 - 2012-10-27 13:19

      ?? White people don't behave like hooligans and barbarians... Mmmmmm - errr, let me google that... what year should we start?? with what sport, or political or social event should we start?

  • Jakkals Venter - 2012-10-27 12:07

    This time i agree with the miners,what is Cosatu doing there?Collect money from the poor workers so that Zuma can get richer.Cosato is no longer a trade union just a puppet for the ANC to use for election time.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-10-27 12:09

    Moer mekaar.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-27 12:53

      @Steward. Pass the popcorn please. HKGK

  • kuvha.tshilamatanda - 2012-10-27 12:11

    tough times ahead

  • nyiko.ngobeni.5011 - 2012-10-27 12:12

    Let them donor each other

  • SharonE - 2012-10-27 12:13

    When Vavi announced that they will be marching today that was my first thought! Bloodbath...

  • mzondistanley - 2012-10-27 12:15

    Workers have to be organized and orderly or else Police it is their vDuty to stamp out Anarchy/Lawlessness> Negotiation for wages should not be enterpreted as if Workers Can not take NO for as answer!! The Employer in this case is the owner of the Money called Wages!! They also have a right to go to another Country!!

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-10-27 12:17

    No sympathy for Cosatu on this one. They usually ravage Jhb city centre when they strike - and plead innocence. They victimise and kill legitimite workers when they strike - and plead innocence. They disrupt the DA match for the youth subsidy - and plead innocence. Cosatu is nothing more than a vote-spinning machine for the ANC. They assure the ANC of millions of votes and the ANC in return assures them that they will be the top dog union in the country. The farce is over - the cracks in this cosy relationship are showing. People are angry. Get used to it Cosatu - your days are numbered.

  • damien.bako - 2012-10-27 12:18

    Yes Vavi your right to assemble must be respected - just like your union members respect other people's rights. How does it feel to get a bit of your own medicine?

  • mandla.hlatywayo - 2012-10-27 12:20

    if those anc comrade are white people,they wil say this an a apartheid?now they command police whatever they like.first it was cyril and vavi to command the police,if u are corrupt comrade automatically u are commander.

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-27 12:25

    SA's own flying black piglets take off in Rustenburg only to land where? Nkandla maybe? and while in flight give zuma another R28million - having succeeded at least in becoming the worlds greatest hustler

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-10-27 12:27

    The police must do the job the were employed to do and that is to protect the INNOCENT people of the country. Leave the marchers let them moer the living daylights out of each other.

  • jola.jose.7 - 2012-10-27 12:29

    Are we going to a civil war because of corrupt anc

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-10-27 12:35

      my brother I fear that we are on a slippery slope..

  • neilpretorius83 - 2012-10-27 12:31

    Prehistoric era: sticks and stones. Apartheid era: sticks and stones. Post-Apartheid era: sticks and stones. Keep it classy, South Africa!

      frans.vanderpoll - 2012-10-27 12:45

      @neil, remember the stones that Helen Zille allegedly took to Jo'burg some time ago? It's the same stones they're using today. Lol.

  • chris.summers.3954 - 2012-10-27 12:35

    No matter who dies there today from either side, the country will be better off. Great news, have at each other, you bloody savages...

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-27 12:55


      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-27 13:19

      @irene. "+1" Cheapskate.

      richard.stevens.31508 - 2012-10-27 13:25

      errr, chris.summers, in terms of the definition of savages, have you taken a look at your profile pic lately, self described "manwhore university at self employed"...?? very funny - lol

      richard.stevens.31508 - 2012-10-27 13:32

      In terms of chris.summers comment about savages, can everybody click on his profile pic... very funny.... guess it takes one to know one... lol

  • david.lebethe - 2012-10-27 12:38

    Cosatu refused to heed a reasonable warning by people on the ground as they are complicit of all casualties, that happened today. Stubborness of Cosatu leadership and arrogance of Sacp are the cause of loss of lives in that part of the country and its about time that the alliance must take the responsibility.

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-10-27 12:38

    Why can't protesters march without hurling stones, vandalizing property and being unruley and destructive in order to make a point?

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-27 12:56


  • muke.matshaba - 2012-10-27 12:39

    If u lead to fill ur pockets and those of ur immediate families, The answer would always b this, lawlessnes and favouritism in the judiciary

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-27 12:43

    Vavi. You on your way out, bro! Making a big show now, a bit late. You've lost it.

  • johann.enslin.9 - 2012-10-27 12:47

    Like the police protected the rights of those who wanted to work? Vavi, your hypocrisy knows no bounds

  • sam.husseni.1 - 2012-10-27 12:48

    tough time for Vavi and his friends of Zuma camp. the reality is coming when Zuma brings down the ANC. WATCH out!!!!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-27 12:54

    The tide turns, they set the president, now they deserve what they get, 'gat-kruiping' with the ANC gets your face full of turd.

  • Bermatt Lambrechts - 2012-10-27 12:57

    sleg bliksems.!

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-10-27 13:10

    The division has started, VIVA

  • Luzuko Luzu Delihlazo - 2012-10-27 13:13

    if u remember what happen to DA marching and now marches turn to war this must stop i dont blame either zuma or vavi but all of SAfricans its our responsibility to preach peace

  • gary.desousa.7 - 2012-10-27 13:57


  • biswadip.dasgupta.5 - 2012-10-27 14:47

    This is another symptom of the crisis affecting global capitalism. The bourgeoisie tries different options in different countries - a bit of Stalinist thuggery in China, a neo-liberal shrug of the shoulders in Europe and America, and the dutiful silence of black workers in South Africa because of their gratitude at being "liberated" by the ANC-SACP-COSATU bureaucrats now busy lining their pockets. It is time for the miners and other workers in South Africa to leave COSATU and form their own combat organisations, organising across all boundaries of race and ethnicity used to divide us - whether by the white racists or the black populists. The spark of defiance lit by the miners in South Africa will flash and thunder around the globe like a bolt of lightning electrifying the silent majority out of their slumber - the weakest link in the chain of global capitalism is about to snap - let's get ready to rumble!

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-10-27 16:53

      Wow some one just finished reading the communist manifesto. You would have been right at home in Russia at the beginning of the 1900's. To bad your rhetoric has no power anymore ,seeing as how communism or socialism do not work. Read something else besides propaganda that's outdated by about a hundred years.

      biswadip.dasgupta.5 - 2012-10-27 21:32

      What is patently obvious is that capitalism does not work anymore - open your eyes and ears and stop rehashing cold war propaganda. The Cold War is over. It can no longer be used to divide us. Just because cynical old tankies like you saw your beloved Russia come crashing down and lost your superstitious faith in what you thought was socialism but was actually a murderous bureaucracy preventing socialism does not mean the rest of us have to put up with a decadent and senile capitalist system plunging the world into the new Dark Ages. We have had enough of your "There is no alternative" mantras - we will not put up with it. Get used to it. Victory to the miners!

  • Sello PilaPila Mabebo - 2012-10-27 17:08

    Conflict will never end dz moment between two union's, I was the when conflict start happen; ask me?

  • kenny.bianco.7 - 2012-10-28 09:29

    We are not gna allow lawlessness in SA, no matter who started it

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