Clinton holds strategic talks in SA

2012-08-07 12:01

Pretoria - US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is meeting top South African officials in talks focused on HIV/Aids, trade and the response to events in global hotspots.

Clinton met with International Relations Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane in the second cabinet-level strategic dialogue between the two nations in Pretoria on Tuesday.

South Africa is a member of the UN Security Council and the US wants its support in dealing with the worsening crisis in Syria.

Clinton is in South Africa at the midpoint of an 11-day tour that has already taken her to Senegal, Uganda, South Sudan, Kenya and Malawi.

After a stop in Cape Town, she will travel to Nigeria, Ghana and Benin before moving on to Turkey, where she will have meetings to discuss Syria.

  • sean.redmond3 - 2012-08-07 12:09

    Will our Government understand?

      peter.jeffrey.581 - 2012-08-07 12:45

      maybe if you draw pictures for them, just don't draw anything round they will think its beetroot and then Tshabalala-Msimang will think she was right all along...

      Kacee - 2012-08-07 13:12

      LOL, she had to wait for Zuma to leave before she pulled in....

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-07 14:13

      I don't get it! Doesn't Zuma find THIS more beneficial rather than going to JAMAICA? LOL

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 14:18

      Clinton has nothing to offer this country!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 19:07

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of South Africans), and all proud South Africans think of this.

  • peter.jeffrey.581 - 2012-08-07 12:30

    So how much of our tax money was thrown away at this 'indaba'? I mean does anyone honestly think our government will take anything away from this if it doesnt net them a cut of the profits

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-08-07 12:35

    Remember you are speaking to communists!!

      jowza1 - 2012-08-07 12:57

      remember you are making idiotic statements

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 12:59

    People with a sniff of brainpower have learnt to pretty much ignore anything Hillarious says as a rule of thumb. Can't recall the last time she uttered something that wasn't utter BS or a call for more war. South Africa has already made its position regarding Syria. We are also not prepared to pay billions for drugs to US pharmaceuticals when generic versions are available. We will also not allow our people to be guinea pigs for new HIV/AIDS drug discoveries.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-07 13:32

      Generic drugs like beetroot? Its very noble to hate the USA while they provide billions of dollars of aid around the world.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 14:00

      The conscience masturbation that is US aid has been utterly corrosive of African states, all too often lining the pockets of a corrupt ruling class and reducing the populations to a state of dependency.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-07 14:04

      Fidel, Since when do you give a hoot about any hiv-aids sufferer. You are an incurable BULLSH.TTER !!!

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-07 14:18

      Er u just pointed out the problem there - the corrupt ruling classes! That makes it an African problem, also talking about dependence why is it that pretty much every independence movement swells its bureaucracy and civil service enormously in a jobs for votes transaction, political patronage is dependency too you know! Ultimately if you don't want to be dependant on aid best invest all that aid money in schools so we cn do things for ourselves, but I won't hold my breath!

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-07 15:08

      No the constraint of African independent thinking is its disregard for basic education because that's what the white and yellow men do and therefore is wrong. The conditions are actually based on good governance. The fact of the matter is foreign companies (not just western-look who owns standard-the chinese) already own stakes in our major companies and more increasingly so the chinese. There is no protection from foreign influence these days and FDI if managed properly can be beneficial as Brazil is finding out building ford motor cars amongst otherthings and have raised 10 million people out of poverty. Ultimately fidel you can blame the west all you like but until Africa gets its education systems up to scratch we will never be able to create or invent anything to compete globally.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 15:16

      @Torro Foreign Aid is not cheap or free. It is used as a political tool to achieve certain interests. The scope of Africa’s independent thinking is constrained by the need for any strategies devised to meet with the consent of intl donors. The fact is that post-colonial Africa has not been helped to be autonomous by the so called liberal democracies. Financial help always comes with conditions (IMF SAPs). The conditions are invariably aimed at allowing western companies free access to raw materials & minerals or access to markets. Protection from corrupt western capital is exactly what Africa needs but never gets. A constant stream of "free" money is a perfect way to keep an inefficient or simply bad government in power. Any African country or leader that has sought to break this strangle hold has been met with an array of sanctions or the assassination of its leadership. Africa is tired of IMF/World Bank Ponzi schemes and scams.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 15:31

      The conditions have nothing to do with good governance. How many dictators have the US installed or willingly supported on this continent? There is nothing altruistic about foreign aid. It's meant to ensure the constant flow of resources from this continent to the west, and opening our markets wide for western products. Of course, this does not let off the hook the silk-tie wearing, mostly retarded crowd of grown men who lie, steal and trick their way to Africa's presidencies.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 15:32

      @Anthony If you don't stop annoying the adults who are trying to have a serious discussion then I'm afraid Santa will be informed.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-07 17:31

      Don't BS yourself Fidel, You don't discuss, you only spew out HATRED !!!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-07 18:25

      That's it. Santa's being informed first thing in the morning. And your mother as well.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:53

      Right now, in the US/Mandela thread, Fidel states that Nelson Mandela is an "Uncle Tom", a fake. This is how delusional Fidel's world is. One of the most revered leaders the world over, our own Nelson Mandela, is a fake. Fidel's obsessive and immature anti-West core belief even distorts his view of Nelson Mandela. I wonder what ANC members and voters (67% of South Africans) think of this.

  • keith.murphy.9638 - 2012-08-07 18:53

    nothing from africa should be exported from our continent to thewest and europe.they are eveil monsters.Whatever africa needs china, india and south america can supply.Death to america and its allies

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:59

      Keith wants more poverty in Africa, and in his world China is not exporting Africa's raw materials to the motherland.

  • michangel.justice - 2012-08-08 14:59

    Talking about respect of nations the West NATO US UK and so on go into any country they like not respecting the sovereign rights of that country and murder kidnap and control and create instability everywhere imperial past colonial past ,what we see now of the world order is the chaos that the west has created. however they do not dare go into Syria because they are chicken and rather look on like vultures ready to pick the bones,and talking about war crimes the west is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths in wars all over the world The US think they own the universe and all, however there exist a power over us all and finally call the shots There will be an end just like other empires, empty rubble in the dust and. Nature and God will take over and our future will be the day of judgement. First one must know the cause before one knows the consequences. Syria is the first of the Global nuclear war ,why doesn't US Russia China And all who have them use them ,they think by having them that others will be threatened ,but they will destroy each other with them ,there will be no winners and no one to tell the history but rubble over after millions years. How do we not know some planets had life on them but destroyed themselves for vanity,when we search the Universe for life we will get a sign that our own world is doomed.I wonder who SA will team-up with in the COMING WAR, US/British or Russia/China ???

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-08 16:58

      Sad that this is the world you live in.

      michangel.justice - 2012-08-10 10:05

      Correction brother, THE WORLD WE LIVE. "DICTATORS and HYPOCRITES"

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