Coach says sorry for referee assault

2012-05-16 10:50

Johannesburg - The EG Jansen High School first team rugby coach who shoved the referee after a match and swore at him has apologised, Beeld reported on Wednesday.

Schalk Snyman said on Tuesday he was "very sad" about the incident with Mlungiseleli Mdashe.

"Everybody can see on the video what happened, and the context makes no difference, an offence stays an offence," Snyman was quoted saying.

His future would be decided at a disciplinary hearing on Wednesday.

According to Jurie Coetzee, head of the Valke Rugby Union, and Leon de Beer, headmaster of EG Jansen High School in Boksburg, Snyman had been provisionally banned from any involvement with the Valke and the school, pending the hearing's outcome.

Mdashe said he was considering "a very serious charge of assault, intimidation and undermining my authority". He said he might proceed with a civil case, depending on the outcome of the disciplinary hearing.

"In the end, I want rugby to win. I hope the right decision will be taken," Mdashe said.

Snyman attempted to contact Mdashe on Monday and Tuesday to apologise, but Mdashe, acting on the advice of his lawyers, refused to speak to him.

  • Michelle - 2012-05-16 10:56

    I do agree with Snyman being banned, waiting for the outcome. I have seen the video clip as well and it is very obvious that Snyman is in the wrong. However, am a bit confused Mdashe might proceed with a civil case, but wants rugby to win??? I have been a spectator at school-level rugby matches and it has sometimes been very frustrating when the ref messes up a good game. Not saying this was the case here!! Just speculating

      Mark - 2012-05-16 11:27

      So when a husband gets frustrated with his wife, for what ever reason, it's okay for him to assault her?

      Nigel - 2012-05-16 11:40

      Nice work Mr Snyman - You A Hole!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-16 11:44

      Where are the Educated ??? Violence over discussion............ Prehistoric views.

      Stormkaap - 2012-05-16 12:12

      Michelle referees mess up at the highest level. All referees make mistakes..iits human nature to make errors. Just like he boy who headbutted the ref, this coach should also be banned from the game for 10 yrs..

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-16 12:13

      @michelle, your comment was making sense until the last half of it. What I'm gathering from the second half is a way of trying to find a fault on the side of the referee. Mdashe has all the right to purse civil claim against the bastard, it will actually teach the rest of them in the rugby fraternity not mess with referees. The article explicitly does not report any fault on the side of the referee, so please save your speculations.

      Matti - 2012-05-16 14:01

      Snyman freaking physically attacked the guy! Mdashe should sue him for everything he's got. This is NOT only about rugby, this is about people thinking that it's "OK" to use physical violence to assert or make their point. It happens in rugby, it happens in clubs, it happens on the street. It's barbaric! Take him to court and sue the A hole!

      Matti - 2012-05-16 14:20 Seriously, watch the video. Not only did the coward attack the guy, he did it from the side/back so Mdashe couldn't even see it coming or have a chance to defend himself. It's disgusting.

      Andre - 2012-05-17 08:25

      Snyman should be punished severely regardless of how bad the referee might have been. But, Snyman was man enough to acknowledge that he was in the wrong, and that is more than most South Africans are doing these days. courts have to prove them wrong!

  • Nico - 2012-05-16 11:01

    He should be banned, it was unsportman-like, and definitely not an example to children. The outside-centre of EG Jansen's 2nd Team should also be expelled from the school. What parent allows his child to hit other children on the rugby-field like this teenager did ? He's a disgrace and should be taught a lesson ! His parents are fully to blame for his behavior !!

      Sook - 2012-05-16 12:09

      Nico, could not agree more about expelling the player. Like the one from the incident during April who head butted the ref, this sort of behaviour will only escalate. Not only should he be expelled, but banned from ever playing rugby ever again or in any way being involved with the sport. We are raising trash in our schools. If I were part of this school, parent, teacher or scholar, I'd hang my head in shame.

      Merven - 2012-05-16 13:26

      Jip, the scary thing is that a fool like this is coaching the players of the future. One team with a Stormers mentality is enough! ;-)

  • Bennie - 2012-05-16 11:02

    Boksburg !!!!!!

      JHLR73 - 2012-05-16 11:15

      Really, is that all you can come up with? Stupid comment. This happens all over SA where the game of schoolboy rugby is played.

      Stirrer - 2012-05-16 11:32

      @JHLR73 - Errrrr..... No.

      Marion - 2012-05-16 11:40

      @Bennie - agree with JHLR73 that your comment is stupid.

  • John - 2012-05-16 11:02

    bad for rugby, dont know if "sorry i was wrong" is going to help, but in hind sight and i am not condoning what snyman did, refs performances must also be evaluated, they are not always correct and maybe should not be blowing at that level,

      Kala - 2012-05-16 11:07

      Maybe we should have a two referee system. Does hockey not use two referees? Although having said that I suppose the assistant referees are supposed to, as their title implies, assist.

      John - 2012-05-16 11:23

      kala, there is one ref and 2 linesman, and the linesman can bring mistakes to the refs attemtion but the ref has the final say and as we saw with the bryce lawrence affair they can favour one side and blow accordingly, dont know why the people are giving me thumbs down for my previous comment, it was wrong and a real bad show for the coach to take his frustrations out on the ref and should be banned for a period,

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-16 12:21

      refs are human beings and not immune to making mistakes. This has nothing to do with refs messing the game, it’s about professionals remaining professional even when the decisions are unfairly adverse to them, it’s part of the game after all. In sport, nothing can justify hitting/hurting a fellow player or game officials. Period.

      Gert - 2012-05-16 12:27

      What exactly did the ref do wrong? Or do you just assume that he must have done something wrong because he was attacked? Mdashe is one of the countries top 25 referees according to yesterday's report. I wonder how many times a coach makes a wrong call. This Saturday, while I was an assistant referee at a under 19 match, I counted ten incorrect offside calls by one of the teams' coach. He basically couldn't understand how the opposition defense can be so quick on his side's backline that he shouted that they were off side every time one of his players got tackled. So, instead of telling his scrumhalf to pass quicker or tell his team to keep playing with the forwards, he just shrugged this off and I'm sure he told hit team the the ref doesn't see the other team going off side. But, from where I stood (In line with the off side line) I never once saw the defending team go offside.

      albertusvw - 2012-05-16 13:25

      André Watson reviewed the incident in question, and came to the conclusion that the referee was right! He's also the top schools referee at the Valke. What are you talking about?

      Hermann - 2012-05-16 14:15

      I agree the refs performances should be evaluated AND it is, but the players and the trainers should equally be evaluated, and because they are trainers they should take the brunt of all fiascoes because their training failed.

  • JHLR73 - 2012-05-16 11:13

    Really ref, a very serious charge of assault? It sounds like the ref ended up in hospital with fractured bones and broken nose. I saw the clip on beeld website.This is indeed not the case. the ref was shoulder charged from behind, the ref hardly moved two inches, a few words was exchanged and was over. Yes, assistant coaches are not allowed to do that, referees have to be protected. But this whole thing has been blown out of preportion really. I have seen worst cases in the past where referees had to be escourted from the field at high school games. referess will always be exploited at high school games due tue the lack of security and assistance.It is up to the rugby unions to implement stronger security measures to avoid this in future. AND BENNIE it has nothing to do with Boksburg, this happens all over SA where rugby is played thank you very much..

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-16 11:42

      What Planet are you on ???

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-16 12:22

      @JHLR73, you can't help yourself huh?

      Merven - 2012-05-16 13:30

      "What Planet are you on ???" Clearly planet Boksburg.

      Colin - 2012-05-16 19:32

      Gaan lek jou lippe dan proe jy daai stront wat jy nou praat!

  • Jan Swanepoel - 2012-05-16 11:13

    It is a simple thing the coach must be banned that is it. The civil matter needs to be stopped as rugby will not win anything if it goes that way. It is in fact that the Jansen School has always been that school with the rich parents and playing rugby gets you certain given positives in school work.

  • nicromano.liebenberg - 2012-05-16 11:16

    very funny how rugby spectators brains work. when the ref is supposedly bad and you are on side that getting the go ahead from the ref you don't complaint but if you get other side you complaint. maybe maybe if you plus and minus all that it will even out and rugby win.

  • Paul - 2012-05-16 11:16

    Ban him for life so that he can not be involved in rugby in any way or form !

      Marion - 2012-05-16 11:42

      @Paul - unacceptable behaviour, definitely. Ban him for life? Bit extreme.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-16 12:24

      @Paul, that's a bit extreme, the man has a family and obviously love the sport. We can't hang him for committing a mistake especially when he shows remorse about his mistake.

      Merven - 2012-05-16 13:37

      Agree with Paul, he coach the rugby players of the future, what example is he giving? @siyadyosiba: Would he still shown remorse if it was never caught on camera? I seriously doubt it.

      Colin - 2012-05-16 19:35

      Agree @ Paul - His attitude should not be allowed in a sport where grievous bodily harm can be done! @ Siya, I normally like your comments, but a'aish not this time ne. No TRC for this guy!

  • Deon - 2012-05-16 11:19

    It might be easier to just resign as coach.

  • Gavin - 2012-05-16 11:19

    I must admit that if I'd been in Bry Lawrences presence during the world cup, he would've needed surgery to remove his head from his ass. I don't condone what happened here, but I can understand it. A lifetime ban is a bit much, make the dude do some community work as punishment. He can remove rocks from future DA/Cosatu demonstrations for example...

      Colin - 2012-05-16 19:36

      It's precisely this attitude that breeds contempt for figures in authority!

  • dekkeranton - 2012-05-16 11:33

    That stupid plank should never ever again be allowed to come near a school kid or a rugby game. What a shocking example to children in our already volatile society. Whatever have happened during the game that triggered him, the result of a schoolboy rugby game is not important in the greater scheme of things, disregarding how some of the commentators on this page feel. Disgusting, disgraceful, repulsive, scandalous, reprehensible, shameful, appalling, abhorrent!

  • Cape - 2012-05-16 11:53

    A ban is the only justifiable outcome; this guy is such a coward!

  • martin.obrien1 - 2012-05-16 11:53

    The guy is a spineless wimp and an idiot... I felt terrible watching that clip.

  • cdwilson3 - 2012-05-16 11:55

    My bosses son was the No 15 for Kempton and he was there for the game as he is for all his sons games, and even though Kempton narrowly won the game he was upset over the coaches behaviour. We as responsible adults must conduct ourselves in front of our children and also the children that we have been trusted to teach/coach in a manner that will teach these children how to respect others and also how to be gracious in defeat no matter how many incorrect decisions are made against us. I believe that this coach should be removed from his position as he is unworthy of it. I coached under 16 soccer and never once did I behave like this or allow my players to behave in a manner unbecoming or that would bring the game into disrepute. I stand by the ref and also after reviewing what was the cause of the altercation the rules showed that the ref was correct in any case.

      Richard - 2012-05-16 12:11

      agree 100%

      johannes.p.bezuidenhout1 - 2012-05-16 12:14

      I Agree but, referees of other regions or provinces should handle games on the first team level. Impartialty will always be a problem and refs should behave at all times in a respectful manner. After all, it is the players' game.

      Merven - 2012-05-16 13:39

      'Impartialty will always be a problem ' They even had and expert opinion and the ref did nothing wrong.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-05-16 12:15

    Hooliganism and Idiotic behaviour. Ban the bastard.

  • Pieter Erasmus - 2012-05-16 12:34

    poor ref is scared for life...... may by all refs should get a hiding to be fair in the future

  • Flynn - 2012-05-16 12:54

    Sports bring people together - respect for one another should be first on the agenda on and off the field

      Merven - 2012-05-16 13:40

      In this case very together!

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