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Cop killers linked to doomsday cult

2011-01-18 22:37

Sutherland - The French couple who shot dead a police officer on Friday on the farm Hardie, about 24km outside Sutherland, and wounded another, had apparently become stranger by the day and even seemed "demonic".

Philippe Meniére, 60, shot Student Constable Jacob Boleme, 27, at point blank range. His life partner, Agnes Jardel, wounded Warrant Officer Glenwall du Toit, 42, in the back when he and two colleagues tried to flee.

The four police officials had a warrant to look for possible illegal firearms.

Apparently Meniére and Jardel were members of the Ramtha cult which originated in the US, and tried to involve the farm owner and his family in it.

The owner, Gerhardus du Plessis, wanted them off the farm because he started fearing for his family's safety, says his daughter-in-law, Jolene du Plessis.

According to her, they pestered her father-in-law to build an underground shelter for them.

"According to the Ramtha cult, the world will end in 2012. They believed they had to stockpile at least two years' food supplies.

Withdrew

"My father-in-law let them stay on the farm for free out of the goodness of his heart, but in time they became dissatisfied with everything," said Jolene.

"They withdrew from society, but still fed off it.  

"At our wedding two years ago they kept talking about the 'third eye'. It made us feel uncomfortable. They regularly held trance music dance festivals on the farm, played memory games and practiced telepathy. They wore black capes and Agnes had a black cat."

Jolene said the Meniéres know the farm well. "For the past 10 years they lived here in isolation without electricity, cellphones or computers."

"They're used to surviving," said Cobus du Plessis, the owner’s oldest son. "The cult and their lifestyle made them tough.

"No-one in town knew them, since during the past four years they almost never came to town," Jolene said.

"It's only our family who knew a little bit about them. Cobus and I often visited the French couple on the farm.

Intimidating

"We had lovely conversations about philosophy with them. They are intelligent people and had interesting perspectives, not all of which we agreed with.

"I was never really comfortable around Philippe. I found him intimidating. It was as if he was constantly trying to read my thoughts.

"I often chatted to Agnes and went walking in the veld with her. She told me a little bit about her work in the advertising industry.

"She's a very creative person. I always felt that she was starved for company."

According to Jolene, Jardel used to be a beautiful woman who "gestured a lot when she spoke" and loved red wine. "Two years ago at our wedding she danced the night away.

"They both have dark eyes, which have become very intense over the past two years. They started avoiding us more and more. The deeper they were sucked into the cult, the more isolated they became.

"My father-in-law was worried about them because they kept losing weight, as if they had no food. He offered to help them find work, but they didn't want his help. They didn't help out on the farm either.

"Philippe once said intelligent people don't have to work."

According to Jolene, the couple became stranger as time went by. "Their eyes became demonic. They became arrogant and aggressive."

On the run

Meanwhile, the "killer couple" are still missing.

The police suspect that they're hiding in the inhospitable Roggeveld Mountains near Sutherland.

"We suspect they're still in the area which stretches across a few thousand square kilometres," Hendrik Swart, police spokesperson for the Northern Cape, said on Tuesday from Kimberley.

"We're still searching the area where they fled to, since they wouldn't have got to far on foot. The search will also include neighbouring farms, where there are several empty houses."

Comments
  • SpeareShaker - 2011-01-18 23:09

    Take a life, give a life! A bounty should be put on their heads to find them dead or alive. Depending on the size of the bounty, they can be found very quickly, especially in South Africa.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:20

      You would bring race into it, wouldn't you Akhezi? Blacks have light eyes? Blacks can't be racists? If you want to speak about Christianity as a white mans religion I suggest you tell the black Coptic Christians of Ethiopia, who claim to be the original Christians and see what reaction you get. Educate yourself before making incorrect and inflammatory statements.

      Akhezi - 2011-01-19 16:59

      @Worldwise, So you understand that it doesn't make sense to group all black people into uncouth, backward, killers, unreasonable etc etc. neh? There are also white people that fit this group, no?

      misterjakes - 2011-01-19 19:52

      Akhezi, it is about statistics. As a percentage of the population group, blacks murder an inordinate amount more. Quite out of proportion...

      Worldwise - 2011-01-20 10:04

      Of course Akhezi. There are all sorts of persons in the group of backward unreasonable etc persons. I know many well adjusted intelligent and educated blacks that abhor what their race group is statistically the biggest culprit of. They also abhor BEE, AA and EO because it makes them look like they have been unfairly given a helping hand to get where they are. They see the ANC for what it is; - A marxist revolutionary movement that has failed to make the transition to a democratic government while nurturing a hidden Stalinist agenda. Unfortunately as part of the ANC's agenda to make South Africa ungovernable during apartheid, it spewed violence, non payment, hatred of whites, lies about a black utopia and general civil disobedeince. The ANC never had the foresight to devise a civil obedience and reconciliation plan for when they took over and we are now tasting the bitter fruits of the seeds they planted.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-20 10:13

      Of course Akhezi. There are all sorts of persons in the group of backward unreasonable etc persons. I know many well adjusted intelligent and educated blacks that abhor what their race group is statistically the biggest culprit of. They also abhor BEE, AA and EO because it makes them look like they have been unfairly given a helping hand to get where they are. They see the ANC for what it is; - A marxist revolutionary movement that has failed to make the transition to a democratic government while nurturing a hidden Stalinist agenda. Unfortunately as part of the ANC's agenda to make South Africa ungovernable during apartheid, it spewed violence, non payment, hatred of whites, lies about a black utopia and general civil disobedeince. The ANC never had the foresight to devise a civil obedience and reconciliation plan for when they took over and we are now tasting the bitter fruits of the seeds they planted.

      Akhezi - 2011-01-20 10:53

      @Worldwise - Tell me of a White dominated party that had the interests of black people right here in Africa. The DA?

      Worldwise - 2011-01-20 11:10

      @Ahkezi. The DA doesn't have the interests of black, white or any other people in South Africa at heart. Unlike the ANC, it is a non racial party. The ANC definitely doesn't have the interests of black people at heart either, their track record shows it. Less black matriculants at a lower standard than during apartheid (FACT), A bigger gap between rich and poor (FACT), Crumbling health services (FACT), crumbling infrastructure (FACT), I can go on. The ANC only has the interests of its elite and politically connected persons at heart, regardless of race or nationality. Examples being Brett Kebble, Shabir Shaik and the Gupta brothers.

      coolwaynie - 2011-01-20 13:31

      They've both been shot dead by the way.

      Lauren - 2011-01-20 21:33

      Akhezi, slowly with the assumption of understanding. It is my belief and understanding that my people are very slow tu change...speak of evolution, yeah??!!! Anyhoo, don't judge us all by the same standard. Please. All should be well. Much love.

  • askari.za - 2011-01-19 00:26

    The description and background of the couple as told by the owner and his family is getting further and further from the initial reports.

  • jouplesier - 2011-01-19 00:46

    "They both have dark eyes, which have become very intense over the past two years." "Their eyes became demonic. They became arrogant and aggressive." dark eyes = demonic? -maybe they are just some emo kids wearing fake contact lenses or something...then again, 80% of parliament have dark eyes, so maybe its not such a big accusation after all

      Doorboot - 2011-01-19 07:12

      Lol

      Perfume - 2011-01-19 07:55

      ROFL!!!!

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:23

      @Ahkezi. Christianity is also a cult begun by Paul and spread by the Roman Emperor Constantine and thereafter the Popes of the Roman Catholic church. All were white people. Get your facts straight before making uneducated statements and showing your lack of education on a public forum.

      SiphovdMerwe - 2011-01-19 15:24

      @Worldwisse, you are too wise for your own good Adjective: cult - "Enjoyed by a small, loyal group" Noun: cult - "Followers xclusive system of religious beliefs and practices, of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader"

      Worldwise - 2011-01-20 10:55

      @ SiphivdMerwe. Please explain what is meant by orthodox, false religion and "conventional society". Atheists see all religions as false. Conventional society in Japan is very different to conventional society in Papua New Guinea. What is a "Small" group? In a population of 3 billion, 1 million is small. In a population of 1.5 million, 1 million is big. Christianity has many fundamentalis, extremist charismatic leaders as well, so your description fits Christianity quite well. You're also trying to explain "normal", which doesn't exist.

      ekke - 2011-01-20 11:41

      And don't forget that "...and Agnes had a black cat..." So having black cats also make one demonic these days...?lol

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 12:25

      Please understand that those words were firstly in Afrikaans, and not at all what i was trying to say. I have extremely dark eyes myself. I was merely referring to the colour of their eyes - it was a description, nothing else. I said they had become arrogant, yes, because they were not open to anyone else's suggestions anymore and they did not want to work as they were 'intellectuals'. Please don't believe everything you read and remenmber there are real people involved. The media loves exaggerating and blowing what we say out of proportion.

  • boomboomdoom - 2011-01-19 06:24

    Hear here, prepare yourselves, the year 2012 is near.

      John Seloa - 2011-01-19 15:01

      Prepare ourselves for what? Why don't you start by commiting suicide? Maybe a couple of peverts similar to you will follow suite.

      jean.dutoit - 2011-01-20 09:06

      2012 will mark the end of the World... Of Warcraft. :-P

      spartsa100 - 2011-01-20 10:28

      @jean....Pleeeassse no! My hunter is only on lvl 36....;)

      Christo - 2011-01-20 11:38

      lol @ World of Warcraft comments :p

      Lanfear - 2011-01-20 12:17

      @ spartsa100 - ROFL! You need until 2012 to reach lvl 80? [or is it 90 by now?] I stopped playing WOW more than a year ago... was great times though! Best MMO ever. As for the 2012 end of the world cults, well they will be gaining momentum until 01 January 2013, when the world wakes up and nothing literally earth-shattering happened. Just like the millenium craze at the end of 1999. Gullible people, stupid and fearful.

  • steven.m.armour - 2011-01-19 06:31

    Demon Possessed

      quack - 2011-01-19 06:42

      plus they have a black cat ! eish, must be possessed then

      pointblankza - 2011-01-19 09:35

      i'VE GOT 4 BLACK CATS.... !!

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:25

      I have dark eyes, a black cat and 3 black dobermans. I must be possessed as well.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:26

      Sorry, forgot to mention my black laptop, wallet, chair, DVD recoreder and many others. I must be truly possessed.

      Readytogo - 2011-01-19 16:29

      I constantly wear black... What does that make me? A witch..... LOL! Black hides your figure well thats all.

      Flee - 2011-01-20 11:20

      Wear Black Clothes, have a black cat and rottweiler.. hhhmm I am the devil reincarnate... Be realist Chop....

  • coolwaynie - 2011-01-19 06:46

    Typical French..never happy with anything :-))

      Janine - 2011-01-19 08:06

      Nice!

      pointblankza - 2011-01-19 09:35

      French are well known to be really grumpy..

      Howzitekse - 2011-01-19 12:28

      You can't take them anywhere....

      Mundu - 2011-01-19 21:46

      Yeah I agree, bloody French a pointless nation.

      Jules - 2011-01-20 07:57

      you guys have no brains,blaming a whole nation because of two individuals,you know nothing about the french,wake up

      Blue - 2011-01-20 09:34

      jules... bietjie blond vandag ne? or maby you also have a black cat?

      pointblankza - 2011-01-20 12:00

      Why not, they refer to all of us as dirty uneducated Africans?

  • Will99 - 2011-01-19 06:55

    This is starting into a weird story!

  • Jakkals - 2011-01-19 06:55

    Ek wonder wat het rerig gebeur? Polisie se weergawes is partymaal te soet vir woorde

  • ArtGee - 2011-01-19 06:56

    Just think.... There are people that BELIEVE the World will END in 2012..... and there are people that BELIEVE the ANC CAN rule.... Strange World eh!

      IandI - 2011-01-19 07:35

      The ANC believes they will rule until Jesus returns.Maybe they also believe the world is coming to an end in 2012. That would be a short 18yrs of misrule, wouldn't it?

      Johnny - 2011-01-19 08:05

      ...bad news for the ANC government...!! ....Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...!!

      John Seloa - 2011-01-19 15:02

      And how did the ANC come into this?

  • AJ - 2011-01-19 06:58

    Well the Doomsday cult is partially correct, because this couple's world will come to an end in 2012 after the trial is wrapped up.

      vutbtech - 2011-01-19 08:23

      Ha Ha Ha Ha... The end is near...for that couple, if they don't die of hunger in the mountains.

  • Doorboot - 2011-01-19 07:11

    It is the black cat! Everybody knows that you are demon posessed if you own a black cat. They should have kicked them of the farm the moment they saw that cat.

      WPWW - 2011-01-19 07:48

      you dont have to kick them off but you must catch the cat and kill it, if it cries like a baby at nite on your roof then it is bad muti and you must kill it.

      blueheat - 2011-01-19 07:52

      I've got 2 black cats..............what happens to me? hie hie hie

      IandI - 2011-01-19 08:53

      @blueheat Are you the wicked witch of the West? If so, we're meeting under the old oak tree by the river at midnight. PS.Bring the cat:-))

      pointblankza - 2011-01-19 09:36

      I got 4 black cats :) Come to me my loyal worshipers :) Bring muffins :)

      Blue - 2011-01-20 09:38

      you guys are great.. a bit of laughter is all that anyone ever needs. pointblankza I don't have a black cat but I do have two black and white dogs can I also come for the muffins?

      pointblankza - 2011-01-20 12:01

      @Blue, of course - all are welcome even if you own a black and white rat ;) However, the smaller the animal the more muffins you need to bring!

  • princess.arlene - 2011-01-19 07:21

    I have a black cat. His black parts must be demonic, to match my eyes. His white parts are either unemployed, or angelic. 2012 will be the end of the world for many people. Road accident stats, murders, suicides, old age......Membership is free and waiting. This French couple can join earlier if they wish.

      Helaine - 2011-01-20 12:20

      Please note - This article is not accurate - I have a cat too and have nothing against cats, I never even saw this black cat, I'd only heard that she recently got one and did not imply anything demonic about this cat. It is a shame that people believe everything they read.

  • Pappa Smurf - 2011-01-19 07:48

    If they had a white cat it would have been a different story altogether.

  • sdepierres - 2011-01-19 07:50

    these is serious hearsay.....black eyes......black cat...too much Twilight and True Blood if you ask me..

  • sdepierres - 2011-01-19 07:50

    these is serious hearsay.....black eyes......black cat...too much Twilight and True Blood if you ask me..

  • ji - 2011-01-19 07:51

    first the story was , the farmer wanted them to leave as the farmer wanted to renovate and have his family stay there now the farmer feared for his family and once they were all friends now the tenants are evil and have black eyes so they are demonic .... are all people and creatures that have black eyes demonic ??? the farmer and family all knew about the illegal guns , for more than ten years , but only went to the police now ???

  • Nibiru - 2011-01-19 08:03

    See you in 2012

  • Moi1980 - 2011-01-19 08:10

    Well, this was definitely good for a laugh. "They own a black cat" always a sure sign of the most terrible evil! Seriously, some people just have way too much time on their hands. What does them having a black cat and dark eyes have to do with the murder?????

      ohanret - 2011-01-19 12:55

      Can't you read between the lines: It's a sure sign that you are an evil, demonic, and murderous person!

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 15:15

      exactly, not at all relevant to this article!

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 15:26

      exactly my point - I did mention she had a cat, but meant nothing at all by it., And my eyes are dark too - I wasn't trying to imply anything, I was merely describing what they look like. Also, remember this conversation went on for a long time and snippets are used and taken out of context. For instance - we never called their beliefs a cult, my husband never referred to them being tough as a result of their cult. We just said they are fit people, they excercised a lot and they were used to surviving on little. Please don't waste your time on reading these blown up newspaper articles.

  • preshengovender69 - 2011-01-19 08:15

    Society is very racist towards black cats if the cat was ginger or white it will not be an issue

  • shmangle - 2011-01-19 08:32

    Oh No! A black cat and trance music? The evil bastards! Say it ain't so!

      Blue - 2011-01-20 09:41

      hahahahaha oh my.. that was a good one....

  • Nice Guy - 2011-01-19 08:33

    They are French so shouldn't we rather focus on finding them in Stellenbosh where the wine is? I hear they were spotted there at the local Nandos ordering extra hot chicken wings to go with their pinotage

      Fran - 2011-01-19 08:55

      Stellenbosch doesn't have a Nandos....

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:29

      Read the original report. They're South African citizens.

  • pieter.bosch - 2011-01-19 08:34

    I foresee that a raindrop will fall on my head during the coming week!! I will be here confirming the drop beginning of next week. Therefore you have to believe 2012 is the end of the year it has been foretold...ha ha ha

  • theStained - 2011-01-19 08:39

    send some dogs after them...they'll have no problem picking them up!

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:44

      They are in inhospitable terrain thousands of square kilometres big. There are mountains and hundreds of kilometres of dirt road where you can see an approaching vehicle from 10 km away due to the dust cloud. Plenty of time to hide. Tiny towns are an average of 100 km apart. There are kloofs, rock shelters, water, plants and sheep to eat. Move by night and rest in a rock shelter by day and not even a chopper will find you. Set the dogs off just 1 km from the wrong area and they'll be useless anyway. Where do you suggest they start? The area is swarming with 4X4 police vehicles. I have seen the dog unit from De Aar's vehicles 100 km from Sutherland as well. Comment when you know the terrain or have visited the area. The area is known as the Moordenaars (Murderers) Karoo because thats where murderers on the run used to flee to as it is so difficult to find anyone there.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:46

      They are in inhospitable terrain thousands of square kilometres big. There are mountains and hundreds of kilometres of dirt road where you can see an approaching vehicle from 10 km away due to the dust cloud. Plenty of time to hide. Tiny towns are an average of 100 km apart. There are kloofs, rock shelters, water, plants and sheep to eat. Move by night and rest in a rock shelter by day and not even a chopper will find you. Set the dogs off just 1 km from the wrong area and they'll be useless anyway. Where do you suggest they start? The area is swarming with 4X4 police vehicles. I have seen the dog unit from De Aar's vehicles 100 km from Sutherland as well. Comment when you know the terrain or have visited the area. The area is known as the Moordenaars (Murderers) Karoo because thats where murderers on the run used to flee to as it is so difficult to find anyone there.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:49

      They are in inhospitable terrain thousands of square kilometres big. There are mountains and hundreds of kilometres of dirt road where you can see an approaching vehicle from 10 km away due to the dust cloud. Plenty of time to hide. Tiny towns are an average of 100 km apart. There are kloofs, rock shelters, water, plants and sheep to eat. Move by night and rest in a rock shelter by day and not even a chopper will find you. Set the dogs off just 1 km from the wrong area and they'll be useless anyway. Where do you suggest they start? The area is swarming with 4X4 police vehicles. I have seen the dog unit from De Aar's vehicles 100 km from Sutherland as well. Comment when you know the terrain or have visited the area. The area is known as the Moordenaars (Murderers) Karoo because thats where murderers on the run used to flee to as it is so difficult to find anyone there.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 12:02

      Sorry for triple posting. Computer and News 24 glitch.

  • JDuvenhage - 2011-01-19 08:39

    1. 'The four police officials had a warrant to look for possible illegal firearms.' - One 60 year old man and a 42 year old woman. One police officer dead, one wounded and the others fled? Oh my word that is so wrong. 2. 'They both have dark eyes, which have become very intense over the past two years.' MOHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAA! 3. 'Their eyes became demonic. They became arrogant and aggressive.' We live in the 21st century where science and man has grown to such an extent that the supernatural world is fictatious. This is such a 16th century mentality blaming some demonic force, please, these people are a bit screwy. I do wish some novelist catches this story - it would make an absolutely WONDERFULL movie don't you think? French coule, secluded farm, cults and murder. They are on foot an apparently good at it too. Would love to hear there story.

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 15:32

      I never said their eyes were demonic. Their eyes were intense in the sense that when we spoke to them they looked at you the whole time and tried to convince you - haven't you seen an intense look in someone's eyes. The dark eyes have no relevance here.

  • Impartial - 2011-01-19 08:42

    scarry shit...

  • Darwinian - 2011-01-19 08:46

    50 police officers.....6 DAYs....no result

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:56

      Read my reply above.

  • Barry M - 2011-01-19 09:00

    Bring in a few Bushmen trackers - they will find them soon enough!

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:59

      And just where do you find Bushmen trackers these days. 101 Battalion was disbanded by the ANC after 1994. The unit no longer exists. You can find the old survivors living a life of poverty, asbestosis, and alcoholism at places like Pomfret and Schmidtsdrift because they worked for the SADF and not the ANC.

  • Picasso - 2011-01-19 09:05

    "Philippe once said intelligent people don't have to work" That explains our government!!

  • Enigma - 2011-01-19 09:11

    Eish! Now I am confused and have a serious identity crisis with you guys linking my pets to my sanity, spirituality and wot not. Ag nee man. I have two cats. One white, one black. Now what? My eyes are light brown but please don't tell me a lot of crap, then believe me, they will be very dark! Does not mean I am demonic. But by the way. Don't mess with demons, they are more powerful than you can imagine.

      carina - 2011-01-19 11:17

      I'm also confused now. We have five cats - two ginger, two tortoiseshell and one black. The weird thing is that the black cat refuses to leave me alone and I don't even give it attention. The moment I sit somewhere she will jump on me and bother me for attention. So am I also possessed? Oooohhhhh Ag please!

      jansteyn78 - 2011-01-19 15:29

      Carina, the black cat wants your soul... Surrender now or... She told me telepathically.

  • Picasso - 2011-01-19 09:30

    This story is really weird. The french hide on the farm because they are afraid the world will end in 2012, the police arrive to look for illegal weapons. If you are hiding why do you need weapons? Or are the weapons there to defend the food supplies? Also, why would the police expect to get illegal firearms there? There is something very fishy going on there.

  • pointblankza - 2011-01-19 09:38

    Shake a packet of Whiskers..

  • Terence - 2011-01-19 09:40

    They have a Black Cat? Rediculous - Blame everything on Apartheid. Condolences to the families of the poor SAP`s.

  • Nebkad - 2011-01-19 09:52

    This is the first account of the story I am reading and already I sense something just isn't right. 1) "No-one in town knew them," -Is this fact? 2) "since during the past four years they almost never came to town," -Is this true? 3) "wounded Warrant Officer Glenwall du Toit, 42, in the back when he and two colleagues tried to flee." -Just how heavily armed was this couple to make the cops to flee??? -Did the cops know that the couple was armed? - Did the fleeing cops call for back-up, if not why? - Did the fleeing cops fire a single shot, if not why? - How/Why did the couple aim at the student (who'd not be ordinarily expected to be close to the action, as he was with two seniors)? - How did father-in-law and the couple meet? - For how long was father-in-law intending to accommodate the couple? - Does this "couple" actually exist??????

      Picasso - 2011-01-19 10:51

      "Did the cops know that the couple was armed?" sounds like the police expected it hence the search warrant. "Does this "couple" actually exist??????" I think it is a bunch of right wingers, so they can not blame Apartheid so they blame the Frence.

      Anne - 2011-01-20 04:15

      No, they don't exist. It's a spook that killed the policeman and wounded the other one. Being spooks, they can easily vanish when they want to. That's why they can't find them!

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 12:46

      1) we knew them personally, but they were private people 2) This is an EXTREMELY small town, so everyone knew of them and believe me, most people have been here over the last 12 years - things don't change much here - everyone had seen them in the past. They send for supplies since there car was not registered anymore. So when the farmer ( my father in law) went to the farm over weekends, he took their groceries with him. 3)They were not sure where the shots were coming from and it happened too fast. My husband and his brother are not farmers or cops, they are normal working guys and had no guns. So what else could they do? No comment on the rest -not sure There is absolutely no cell reception on the farm - they found reception on a small koppie and phoned town for back up. Our police is a small unit as we are a small town, so they called backup from other towns like Calvinia and Fraserburg etc We are not sure, but from what I understand the man was right next to the student. My father in-law met them in Sutherland. They had been staying here for about 2 years and rented a room in a house near to him. So they had casual conversations and they mentioned that they were looking for accomodation on a farm. He was only on the farm during summer over weekends as he has a job in town too, so it was good to have someone on the farm. they had an initial lease agreement of 5 years, which had expired, but they did not want to move.

  • mike.mellor1 - 2011-01-19 10:14

    Philippe Meniere told reporters, "They started it. They called us Frogs and kept on saying 'Ribbit.'"

      JDuvenhage - 2011-01-19 11:06

      HAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!

      IandI - 2011-01-19 11:55

      The police should know that a good kiss will turn any frog into a prince.C'mmon..kiss the French ,or should that be French-kiss them??

  • Melly30 - 2011-01-19 11:22

    Google - The Galactic Federation of light... Very intersting site! With regards to the end of the world!!!

  • pillay.sudashin - 2011-01-19 11:50

    What happened to the "shoot to kill" policy Were the cops carrying P Shooters and therefore had to run for their lives

  • Paolo - 2011-01-19 11:51

    hj,fhj,.

  • Worldwise - 2011-01-19 11:52

    To those decrying the police's inability to catch the couple, I have the following to say: They are in inhospitable terrain thousands of square kilometres big. There are mountains and hundreds of kilometres of dirt road where you can see an approaching vehicle from 10 km away due to the dust cloud. Plenty of time to hide. Tiny towns are an average of 100 km apart. There are kloofs, rock shelters, water, plants and sheep to eat. Move by night and rest in a rock shelter by day and not even a chopper will find you. Set the dogs off just 1 km from the wrong area and they'll be useless anyway. Where do you suggest they start? The area is swarming with 4X4 police vehicles. I have seen the dog unit from De Aar's vehicles 100 km from Sutherland as well. Comment when you know the terrain or have visited the area. The area is known as the Moordenaars (Murderers) Karoo because thats where murderers on the run used to flee to as it is so difficult to find anyone there.

      pointblankza - 2011-01-19 13:59

      "I bet you(or ancestors) hid there a couple of times." - Dude seriously was that warranted? Asshole.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 14:53

      Once again a racist/ancestoral swipe where no race was mentioned. In contrast, I will not report the post to News 24 as your type does to have my FACTUAL comments removed, Motswanagape. I am mature enough to see it for what it is and will defend your right to freedom of speech, even if you insult me by using that freedom. Now grow up and contribute to the debate and stop flinging snide remarks around.

      Blue - 2011-01-20 09:51

      worldwise did anyone ever tell you that your world wisdom is extremely boring?

      Worldwise - 2011-01-20 11:15

      @Blue. No, you are the first. You are welcome to articulate your reasons and offer constructive criticism on how I can become less boring. If you cannot articulate on this I will have to assume that my comments are above your intellectual capacity. And please News 24, stop deleting posts like Motswangape's, I am mature enough to handle them without your big brother attitude.

      Lauren - 2011-01-20 21:29

      Thank you, Worldwide..from from an Afrikaner vrot banana!!

  • goughdd - 2011-01-19 12:00

    I really object to the article mentioning "Agnes had a black cat" as though this really confirmed these people had something wrong with them. The poor bloody cat has nothing to do with this and one wonders what happened to it. There is so much superstition about cats and black ones in particular that as a member of CatPals which manages and protects feral cats and homes their kittens I am aware of the dreadful fate that befalls them thanks to stupid and cruel superstitions. Shame on the reporter for including this. It is irresponsible.

      Anne - 2011-01-20 04:18

      Exactly. I thought we had moved past the Middle Ages, but no, some are still firmly stuck there.

      jolene.duplessis - 2011-01-20 12:35

      I agree, nothing was meant by this and it was taken out of context.

  • Infidel04 - 2011-01-19 12:05

    Uhm... Since when is Ramtha a doomsday cult? Christians reckon that "Judgment Day / The Rapture / The end of the world" is coming on the 21st of May 2011 and they dont get labelled as "doomsday" anything. http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/ Why does their belief system have anything to do with it, perhaps their obvious Mental health issues should have been blamed first.

  • Infidel04 - 2011-01-19 12:11

    Uhm... Since when is Ramtha a doomsday cult? Christians reckon that "Judgment Day / The Rapture / The end of the world" is coming on the 21st of May 2011 and they dont get labelled as "doomsday" anything. http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/ Why does their belief system have anything to do with it, perhaps their obvious Mental health issues should have been blamed first.

      trueblu&real - 2011-01-19 13:18

      Infidel04, A) Judgement day and the rapture are two totally different events B) Nowhere in the Bible is a date given for either of the these events, so please don't state that Christians say that they will occur on some or other date. C) Regarding your defense of Ramtha, you need to understand the meaning of deception. Obviously if you want to draw people, you at least have to do a good job on the marketing side. Satan comes as "an angel of light" in other words in order to deceive, the message comes with an element of truth in it.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 14:41

      All religions are cults. Look up the word in the dictionary. Just because you believe the teachings af your particular cult are true doesn't make it any more valid than any other cult.

  • Soothsayer - 2011-01-19 12:27

    "..they pestered her father-in-law to build an underground shelter for them." I thought in 21 December 2012 everything will be doomed.

      Infidel04 - 2011-01-19 12:50

      Ramtha does not predict 'doom' in 2012. Ramtha predicts enlightenment through knowldege. A revelation of truth. An awakening of consciousness. Certainly not death... or doom. Ramtha also speaks of achieving it through nothing but knowldegde and love for oneself and the world. Show me one violent quote from a Ramtha text? Show me one justification of killing another human being in his teachings? All I'm saying is that anyone's perception or interpretation of a belief is different, and mostly misinterpreted by whichever way an individual chooses to believe something. They would have been violent even if they where from any other belief. Here's what he says on the topic: "There is coming a day very soon when great knowledge will be brought to this plane by wonderful entities who are your beloved brothers. In that time, scientific developments will bloom here greater than they ever have. What is coming forth is called the age of God. This age will come about through a deliberate change in time and the values of time. In the years to come, disease, suffering, hatred and war will no longer be upon this plane. No longer will there be the aging and death of the body, but continuous life. It is through knowledge, understanding, and profound love that these things will come forth in the life of each entity." - Ramtha, the White book.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 14:38

      Jeez..... Ramtha sounds just like the Christian bible does.

  • ikabot - 2011-01-19 12:57

    Please raise your editorial standards. Every other day, I find spelling or grammar errors in your articles. For example, what does "since they wouldn't have got to far on foot" mean? Should it not be "since they wouldn't have gotten too far on foot"? Or are those Hendrik Swart's words verbatum? Nevertheless, this is just one example of the almost daily errors I see in your publications. Come on. You're a multinational media empire, not a teenaged kid with a blog.

      John Seloa - 2011-01-19 15:05

      Thanks Prof "ikabot," who does not even know that a name starts with a capital letter. I suggest you navigate away from this site and maybe join a cult yourself. How does this sound?

      maseratifitt - 2011-01-20 10:09

      ikabot : The writer saw "far" as a destination. So it is quite correct to say "they wouldn't have got to far on foot"

  • coolwaynie - 2011-01-19 14:00

    Frenchies giving us uphill. Just for this we must snot them in the rugby.

  • rob.hodgkiss - 2011-01-19 14:10

    Surely where there is a warranted search for a suspected illegal arms cache and the suspects are present, the deployment of at least one anti-terrorism team should be a standard procedure??

      Worldwise - 2011-01-19 14:45

      So you'd like a SWAT team to break your house down because the neighbour with a grudge against you reported to the cops that he suspects you have an illegal firearm in your house? An act of terrorism must be committed before you can be charged with terrorism.

  • Digit - 2011-01-19 14:52

    The IRONY !!!! The world will end in 2012. That means there will not be a 2014 !!!! ... but we need underground shelters stockpiled with 2 years food !!!!! interesting ... do we need to feed the aliens coming after us too ?

  • Michele Klemp - 2011-01-19 15:17

    They had a black cat? Does everyone who has a black cat belong to some evil cult? What irresponsible reporting! Next thing - black cats are going to be slaughtered because they are evil. Disappointed in this reporting.

  • timostew - 2011-01-19 16:14

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Talk about discrimination. Poeple of major faiths have killed for less, 9/11, charles manson, the religions are not to blame its the f!!!@d up religious fanatics- that some of you so obviously are, calling people of different beliefs perverts and evil. Fools:D

  • Dan - 2011-01-19 16:23

    All these dooms day prophets make me sick. Some believe 21 May 2011 and some believe 21 December 2012 will be the end of the world. I just hope that the day after, they will all disappear from this world and allow the sane people to continue in peace. ALL these end of the world prophets are demonic in my eyes and so far away removed from Christianity or faith that it is almost a joke.

  • nick - 2011-01-19 16:43

    i once knew a guy that had a black cat........he was red and had horns and a tail!