Cop to be promoted after 12-year wait

2011-02-16 17:41

Johannesburg - The Labour Court ordered on Wednesday that a policeman should finally be promoted after waiting 12 years for advancement, trade union Solidarity said.

The court ordered that Lieutenant Colonel Johannes Jacobus Deetlefs be promoted to colonel, said Solidarity deputy general secretary Dirk Hermann in a statement.

"Deetlefs is an experienced and capable employee who spent years fighting for promotion and for recognition of the work he did. Justice has finally prevailed," he said.

Deetlefs had been a lieutenant-colonel in the police's crime intelligence unit. He was the commander of the interception and monitoring component.

"Although the post was not advertised and Deetlefs performed all the duties and responsibilities associated with the rank of senior superintendent, he presented reasons for upgrading his post to the rank of senior superintendent. However, he was not promoted."

The post was advertised in August 2009, and Deetlefs applied for it. He and two other candidates were called for interviews.

"Even though Deetlefs was identified as the best candidate for the post by the interview panel and met all the requirements of the post, he was not promoted.

"A second round of interviews was held with Deetlefs and two other candidates in September. Once again he was identified as the best candidate, but he was not promoted," said Hermann.

Deetlefs lodged a grievance in December 2009.

"The SAPS informed him that 50% representation of women was required in the police and that Deetlef's appointment in the post in question would have impeded this target."

In May last year, he lodged a compliant with the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration (CCMA) and the matter was referred to the labour court.

The court ruled in his favour on Wednesday.

  • Pierre - 2011-02-16 18:00

    I will bet my months salary the Police will take this ruling on review any takers

  • Worldwise - 2011-02-16 18:02

    Once again AA and EO prevented the best person for the job, who was actually doing the job anyway, from being recognised and promoted into the post he was occupying for 12 years. Balancing the racial quotas is far more important to the ANC than having an efficient police force. So long as they can present sheets of paper to parliament that show what a good transformation job they are doing, the actual functioning of their departments is secondary. Real banana republic stuff.

  • Johan - 2011-02-16 18:16

    well done - about time someone show the ANC and the system a brown eye

  • briansmith702 - 2011-02-16 18:21

    Typical of the ANC's cadre and AA policy. No wonder why we have a f**k*p of a SAPS.

  • Freakfloyd - 2011-02-16 18:23

    Well done, I hope you get backpay, Thanks Solidarity, Good work. It will show the ANC, that they don't always get their own way.

      AJ - 2011-02-17 05:42

      Yeah if he has been doing the job tasks then he must get back pay.

  • ProudofPink - 2011-02-16 18:23

    Well done Deetleefs. The ANC and their AA and BEE and OOOO with a D at the front and an S at the end are beyond pathetic.

  • saliem - 2011-02-16 18:42

    This is a serious blow for the attainment of targets for demographic representation in the SAPS

      BigMoose - 2011-02-16 18:53

      And a serious blow to the racist ANC labour policies. - 2011-02-16 21:25

      This kind of crippled thinking was already answered most effectively by Worldwise you numbskull. Is quotas all you think about? What about the crime victims?

      ryan.macdougall - 2011-02-16 22:06

      BUD 12 years. That means at least a few members of AA were advanced. If the Guy is very good at his job then he deserves this. What i cant understand is how he was able to wait 12 years being the best person for the job. demograpic targets means that we would probibly loose this asset to a first world country where many South African offerces are joinig European police. Isay well done bud party your ass off your deserve it!

      AJ - 2011-02-17 05:46

      @saliem - how is it a serious blow if the guy was DOING the job in any case year after year. He is not stepping INTO a NEW role. He is just getting paid for the role he HAS been doing for years. Save your disappoinment for his superiors who clearly took advantage of someone in their employ as it it saved them the EFFORT of actually going and finding some more 'demographically' appropriate.

  • Swartvel - 2011-02-16 18:48

    Listen guys, we must support this ruling and if the police appeal this ruling then we people of all colour must stand up and say no more waisting of our tax them our people had enough!!!

      saliem - 2011-02-16 18:50

      @ Swartvel... Waisting? Is this a new type of diet? :P

      diamondog - 2011-02-16 19:05

      saliem, you a twunt

      Valkerie - 2011-02-16 19:55

      I agree Swartvel. Jobs should go to those who've earned them, and not by the numbers.

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-16 18:48

    50% women? It's as bad as affirmative action. Promote and give people jobs on merit and nothing else. As a woman, I hate this crap that women are weak and need special treatment. I know I wouldn't take a job because it was given to me because I am a woman. I'd be insulted and would want the job on my performance.

  • YasButIDunno - 2011-02-16 18:48

    Can I make a suggestion here please: why don't we ALL join Solidarity? They have shown themselves to be unafraid of the bullying tactics of the ANC cadres as in the Whinny Madikizela-whatever case. Our subs could be the basis for the much-needed change in this country. Where do I sign up?

      Chibuli - 2011-02-16 20:31

      Not a bad idea! The true democrats in this country need to join forces and stand up against the autocratic, racist policies of the ANC (including AA, BEE, EO, so-called "transformation", etc. We expect good governance, and this can only come from appointing the best people available into public sector posts - even if they are pale-male. There is no justification for discrimination in ANY form. We ALL have equal rights and opportunities - that's what a democracy is all about. Anyone who tries to justify racial policies is admitting to the failure of the great South African Democracy which the people struggled for, and ultimately the failure of ANC policy.

  • a.bryanh - 2011-02-16 18:58

    must be extremely difficult working in an organisation that has daily accusations of corruption levelled against it,even at the promotion level.And the politicians that do corrupt things cannot be brought to book.

  • diamondog - 2011-02-16 19:04

    I is beyond my comprehension why any white or colored or Indian would want to work for the police. Or any government department, for that matter. You up against a million blacks--where do you think you will go? Rather start your own business.

  • Peter - 2011-02-16 20:21


      Worldwise - 2011-02-17 08:47

      @Peter. I see that you went to the Waldorf School in Constantia. That is supposedly one of the best schools around. Did you fall asleep in class when they taught you punctuation and the different uses of capital and small letters?

  • Sizwe - 2011-02-16 20:21

    Anyone care to complain about the current labour legislation here as well, since the CCMA et al are a hinderance to productivity??

  • Jonhy - 2011-02-16 21:16

    Does anyone know what the cost of this case was. I just wonder how many houses might have been build and or jobs created. Maybe a few potholes might have been filed even. It is high time that personal accountability come into play as this would stop the senseless spending of tax payers money.

  • AJ - 2011-02-17 05:41

    Justice delayed is not justice.

  • Alwyn - 2011-02-17 07:40

    i left the cops as a Captain in the rank for 6 years were due for promotion but instead got a person ,my junior in the same rank who became my boss,his incompetancy was evident every day but the high brass covered for him ,today im in the private sector ,double my SAP pay with benefits,No place for white cops in the SAPF,

  • Ryan - 2011-03-31 00:03

    I am Glad someone stood up against the system Some people think that its always about statistics instead of performace and you prooved them wrong

  • Johann - 2012-03-25 16:17

    Here is an ecelent ecsample of the ANC racist atitude in all state institutes .Another piont in time is the promotion of people that were members ofthe vip protection unit from the rank of sargent to colonel how do any person in his right mind put the two toghter, but theANC will deny this.Pierre i agree with you

  • Johann - 2012-03-25 16:32

    Worldwise so sorry to dare respond to you,but i think you response to Peter is imuture and uncalled for.You are not disputing his ideas but playing the man,by the way i liked your comment your comment

  • Thomas Moloto - 2013-04-21 23:01

    Stop point fingers about corrupt yourself are corrupt.we see that when promotions are being located to members,you don't practice what you are more than worse ,you don't even notice that.

  • Just me - 2013-04-29 12:37

    It's all a f'ing joke. From the private sector right down to the army and Police. Some dumb black tit is apparently better educated than what I am, with no educations except basic education and, because he's black, he has to get the job. Rulings like this is doing more harm than good to the country's citizens and that is why we leave the job then and foff overseas then.

  • Just me - 2013-04-29 12:43

    I know of an sergeant that was promoted overnight to Colonel just because he had the right contacts "family members" in place. From sergeant to Colonel - explain that to me me.

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