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Pistorius scene pics in big demand

2013-03-08 22:14

Johannesburg - Media offered big money for photographs of the door through which Paralympian Oscar Pistorius shot his girlfriend, former investigating officer Hilton Botha said on Friday.

He said he was told some police officers were offered $50 000 (R453 625) and others were offered between R2 000 and R5 000 a few days after the Valentine's Day shooting.

"I then realised that [the door] was not safe and that it should be sent away otherwise it would have impeded the case of both sides," Botha said.

He said the door needed to be removed as evidence and for forensic tests to be conducted anyway.

Pistorius stands accused of murdering Reeva Steenkamp in his Pretoria home.

In an affidavit submitted as part of his bail application, Pistorius said he thought he was shooting at an intruder, through a closed bathroom door.

He was granted R1m bail on Friday, 22 February. He was allowed to pay an initial instalment of R100 000, with the balance due by 1 March.

Steenkamp was cremated in a private ceremony in Port Elizabeth on 19 February.

Pistorius's next court appearance is on 4 June.

Comments
  • Nerine van der Merwe - 2013-03-08 22:36

    and now nobody knows where this door is........

      Gerard Labuschagne - 2013-03-08 23:25

      the door is in the custody of the SAPS

      Gerard Labuschagne - 2013-03-08 23:25

      the door is in the custody of the SAPS

      JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-09 09:53

      Untill it escapes

  • Beverley Ainsworth - 2013-03-08 22:41

    I still can't understand why Reeva was cremated before the investigation was over. Why wasn't she buried in case they missed something and she could be exhumed for more forensic evidence. Something isn't right about this shooting incident.

      Jill.Robinson10 - 2013-03-09 06:41

      Nothing unusual about her burial/cremation. Assuming there is a proficient coroners report - they have everything needed for the court case. Now - if a sloppy job was done, then there is more fuel for the Defense team to use against the investigation.

      Jill.Robinson10 - 2013-03-09 06:41

      Nothing unusual about her burial/cremation. Assuming there is a proficient coroners report - they have everything needed for the court case. Now - if a sloppy job was done, then there is more fuel for the Defense team to use against the investigation.

      Piet Motsoeneng - 2013-03-09 06:49

      I have the same concerns Beverley, but then again some families just dont like the idea and prefer to let their deceased loved one to jus rest in peace.

      Piet Motsoeneng - 2013-03-09 06:49

      I have the same concerns Beverley, but then again some families just dont like the idea and prefer to let their deceased loved one to jus rest in peace.

      Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-09 07:22

      Maybe she has not been cremated and her body is being kept for just that! It has happened before with or without the families knowledge

      Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-09 07:22

      Maybe she has not been cremated and her body is being kept for just that! It has happened before with or without the families knowledge

      Uwanano365 - 2013-03-09 07:43

      I agree... I too didn't get that

      Uwanano365 - 2013-03-09 07:43

      I agree... I too didn't get that

      Jack - 2013-03-09 07:48

      I wondered that too. Stupid move. Shows the depth of intelligence in SAPS.

      Jack - 2013-03-09 07:48

      I wondered that too. Stupid move. Shows the depth of intelligence in SAPS.

      andre.nel.106 - 2013-03-09 14:35

      The post Morten was don by one of the best in SA, no need to keep the body, and what about the family of Reeva, they have the right for an funeral, get real . what if it was your child? Stop blaming the SAPS for everything. Then W/O Botha testify in court that OP is a flight risk he was the laughing stock of the country and now what is going on OP want his passport to leave the country

      Laura Freire - 2013-03-09 19:53

      Exact my fears. I wonder if there is a religious reason for her hasty. cremation.

      Mbali Makhathini - 2013-03-11 09:40

      I think that Reeva's parents felt that nothing would bring their daughter back it did not matter to them whether they barry her or cremate her.

  • Nkulié LövélyGöddéss Màkhubu - 2013-03-08 22:48

    Interesting

  • Christal L. Maasdorp - 2013-03-08 22:59

    Wake up and smell the gunpowder.

  • Evi - 2013-03-08 23:12

    Disgusting prying insensitive voyeuristic media >>>>

      Jill.Robinson10 - 2013-03-09 06:42

      ....and what about the public - they are just as hungry for 'dirt'

      Jill.Robinson10 - 2013-03-09 06:42

      ....and what about the public - they are just as hungry for 'dirt'

  • Avril Booysen - 2013-03-09 00:06

    Keep the door locked

  • Karen Webber - 2013-03-09 00:44

    I get the feeling that the door is a crucial evidence in this case

      Mongi Wethu - 2013-03-09 01:20

      You are very right. The angles at which the bullets enetred the door will reveal the trajectiles of the bullets and confirm both the height of the shooter and the likely distance from which they were fired. So, the door is in my opinion a very critical piece in my opinion.

      Mongi Wethu - 2013-03-09 01:20

      You are very right. The angles at which the bullets enetred the door will reveal the trajectiles of the bullets and confirm both the height of the shooter and the likely distance from which they were fired. So, the door is in my opinion a very critical piece in my opinion.

      Charmaine Sanic - 2013-03-09 05:35

      yes Karen so it seems, only problem now is will a accurate result come from it. the door should not have been removed because houses and doors are different. they would need to take into account or recreate the exact space from the floor to the door, and all other spaces from frame to door. take into account the movement of the bullet because of the wood in the door and so on.

      Charmaine Sanic - 2013-03-09 05:35

      yes Karen so it seems, only problem now is will a accurate result come from it. the door should not have been removed because houses and doors are different. they would need to take into account or recreate the exact space from the floor to the door, and all other spaces from frame to door. take into account the movement of the bullet because of the wood in the door and so on.

      Judit Victor - 2013-03-09 10:45

      We saw holes in the door in a digital format on Carte Blanche. Now if THAT is where the cricket bat was used then surely a man on his knees (without prosthesis he only has knees to stand on) would not have the leverage to make such a big hole with a cricket bat. You'd need helluva strength to beat in such a big hole and exactly there at the door knob? That's of course if their digital drawing was sort of correct?

      Johnny Lamont - 2013-03-09 22:46

      The door is not really crucial evidence the trajectory etc has already been noted and can be presented to the court via the expert who did the tests. The angles of the shots don't matter he already admitted he shot at the door, makes no difference where from.

      Shelle Malan - 2013-03-10 13:45

      I agree - the trajectory of the bullets through the door will confirm whether he had his legs on or not - he says not...and blood splatter will confirm whether Reeva perhaps was standing pushed up against the door in self-defense...using the door as a barrier between herself and the accused when she was shot...before she managed to lock it...if she managed to lock it at all before being executed??

      Judit Victor - 2013-03-10 15:03

      To all the thumb downs? WHY do I get a thumb down for asking a valid question? Did I make a judgement? NO, I asked after seeing what Carte Blanche showed. Perhaps that wasn't even a true pic, but if it WAS then my question is valid. you people make gods of your favourite stars. It's the strangest thing to a stupid mind like mine.

  • Tholithemba B Ntsele - 2013-03-09 02:07

    $50 000 ---- well it must be international media otherwise there was no need to use $ when reporting an offer made in Rands :)

  • kenneth.fisher.750 - 2013-03-09 02:29

    The whole case 'hinges' on the door. The forensic Investigation are doing the test behind closed (bathroom) doors but don't worry, they have a handle on it soon.

      Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-09 07:16

      If there is still enough wood left after all those shots!

      Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-09 07:16

      If there is still enough wood left after all those shots!

  • Francois Vereen - 2013-03-09 02:48

    I have a extra door how much will they pay me for it il even give them my front door

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-03-11 13:19

      Go and buy a door at Builders, shot it 4 times and sell it on BidorBuy!

  • Peabo Siphelele Mkhize - 2013-03-09 05:29

    Funny how Botha was 'shown' the door.

      Piet Motsoeneng - 2013-03-09 06:38

      In the end he wasn't shown the door, he saw the door since he resigne not fired.

      Piet Motsoeneng - 2013-03-09 06:38

      In the end he wasn't shown the door, he saw the door since he resigne not fired.

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-03-11 16:31

      Funny how new doors opened for Botha after leaving the police.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2013-03-09 05:42

    Oscar's father has become a hero since his statement. If Oscar is found guilty we can be assured of the racist plot against him.

      Gary Doyle - 2013-03-09 05:54

      Racist plot? You make it sound like he was set up. He's a trigger happy killer, even in his twisted version.

      Gary Doyle - 2013-03-09 06:09

      Stewart, oscar's dad was perhaps understanderbly emotional when he made his comments to the british media but in my opinion they will not affect the outcome of this trial.

      Gary Doyle - 2013-03-09 06:09

      Stewart, oscar's dad was perhaps understanderbly emotional when he made his comments to the british media but in my opinion they will not affect the outcome of this trial.

      Themba Khumalo - 2013-03-09 07:23

      No, Gary. You will find at the end of the trial, after psychiatric evaluation from white experts absolves Oscar, that Croucamp is right. It was most likely a black, racist, card-carrying ANC communist that snuck into Oscar's home, (coz he hates Oscar's father and white farmers), shot Reeva, put the gun in Oscar's hand before he even woke up, and fled the scene. Oscar was framed by the gvt.

      Zinhle Ngubane - 2013-03-09 08:09

      I think Oscar's dad has lost his mind nd he doesnt wat to come to terms with the fact tgat his son is a bloody killer!

      karen.glautier - 2013-03-09 08:41

      @Zinhle, Agreed, they are indicating that if crime in SA wasn't as high then this would not have happened. Blame everyone but NEVER accept any blame yourself.

      Themba Khumalo - 2013-03-09 22:43

      Whoever is responsible for moderating comments on this News24 forum is a rightwing nut. Where are Gary and my comments?

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-03-11 16:32

      "Where are Gary and my comments?" Behind the door maybe?

  • Kwinika Masango Bush - 2013-03-09 05:48

    he has blood in his hands.....!

      carl.cox.1694 - 2013-03-09 06:51

      Theres Blood on the Dance Floor (it must go with the tune in your head). One more time; Theres Blood on the Dance Floor. Who sang that again? Awesome tune!

      carl.cox.1694 - 2013-03-09 06:51

      Theres Blood on the Dance Floor (it must go with the tune in your head). One more time; Theres Blood on the Dance Floor. Who sang that again? Awesome tune!

  • Spats Domingo - 2013-03-09 05:51

    Ethical journalism.

  • Alta Steyn - 2013-03-09 05:58

    SA in filled with psycopaths, not only in the streets, government, homes but on this forum as well. Hungry for blood, no matter the circumstance or even if the person has not yet been given a fair trial. Being hateful is just no way to go, even if the man is totally guilty. Your opinion on here is a reflection of the state of your own soul, remember that.

      Gcodi Matshona - 2013-03-09 06:27

      i think your comment is hateful

      Gcodi Matshona - 2013-03-09 06:33

      @alta,you should be grateful that you dont have nuttinyahoo,as president !!!

      Ggre Hygtr - 2013-03-09 07:25

      ALTA not SA, Pistorius is filled with killing, only in his house, being hatefull for REEVA is just no way to go, and Pistrius's soul knows the truth

  • Alta Steyn - 2013-03-09 05:59

    SA in filled with psycopaths, not only in the streets, government, homes but on this forum as well. Hungry for blood, no matter the circumstance or even if the person has not yet been given a fair trial. Being hateful is just no way to go, even if the man is totally guilty. Your opinion on here is a reflection of the state of your own soul, remember that.

  • Ridwaan Ebrahim - 2013-03-09 06:32

    Monsters INC...in real life

  • German Mazokera - 2013-03-09 06:43

    It was not easy for Botha to say its a premeditated murder, he was not alone to come to that conclusion. They had seen alot in their line of operation. The removal of the door shows to me that Botha was fighting a catalyst trying to destroy evidence on the scene and most of the catalyst are those whom he work with and have been paid off.now out of the force the ground is much even for the O.P team to, even challeng the bail condition and ............5yrs later -case dismissed due to lack of evidence.

      Nettie Potgieter - 2013-03-09 07:31

      Thank you for this information. I agree with you. The staat should not have layed a case of premedated murder. The should have had an kwasi- inqeust first and worked from that. If their investigation show that Oscar did act in selfdevence this could lead to a wrongfull arest case against the police.

      Nettie Potgieter - 2013-03-09 07:31

      Thank you for this information. I agree with you. The staat should not have layed a case of premedated murder. The should have had an kwasi- inqeust first and worked from that. If their investigation show that Oscar did act in selfdevence this could lead to a wrongfull arest case against the police.

  • Nizole Middle-Finger Khala - 2013-03-09 07:13

    Where does all this money come from? I mean we have endless farm workers strike, municipality, miners, etc and they are being told that there's no money so tell does the government save it for senseless cases like this one?

      Ralph Ryan - 2013-03-09 07:47

      whilst there is a place for the media to keep us informed, they can sometimes also iniate wrong doing by offering the crazy rewards for the door pictures, which could easily lure our weak minded cops to get in on the action to collect the reward and then compromise the case.

      Ralph Ryan - 2013-03-09 07:47

      whilst there is a place for the media to keep us informed, they can sometimes also iniate wrong doing by offering the crazy rewards for the door pictures, which could easily lure our weak minded cops to get in on the action to collect the reward and then compromise the case.

  • Delani Charlie Ka Mabanga - 2013-03-09 08:10

    Can't say I'm suprised, that's typical of our media.They would go to extremes just to get the juciest story out there at any cost.

  • Percy Ndebele - 2013-03-09 08:12

    Why Botha is going public about sensetive imformation? Is he now in the Pistorius team, he still part of the case regardless that he resigned, not professional unless he's paid to do so.

  • Alta Steyn - 2013-03-09 08:26

    @Gcodi See, you just confirmed the latter with your response. I rest my case.

  • johnwyattcapetown - 2013-03-09 08:44

    Why would you pay so much for a shower door? Much cheaper at Builders Warehouse.

  • Zaakirinho - 2013-03-09 09:05

    Amazing,

  • Caine Abel - 2013-03-09 09:12

    Thats the timeswe are livin in......the ones death is the others bread

  • ANASKA - 2013-03-09 09:34

    No surprise here afterall it is the Media

  • Zintle Beauty Sijeku - 2013-03-09 09:53

    Wow Botha resigned, decide 2 comment about de case, dats rich of him Im sure he knows dat money makes de world go round since he was paidoff as wel mm...

  • Adele Coetzee Full - 2013-03-09 10:12

    They mentioned in another article that this damaged the states case...We all know by now that Botha messed up. All we can do now is wait what other evidence will dock up from both parties...The media will do anything in their power to get their hands on any lose ends that there might be, anything to help them with their sales etc.How many stories over the last few weeks was only speculating and not the truth? Too many...Well anyways let's give it time till 4 June when the REAL truth will be revealed in trial

      andre.nel.106 - 2013-03-10 11:09

      can you explained to me , in your experience as an crime scene detective there dit W/O Botha messed it up. Not what you read in the paper. There is a logical explanation for must of the facts what was said. Go and read act 51 of 1977 sec 50 (6), it give the police 7days to prepare for bail application. OP 5 days. Normal time to get cell phone information , 3-5 weeks, normal time ballistics report 3-6 month, normal time photo album 6 weeks , post mortem report 3-6 month, Protective clothing not issue,

  • Godfrey M. Sibanda - 2013-03-09 10:40

    press is going door to door saying poor oscar is at death's door... well, he ain't, watch how he sprints out through the back door!

  • Godfrey M. Sibanda - 2013-03-09 10:56

    methinks the door will open to irrefutable evidence that 1) oscar shot from close range, a metre or so 2) he had his blades on, bullet holes are from up to down, meaning he lied about that fact 3)there are traces of oscar's breath as he screamed at reeva to 'get the f..k out of there or else...' 4) she wrote a name in blood on the inside of the door as she knock-knocked on heaven's door 5) the name is that of the killer! watch this space when/if this case finally goes to court!

  • Andre Jacobs - 2013-03-11 08:19

    Maybe he was paid to do just that and make the door go away for ever. Did he retire ? Maybe he could afford to retire now?

  • Sheilan - 2013-03-11 08:47

    "He said the door needed to be removed as evidence and for forensic tests to be conducted anyway." Forensic Science requires extensive knowledge and skill in both Mathematics and Natural Sciences (Physics and Chemistry). This just goes to show that these "forensics" aren't educated for the job. It's actually BASIC math to know that you shouldn't remove the door as the original position gives off all the crucial evidence.

  • Stuart Corsar - 2013-03-11 10:33

    This has happened and let the man real in his own guilt. It happened a few years ago, when that rugby player shot his daughter by accident. So give the poor bloke a break If you were in his shoes and you heard a noise in the house what would you do?

  • Klem Dunstan - 2013-03-11 12:36

    As one door closes another opens

  • Jordan J Zee Mosia - 2013-03-16 17:11

    A Gun can change a person's life in a minute, the story about Oscar Pistorius killing her girlfriend, is too complicated, its like watching a movie and wondering how is gonna end?

  • Jordan J Zee Mosia - 2013-03-16 17:15

    The Story about Oscar Pistorious killing her girlfriend is too complicated, its like watching a movie so anxiously and wondering how its gonna end? For now its like the whole World has only watched the highlights of a Movie yet to be shown in great cinemas, and all we know by now is how a gun can change a person's life forever!!!1

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