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Cops save man from armed strikers

2012-09-10 16:08

Rustenburg - Swift intervention by police officers saved a man from protesting Lonmin mineworkers near Marikana on Monday afternoon.

Armed protesters wielding various weapons - including knobkerries, pangas and spears - marched from mine shaft to mine shaft calling for the closure of all operations.

The strikers insisted that people they met on the way join them in their procession. A middle-aged man saw the arms-wielding crowd approaching, and turned and ran away.

Armed strikers gave chase, shouting, as the man sprinted to a nearby main road.

There, he was picked up by one of several police vehicles - including Nyalas, which were escorting the protesters - and was taken to safety.

The strikers had congregated at the entrance to Lonmin's Eastern platinum mine before midday.

Four police Nyalas blocked the entrance, and the strikers halted outside, singing and dancing.

Protest leaders entered the mine premises escorted by police officers.

The workers sang: "Thina silwela amalungelo wethu... [We are fighting for our rights]."

After visiting the mining shafts and the hostels, calling on non-striking workers to join them, the strikers settled at an open space near the hostels.

A leader of the protesters, Anele Nogwanya, said they would be proceeding to a nearby hill after meeting at the open space.

Earlier, Nogwanya said the protesters were demanding that all mining operations in the area be ceased until their demand of a R12 500 a month wage were met.

"We have now buried all our fallen colleagues. Now is the time to honour our promise to them of getting the R12 500," he said.

"If we go back to work without getting R12 500, our deceased colleagues will turn against us."

On 16 August, police fired on a group of protesting workers, killing 34 of them and wounding 78. Another 10 people were killed the preceding week, including two policemen and two security guards.

Lonmin said staff attendance was at 6.34% on Monday, ahead of wage talks, which were expected to begin at noon.

One of the conditions of a peace deal, signed on Thursday, was that the workforce return on Monday.

The company, which is considered one of the world's largest producers of platinum group metals, loses about 2 500 platinum ounces a day in lost production.

Work stopped at the mine on 10 August.

Comments
  • jonathancfarrell - 2012-09-10 16:12

    Just fire the lot and recruit the guys that want to work!

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-10 16:24

      not KNOBKERRIE... it's Knopkirrie FFS...

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-09-10 16:49

      @jfarway1 & Alicia - change that statement to "Fire at the lot of them, again"

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-09-10 17:00

      Why is the president not doing anything about this? He needs to address these hooligans!!!! They are threatening other peoples live FFS!

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-10 17:06

      uhm actually... Knopkierie... http://www.rieme.co.za/woordeboek.asp

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-10 17:06

      Or set fire to the lot!

      farmfreund - 2012-09-10 17:23

      this is so F funny, in 200 years the people will read in the history books, a rabbit started ther third boere war. bawawawawawa

      nicholas.graan - 2012-09-10 17:45

      The irony is that most of these guys are probably going to be retrenched. I cannot see Lonmin not being forced to close down a couple of shafts. A mine is not a sweet shop that can just be opened and closed at will. I reckon thousands of jobs are going to go down the hole in the next few months ..from earning a little, they will now be earning nothing.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-09-10 17:46

      @chaplinncharlie @justanotherguy.fromsa You do realise there are two spellings and two different languages involved here, right? Both are valid.

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-10 18:07

      Brian... You are right... Sorry News24...

      wdvilliers - 2012-09-10 18:31

      Hmmmm Thank You Mister Chaplin...that is correct.

      omo.naija.750 - 2012-09-10 18:39

      The strikers insisted that people they met on the way join them in their procession. A middle-aged man saw the arms-wielding crowd approaching, and turned and ran away. Armed strikers gave chase, shouting, as the man sprinted to a nearby main road. ....................................................................... Are these people human beings at all? I mean even the worst behaved people i have seen do not go these far! They take barbarism to another level.I was at one sympathetic to their cause but truth be told ,these men are not black Africans instead they are animals.

      SharonE - 2012-09-10 19:29

      Look at the picture!! A truly fearsome sight - I would run too if I were to encounter a bunch of weapon-weilding zombies!!!!

      andile.vabasa - 2012-09-10 22:05

      SharonE, The funniest thing is the media makes them out to be the victims. Take a good look at those savages, I don't want to be near them, I fear for my safety. I feel they should be put into cages when I look at the pictures. I hate the media, I think we as people should go strike outside all the major media centers with panga's and such and see if we are made out to be the victims then.

      andile.vabasa - 2012-09-10 22:13

      Check the oak in front, I swear he was trying to look scary.

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-10 16:12

    Time for the cops to use their weapons but not just 34 this time. Enough is enough.

      procold2 - 2012-09-10 16:17

      i say so too but we know it wont happen as the orders have changedand the police are now scared

      tebza.ngoatoana - 2012-09-10 16:32

      Talk is cheap hehhh!!!

      mike.stafford.7509 - 2012-09-10 16:53

      Irene I can't believe that your comment gets 59 thumbs ups and 8 down when you are asking the cops to shoot more people. Thumbs up and down by the way came from Roman times in the arenas when the Emperor would indicate whether a slave should live or die. Those times were pretty barbaric. Yes they got the job done but they were Pagans. What sort of a forum is this for heavens sake? Is everyone on this forum a gun toting right winger? I know I am going to get several thumbs down but I really have to make my point for moderation and sanity.

      nads.delange - 2012-09-10 20:53

      Mike, they're allowed to threaten innocent people who just want to work, threaten police, attack innocent people, kill policemen and security guards and shop stewards, but we must just sit back and let it happen?? Why are these barbarians' lives more valuable than those of hardworking miners and policemen? If bullets are the answer, then so be it, somehow they need to learn, and obviously the lives of 34 of their "comrades" are not enough. They are a disgrace to South Africa!

      nads.delange - 2012-09-10 20:56

      The previous comment was for Mike Stafford. Mike.mike, you are an idiot!!! Yes, these miners are black, but you cannot say that their whole race is useless because of the actions of these miners. Come now, we need to move past that kind of talk, it's not helpful and will not get us anywhere as a country!

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-10 16:13

    Lucky escape.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-09-10 17:11

      Why are the thugs allowed by the police to march with dangerous weapons? This is anarchy!

      nads.delange - 2012-09-10 21:12

      I'm pretty sure that it'll be cheaper to train new miners and employ them, than give these barbarians a raise. Even if they deserved a raise (which they certainly didn't) before all of this, they certainly don't now. In fact, they don't deserve a job, period. Give these jobs to those people eager to work, we have so many unemployed people in is country!

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-09-10 16:15

    This begs the question, how many of those miners really want to be there and how many are held hostage by the savages?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-09-10 16:17

      Question is, how many of those protesters are miners?

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-09-10 16:21

      Indeed PointBlank but at least they are nicely dressed. How much does a Kaiser chiefs jersey go for these days?

  • wouldntit.benice.1 - 2012-09-10 16:15

    Lucky bru lucky, you would've been chopped up and used for muti, but they would blame it on apartheid

  • malette.snyman - 2012-09-10 16:16

    The cops should gave arrested those with the pangas chasing him. I doubt if they had caught him they would have shaken his hand!!!

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-09-10 16:16

    This is now becoming a joke, who do these miners think they are intimidating others to get their way!!! Its time for Lonmin to fire all of them and use the police to escort them out of the area or throw them in jail. Hire people who want to work!

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-10 16:22

    Stupid is as stupid does. Leave those well alone who are not part of your little REGIME. They know better & you should learn from them....

  • cya.ngoma - 2012-09-10 16:22

    They want to continue doing what they are capable of now, which is killing the innocent people. Thanks to the police for being there at the right time otherwise that man was gonna die in the hands of those killers.

  • lydonmcg - 2012-09-10 16:22

    Oh shame. We're supposed to feel so sorry for them.

  • malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-09-10 16:28

    Why are they being let anywhere near the mine shafts? It's utter nonsense.

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-10 16:29

    They are a violent mob. The police must disband them, no talking back just F off or the bullets, they will fly.

  • ashleigh.moller.7 - 2012-09-10 16:30

    Brave now! Tears later again???? Really useless!

  • barry.ahern.3 - 2012-09-10 16:31

    ANIMALS!! You have just had your colleagues shot and killed, but even after that, you adorn weapons and chase down workers, no doubt with the intent to kill. Shoot the lot of you. Even a dog understands after being tapped on the nose not to do something. Should we start treating u like dogs and smack your noses when you're bad???

  • wouldntit.benice.1 - 2012-09-10 16:33

    Wish I was a cop for that one day

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-09-10 16:48

      Wish ?? you would have been walking around poeping evry minute jou poepsak sal by nou al pink blou getret idiot.Dont wish for things to turn in to hell.

      John - 2012-09-10 19:28

      You are one sick puppy. You must have been the school bully.

  • garth.baldwin.96 - 2012-09-10 16:36

    Just fire the whole lots.. I'm sure we have enough unemployed people in this country to fill there positions!!

  • Sharmay - 2012-09-10 16:37

    And the country wonders why the miners were shot...

  • clive.wannenburg - 2012-09-10 16:39

    I still say the cops should have never allowed them to even march towards the mine as their activities are illegal and inciting violence while intimidating hard working folk.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-09-10 16:43

      Yes exactly, they should not be allowed anywhere near the mine (private property) and they certainly should not be allowed to intimidate anyone.

  • Watkykj - 2012-09-10 16:41

    So they singing that they fighting for their own rights but are taking other peoples rights away?! Uneducated, morons make me sick. Just shoot them!

  • veritas.odium.paret - 2012-09-10 16:42

    Are there still members of the human race who still believe that the police overreacted in shooting some of these guys? 'cause then I doubt I'd be one of them...

      DraganTrenk - 2012-09-10 21:29

      Most of Media prostitute themselves by saying that Police overreacted.It is plain bigotry or level of IQ has been lowered for the journos?!

  • malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-09-10 16:42

    Everyone is very quick to stand up for and cry about the rights of the 'poor strikers'. What I want to know is where are the people standing up for the rights of the (probably larger percentage) of miners who actually do want to work? The silence is deafening? DA I am looking at you as well here - if you are the party that you pretend to be then why are you not speaking out here, yet you were all too quick to condemn the police for shooting? Very revealing I think...

      rodney.overes - 2012-09-10 17:08

      The DA and Cope have lost my VOTE I will not vote for them as we all can see They are not standing up for JUSTICE.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-09-10 17:11

      I agree rodney, that leaves the question though who do we turn to and vote for now? I don't see any obvious options - do you?

  • customdesign - 2012-09-10 16:47

    The workers sang: "Thina silwela amalungelo wethu... [We are fighting for our rights]." Erm they are no longer workers but strikers

      johnny.matsetse - 2012-09-10 18:55

      There were words like `it shouldn't have happened in a democratic country`words like `These were unarmed peaceful protesters` words like `Police overreacted` words Like `we are going to make this mines ungovernable`Words like `Where was leadership`NOW THE MINERS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF THE NEGOTIONS ,They say they want 12500 nothing else Question 1 Where are all this people wu said all those words that I've mentioned To come N teach this miners that in order to achieve what U realy want ,Is to stop all the threats N Be part of the Negotiations, 12500 will never come through intimidation or threats of KILLING or Closing The very same mines that pays your salary

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-10 16:48

    Why does this incompetent government still allow these people to carry weapons??? Mr. Zuma don't you understand the message?

  • tj.leeto - 2012-09-10 16:51

    Hai man, can they get a grip on reality already?

  • bretton.eveleigh - 2012-09-10 16:53

    It's a noble thing to fight for one's rights and fight to uplift yourself. But when you start endangering innocent people and using violence and intimidation, then all respect and dignity is lost. They deserve to be fired!

  • Kungfumouse - 2012-09-10 16:55

    Armed protesters... Indicates intent to do harm. So arrest them for that, itent to do harm :)

  • anakin.skyvader - 2012-09-10 16:57

    Who is the owner of Lonmin? There's a very deeply embedded militant and insidious element in this whole Marikana thing. I just read the article at http://www.marikana-truth.com : "We are told the workers are demanding that their wage be raised to R12,500 per month (about $1,500) but the workers claim their salary is already at this level. They say they are sub-contracted by a company owned by billionaire South African oligarch Cyril Ramaphosa. He only pays them R5,400 or less and pockets the rest paid out by Lonmin." So exactly how does Cyril Ramaphosa fit/not fit into the whole picture, and if he does why the deafening silence from him - either way? From whom precisely then are the workers demanding a wage increase? Who is heading up Amcu? Ultimately what do the noisemaker unions then really want (Amcu Juju & kie)? Their very own people are been sacrificed for some kind of territorial dispute here as pawns. Who is looking into this? Where is Zuma and the NPA/SCORPIONS? This thing is becoming very disruptive and damaging to our economy - it needs to be resolved and untangled - extremely urgently.

      John - 2012-09-10 19:17

      Yay! At last someone who is asking the intelligent relevant questions! I too would love to know the answers, which I think will expose the TRUTH!

  • alan.jerrold - 2012-09-10 17:06

    This is getting totally out of hand. People who understand nothing of economics are using mob violence to destabilise SA. The result WILL be more and more mines and companies closing down, tens of thousands out of work and then wondering why. Is sheer, utter stupidity going to be allowed to destroy our South Africa which has so much potential? We need a LEADER and we don't have one. Just self-serving ANC cadres and criminals who don't know how to govern.

  • gerhard.minnaar.716 - 2012-09-10 17:06

    So let me get this straight in a nutshell: "Give me money and I'll forget the death of my colleges." What a bunch of hooligans!!!

  • richard.howes.982 - 2012-09-10 17:07

    Give all the working miners guns so that there RIGHT 2 defend themselves or beter yet give them guns so that they cn fight 4 their Jobs cz it doesn't look lyk any1 is intrested in the minners that are happy 2 earn an honest living

  • wade.johnson.58726 - 2012-09-10 17:09

    'They were chasing him, and if caught, they would have probaly hacked him to death.And that's perfectly fine. But if he pulled out a gun and fired back, in defence, then that would be just wrong.' F*cking Savages.

  • rudi.wet.5 - 2012-09-10 17:11

    Shoot the whole freakin' lot. They come back wielding pangas and knives and whatever primitive bush weopon they could find and this time the police will have to stand and wait to be hacked to death because HEAVEN FORBID, they are not allowed to shoot!? Bloody idiots should be shot just for thinking their DEAD buddies can actually turn against them! This pagan mentallity is what got them voting for the ANC in the first place and the ANC will use this to make them vote for them again and again!! South Africa doesn't need barbarians. It needs intelligent people who can think for themselves. Yes I know, I will get hundreds of thumbs down for this (IF this makes it to the forum and stay on it long enough...) but you see, I just don't care about these dumb muppets anymore. Their buddies got what they deserved.

      John - 2012-09-10 19:08

      YOU and I and even the POLICE have the RIGHT to defend OUR lives in the face of IMMINENT danger as observed by the REASONABLE man.

  • Simphiwe Anthony - 2012-09-10 17:14

    @Gerhard, but what does their bad behavior has to do with the government and the President?

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-10 17:16

    I wonder if the SA Human Rights Commission and the rest of the liberal junk, including the press, are going to make an issue out of this. I am not holding my breath.

  • bullardx - 2012-09-10 17:16

    As a black individual>>> Im embarrassed.shame on you miners, seriously...

      jennifer.d.martin.750 - 2012-09-10 19:59

      Bullard, you have no reason to be embarrassed by the behaviour of messed up people, colour has nothing to do with it. These people are being manipulated and used by ruthless selfish politicians that are scrabbling for power. It seems that the minds behind this mindless lot actually want more blood, they don't care whose. Culture, behaviour, choices, whatever drives them is their own choice. You choose not to take weapons and to live with a lust for blood, these people are clearly not you.

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-10 17:18

    Internal stability unit we miss you!

  • tim.rolston.9 - 2012-09-10 17:19

    This isn't strike action, this is an armed uprising. There is no way that crowds of armed people should be "escorted" by the police. They should be arrested. This is where the problem started last time, nip it in the bud before more people get killed..

  • wredman2 - 2012-09-10 17:21

    At what stage does a large group of armed men marching around the countryside threatening the lives of others begin to be viewed as a group of terrorists? When do their actions become criminal? These guys are not negotiating, they are intimidating and threatening. Their position is not one of give and take, and as such, the company should give them an ultimatum - either choose to work for the company on the terms agreed when they were employed, or move on to other jobs. If they are not receiving enough pay, they cannot force the company to pay more than it can afford. The company itself has a choice to make - continue to employ at unsustainable wage levels, and close down in a few months as it runs out of cash, or pay what it can afford and be a lasting viable business.

      itumelengnectarnelson.mosadi - 2012-09-10 17:39

      There is the solution rigt there... They must quit and go find better jobs thats what 'normal' people do. Not go around killin people SHOOT POLICE SHOOT and shoot to kill

  • varena.vahuu - 2012-09-10 17:22

    I think someone need to explain the meaning of such increments to our economy. They should not think of themselves but for those who will survive after them. Such increments cause hyper-inflation to the currency. If they really wanted such money they should be learned. No education no money. That money can be slightly raised to R6000 which is really good for someone unskilled.

  • pierre.walt - 2012-09-10 17:31

    Show the whole world and let they all support Australia against out AA and BEE unfairness and our corrupt government.

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-09-10 17:39

    Animals!

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-09-10 17:50

    Dammit arrest these strikers for the murders of the 10 innocent people they murdered. They were intent on harming the SAPS that day these are criminals not just innocent miners looking for more wages!!!!

  • nerasmus1 - 2012-09-10 17:51

    It's been said before and I'll say it again. Even though they seem to have the mentality of which, these people are not slaves. They are free to walk away from this company to another that may meet their needs. In fact, many do. Something reeks here. Ask around and you'll find that many of the angry mob have never even worked for Lonmin. They're not even from this area. Please explain to us what this is really about as I'm no longer believing the wage dispute excuse.

      Mathys Theart - 2012-09-10 18:52

      Most of them are average citizens dragged out of their houses to protest. These citizens fear their names being added to 'the list'.

  • provence.poppies - 2012-09-10 17:58

    They are fighting for their rights to kill someone who does not do as they say? Savages

  • allan.grant.142 - 2012-09-10 18:12

    What happened to the rite to work with out fear of intimidation. Should the shop stewards not be charged with intimidation \r\n. The last time I checked it was against the law

  • pawmetmhla.mqadi - 2012-09-10 18:18

    Oh my God! This moron's(malema) plan seems to be working. Oportunists lyk dis scumbg hv misled the masses, uninformed masses, for their political gain. The evil is rising, the real enermy here is Malema n the so called FYL!!!! Let's put aside our political differences, let's unite(black or white) agaisnt the rise of evil. Let's defend our beautiful country

  • clarence.esau - 2012-09-10 18:36

    With views like those below, it is easy to understand why no satisfactory solution has been found yet. The intolerance, narrow self-interest, self-pity of the privileged, and the underlying ENVY at the fact that these simple men have the super rich investors by the balls are a laugh!! Shame...

  • Matlala - 2012-09-10 18:38

    Generally I'm worried about status qou at Lomnin mine. Protesters moved from one shaft to another dragging those who are on duty to the protest without consensus. Protesters are lawless and they were indoctrinated by bogus leaders like Godi, Lekota and Malema. They have wrongly advised the protesters to undermine any strategy to take them back to work as long as they don't get R 12,500. Now the protesters are carry dangerous weapon and tremble on human rights of non- striking workers. One miner was saved by the police. It is time for Godi, Lekota and Malema to advice their irresponsible disgruntled troops to adhere to peace demonstration as emphasized by the constitution. Such peaceful demonstration shall win the support from ideal citizens. Law enforcement should continue to instill law and order amongst the protesters. They (protesters should be forbidden to carry weapons that are dangerous and life threateng.

  • julio.sanfona - 2012-09-10 18:48

    This is savage behaviour by the the striking mob. I would like to sympathize with the workers in their quest for better pay but with this violent and savage behaviour I find it very difficult to side with them. Where are the level headed authorities to deal with these misguided idiots? Where are the politicians with some balls? Maybe our polygamist president could apply his "mind" to this problem.

  • John - 2012-09-10 18:50

    HURRAY HURRAY, The POLICE actually doing what WE pay them for! SERVING and PROTECTING the PEOPLE.