Cops shot in cold blood

2011-05-22 07:50

Johannesburg - Two police officers were killed on duty in Kraaifontein, Cape Town, on Sunday, Western Cape police said.

Lieutenant Colonel Andre Traut said the officers were "gunned down in cold blood while attending a routine compliant at an informal dwelling situated in Wallacedene, Kraaifontein" just after 01:00.

He said they attended a complaint on the corners of Pedro and Boesak streets, and soon after their arrival they were approached by an armed group of people.

The 39-year-old warrant officer and the 23-year-old student constable were both shot in the head and robbed of their service pistols.

Traut said the suspects fled the scene and were not yet arrested.

Provincial Commissioner of the Western Cape Police, Lieutenant General Arno Lamoer, urged community members to come forward with any information that could help in the investigation of the case.

"We will not stop our search for these killers, until we find them," Lamoer said.

  • ldt - 2011-05-22 08:13

    This is nauseatingly tragic! I was working in Delft ER one night in 2007 and 2 policemen got gunned down in front of the police station. What is this country coming to...

      Kevin - 2011-05-22 08:52

      Very tragic and I am left asking the same question. Where is the country headed? Condolences to the families of the police officers.

      kidblack - 2011-05-22 17:07

      The cops friends will ensure justice is done, the right way. There is no way these animals will see the inside of a court. Only the inside of a coffin. Go get em boys.

      Nico - 2011-05-22 17:20

      justice has already been served...6 in custody

      Paul - 2011-05-24 01:09

      @Nico - I'm glad to hear the guys have been caught. I hope they get the sentences they deserve. Keep safe God Bless.

  • BigMoose - 2011-05-22 08:15

    It was a setup. Condolences.

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 13:52

      My condolences to the family of these two brave men. Be strong in these dark days, and know than He will be with you in your time of need.

      Singo - 2011-05-22 18:31

      Jaa,I smell a dead rat.Why would only two of them go there?Why were the thugs waiting to amush them? Why dis the people steal the guns?This isn't making sense.RIP comrades.

  • Wayne - 2011-05-22 08:34

    Vote ANC and there will never be a death sentence for police killers. You get what you vote for.

      BigMoose - 2011-05-22 08:59

      Call for a referendum on the death penalty. It would be interesting to hear what the people have to say.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-22 09:01

      Let the DA call but I doubt

      Carl Muller - 2011-05-22 09:34

      The DA are the ones that fully supported the Death Sentence to be scrapped. Their attitude is "Don't hurt them, they have the right..." When you heave taken the life of someone you have no rights.

      Wayne - 2011-05-22 09:48

      A referendum will speak for the people and I am sure the DA will have done an about turn by now. The ANC knows that the death sentence will wipe out a third of their voters.

      paulmandlankosi - 2011-05-22 10:41

      Wayne, you are just a dreamer old man, do you think Helen will bring a death penalthy for he voters and future voters, never wake up and stop dreaming.

      Markusman - 2011-05-22 12:02

      let them be stoned. i have always been in favour of the death penalty as the concept is a major deterrent for criminals. For the calibre of people that commit such crimes, prison is like an extended holiday where they can chill with their mates and continue raping and killing with no further repercussions. My father on the other hand, (a lawyer) is strongly opposed on the grounds that they may later be found to be innocent and if theyve been hanged, well, its too late and an innocent person is dead. So the question is, do the pros out weigh the cons?

      G.du Plessis - 2011-05-22 12:13

      Cannot believe that some of you support the death penalty. The DA are a liberal party and thankfully would also not bring it back if in power. I think it is disgusting that some of you have written offensive things about Paul - a man you do not know. He generally writes well rounded, intellectual comments unlike the fascist death penalty spouting stuff you write. Simple solution is for SA to spend more on policing and for there to be a bigger police presence. Rewards need to be offered to community members who "bust" criminal gangs in their areas.

      G.du Plessis - 2011-05-22 12:16

      People would still commit crime with the death penalty - they think they can get away with the crime which is why they do it. Nobody commits a crime thinking, "well I will probably be caught". If they did then even the deterrent of jail let alone death penalty would put them off. American states like Texas have the death penalty, and murder is 40/100,000 of the population. In Boston murder is 11/100,000 where they don't have the death penalty. It does not actually reduce crime which is why all "civilised" societies have faded it out, without exception.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-05-22 12:26

      @Wayne. How can you say a third of ANC voters are murderers? Either you are bigotted or retarded! I am a DA supporter and not an ANC fan but would never say something like that!

      Sifiso - 2011-05-22 18:27

      Wayne how do you come to a conclusion of linking ANC with the killing of the two innocent life of the police?

  • CdnMoose - 2011-05-22 08:35

    Call in the military, surround Kraaifontein, then search everyone, every house till the guns and the guilty scum who did this are found....then anyone connected to them...burn their shacks to the ground....time to make the community suffer for these idiots..then they may start to take a more active role in their own lives and areas.

      Colby - 2011-05-22 09:06

      Whilst I agree in principle, you also have to take into account the fact that these cretins terrorise innocent people within their own community. Making it safer for those in the townships and finding a way of guaranteeing that witnesses will be protected may be a way. Unless you have worked closely with these people, you have no idea what it can be like, not knowing whether your home will be standing or your kids alive when you get back from work. I know that we generalise about black people when they do something against the community, but to be frank, they live in greater fear then do we. It is a far greater problem than we think, but not for the reasons we sometimes think. There are truly many good black people, and the decent community should be trying harder to get them on board instead fo assuming that thet protect criminals willingly! I'm white and not a communist....just a realist. South Africa has the potential to be the strongest country in the world, let's all try to live for tomorrow and forget the stupidity of the past

      ilollipop - 2011-05-22 09:12

      Seriously? The people of Kraaifontein don't have rights? You're like a Nazi who shoots 50 civilians for every one of your own killed. Make the community suffer? Why can't they catch them using regular policing?

      Carl Muller - 2011-05-22 09:36

      Most obviously you have never been in a community. Their are more crime and rapes there than in the white areas. I challenge you, go and talk to them. That is why they attack criminals when they get them and the SAPS must come and get them our before they are stoned to death...

  • John - 2011-05-22 08:36

    23 Years old is too young to die like that. This is typical gang culture stuff. Our police are not trained to assess threat levels properly. Plus our prisons are gang universities.

      Grant - 2011-05-22 09:45

      At what age are you old enough to die like that John? Was the 39 year old officer old enough? At 123 years old, you are too young to die like that!

      Nico - 2011-05-22 10:10

      @John. Kraaifontein police are top notch policemen and are experts at their work. Don't make assumptions based on nothing.

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 14:19

      @Nico. I agree wholeheartedly. The problem lies with the "police" employed "off the street" if I can call it that. People that have no other job and just want a salary. They have no interest whatsoever to serve the community and most of the time have these gangster mentalities. Our "original" policemen are being suffocated, pushed down, not promoted etc but these goons are. These goons walk in and all earn salaries higher than "our men" who have gone through police college, and have years of experience! It is a racial thing as it has everything to do with skin colour. The policemen we support are the ones that put their lives on the line for us, the ordinary people on the street. They arrest criminals, but alas, a few things happen. These criminals go to court but miraculously the dockets have disappeared?!, or they get a low fine, or they actually go to jail but are hardly there and are let out for so called "good behaviour"! It is obvious that there is a huge criminal element within the force, and these policemen stand no chance whatsoever against them, the big bosses etc. The only thing we can do is try and support them as best we can. And guys, they are not only white, they represent all races in South Africa. You will recognise them in the way they hold themselves, the pride in wearing their uniform, cleanliness and respect they have for people. In this group I am including detectives as well. Pray: Be safe! Take note of these things. They need our support!

      Nico - 2011-05-22 16:22

      Krolie thank you for your know what you talk about, oh yeah 5 hours after the incident 6 suspects were caught..Now THAT is policemen at work right there!

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 19:59

      @Nico. Thanks. My son is also in the force=Detective in Free State, and has been here in CT on "business" numerous times. I won't be surprised to hear tha you have during these last 10 odd years when he worked in OC section. Must say, I can't help but worry, but I also know that after all these years in the force, he certainly knows how to handle himself. I am absolutely thrilled that the suspects were caught. Best news ever, and am so thankful for you and your colleagues families as well. Knowing this will bring a bit of relief for them and take them a few steps closer to closure! Please convey my condolences, and tell them that they will remain in my thoughts and that the Lord will take care of them in their time of need. Now let's pray that justice prevails and the suspects receive the punishment they deserve. Well done guys. You're the best! Take care, be vigilant, watch each other's backs, and big please be safe!

      l3jorn - 2011-05-23 11:28

      @Krolie. I could not agree with you more!

  • Mthetwa - 2011-05-22 08:38

    So, so sad

  • nazeem - 2011-05-22 08:47

    welcome to cape town

      Singo - 2011-05-22 18:37

      Thanks,here I am. Which road goes to Kraaifonten?

  • papaRoach - 2011-05-22 08:57

    I think capital punishment should be reinstated. It might not be a proven deterrent but most of these scums should just be sent to the gallows. South Africans deserve an assurance and a concerted effort from the government to combat crime and lawlessness in this country. Big business should start lobbying and hold this government at ransom. It simply can't go on like this. We need to take to the streets and march in demand of our right to be protected by those tasked to do so. Demand stiffer punishment for those that are trying to deprive South Africa if its peace, tranquility and prosperity.

      ilollipop - 2011-05-22 09:14

      If you want to have capital punishment again you have to show it is an effective deterrent - which it is not. Good luck trying to sell it to the Constitutional Court.

      papaRoach - 2011-05-22 10:05

      Observer my point idiot!

      henkad - 2011-05-22 12:09

      The death penalty will never be reinstated - innocent people have been hanged in the past and one innocent life taken by the gallows is one too many - as much as I want justice and revenge justice will never be served if any person is sent to the gallows innocently - make a life sentence not less than 50 years - no parole!

      gwiz - 2011-05-22 18:23

      Hi pappa Roach, it is a deterrent because the perpertrators will not be able to kill again, as they will be dead, I think that is the best deterrent. Why should law abiding citizens pay for their upkeep for the rest of of their lives while they sit in jail?

  • - 2011-05-22 09:19

    Timing quite coincidental isn't it? ANCYL dirty tricks? De Lille will sort them out...

  • Wow! - 2011-05-22 09:19

    Frankly it is time that the Army and Police is a combined operation start block by block searhecs and get illegal weapons off our streets. They will need to do several round at all times of day to get this right BUT I think the peace loving amounst us will tolerate this _ IF WE CAN GET A SAFER SOUTH AFRICA.

  • saliem - 2011-05-22 09:25

    Very tragic. What's a routine "compliant" :P

      Nico - 2011-05-22 10:03

      A routine complaint is a domestic dispute or house alarm. The last thing you expect is an ambush at 1am

      Celery - 2011-05-22 13:33

      @nico he's referring to the bad spelling.

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 14:30

      @Celery. Does not matter. High time that people are a bit more informed. @Wow! That is a good suggestion. Just wondering whether the army is up to it though. Have not heard such good reports as to the "state" they are in and their "outfit". On the other hand, it should give them something to do at least.

  • Nico - 2011-05-22 10:01

    Colleagues you will forever be remembered as Heroes who died in the line of duty. The whole Kraaifontein cluster's hearts go out to your families.

      Paul - 2011-05-22 13:51

      Hi Nico, Please convey my Condolences to the families of the fallen officers and also to you and the rest of your colleges. We went through the same experience when 1 of our Metro Police officers got ambushed at a routine stop by somebody that passed by. I think the State really needs to address it's Safety and Security policy to make prison more of a deterrent for criminals. I would also not mind seeing the return of corporal punishment because I personally feel that this issue starts at home. Parents cannot discipline their kids at home, the kid carries that attitude to the school system as well as onto the streets, and by the time we talk about prison then it is too late for rehabilitation. My 2 Cents

      Nico - 2011-05-22 16:29

      Thank you Paul...I will definitely do so. Thank you for your kind words and I know their families will appreciate your support along with all the other members and families. Sorry to hear about your college.

      Nico - 2011-05-22 21:04

      ag i meant colleague

  • Lee - 2011-05-22 10:03

    I'm surprised that with the ammount of violent crime in SA police officers don't react like american police.

      Nico - 2011-05-22 10:30

      how do american police react?

      BigPig69 - 2011-05-22 21:02

      Lee You have no idea what you talk about. Stop watching movies and join the real life.

  • witboy - 2011-05-22 10:54

    Sounds a bit fishy what is a student doing on Patrol. Where was the backup I suspect some policeman are trying too hard while others are useless you will find a few of the who are trying get killed its sad. A good example is how is it possible that many policeman have not arrested anyone for years

      Nico - 2011-05-22 11:45

      What is the problem with a student constable doing complaints and patrols? What else is a student constable suppose to do?

      Jasper5 - 2011-05-22 18:39

      It is standard procedure in this country, for one SAPS vehicle, to attend to a "routine call" on its own,without any backup. Students do patrols as they are fully fledged SAPS members, called students because they are still under probation.

  • Luke Slade - 2011-05-22 11:14

    RIP to our fallen heroes and my sincerest condolences to their families...May their sacrifice never be forgotten and I hope that the swift arm of justice finds the monsters who did this!

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 20:10

      They caught all six of them!! Read @Nico higher up. Fantastic job guys!

  • William - 2011-05-22 11:40

    These cases should be followed by the press until the photos of these thugs are on the front page where they get shafted in prison...instead of ridicules propaganda by Malema

  • Kyle - 2011-05-22 11:47

    Condolences to their families...always sad to hear about fellow colleagues killed in the line of duty....

  • gwiz - 2011-05-22 11:58

    This is disgusting,l bring back the death penalty this is the only language these criminals understand. My heart goes out to the police officer's families.

  • suelin.cleophas - 2011-05-22 12:15

    thats why i left South-africa...Kraaifontein..hope u can get hold of them killers,terrible...

  • kingkong - 2011-05-22 13:12

    its that same police dogs that you ran to when you are in trouble dunb idiot

      Krolie - 2011-05-22 20:15

      @Kingkong. Ag nee man regtig. Is dit nou nodig? Die dag gaan kom wanneer jy hulp nodig het, en ja, jy SAL dit van hulle kry: Nieteenstaande die feit dat jy nie met respek kan verwys na manne wat daagliks hul lewe op die spel plaas om jou veilig te hou!

  • Charmaine - 2011-05-22 14:57

    Condolences to the family of the police officers,may God strengthen the family in this tragic time. Something should seriously be done about crime in general.....

  • Human - 2011-05-22 16:29

    The people called the police should be investigated.

      Felix - 2011-05-23 09:50

      I think you left out 'who'...

  • Joe - 2011-05-22 17:13

    This would NEVER have happened in the old days...

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  • Jasper5 - 2011-05-22 18:11

    Condolences to the families, may they find peace in their hearts. To the killers....Live by the gun, die by the gun! Your days will come sooner than you expect!

  • BernieK - 2011-05-22 18:13

    This is a violent country. Police are violent and so are the criminals. Within the police there are criminal elements too - do not forget that. Nevertheless - this is a sad case. I think in the end the killers will be caught. I also will not be surprised that when that happens that these killers will be wiped out by the police. This is not the first time that this thing happens. I am sort of suspicious about this whole thing. I hope this was not a setup.

  • Mara - 2011-05-22 18:18

    So sad, my thoughts go out to their families.

  • markwmilligan - 2011-05-22 19:56

    I hope they find these murderous bastards.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 20:16

    Third world.

  • Monica - 2011-05-22 21:30

    The news did not tell us much. I would like to know if these people that killed these policemen were born in South Africa; I do believe that we import a lot of criminals for other Africa Countries and if you have the Minister of State Security; Cwele did not even know or did know about his wife drug-trafficking; a man that is in charge of South Africa's most sensitive information; how can he be trusted with any security issue in this country. It is more about internal power battles to hide the crime of the ANC as to take serve the country that is so beautiful; but yet so neglected in so many areas. Crime; education; health; poverty; job-creation; etc. Only a few in the ANC got very rich! ANC is suppose to be for all races; why are there white squater camps; black squater camps when we have so many tax laws and so much money has come into hand of the municipalities of which most of them are bancrupt under ANC Govermence. Stop the corruption and get the audits out in public. It is important that you fix the properties that you have build and make it livable for the persons that should live there; not government employees that owns the houses and rent it out. Take stock of what the municipalities own in the area and fix the problems. You cannot pay R150,000 per month for a person taking care of a municipality. Someone will do it for much less. Take away affirmative action; maybe I will get a job helping you fixing these simple problems!

      Susannomore - 2011-05-23 07:50

      How can they release details of the shooters when they don't have any? Read the article carefully and it states the following: Provincial Commissioner of the Western Cape Police, Lieutenant General Arno Lamoer, urged community members to come forward with any information that could help in the investigation of the case. "We will not stop our search for these killers, until we find them," Lamoer said.

  • lotus.lindi - 2011-05-22 22:05

    The death penalty is not a Nazi idea. And since the Constitutional court accepted that a mother has the right to take the life of her (innocent) unborn child, it should certainly be prepared to consider that a convicted murderer forfeits his/her right to life by virtue of his/her choice to take the life of another person. Often, convicted murderers are not convicted on circumstantial evidence and there is absolutely no doubt that they are indeed guilty. In this case it looks as though you might have a number of eye witnesses. What are the chances that you get a false conviction here? It's a national disgrace that so many of our good cops are killed, while our bad cops are getting fatter on corruption.

  • kseyffert - 2011-05-23 00:04

    Great! get the killers! One question though. What is the police and our esteemed government going to do for the families of the police who have just lost their lives in the line of duty?

  • PieLemon - 2011-05-23 01:48

    This is just criminals shooting other criminals, not noteworthy news really.

      Krolie - 2011-05-23 05:23

      Perhaps you think your life is not worth anything or would not be noteworthy news if something were to happen to you, BUT TAKE NOTE: We do not hink so. Just as much as us being apalled at what has happened to these two brave people, we will extend the courtecy to other's as well. Including you! It is clear that you have tunnel vision. Not ALL PEOPLE are bad, or are corrupt or are criminals. You better pray that other's won't view you in the same way in the future when you need support the most!

      haynes.sp - 2011-05-23 06:35

      Pie Lemon you are an idiot ... (1) when 2 policemen are shot down it IS noteworthy news (2) how can you assume the police who lost their lives were criminals?

      lotus.lindi - 2011-05-23 23:10

      When you need help from the police one day, you'd better hope they're not criminals. It's attitudes like yours that help prevent good people from wanting to go into the police force.

  • Gazwa - 2011-05-23 07:52

    The police need to have proper training, we had a similar incident here in KZN, where 2 policemen were called out to a shebeen and they were attacked and thier firearms taken. They should arrive in numbers, in full gear in teams and not just walk into a high risk situation. Once again, the value of life proves to be meaningless....

      Nico - 2011-05-23 08:06

      Gazwa I know what you mean yes, but we just simply have too few policemen to react to complaints like that. There simply is not enough policemen to go around.

      l3jorn - 2011-05-23 10:11

      I agree with both of you to an extent. The fact is that Govt does not assign nearly enough funding to policing. They seem to think 'more is better', hiring useless persons for a low wage without proper training to make up numbers. Obviously there are still quite a large number of professional cops out there who actually care about serving the community, but the number of persons joining the SAPS just to get a paycheck and not actually caring about their job is growing rapidly. Nico, do you not think having less officers, but those officers being well trained, would be way better in the long haul as the criminals would think twice before attempting something like this as they would know the consequences? I work in the CBD, and the amount of obese and generally useless officers I see is alarming. They also don't act in a professional manner. I get the impression the criminals are rapidly losing respect for police due to these 'wannabe police' and seem to think they will get away with anything. Nico, my condolences, but also well done on catching the scum! To all the hardworking, professional police out there such as yourself, I have the utmost respect for you, so thank you and keep up the good work!

      Nico - 2011-05-24 04:42

      @l3jorn...I agree completely with you yes...if less policemen equals better equipment for the remaining cops then I'm all for it

  • jdeeathome - 2011-05-23 09:44

    this is very sad, the police offer a selfless service and to be killed by selfish people shows that this world is in terrible disarray. may there souls have eternal rest and there families consolation in the good service they offered to communities, bless all police for there work

  • Wilhelmina - 2011-05-23 10:54

    Sad very sad this is not acceptable. :-(

  • Hannah - 2011-05-23 11:00

    Go and get them!! our boys in blue are too valuable to be lost like this giving so much of their life and sanity to us! they deserve justice for their senseless murders.. Condolences to their families.

  • TheoniePudding - 2011-05-23 11:57

    Gershwin Matthee was my neighbour. R.I.P. Our communitee is outraged and deeply sadend by the loss of the father of two younge kids and a great husband. We just hope justice will be served upon these heartless crimenals.

      Krolie - 2011-05-23 22:25

      @TheoniePudding. Please give his wife a hug from us all, and say to her that there are lots of people out there that care about her and their children, and that we are all thinking and praying for them in their time of need. Please keep an eye on them. They sure need all the support they can get right now.

  • DIE OPSTE - 2011-05-23 16:29

    my heart goes out to the families and friends of these cops. What has our country come to that it is so easy to take anothers life.

  • supporter - 2011-05-23 16:58

    no wonder people take the law into their own hands. a policeman doing his of her duty to the best of his or her ability, should be respected. all these squatter camps are filled with illegal immigrants because the anc allows illegal immigrants in south africa. let justice be done

  • Anthea - 2011-05-24 14:31

    yes how can people be so cruel, i just hope that guys who did that will be found soon and i think they must bring in the Dead rope in again.Please people stand up for your community!!

  • Zebelon - 2011-05-24 22:02

    The Western Cape has a Police Provincial Commissioner in Lt.Gen. Lamoer who represents( do the work of the police head ) the national Commissioner, as is the case in the other provinces. What is buffling is the ever presence of the Commissioner, Cele at the scenes of serious crime in all these provinces at great expense in traversing the whole wide country, unnecessarily waisting taxpayers' money. What are the Provincial Commissioners for? He is apparently not learning from past heads of thet department that the bulk of his duties is in his office at headquarters where oversight is the pricipal vital function. Perhaps he keeps away from that office to avoid being found out that he does not know the ropes in that area; which begs the question: why was he placed in that position in the first place?

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