Cops silent on Pistorius crime scene pics

2013-05-31 10:52

Johannesburg – The South African Police Service has declined to comment on pictures broadcast by Britain's Sky News on Friday purportedly showing the bathroom where paralympian Oscar Pistorius shot dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.

The black-and-white photographs show blood on a toilet seat, and a pool of blood on the floor.

The bullet holes Pistorius shot into the bathroom door are marked with stretches of tape, while a panel near the door handle is missing.

The two bullet holes visible in the picture, are situated in the middle of the door, below the height of the handle.

National police spokesperson Brigadier Phuti Setati said on Friday the SA Police Service could not comment on the pictures, because it did not know how Sky News came possess them.

"We don't want to be distracted by these deliberate tactics. All that we want to do is secure conviction, so we are working throughout and investigating professionally."

Cellphones confiscated

In April, police confiscated the cellphones of officers working on the Pistorius murder case when it came to light they had photographed him after his arrest.

It was reported at the time that according to a written response by Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa to a parliamentary question, cellphones were confiscated from 45 police officials.

Boschkop police station management also seized four other official police phones.

The police ministry said disciplinary steps were being taken against the culprits. The phones would be used as evidence.

The former lead investigator in the case, Hilton Botha, reportedly said media houses had offered to pay officers for exclusive pictures of Pistorius after he was arrested for shooting Steenkamp.

A foreign media house reportedly offered a police officer R458 000 for a photograph of the toilet door.

Pistorius has denied murdering Steenkamp, claiming he mistook her for an intruder.

The State argued that he killed her following a fight and charged him with premeditated murder.

He was granted bail of R1m by the Pretoria Magistrate's Court on 22 February. His next court appearance is on 4 June.

- Sky News report.

  • Wayne Edwards - 2013-05-31 10:57

    This man is going to walk free !!!

      Paige Turner - 2013-05-31 11:13

      It's up to the judge to conduct a fair trial. These days everyone fancies him or herself a judge. Wait for the verdict.

      Janicemcmaster - 2013-05-31 11:17

      I hope so!!!

      Sean Bagley - 2013-05-31 11:19

      Where's the ethics regarding the investigation and confidentiality of this on going case?If the police did leak this photo then it says a lot about their professionalism does it not.SkyNews also claimed that a watch got stolen from Pistorius place.So investigations that begets another investigation.Corruption between media outlets and their cop whistleblowers is what sells news stories.

      Don Master - 2013-05-31 12:00

      Judges can get it wrong too, whether the State conducted a proper trial. We may see appeal after appeal, even landing in the Constitutional Court on arguments of a right to a fair trial, and that the judges mind was tainted by the media reports. Thus at the end of it, Oscar will be left penniless, Reeva still dead, and justice even delayed or even denied, and the Lawyers much richer.

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-31 12:23

      There has been a strong push from the defense to discredit the investigators from day 1. Mr Botha supposedly contaminating the scene and falling to pieces on the witness stand. Now the pictures were supposedly leaked by the NPA... why now? They were offered tons of cash in the early days for pictures. The pictures of the door are being spun by Sky as backing up Oscar's version he was on his stumps. And now an allegation of theft by the investigators...

      Sarah Stanton - 2013-05-31 12:24

      I believe you are right. Guilty or not guilty at this point has become irrelevant. It will be easy for the defense team to discredit any allegations or incriminating evidence - to the point that the judge will not be able to rule conclusively that OP did or did not commit murder. Homicide, yes, but not murder.

      Richard Scully - 2013-05-31 12:29

      Unfortunately it's up to the police and NPA to present a good case and the judge to make a de is ion. We are seek g that we cannot trust NPA or police, he probably will walk free

      Shirley Stee - 2013-05-31 13:17

      Walk free or not-Do you want a police and justice system who has no interest in the ethics of the trial but rather the ammount of moneyhe/she can make? It doesnt matter who is on trial-this is NOT the behaviour you expect from so called defenders of law and order

      Sekalf Nroc - 2013-06-01 08:11

      the police in this country is less than joke

      Jco van Rooyen - 2013-06-01 22:27

      Wayne, maybe it is true, but do not forget that hundreds of murders, rapists, thieves in South Africa walking free! Never forget that!

  • Deon Behrens - 2013-05-31 11:01

    someone made some fast bucks....that's how !!!!

  • Erich Goosen - 2013-05-31 11:08

    The most expensive toilet door in history.

  • CliveK - 2013-05-31 11:11

    More incompetent and crooked cops!

  • Sbo Kubeka - 2013-05-31 11:11

    Whatever happens, Oscar KILLED Reeva. The question on whether pics are leaked to the public or sold to the press is immaterial. He shot through the bathroom door and killed his girlfriend.

      Werner Nel - 2013-05-31 11:16

      And now the police has provided his legal team with more ammunition for him to get away with it.

      Sbo Kubeka - 2013-05-31 11:18

      SA does not use a jury system therefore these pics have no impact on the outcome of the trial. They are also pics that are not in the docket file, who knows who else came to Oscar's house before the police?

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-05-31 16:38

      @Warmer Nel: Let me correct one misconception in your comment. The case here is whether it was premeditated murder or culpable homicide? In his affidavit in a bail application he admitted shooting but raised a defence that he thought it was an intruder. So, if murder does not successed so the culpable homicide does. It is called a competent verdict in law. So there is no ammunition here.

  • Heini McCarthy - 2013-05-31 11:11

    Still so tragic.... I hope the truth is revealed

      Shelle Malan - 2013-05-31 15:10

      Not a chance....all we will hear is the "gospel according to Pistorius".

  • Pradesh_Singh - 2013-05-31 11:12

    need to do an investigation to investigate an investigation, only in SA!

  • Robert Coughlan - 2013-05-31 11:15

    Let's guess how this turns out....they'll claim some of the evidence has been compromised and have some photographic and phorensic evidence dismissed.......

  • Glenda Gert - 2013-05-31 11:20

    it's no one else but Botha

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-31 21:01

      Hilton Botha, hope you take note of thise, you must visit your laywer!

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-31 21:01


      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-31 21:28

      easy one, on a open forum & recorded, wow!

      Trevor Matthews - 2013-05-31 21:55

      Lol Belinda yer gonna give Glenda a coronary....

  • Nawhal Majiet-Armien - 2013-05-31 11:26

    for that amount of money many a South African would also sell pics if they had them, this man killed Reeva, thats the end of it, whether he withers in a prison or not he will still have to live with the stigma, and he doesnt like that

      Sbo Kubeka - 2013-05-31 11:34

      I agree 100 per cent. R458k is a lot of money.

  • blessing.khumalo.90 - 2013-05-31 11:42

    how do you know have you been the world over just like UN general secretary

  • blessing.khumalo.90 - 2013-05-31 11:45

    oh please how much do plolice earn a month surely i would have sold those pics. if i had them that is a lot of money

      Jurie Nel - 2013-05-31 12:35

      Blessing, are you saying you would have done so, knowing that it would be wrong?

  • Mohau Chabeli - 2013-05-31 11:55

    Nt surprised afta media reports claimim the NPA is weak as they approach Pistorius' case. Subsequent 2 that pics of the murder scene r shown on Skynews. NPA keep yo eyes on the ball.

  • Dale Johnson - 2013-05-31 11:56

    This case is going to really highlight how bad our Police Force/Service is !

      Jurie Nel - 2013-05-31 12:36

      I am afraid you are absolutely right.

  • Timothy Crowley - 2013-05-31 11:56

    The defence could also have leak the photos deliberately!

      Jurie Nel - 2013-05-31 12:37

      Without having them? Use your brain rather than your imagination.

      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-31 12:52

      The defense got access to the door after the police returned it to the police scene.

  • Joe Kerr - 2013-05-31 12:03

    Somebody got paid generously for the pictures.

  • Mel Webster - 2013-05-31 12:07

    On the news tonight in NZ it said one of his watches was had gone after the police left. On saying that he is a cold bloodied murderer,if he gets off it wont be for long before he is pushing up daisies himself.

  • Ferdi Preller - 2013-05-31 12:18

    How high is that door handle, or am i a midget?

      Jurie Nel - 2013-05-31 12:37


      Nurse Helenk - 2013-05-31 12:54

      News24 conveniently left off part of the picture on SKY where you can see the door handle is around the same height of the top hole. What bothers me with this picture is that there were FOUR shots through the door, we are only seeing two here.

  • Samuel Khazamula Bila - 2013-05-31 12:29

    How can we expect the SAPS to be competent whn you hv a Minister,who hv no Clue abt the law n policing.let alone the National Commissioner.The Pistorius defends team must be excited because thy will present this n augue tht He ws prejudice by publishing all this evidence.and the learned Judge won't hestate to dismiss the case.mark my words

  • Natásja Shaw - 2013-05-31 14:40

    You know we are in trouble when the police start acting like kids at a playground fight when they are supposed to be serving and protecting! Snapping pictures..... really professional and the whole world gets to know about it too! #soembarressed

  • Sidney Johnson - 2013-05-31 16:23

    Of course the cops are silent, one of the lazy no good for nothing sons of b!tches sold the pictures to the press so as to line his own pockets, I have said this before, to be accepted as a cop in South Africa you have to be a scumbag like the turds running the country

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-05-31 16:45

      What a narrow generalisation peppered by an emotive language devoid of any intelligence and detached from reality and rich in civil claim. I am a cop and I have been that for the past 26 years, and I dare you prove this nonsense drivel with facts. I am a final year law student, yet in your very perfect life I am useless and lazy. What a purveyor of intelligence and a harbinger of all the ideas you are. Your parents must be very proud of you!

      Miemie Homes - 2013-05-31 17:27

      I agree, when it comes to the police force, there are some great service men and women out there and they don’t deserve to be treated with such negative generalisations. Some of you are so desperate to believe Oscar murdered Reeva with the most vicious of intentions and to prove your own evil theories of what happened that night were correct that even now that there is proof that Oscar spoke the truth when he claimed he was not wearing his prosthetic legs when the incident occurred, some of you still grasp at any available straws, blaming the incompetence of the police and I'm sure that of the judge eventually, but you will die before you admit you may have been hasty in your judgements. This is why other more sensible people on these forums have kept reminding you to wait for the trial and reserve your judgements until you know all the “factual” details of a case.

      Sipho Mnguni - 2013-05-31 19:19

      Well said, Minnie. Thank, you! I wish there were many Minnies out there. Thousands thumbs up.

      Belinda Oberholster - 2013-05-31 21:10

      Sipho & Miemie, a thousand thumbs up, guys, I agree!

      Annemarie White - 2013-06-01 18:24

      You are out of line. Not all cops are bad or corrupt. We have awesome SAPS members in our village. They work damned hard, try their best and then get lambasted by the likes of you. Go and be a reservist for at least two years, and repeat this defamatory statement in public again.

  • Sigmund Badenhorst - 2013-05-31 19:34

    Paige, I agree with you totally. Most people don't have any details about the case, accept what they read in the newspapers, but they can judge so easily.

  • Aniel Poolaraj - 2013-05-31 23:57

    We understand bt how did pistorius know the so called intruder was sitiing on the toilet pan by him lookin trough the door how the hell is that possible,I m nt saying his guilty but hw did he know in what direction to shoot or where to shoot doesn't make sense, and he jus shot tru a door ,after the 1st shot y did reeva not scream loud n say sumting so he could realise its her,his story dnt make sense ppl n dat even a fuken grade 5 pupil will say,and was his life in immenent danger his story is very dodgy

  • Don Mug - 2013-06-01 06:41

    The Pistorius family keeping us in the dark to protect their kith

  • Don Mug - 2013-06-01 06:47

    0scars family protecting their killer son,Reeva RIP.

  • Sekalf Nroc - 2013-06-01 08:12

    The SA police is the definition on incompetence.

  • Theo Martinez - 2013-06-01 11:32

    Is it the leaning/broadcasting/printing of these pictures that might influence the case, or is it that they show a police bootprint in the blood and thus underlines again the police mess? And thus normal that Botha now spreads the R490000 rumour... because nobody confirmed that right? I saw that Sky said no money was paid. Maybe Botha tried to cash in himself? I also find it abit ridiculous that the critics attack the publication of the photos while surely everybody looked at them.

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