Cops turn out for ANCYL Cape Town march

2012-08-27 08:11

Cape Town - A huge police contingent is expected in the Cape Town CBD as ANC Youth League members and supporters take to the streets to march for economic freedom.

The youth league said protesters would convene at Salt River station and from there will move to Keizergracht Street in the CBD. From there it plans to march down Darling Street, left into Adderley and then turn into Wale Street where it will hand over a memorandum at the provincial legislature.

The march is expected to start at 11:00.

The league says it expects about 10 000 people to take part in the march.

The City of Cape Town’s Kylie Hatton said “demonstrators should commence their return along the same route originally followed by no later than 13:30”.

“Also according to the stipulations, the march must respect and observe all relevant laws and municipal by-laws relating to nuisance, use of loudspeakers, traffic etc. at all times,” she said.

“To this end, marshals must be appointed and deployed to supervise the demonstrators.”

‘We don’t want to ruin ANYCL image’

The ANCYL has undertaken to maintain order during the march.

Cape Metro ANCYL secretary Mfuzo Zenzile told the Cape Times it would make sure the anticipated 10 000 marchers protested peacefully on Monday morning.

"We want to ensure that there is no chaos that erupts on the day. We don't want instances that will paint the image of the youth league in a bad light," he said.

The youth league planned to stage a march on the 27th of each month, until its demands were met.

According to the report, the youth league and its allies were decrying the lack of services to poorer communities and the proposed closure of 27 schools in the province.

It was also calling for the proposed youth wage subsidy to be scrapped.

Other groups set to join the ANCYL are the ANC, Cosatu, the SA Students Congress (Sasco), the SA National Civic Organisation (Sanco); the Congress of SA Students (Cosas); the Islamic Unity Convention; and taxi organisations: Congress for Democratic Taxi Associations (Codeta) and Cape Amalgamated Taxi Association (Cata).

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  • adrian.tyler - 2012-08-27 08:19

    More traffic lights are going to be burnt today...

      prieurp34 - 2012-08-27 08:37

      .....Or stolen! Hahahahaha

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 08:42

      The one thing the vast majority of Capetonians have in common, is a love for their surroundings. If they continue to trash the city, the only thing they'll achieve is their status as "political-party non grata" in the Western Cape. We can condone peaceful protest, we cannot condone destruction of our city and a disrespect for the choices we made at the ballot box. You don't see the DA Youth making Gauteng ungovernable because they don't respect the choice of the majority of that province's electorate.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 08:42

      They HAVE to steal the traffic lights, it's the brightest bulbs out of all of them.

      trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-08-27 08:46

      true...and dirt bins tipped over/cars winscreen smashed...the list goes on

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 08:53

      Wonder if Warren pays taxes or understands what a constitutional democracy is?

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-27 09:11

      Warren, please explain - logically and coherently - just what you mean by 'South Africa has refused to change.' Do you mean that those who work hard, get educated and earn money must simply hand over cash to those who sit on their backsides? Because the only way a country changes is through hard work by its people. That's what we did - and are doing - to actually pay for all the luxuries you now enjoy - roads, water, electricity etc. So what DO you mean Warren?

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 09:18

      Warren, the only things that are burned are your brain cells, keep it up and there won't be any left.

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 09:19

      Warren can't explain, because he can't explain corruption, he can't explain maladministration, he can't explain a failed education system, he can't explain cadre-deployment's destruction of local governance, he can't explain ruling party policy paralysis. All of this, is the reasons SA won't change, why the poor remain poor, why opportunity remains elusive for the majority. He relies on the scapegoats of pointing fingers at those in business, not in power. The national government is the root of the problems. When they change, so will the nation.

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 09:28

      Ah, so Warren is in England. So much for his opinion! His opinion on SA and its issues has so few consequences for himself.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 09:38

      Yah right Warren, you're probably cleaning dishes for a chinese takeaway store in London, and sharing a flat with 12 Pakistani's.

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 09:42

      Warren: I have started public private partnerships, worked with local government (across political spectrum), fostered business-public sector cooperation, championed social cohesion campaigns, championed charity-CSI partnerships, worked in land restitution and agri-villages for the rural poor, worked with Fairtrade, designed urban renewal projects, was on scoping team for WC Economic Development Partnership. Don't make wild assumptions of who you're talking to and attach self-importance and intrinsic knowledge on your views.

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 09:47

      PS. And no, private sector CAN'T do it alone. With a paralysed government, the future is lost. SA already has a high tax-burden and probably the lowest tax-payment-to-tax-benefit ratio in the world. You cripple taxpayers and business and ask even more from them... guess what, they pack up and leave. That simple. "You can't multiply wealth by dividing it!"

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-27 10:21

      @warren.moore.7545 You who do not even live in South Africa will have a rather rude awakening during your so called "gap year" Do not presume to lecture any of us on any colour or political persuasion. You should, if you are "of colour" as you claim, perhaps go and work in the WHITE Squatter Camps, and see and understand what white people in this country really are. As for your pious remark re the expertise etc accumulated by white people. Conditions are fair, opportunities are available to all, equal employment opportunities are available here yes, as long as you are Black. Appartently black people need laws to get ahead, while white must be prevented from working (and pay taxes, and plough their expertise back into the economy). Just another of these misguided, bleeding hearts, without a clue.............

      Willie - 2012-08-27 10:24

      "...Congress for Democratic Taxi Associations..." demogratic taxi association ? taxis!!!!!

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 10:26

      First thing, I'm going to tell you before you get here: get over the race thing! Your use of White-this, Black-that is NOT what we need in South Africa right now. We need to be South Africans first and race, second. Leave that at home, please. Secondly, contact or and speak to Lynette Jaftha and find out where you could get involved. I'm a consultant, so I don't work directly for an NGO, so can't personally help.

      yrhonour.honour - 2012-08-27 10:43

      @Warren - I lived in the UK for 14 years - I have never seen such blatant racism - black against white that is! you pander around like little puppies while the blacks treat you with contempt for being such a bunch of lily livered little bend over and sh@g me's... stay there brother - paint another 4 leaf clover on your spectacles - life is good there not! Come here to escape the riots will you. By the way chump, economic freedom means hard work - didn't see too much coming from the english while i was there- isn't it...w@nker

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-27 10:54

      Warren, don't talk crap. I have been in places on this earth where povery is far larger than here, none of those people have any inclination to trash a city. It is just the character of the beast. Let's make a bloody nuisance of ourselves, beats hanging about doing nothing while we wait for our portion of the wealth to arrive and in the meantime we don't care about how much those we voted for are enriching themselves with.

      burningdogz - 2012-08-27 10:59

      @Warren: You displayed your true colours when you started a sentence with "that is how a white man thinks". As far as I am concerned you are just another biased racist too clouded by ideology to realise it yet. Ask yourself what would you think should I have started this little chat with "ag, just typical black man mentality." Yup, you are that guy . . . Good for you paying taxes. I do too. I would love to pay taxes if it furthered the education and social conditions of my countrymen and if it were properly allocated by the officials in charge. It is quite different when you read time and time again of how the goverment lost 5 billion, or that some protesters burned down another train spnsored by your work, or that the ANC must have another (and another and another) party celeberating whatever excuse they can find to give out t-shirst instead of hosting a class teaching people to make t-shirts. Seeing your money wasted on jet shopping or speeding arrogant racist ministers around in overexpensive vehicles and then charging two police officers for doing their job etc. etc. etc. You have ties in South Africa, good for you again, I know some folks in other countries as well. I know a man that climbed Kilimanjaro too, hardly puts me in a position to coach anyone else about the place until I feel the cold wind and fire in my legs. Equal opportunities? Like SAA's "equal opportunities? Perhaps BEE? AA? Equal opportunities start with the right to an education, which we . . . cont

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-27 11:01

      Warren, so you are living on the Isle of Man. That is where the taxes are lenient isn't it?. You have that typical European attitude of knowing what is best for everyone while ignoring the rubbish in your own backyard. You ask us what we are doing for our country. Just exactly what makes that any business of yours?. Instead of pointing your finger at us, go use your free time to teach immigrant children to read and write, something not many of them learn in your schools.

      burningdogz - 2012-08-27 11:06

      . . . we are all supposed to have should the government effectively do their job using our tax money as resources. They can't even the bloody text books to class before half the year pass. Hey, blame the white man. The right to further education? Like all the bursaries etc. placed out there, or the lowered standards for black pupils. Still failing? Just burn it down and blame the white man. Equal opportunities are presented to all, despite the whining and lies dished to the international market, you might be shocked to know that the failures of poor in South Africa are despite the geniune efforts of many white people as well and are mainly a by-product of a squirming and failing goverment pushing the big red "blame the white man" button to cover their own asses. You are right, gaps between rich and poor are huge. Look at the two gentleman recently revealed to be earning R100 000 a meeting. Those white bastards . . . oh wait, hang on, their black. As are most other high earners. Oh wait, are you referring to the fact that large corporations in South Africa are white owned? Some are, but that is like saying no one is eating ice cream in South Africa because some guy in England invented ice cream. Roll up some sleeves. Enjoy your gap year, get some hands on experience, then we will talk again.

      juannepierre - 2012-08-27 11:21

      @Warren .Moore sounds like you are doing a great thing. Please encourage more stinking rich people such as your self to help the poor, unfortunately I'm working too hard to keep my head above water in this economic group called the middle class. And really that gap you speak of closing is about the rich and poor, not very poor, poor and slightly poor?

      warren.moore.7545 - 2012-08-27 11:22

      @jacqui.daanevanrensburg -u are not of any sensible character are you?...I have lost all my words.

      Rudolf - 2012-08-27 11:24

      Hope the police is armed like they were at Lonmin! Come to think of it I hope the same Lonmin police is now in the Cape!!! It seems their handywork will be needed....

  • andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 08:27

    Marching for economic freedom? Their memorandum stated they wanted to make the city ungovernable. How is the Western Cape government supposed to deliver economic freedom, if they are constitutionally bound to work within the frameworks of national (ANC) policy? This is just borderline sedition tactics and a hate for the political choice of the Western Cape electorate and nothing with economic freedom. You want economic freedom, march on Luthuli House, they forge national policy, not the WCape legislature!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 08:55

      Agreed, the irony is astounding. Malema is too stupid to brainstorm real "economic freedom" but clever enough to use it as a guise to get support for his dead career.

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-27 08:57

      Don't worry, it's having the opposite effect. The vast majority of Capies are gatvol of them and their anti-Cape politically motivated tactics. The WC-ANC are digging their own graves.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 09:22

      Hahaha good one Toby, low mileage!

  • Jason - 2012-08-27 08:28

    I will be very surprised if they manage to drum up 10 000 people, very surprised indeed.

      linda.drummond.503 - 2012-08-27 08:46

      By bussing them in, Jason

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 08:56

      Yup, they will need a bus for all 100 of them.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-08-27 08:57

      One free fried cheekin and a t-shirt will some up the masses very easily. What I don't get is why they march in CT. They should be marching in the provinces that are causing the chaos and blocking 'economic freedom'. And I refer to economic freedom as job creation and small business growth.

      dani.marais - 2012-08-27 09:27

      I'm amazed they can organise buses for 10 000 people but can't deliver textbooks for lack of transportation. This can only mean that keeping the electorate uneducated serves the agenda of current national leadership.

  • iceman196 - 2012-08-27 08:30

    what they going to trash and destroy today, assh@les

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-27 09:35

      To SAPS; Keep em locked and loaded

  • anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-27 08:33

    why dont they protest in the other provinces where there is no delivery service in at all?

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-27 08:36

      and to all the cops do the double tap on the trigger

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 08:58

      Wow Warren I'm so sorry, I'm really working hard on my year round tan okay, just give me a chance 8-/

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-27 09:04

      warren be the good boy that you are, and go back please.

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-27 09:13

      Warren - now I see it. You are simply a sick racist who hates Whites. Explains your 'logic' well.

  • spartanx93 - 2012-08-27 08:33

    Please tell me what this economic freedom cr*p is? No pedi can explain it yet? Please do not answer with nationalisation........

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-27 11:47

      Oseke wa nyaka go thoma masepa wena spartanx93,Because no ethnicity was mentioned anywhere in this article....Nnywana mmago!!!

  • peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-08-27 08:34

    Ag mensch, why dont these kids rather do something more constructive.They got the cat by the doodlenuts, their quest for economic freedom must be addressed to Mr Zuma. They should rather be at work,or look for work, or if all that fails, go and play hopscotch in the traffic.

      charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-27 10:35

      Half of these "kids" are over 21 years old or more!

  • barry.ahern.3 - 2012-08-27 08:34

    Yea, lets all in march in the city responsible for the best stats in the country...? Nothing but a ploy to try win over CT voters.

      lydonmcg - 2012-08-27 08:43

      It's going to have the opposite effect.

  • dnelson23 - 2012-08-27 08:36

    This is stupid. Economic freedom is not staying away from school, college and university... It is going there. You can't just expect things to happen, you must work your ass off!!!

      iceman196 - 2012-08-27 09:29

      no according to them economic freedom is taking and stealing what isn't there's, this lot couldn't put in a days honest work even if they tried, its all a case of I WUNT I WUNT

  • samuelbowker - 2012-08-27 08:38

    I live on the corner of Darling and Adderley!

      dave.gray.549221 - 2012-08-27 08:46

      Perfect place for some sniper rifles to control the mob

      arthur.hugh - 2012-08-27 09:04

      I'll buy you a bottle of JD if you drop an egg on Malema's head!

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-27 09:52

      Hugh, I'll add a bottle of Chivas for Dave if it's an ostrich egg and hardboiled.

      rick.kabose - 2012-08-27 11:44

      You got your molotov cocktails ready for the thirsty marchers ? ;)

  • ivan.frantz.3 - 2012-08-27 08:39

    I hope that the police will be as tough if need be as they were at Lonmins .

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-27 08:39

    Gimme gimme gimme.... That's always the case. Why don't they get of their rear ends and go find some work instead of always demanding from the goverment!!!

      heinrich.etsebeth - 2012-08-27 08:46

      Because they get what they want... because the ANC will not have any votes if they did not play to their fiddle.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-08-27 09:00

      Shaylene, a lot of them do really want to work, but there just aren't jobs available, and this is the ruling party's fault created through stifling trade and business laws that don't encourage employment and business growth. But this suits the ANC agenda perfectly as it makes a more extreme solution (nationalisation) seem the only viable option.

  • prieurp34 - 2012-08-27 08:41

    Better notify the SPCA, few stray animals going to be running on the loose in CT streets today and PLEASE, do not feed them, they might have rabies!

      iceman196 - 2012-08-27 09:01

      please dont compare animals to this savage scum

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-27 08:44

    They can not win at the Ballot box, so this is their strategy. The ANC has a lot to answer for.

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-08-27 09:01

      Can't wait for the next elections to see how much the ANC has lost.

  • brett.michielin - 2012-08-27 08:48

    Economic freedom begins by getting up on a Monday morning and going to work. Not marching!!!!

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-27 08:49

    I think the ANC\\ANCYL and the rest of these terror organisations are living in denial. Why would they even want to speak the word \service delivery\ or draw ANY kind of attention to them self with the kind of track record they have. It smacks of Racism and double standards and we all know there is no such thing in these organisations. Well since its their democratic right to protest I suggest the SAPS use restraint but no crap this is not the 1st time the ANC had its own people killed to make a political statement.

  • Thoughtsandstuff - 2012-08-27 08:50

    One in eight jobs in South Africa is tourism based. With unemployment so high, you'd THINK that an organisation that claims to have public interests at heart wouldn't try to damage the tourism industry in CT. No brains, no headaches?

  • jacqui.c.baumgardt - 2012-08-27 08:50

    i hope it rains on their parade

      greg.quinn.353 - 2012-08-27 09:02

      I'd prefer hail :)

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-27 09:19

      some lightning will be nice

  • Lee.CPT.ZA - 2012-08-27 08:51

    What about the 3rd force, the agent provocateurs? Surely they will be there to spice up the day? Zille and De Lille, undercover to stir the masses of well disciplined, self sacrificing youth who are fighting for social injustce. yeah right!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-27 09:13

    Marching for economic freedom....trash the city and some private property and then the CT municipality must pay up....what a waste of money.....economic freedom?!?

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-27 09:14

    Marching for economic freedom....trash the city and some private property and then the CT municipality must pay up....what a waste of money.....economic freedom?!?

  • SarcasticAgnostic - 2012-08-27 09:17

    I bet 70% of those protesting, would be threatened to be there. I would also protest if my life depended on it.

  • paul.coughlan.10004 - 2012-08-27 09:25

    So, when will the ANCYL be marching in the other provinces? Or are they happy with service delivery in the rest of the country? Funny, the last time I was in Joburg, It didn't look like the land of milk and honey. The potholes in the dirty streets were filled with rubbish. People living in shacks at the side of the road with no electricity, water or toilet facilities. Is this what Cape Town should be working towards? If so, keep on marching ANCYL and I'm sure you will help us to achieve just that.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-27 09:28

    its just another excuse for these idiots to have a day off. While we all work hard to build the economy these ANCYL and all there corrupt idiots are out to destroy it. They are only doing this march to try slow the DA down because the DA is putting the ANC to shame and showing the ANC how to run a province properly. In the ANCYL mind if it works destroy it and get it to the way the ANC run things. I hope the police are waiting for you with water cannons filled with icy water. Bugger off to your other ANC f@!ked up provinces and go toi toi there for the non existant service delivery.

  • remi.preez - 2012-08-27 09:28

    The outcome of this is easy to predict. Stuff will get broken. The ANCYL will deny that its members destroyed anything and that it was thugs trying to undermine the League. Blah blah blah...

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  • prieurp34 - 2012-08-27 09:38

    Its going to result in CHAOS, never before and never has the ANCYL held peaceful demonstrations! And they will blame it on DA supporters trying to disrupt their proceedings! Did you see them wearing a ANC T-Shirt? That will be the comments of the ANCYL after distruction was caused! Typical!

  • sharon.s.cupido - 2012-08-27 10:01

    ANCYL seeing that it's service delivery you're after, why not ask the very people you voted for, they made all these ridiculous promises that to this day they cannot fulfill!!! These violent methods may have worked in the 80's but it sure as hell won't solve your problem today!!!! So pick up all your toys and crap and leave!!!!! Western Cape aint interested!!!!

  • timothy.tanzer.5 - 2012-08-27 10:01

    So ANCYL is being guided by COSATU...? 'It was also calling for the proposed youth wage subsidy to be scrapped.' AS far as I was aware ANC was pro the wage-subsudy... ANCYL is a rogue organisation then?

  • nicky.rensburg.1 - 2012-08-27 10:06

    Demands, demands, demands... WTF... who the hell can still demand to be paid what he/she wants, be grateful for what you have and shut the hell up!

  • Bradley Froud - 2012-08-27 10:15

    Savagery WILL prevail! Calm behaviour is NOT yet in their gene pool! Just watch the 7 o'clock news tonight and get ready to be repulsed!

      Bradley Froud - 2012-08-27 10:20

      Lets see if the cops mow them down. Seems to be the done thing these days. GET OUT cANCer! Get out!!!

  • boltonbarry - 2012-08-27 10:28

    Keeping it oderly...I dont think so

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-08-27 10:29

    Just another ploy by the cANCer to try and put one over on the DA. These ancyl wankers are puppets in the greater scheme of things. Listen up ancyl. Your big brothers have caused nothing but degradation around the whole country, except for the Western Cape. You should be marching to congratulate the DA for a job well done and give them your loyal support and votes, so they can clean up this country.

  • charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-27 10:42

    This march has got NOTHING to do with service delivery!!!!!!!!

  • mskittylicious - 2012-08-27 10:47

    "We want to ensure that there is no chaos that erupts on the day. We don't want instances that will paint the image of the youth league in a bad light," he said. Too late.

  • thabo.swafo - 2012-08-27 10:47

    Viva the commanders of ECONOMIC FREEDOM FIGHTERS in Western Cape viva!down with Hellen Zille down!run Hellen Zille run!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-27 11:26

      thabo,swafo. I am sorry, your ignorance must be really painful. Try walking around with a bucket on your head for a while, it will keep the nonsense from seeping out.

      marcusvandermerwe - 2012-08-28 22:23

      Another youth league member without brains or an education.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-27 10:49

    If the marchers all find work they will have the economic freedom they desire. Bloody hooligans.

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-08-27 11:06

    Ok, so its 11am now... Have the expected 10000 people turned up for this march?

  • malungisa.samuel - 2012-08-27 11:32

    The only thing youth must do is to march and tell zuma must step down before December cause we are loosing too much vote because of him

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-08-27 11:45

    If they have taken the day off to do this then they should all be fired from their jobs.

  • morgainne.duplessis - 2012-08-27 12:56

    @Warren, how dare you criticize my country? Have you not seen what shambles your country is in due to the EU? Sort your country out before you start pointing fingers.

  • shimone.abrahams - 2012-08-27 13:06

    nice guys, continue this pointless debate and remember that we all can make a difference , why not contribute some of ur millions to the poverty in SA than we will all live better , not all poverty is by choice. i am blessed to have a good job, with a great salary but i was lucky to get into a great company and than through hard work get somewhere , but if people are not given this opportunity what must they do . not even a matric Or higher education matters anymore , its who you know and the color of your skin. i am blessed to make in a day what most people can only dream bout making a month and through this blessing i do all i can can to improve those less fortunate including helping provide funds for the less fortunate to attend a good school. why dont you take one months salary and fix up a poor school in our neighborhood or fund a feeding program, instead of gloating bout what you earn, and this is the reason why RSA stay s the same

  • stewart.mackay001 - 2012-08-27 13:47

    Why do they have to march to deliver a document? Have they not heard of EMAIL?

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  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-08-27 14:52

    I wish I could see logic in all this chaos.But Im failing with dismal results to see it.

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